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We’re noticing a trend with our TL;DR’s lately. We always want to start them with apologies and disclaimers. Some people might take offence to the opinions we post here, but we can’t apologize for them every time we start these posts. So, forget about it: on with the show!

The number one question for this week was “what are some cool trends in Korea that might not be considered cool in Canada or the States.” To which we answer: some Korean male fashion trends. The first and easiest one to talk about is those hideous sparkly, shiny suits that men wear. They’re just godawful. *Martina and Simon fight for the keyboard….* WHAT!? They are totally amazing! Simon, you’re crazy! I love those suits! They are really crisp and totally sweet looking!!!! *scuffle for the keyboard* Forget about a nice, professional three piece suit. Actually, don’t forget about it: think about it, but add some glitter and shine to it. BAM! Korean trend #1 that we can’t see transferring over to North America very well. Or maybe it has transferred over already: we haven’t been living there for over three years now. Please, oh please tell me people aren’t wearing shiny suits there! We just can’t take them seriously. *Martina throws Simon a ranch bone and he runs off* I guess our opinions are split here. I think the right person could pull off this suit, or maybe wearing them for a special occasion like a wedding would be awesome, but I think the everyday wearing of these suits to work probably wouldn’t be a catchy trend. Try googling “korean shiny suit” if you want an idea of what we’re talking about.

The second trend we’re gonna talk about is kind of a trend that requires you to be born as an exceptionally good looking guy. We’re referring to Flower Boys. They’re guys who don’t fit the typical look of manly looking men. Flower boys are pretty boys, VERY pretty boys. They’re usually skinny, have gorgeous hair and have feminine features. They’re not beefy or muscly, but are quite lean. Fashion is extremely important to them and they dress really really well, often with tight fitting clothing. They have exceptionally smooth skin, quite possibly from usage of BB Cream and sometimes they might wear gray or blue contacts lenses, along with circle lenses. They’re ridiculously and unfairly pretty looking.

However, to an uninitiated North American audience, they’re sometimes mistaken for women, otherwise thought of as looking quite girly. To a Korean and Asian audience, though, Flower Boys can be thought of as exceptionally beautiful and hot. If we could match it up with a North American archetypal equivalent, they would be the “jocks” or “preppy guys” of Asia. Not that they’re athletic or buff, they’re just the kind of guy that’s really model worthy.

We know that lots of people all over the world find Flower Boys hot (including Martina after a couple months of living in Korea). Our only point here is that if they were to form a kpop band and be presented in other parts of the world besides Asia, it’s possible they would be confused as girls and, possibly, mocked by some ignorant people. Remember Taylor Hanson…anyone? MMMbop? No? Guys? Anyone?

Anyways, this should not be seen as an insult to them, it’s just that to the uninitiated – like some of Martina’s friends – Flower boys are confusing. This is the #1 trend that we don’t think will transfer over very well into North American culture of be considered very cool. It’s hard to understand why. I mean, look, for example, at this article on Soompi, in which one of the members of Super Junior jokes about his looks as a girl. And, really, he pulls off a girl look quite well. In fact, many male kpop celebrities and actors have dressed up as girls on Korean variety shows just for fun. Can you imagine North American pop stars pulling that off well (apart from maybe Justin Bieber, of course). Oh, perhaps Lil Wayne? Foo Fighters? Now they’d make for some uuuuugly women. SEUNGRI! TIME FOR KISSES!

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  1. Kaitlyn Haskie

    Hello,
    I was wondering if Koreans have any specific views or ideas about Native American. Or maybe they don’t think about Native Americans.

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  3. Somni Loquy

    TROGDOR!!!! LE….BURNINATOR!!!!!!!!

    Trogdor was a man! I mean, he was a dragon-man…Or maybe he was just a dragon…But he was still TROGDOR! TROGDOR! Burninating the countryside, Burninating the peasants, Burninating all the peoples, And their thatched-roof COTTAGES! THATCHED-ROOF COTTAGES!

    And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIGHT!

  4. Olivia Ray

    i live in America. and i’m so deep into Kpop and the Korean Culture. That the men here no longer appeal to me. I like the flower boys ;) Can’t wait till i go to Korea in a couple months!!

  5. blooming_hinata.sakura95

    I’ll just say it outright…. I LOVE this thread-community-petition for Flower Boys XD XD <3

  6. Best thing I have seen so far is the kissing games with boys on variety shows. I can understand that guys can be affectionate and touchy with male friends, I am always arm in arm with my best friend, so I can accept that in Korea not just girls but guys can do that. But the kisses???!!! WTF???!!!
    And there’s the couples with band members. I am a fan of Supernatural american tv series and there is a huge amount of Wincest (Winchester brothers + incest) videos on youtube. With all the intense stares and arguing at kissing distance, you just put on a romantic song and you have what you want to imagine. So, the coupling videos about band members didn’t strike me as odd, other than because of all the skinship there is SO MUCH MORE material to work with.
    But the kissing games?
    Seriously?
    They kiss better than any damn k-drama.
    How is that possible?

  7. Lozzy Sunshine

    I love flower boys! All the boys I’ve seen in England are gangsters :(

  8. I know I’m a bit old here, but really – has no one heard of Glam Rock? Or seen all those goth rockers from the 90s… Flower Boys are just beautiful boys – very talented ones as well. Oh & some are NOT wimpy looking (sorry, Lee Min Ho – really not a wraith & very much hunky in City Hunter & Faith – & check out Rain in that ninja film before calling HIM skinny…) Anime (yes, Japanese – I’m aware) is FULL of bishu boys. & yet we have one in the newly released Rurouni Kenshin (HAS to come to the US) kicking TOTAL a$$. So nothing new here, & TOTALLY could make it huge in the US w/proper marketing. I mean, THESE boys are TALENTED (vs dweeb Bieb as my daughters say)

  9. Well, with the popularity of Justin Bieber… Maybe in 5 or 10 years it will transfer over here, who knows?

  10. TanyaMel

    I am CRACKING UP because I use to be like this! The first drama I watched was BOF and I told my friends (about Ji Hoo) “Why in the f**k is his hair like that? Is he gay? Why do they wear their hair like girls?” And now I’m like OPPA SO SEXAYY! LOL I loved this video, it made me reminisce on my first Korean culture encounters :D

  11. Anna Xu

    How do south Koreans feel about plastic surgery?

  12. camislin

    Just would like to make an observation about the flower boys, their image is gay and femenine not in my words but in the korean entertainment statements they say that´s the image the girls prefer, do not confuse it with a metrosexual man which could be even a man with muscles and no make up but even in my country Mexico a man like Rain would be called gay, some others would be like dragqueens. so there is no need to introduce ourselves into kpop to have eyes and call a duck by its name, no matter the difference of culture a gay with makeup,childish behaviour and feminine manerisms here and in another planet is gay so just think about why a girl likes gays? 

  13. I’m quite a newbie on EatYourKimchi and started to watch all your old videos.
    Love it!!!

    My first K-pop MV was Sorry,Sorry (thanx to my Thai friend) and I seriously thought that some of them are girls! And when she told me that they are ALL guys, I was like “O_O Noooo! How can a guy be prettier than a girl???” LOL
    And Flower Boys…not really my typre BUT they ARE pretty and I LOVE their clothes and they REALLY look cool!

    Whenever I showed my mum K-pop MV she went like “they are gay~!” and I was like “No~! It’s just Korean fashion!” but I failed to bring her over…
    ….so I stoped showing her K-pop MVs because I love K-pop! (◠‿◠)✿

  14. Every time someone says shiny, I think of SHINee.
    And I like flower boys :D they’re cute.
    I also don’t think that the flower boy concept can easily ‘go’ with Western standards. There’s a guy in my school who is Ukrainian and wears clothes similar (not exact) to what flower boys wear, tight-ish jeans, cardigans, etc. and a lot of people call him gay for it (and yes, it’s rude to homosexuals to say that) whereas me and my kpop loving friend say he looks stylish-ish.

  15. Hello There!!! Well, i just read this and let me tell you that i’m a Mexican living in Canada for 5 years already (Montreal) and well, let me tell you that last year i wore for my prom a ”Shiny Suit” and i though i would be the only one, let me tell you I was WRONG! Most of the guys there had shinny suits! I guess Montreal is very much into it now, I see it more often everytime, they even whear those Shinny shirts that are like made out of silk, or smthg like that, and well, Circle lenses are also very common over here now, everyone whears them! EVEN my mom! keke

  16. Małgorzata Michalska

    Recently my Polish teacher wore such suit on school festival and it was so glittering that he caught all peoples’ looks. So not only Koeans wear such clothes :D

    Also I must say, that I was exactly as Martina. When I started listening to kpop I watched some Korean show, where a group of pretty and skinny boys were dancing as girls and I thought ‘OMG, are they gays?!’, but then my friend told me that the’re very popular and hot in Korea. It didn’t even took me a month when I saw that video again and thought ‘Man, they’re really sexy’. I believe that kpop addiction always starts the same :)

  17. Anonymous

    yeah……GD’s Heartbreaker was one of the first Kpop videos i ever saw, and Gara Gara Go!! too.  GD looks especially girly in those videos, and i kept teasing my friend about him looking like a girl for a while.  i was only teasing tho–i’d already been into anime and stuff, so i got the concept, i just didn’t see real-life “flower boys” real often before i got into Kpop.

    i will say this, however:  first time i ever saw SS501′s Park Jung Min (in Not Alone) i freaked out cuz he looked like he’d walked right out of a shoujo manga. o.O

    about the suits: i love them. they’re basically a regular suit, just a little more snazzy.  i agree that they shouldn’t catch on as everyday office wear or anything, but for nice occasions they’re nice.

  18. I can totally relate to Martina’s feelings, when speaking about Hero (or any other flower boy) to my friends.
    OTL

    And Simon is totally hilarious when wearing a wig!  “SEUNGRI! TIME FOR KISSES!”
    *LMAO*

    (^_~)v

    *heads over to watch music monday*

  19. ohh this is soo true !! now I like taemin very very much :D and in boys over flowers lee min ho, in jyj jaejoong is my favorite<3 …
    But I am still not used to it. It is so weird sometimes when I see in the Internet that an idol is  *really good looking flower boy* and when I see it and let my sister see it too we say OMG THIS IS WAY TOO FEMINIE SOO GAY although we are used to it 
    In the drama hana kimi I was always wondering if it would be possible here in Germany or Europe..???The most weirdest thing is some variety shows when Idols wear girl clothes and they see who looks the best and admires someone who looks nice?!here it would be really bad if someone can look as a girl or a guy but there it is kinda normal 
    but come on they sure are confused about costumes or things here or in the USA that is not normal there:D that could be the topic of the next TLDR 
    ok I'm writing to much XD 

  20. Lolol, didn’t you just describe a manga character when you talked about the flower boys? xD

  21. non testosteronian ???  아 빵  터졌음 대박 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ what a smart expression of gay.

  22. Anonymous

    OMG…your mistake at your first restaurant…was the same exact one me and my daughters made!  We ordered the cow (not beef) and the pig (not pork) off the menu and it was all ugly grisle and fat…I thought we were being served AS#! LOL.  We started hiding the pieces under lettuce and kimchi until we could pay and get out!  Love you guys from Daegu…bracing for the next typhoon in 5 days.

  23. Anonymous

    I am a lurker, well, WAS a lurker. I can’t help but comment. You guys are so funny. I just got interested in Kpop because of you guys.

  24. First K-pop I ever listened to was ‘Rokugo’ by Super Junior T, I was amazed at Heechul and his looks especially after seeing him again in ‘No Other’ MV. Such a beautiful specimen.

  25. Once again, I know what you mean here! Just recently my friend finally became interested in Kpop and posted SHINee’s “Hello” mv on her Wall on Facebook.  I was super proud of her and left a loving comment, ha ha ha, but someone else commented and said, “Oh look, Korea’s learned how to make porcelain dolls dance.” Me: *frage face*  So anyways *cough cough* , I know what you mean :( Western culture (not to be insulting it in any way) is very… finicky…. about how the men should look, always loving the big, tough, football-playing guys more than the clean-shaven, “hipster”, nice-smelling guys >.< I wish that eventually those flower boys will be accepted more in Western culture so all of these nasty comments on Kpop stars from my friends (and other people's friends, and other's people's other friends, etc) will cease to exist~ ^^

  26. jelliekookie

    buahahaha. Flower boys are LOVE, man. :) I have tons of photos of Kim Jaejoong in every single one of my electronic gadgets so friends got through it and go: Is it a girl or a guy? -.-
    Ahhhhh, Asians <3

  27. You’re video has me curious now. What about trends here in North America that aren’t in Korea?
     And I’ve been wondering about this too, are things like facial piercings and tattoos big in Korea? I’ve noticed a few tattoos but not many, and the piercings that I’ve noticed are all ear piercings…

  28. The first kpop video I ever watched was SHINee’s Lucifer and it took quite a bit of time before I believed Taemin was a guy. Now I love him! As for Jaejoong, I first saw him in Mirotic and my thoughts were “thats one sexy man!!!!!!!” lol.

  29. Anonymous

    LMAO SAME FOR ME :-D
    In the beginning when i started paying attention to kpop and checking it out, at first I was like……
    …uhhh these guys are beyond metrosexual…they are tooo girly…..literally like 2 months later:

    AKFNDSAKLHFKDLY  JAEJOOOONG *O*  :-Q  /drools

  30. Anonymous

    i used to show pictures of korean celebrities to my friends and made a game out of it. i would make them guess the gender and they would always say he is a girl. i would tell them they were the type of guys i like and eventually they asked me if i was a homosexual. the only person who could tell if he was a male was me because to me, they were obviously male, but not to them. to this day, whenever i go to allkpop.com in school, some people will ask me if the person im reading about is a male. it is still one of my favorite games ever and i still continue to make people guess the gender.

  31. Lol I remember my first time seeing GD I thought he looked a bit girly looking but I completely got used to it afterwards but I understand what you guys mean. Also where I’m from in the states there are a couple of guys that we consider pretty boys because they also where tight fitting clothes, are lean and also have no hair what so over and look more fashion forward then most girls…except I havent seen any of them where makeup…unless they do nd I havent really noticed…hmm

  32. lol i totally agree abt flower boys taking a while to get used to – when i first saw Youre Beautiful (not knowing anything abt kpop) i was so confused thinking how people could NOT see that park shin hye was so obviously a girl – but then when i rewatched it recently (after a year n half of being obsessed with kpop) i understood that there were guys that actually looked like girls in korea so i finally thot the premise was semi believable

  33. OMG YES I remember Taylor Hanson! Actually, I sorta liked him back in the day.
    …And yes, now I’m into K-pop. XD

  34. i can’t imagine foo fighters dressed up as girls! wait.. on second though i could! they dressed up as girls many times in their video, especially Dave xD

  35. oh how i love flower boys, and i always have :D it’s unfair, though, how people ignorant of Korean/Asian culture ridicule them :( it’s pretty hurtful to see people insulting them, like insults i’ve seen about my favorite boys from Super Junior-M…  flower boys are such lovely sweethearts and i personally prefer them much more than most guys you see in western countries. XD

    • Anonymous

      true true….i think its also because of the different standards of masculinity that exist in western culture vs korean culture…like in the US men are encouraged/expected to show that they are MEN, and one of those ways is looking like a man aka big muscles etcetc

      • yes, that’s true… and i think it’s also because Korean men tend to have more delicate features than western men, so that’s why they end up pretty XD it’s not something westerners are used to. men in Korea and other Asian countries are allowed more femininity than guys in western countries, so some things that are considered manly in Korea would definitely not be considered manly in the US >___<

  36. Anonymous

    I completely understand. All my friends look at my iPod like it’s a block of SARS because they think all the guys I listen to are gay. -.-;;
    Flower boys don’t transfer very well to Western culture… but I’m sure a heck glad enough I have Asian blood running through me that made it instantaneous for me to adore flower boys <33

  37. LittlePinky82

    I was the same with Jaejoong. I’m a North American girl and totally fell for him right away lol.  Even if he does have his belly button pierced lol (which is kinda still odd to me lol).  Of course I’ve been into Kpop for a good while by the time I fell for Jaejoong so yeah lol.  I think a good guy to show off as a pretty flower boy is Kim Hyunjoong.  He’s still very manly but has that pretty boy look too.  

  38. LittlePinky82

    I was the same with Jaejoong. I’m a North American girl and totally fell for him right away lol.  Even if he does have his belly button pierced lol (which is kinda still odd to me lol).  Of course I’ve been into Kpop for a good while by the time I fell for Jaejoong so yeah lol.  I think a good guy to show off as a pretty flower boy is Kim Hyunjoong.  He’s still very manly but has that pretty boy look too.  

  39. OMG i love flower boys. When I first saw Jaejoong OMO I fell instantly in love. A lot of my friends and people I show pictures to, of him just don’t get it. They always think he is a female or say “IS THAT JUSTIN BEIBER?” Jaejoong DOES NOT LOOK LIKE JUSTIN BEIBER HELLO PEOPLE!!! I think I always liked pretty boys even before I was introduced to flower boys. XD

    • My BFF and I went to The Face Shop and there was a cardboard cutout of Kim Hyunjoong. I told her that he is currently the biggest idol in Korea and she gave me this funny look and said, “He…looks like Justin Bieber…” LOL!

    • My BFF and I went to The Face Shop and there was a cardboard cutout of Kim Hyunjoong. I told her that he is currently the biggest idol in Korea and she gave me this funny look and said, “He…looks like Justin Bieber…” LOL!

    • My BFF and I went to The Face Shop and there was a cardboard cutout of Kim Hyunjoong. I told her that he is currently the biggest idol in Korea and she gave me this funny look and said, “He…looks like Justin Bieber…” LOL!

    • My BFF and I went to The Face Shop and there was a cardboard cutout of Kim Hyunjoong. I told her that he is currently the biggest idol in Korea and she gave me this funny look and said, “He…looks like Justin Bieber…” LOL!

  40. jericho98

    how theres no music monday

  41. jericho98

    how theres no music monday

  42. jericho98

    im srry but i do not like hero at all
     i’m more of a mickey fan
    also i do’nt really think he’s that good looking

  43. Lil Wayne & Foo Fighters – ZOMG NO WAY :D

    and i’ve always felt that JJ looks like a girl – pity my friendS think otherwise :P

  44. lol, I totally agree with Martina about getting used to the ‘flower boy’ look and the same thing happened to me with JJ. Me and my friend introduced the wonderful world of Kpop to our other friend and we showed her a pic of Jaejoong and she just was not going for it, but after a year she is a little Jaejoong obsessed.

  45. lol, I totally agree with Martina about getting used to the ‘flower boy’ look and the same thing happened to me with JJ. Me and my friend introduced the wonderful world of Kpop to our other friend and we showed her a pic of Jaejoong and she just was not going for it, but after a year she is a little Jaejoong obsessed.

  46. Anonymous

    I just watched it…….OMGsun Martina do you know how much i love you now?!!!!!! I watched it……Y..Yo…you..You mentioned Yoong Woong Jaejoong from DBSK ……OMGsun ……. I loveeeeeeee yoooooooou sooooooooooo Muuuuuuuuuuuuuch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hes a real Hunk :D
    so pretty :DDDD  

  47. Anonymous

    Jaejoong is a Real PREETY boy!!!! have you seen his plump lips?, smooth pale white skin, luscious abs, sweet melodious voice, Pretty feminine features, Cute nose, large eyes….-drons on and on-

  48. I FELL IN LOVE WITH YOU GUYS :) you are totally amazing and accurate. My guy friends thought that Hero from JYJ is a gay! *facepalm*  thanks for this post :) 

  49. I FELL IN LOVE WITH YOU GUYS :) you are totally amazing and accurate. My guy friends thought that Hero from JYJ is a gay! *facepalm*  thanks for this post :) 

  50. You should put up pictures. :) 

  51. Flower boys are unappreciated at my school. Others do not seem to find their skinny jeans and v-necks very appealing…sad day.

  52. ahh I love flower boys in Korea (: They’re so cute!! haha but yeah, I get made fun of by my friends ALL THE TIME when I show them idols because they think they look like girls. And granted, some of them do, especially when they’re in drag and they look prettier than me,…. but they’re still cute!! right? right? haha well I love them anyway (: haha 
    Now I really wanna see Simon in one of those SHINee suits (: haha

  53. Tuhina Das

    the thing that I end up wondering most is… how does one country produce so many beautiful people? women and men alike… I know I’m generalizing but it’s the only entertainment industry I’ve encountered in which a large majority of the people have what can be considered good looks D: Korea, you do your thing because I love them flower boys :D

  54. nora chan

    OMG! I love seeing spudgy humping in TLDR.. 
    im so horny :ppp 

  55. I knew instatntly you were talking about Heechul when you said the Super Junior member who could pull off looking like a girl. I want a Heechul Oppa dollie now! They should make super junior dolls, like Sungmin’s in Attack on the Pin-up Boys/Flower Boys.

  56. Anonymous

    Even Bieber gets attacked online for being girly, and you’d think that having rap artists as your role models would be more masculinity than what the average boy is exposed to.

    JB’s got nothin’ up in terms of femininity on Asian idols, or Bill Kaulitz for that matter. There are A TON of famous androgynous boy models from Germany, Sweden, and France. <- which makes me think that young females are naturally inclined to like feminine guys before the media wraps their tastes and Europe is just more in touch with their "natural" side.

  57. That actually happened to me what Martina said I showed my friends a picture of GD&GAHO and they thought GD was a girl holding a wrinkly puppy (this was when GD was blonde for Heartbreaker& GAHO was a little puppy 

  58. I used to think flower boys weren’t hot too, but I was convinced otherwise, I believe America could be somewhat persuaded too. You know, with the existence of Bieber, the Jonas brothers etc (their far less pretty equivalents) and all ;w;

  59. I used to think flower boys weren’t hot too, but I was convinced otherwise, I believe America could be somewhat persuaded too. You know, with the existence of Bieber, the Jonas brothers etc (their far less pretty equivalents) and all ;w;

  60. Hey, i think this sparkly suits traveled to UK..
    I typed korean shiny suits and it showed Daniel Radcliffe:
    http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1813703/0178964855085.jpg

  61. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  62. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  63. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  64. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  65. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  66. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  67. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  68. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  69. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  70. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  71. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  72. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  73. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  74. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  75. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  76. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  77. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  78. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  79. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  80. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  81. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  82. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  83. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  84. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  85. Actually, the androgynous look has been popular periodically in the West, too. Take the whole glam rock movement for example: David Bowie as Ziggy Stardust, Queen, Sweet, etc.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uAeqJqVaJp8/SX_Fvy6MCHI/AAAAAAAAAks/RXQT29z1c5o/s1600-h/queen2.jpg
    http://blogue.us/2009/01/06/kansai-yamamoto-x-ziggy-stardust/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_%28band%29

    In the 80s there was Duran Duran, Boy George, Dead Or Alive, Michael Jackson, etc., at the same time that Annie Lennox and Joan Jett were pushing it from the other side.
    shack.us/img97/781/d9ax.jpg   duran duran
    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/boy_george.jpg
    http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/011/323/0001132374_350.jpg dead or alive
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_frK_8JSsGAI/Skp1cnGRPdI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/0LtDJLI__K8/s400/michael+jackson+bad.jpg
    http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27184347/Eurythmics%2BAnnie%2BSweet%2BDreams.jpg
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e20148c6d6a014970c-800wi

    I think it’s about time for androgyny to make a comeback (in the English sense of that word, not Korea’s version). And if they time it right, Kpop could benefit!

  86. I guess it’s an Asian thing? I mean to be honest, before i heard about how the male celebrities are labelled as “flower boys” and such, i’ve never once thought that they were considered as feminine-looking..they just looked like typical handsome and good-looking Asian men to me.

    • blooming_hinata.sakura95

      I agree with you there. If I think a guy as handsome or (extremely) good-looking => it’s because I perceive them AS handsome and good-looking haha. (Note: Changmin and DBSK FTW!)

  87. Sara Song

    looks like Daniel Radcliffe heard of the shiny suit trend xD 
    http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1813703/0178964855085.jpg
    even though i like flower boys on tv, in reality i dont think they give off a very manly aura…LIKE A MAN! xD

  88. I know what you mean! When I was in Korea one of my friends got a suit made and when he came out I was like “oooh…don’t you look…shinyyyy” he’s small and thin so it kinda worked, but had he been a linebacker or someone similarly built, methinks he would have blinded a few people. I think for the most part, guys over here stick to regular matte suits.

    And about JYJ Jaejoong, when I first saw a picture of TVXQ I said to my Korean friend “these…are females”. Of course this was back int heir Hug days when the whole, fair skinned baby face thing was in. Now it’d be a lot harder to mistake them as girls I think, especially after they did their concept change for Mirotic. I think the trend now is “Beastly” idols, boy groups are manning up (thank god!) The trend of flower boys wouldn’t stick in the US I think. Men here are too consumed with being swoll and manly.

  89. You need to show pictures of the suits!!!!!!

    I actually have a couple of friends that are girls that dress up as guys. They can pass as male (flower boys mostly)… though one is Korean and the other is Chinese. Maybe it’s an Asian thing. They have so little hair. Ahhhh I’m very jealous.

  90. Anonymous

    I think guys can manage to wear those shiny suits here in the U.S., e.g. at weddings.  They would have to be of a certain age and figure to be able to wear those well though…I can’t imagine a 50 year-old pot-belly guy wearing a shiny suit here.  I find this similar to a big woman trying to look good in a hot pink suit… Just no.

    I love ballads, so it was the great vocals that got me into kpop, but I have to agree that I was, and I still am, thrown off by the flower boy type.  I love them for their talents (e.g., acting, singing), but even now, I really dont understand why Heechul and JaeJoong are celebrated for their feminine looks.  I agree that flower boys will never get translated across to the U.S.  I mean, I follow figure skating, a sport that requires a lot of discipline and athleticism, but because it also combines aesthetics (i.e., pretty costumes, sequins, and makeup), the males in that sport often get teased.  So in kpop, instead of goggling over the flower boy types for their physical looks, I prefer to admire them for their talents instead.

  91. FOR YOUR NEXT VIDEO CAN U TALK ABOUT MUSIC BANKS………… read more……………… i am going with my dad to korea next spring and heard about the music bank concerts….. and of course… i am a kpop fan bcuz i watch your videos XD but anyways… i want to know if u guys have been to one and where they are at and also how oftern they are…. i search it on google and it pops up in korean… i cant read and then i asked my friend who is full korean and she has a house in korea and she said she has been to one but i haven’t talked to her much about it… plz plz plz help me :’(

  92. I thought when you said shiny suits, it would be like Hyun Bin’s shiny suit in Secret Garden.  I can’t imagine that being a fad there. Imagine, sparkly work out suits. waaah!

    On the other hand, Jaejoong is really manly when you see him in person. And the muscles, it’s even bigger than some of the manly idols.

  93. Of course everyone remembers Hanson! Mmmbop aside, It’s not like they’ve all died or even retired or something. Their latest album, Shout It Out, just came out last year and was pretty good! Though maybe not as epic as The Walk. MmmBop was silly, but they’ve matured into solid pop rock musicians. Actually, they had a cameo in Katy Perry’s latest music video (Last Friday Night) as well.

    And now that I’ve stopped *almost* gushing over Hanson, when you mentioned Foo Fighters I immediately flashed back to the music videos for Everlong and Learn to Fly where Dave Grohl did dress like a girl/woman. Thank you for reminding of that hilarity!

  94. Actually, studies have been done to that show a correlation with the stability of a country with the preferred male type. In countries with a more stable economy and low death rates, more feminine features are preferred by women. In unstable countries, more testosterone-ish features are wanted. Canada and the US are stable, they aren’t as well off as as say S. Korea or Japan (well, before the earthquake in any case), so flower boys would be less appealing to the female population. I think this factors in. I couldn’t find the original article I read about this, but this is a repeat/review: http://www.sodahead.com/living/women-prefer-girlie-men-are-manly-men-endangered-species/blog-289605/ I thought it was an interesting view. ^_^ Plus, I gotta say, I love how Jaejoong looks!  He’s my favorite flower boy…

  95. I REMEMBER HANSONNNN! i used to sing that MMMbop song with my friends when i was in elementary school. i’m now in graduate school….MAN how time flies. -_____-” 

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS! love the vids~ :) 

  96. Beauty is different all over the world, but we should all be open to new things :)

  97. Those damn… awesome… Asian genes!

  98. Anonymous

    I have shown a picture of Jaejoong to my two sisters, two brother-in-laws, and my parents, and every. single. one. genuinely thought he was a girl until I told them otherwise. <_<

    So yeah! You definitely picked the perfect example to bring up, I guess. xD -will be showing this video to my sister-

  99. Anonymous

    I have shown a picture of Jaejoong to my two sisters, two brother-in-laws, and my parents, and every. single. one. genuinely thought he was a girl until I told them otherwise. <_<

    So yeah! You definitely picked the perfect example to bring up, I guess. xD -will be showing this video to my sister-

  100. Aha I tried to look up “Korean Flower Boys” on Google images, and the first page was all the guys from Boys Over Flowers :D  But I experienced the same thing Martina did: when I first started listening to k-pop, I thought all the guy groups were really weird and girly looking. Then a month later I tried the guy groups out again, and found they were all actual very handsome. I wonder why that is though… ?

    • Anonymous

      Me too I was like ” Is key (SHINee) wearing eyeliner?” then about two weeks later I was like they are so cute. Now when I see any kpop singer looking girly it seems so normal.

    • Anonymous

      Me too I was like ” Is key (SHINee) wearing eyeliner?” then about two weeks later I was like they are so cute. Now when I see any kpop singer looking girly it seems so normal.

  101. sorry, it’s off topic, and this may sound stupid, but what’s your “SEUNGRI! TIME FOR KISSES!” punch line all about? i’ve heard you say it in some of your vids and it made me curious. thanks!

  102. sorry, it’s off topic, and this may sound stupid, but what’s your “SEUNGRI! TIME FOR KISSES!” punch line all about? i’ve heard you say it in some of your vids and it made me curious. thanks!

  103. to be honest, every time you had “SHINee” in the captions…I GOT VERY CONFUSED! XD

    flower boys ARE awesome and hot… :3 :D

    and omg, it’s so annoying when people go on about how feminine and girlie k-pop guys look.
    whenever i show people pictures of taemin or jaejoong… *sigh* it’s a tough life. =w=

  104. alicia ouyang

    Haha yeah I’m at a math camp and you can definitely tell who’s Korean by the way the guys dress. I mean you have the nerdy wear, the usual “summer boy” wear, and then you have the Korean guys who look….Korean? I don’t know how to describe it. It’s like casual but model walk worthy. Though Korean Americans don’t really dress like that. My friend claims she can tell by their face, but come on, you can totally see by their clothes.

  105. jazzyfish

    OK..
    1. NOTHING CAN EVER BE TOO SHINee!!
    2. That happens a lot to me, especially when I try to show them Taemin… makes me upset sometimes, because when I start exclaimng how  AWESOME, and amazing, and how much I love them, they start thinking some pretty weird things…( you know, because I’m a girl, and they think the “flower boys” are girls… * Martina-scrunch-face*)

  106. Flower Boys aren’t girly, they’re just metrosexual. x) aha.

  107. flower boys make me feel ‘LIKE A MAN’ :P

  108. sungksoh

    It is said that Korean language is the most feminine language of all languages in existence.
    Korean language has highly developed adjectives and adverbs and better suited for expressing feelings than describing events or ideas clearly, compared  to more masculine language like English. Maybe that contributes to the flower boy culture. If you watch the celebrated movie “춘향뎐” by director 임권택, the nude love scene between hero and heroine is striking in the sense that the hero’s physique is as fragile and feminine as the heroine and they look like like mirror image of each other. I believe it was intentionally done by the director and shows an aspect of Korean culture.

    • Wow!  Thanks for the insight.  I really want to check that movie out now.

      • sungksoh

        You will be able to find a version with English subtitles. 임권택 won best director’s award at 2002 Cannes Film Festival with this movie. But be warned that the entire movie is narrated(rather, sung) by Pansori singing, a traditional art somewhat like a one-man opera. 

      • sungksoh

        You will be able to find a version with English subtitles. 임권택 won best director’s award at 2002 Cannes Film Festival with this movie. But be warned that the entire movie is narrated(rather, sung) by Pansori singing, a traditional art somewhat like a one-man opera. 

    • This comment is a year old, but as a linguist I have to say that no linguist ever would classify Korean as the most feminine language, because linguists don’t classify languages as masculine or feminine. As someone who studies languages, there would be absolutely no way to quantify this because what is masculine and feminine relates to biology, not language. Also every language has highly developed terms relevant to their culture and are all equally complex. Korean is interesting in that we don’t really know what language family it came from. It’s pretty much a language isolate.

  109. Funny enough, when I saw GD’s Heartbreaker back in August 2009 I was like…what’s that girl doing idgi no thanks. And then, March 2011 I saw a gif of Jaejoong/Hero and I was like…omg he’s cute, who is he…which is how I got into kpop. ;)

  110. I used to be in love with Hanson! XD

    I get the flower boy thing. I was really big into the Japanese visual kei music before I got into kpop, and a lot of times you REALLY can’t tell who is a woman and who is a man because the Japanese have some freaking pretty men. Kpop guys are still cute and pretty but you can still pretty much tell they’re guys (unless they dress up as women. *cough* Taemin *cough*). I’ve got a DBSK and Batoost poster on my wall and every time someone comes over they’re like, “Why do you like guys that look like women? Are you lesbian?” -_-’ I just find them infinitely more attractive than the nasty looking, scruffy, greasy haired rock stars we have in the US. Blerg. DX  Plus you never hear about Kpoppers singing about keeping their hoes in line or how much sex they had. Gives them over 9000 brownie points from me. :)

  111. Oh wow, you guys finally talk about flower boys! Im from Canada too, and my friends don’t undertand it. Now I can just show them this video, instead of trying to explain it to them ^_^

  112. sofia guiotto

    Of course we know hanson! :)

  113. Anonymous

    i’m now scared of u simon! but hmmm i wound wat a flower boy looks lyk?

  114. random question… just a small answer… how much do you two spend on groceries?

  115. Anonymous

    Shiny suits = sexy suits….in Asia :(. I agree with you guys and the commenters. The majority of non-initiated-Asia-lovers tend to find the fellows (that we find ridiculously attractive) feminine. I recently wore a pair of Kim Hyun Joong photo socks….and was asked why I had women on my feet TT_TT 

  116. Well its like the Visual Kei bands of Japan. For example Visual Kei band the gazettE. All of their members are male but if it was the first time you saw them you would think they were girls. The very first time I saw them I was like “omg! so pretty!” and when I found out they were guys I imediately squeeled and blushed “OMG!! SO PRETTY!!!!!” XD

  117. So I google “korean shiny suit“ and a picture of Daniel Radcliffe comes up XD

  118. Harini Bhat

    Aww Jaejoong! Ok well I have a question, do all women in Korea have very milky skin because having darker skin is seen as not as good? I heard that from my friend, but wasn’t sure if that was completely true 

    • Anonymous

      yes it is true.. having darker skin is associated with working class i guess.. because in the older days those who had no money worked in the field and had darker skin because of being expose to the sun.. while richer people had more white skin. 

  119. cloiebuggeater

    Funny thing is my friends who were born in Korea, but adopted and raised here(US), are the ones complaining about how “girlly the men look and I’m thinking how gorgeous they are…..

  120. Actually, I’m kind of glad these trends haven’t transferred over to North America…I really can’t picture the Westerners pulling it off. Korea has created something their own here that they can totally work & spread to other countries that will appreciate it. Like Europe & other parts of Asia. But as for America…I can’t see any Americans that would like or own these trends unless they were born in Korea themselves. Yeah…too many scary/ugly “flower boys” come into mind when thinking of American men doing that XD

  121. Cynthia Essiambre

    lol shiny suits = JYJ concert. XD They have shiny suits in their world tour.

  122. I love shiny suits and flower boys!!!!! hahahhaa, and well, here in Puerto Rico (and in most places in America, I mean, including south, central and north america) most girls like  the manly look, and its been hard for me to share my little obsesion with some kpop artists and actors. It is like, everytime I post something about them on facebook, there are always comments like, “omg is  that a girl?” “they are so so gay” and I really really really get mad, beacsue I cant understand why they  are like that, judging because of the looks( probably tehy are jealous because those guys are too pretty, sometimes, prettier than girls)
    Also, I know the relationship between many guys is like the relationship between girls, they are so cute and sweet, they hug all the time, they play a lot, and also my friends find that so gay, ggggrrrrr, I just think they are cute :P

    anyways, I love that many korean guys look so well(almost like girls) I love them all

    PS I really hate when people say that they are gay, just because they are pretty ggrrrr

  123. I would like to know what the weirdest/strangest anime or cartoon  you have seen on Korea’s tv shows.

  124. Aww darn I thought you guys would mention how guys in Asia wear ANIMAL PRINT clothes! That is something that I could never see happening to us North Americans XDDD
    I showed my friends some big fashion guy actory and he wore like a suit jacket in animal print and my freinds about died laughing as I’m sitting there like “It’s normal there…”

  125. Ola Dziekan

    Actually my friend, that is not into Kpop world, but likes really manly guys, she said that Hero is quite her style. Maybe it’s all about your personal taste? I just got used to it, so it’s no longer a problem for me, but comparing Korean flower boys to Japanese guys….  Korans are filled with testosterone…^^

  126.  i can see the shiny suits in north america….on pimps.

  127. heeehee….When you said SHINee suits….I knew exactly what you were talking about – it’s called *sharkskin* and it’s not actually a new trend. It was worn by the original Rat Pack (Sinatra, Martin, Davis) back in the 60′s. Of course in the almost 50 years since it came out…new weaves of fabric have made it possible to be even MORE SHINee than ever before! I think it’s kinda cool that Korean guys embrace wearing different suit styles – because let’s face it – the standard male suit has remained pretty much unchanged since the 1920′s. Pretty boring.

    Flower Boys – hmmmm..well, I wouldn’t say it’s impossible for it to NEVER catch on – for example David Bowie was wildly popular as Ziggy Stardust and David Lee Roth used to ROCK -OUT in multicolored spandex, waistlength hair & eyeliner during the infamous Hair-Band era. But yes, homophobia in North America makes it a slim prospect.

  128. What is are few daily things that Koreans do that North Americans don’t?

  129. We show a JYJ video to a friend and she think that they are more feminine than her … oups…

  130. I can  totally relate to this!!!!! At school whenever I’m listening to my iPod, people come over, look at the screen, and then say they r so gay. I’ll always get so mad at them because they really shouldn’t judge other people’s cultures. Even other Asian people say they are gay of girly and I really hate it.  NOTHING CAN EVER STOP ME FROM LOVING THE FLOWER BOYS!!!!!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I will always support  our Asian culture!!! Super Junior and SHINee fighting!!!

    • Timni16

      My friends and me are the “Black Kpop Group” in our school and we absolutely ADORE Flower Boys. So skinny, so pretty, fucking gorgeous. I wonder if they like thick girls…

  131. ….so what does korea think of western celebrities…?

  132. martina … sending pics of guys i like to my male friends and getting the “Who’s that chick?” is the story of my life.  Jaejoong, Kim Heechul … Taemin … I feel your pain hun, i feel your pain.

  133. I’m from Canada and it took me a while to know when a korean guy was indeed a man, but now I’m loving it ^^.

    As you said, if I show a picture of Jaejoong (who is sexy Like A Man! <3) to my friends, they would say ''Is that a guy? He's so NOT manly!'' Imagine the japanese visual-kei trend : men are wearing dresses, have long hair and a lot of makeup (Versailles' guitarist, Hizaki, for exemple).

  134. Glen Lee

    Flower Boy,I guess it’s only in the show business trend maybe under 1% of Korean man.
    Almost all Korean man have to do military service, so not allow to put on any girlish image.
    That’s the big big difference among the other Asians.
    I saw many girlish man in Canada even CD. Still Korean society doesn’t accept that much

  135. american culture eveyrthing has to be black and white, thats why there is such a line drawing for whats manly and whats feminie i dont think asians draw that line.
    if you dont spend time watching dramas, listening to kpop or much asian like things at all its hard for ppl to guess genders and ages. my friends still swear amber from f(x) is a boy and im like 3 more questions away from boping them on the head.

    • Anonymous

      i don’t think that what makes non asian people think flower boys are girly are the fact that they think they look like girsl.. I think that they have a very prefect looking image and that is mostly associated with girls so therefore they find it unusual because guys are not supposed to have a perfect like image and a have a more messy looking image to be manly.. I do find flower boys really attractive.. it’s like they where sculpted or something.. so perfect.. I would stare at them all day.

  136. it would be great if you can show some pictures or videos about that.. “girly boys”.. to understand better, in a common day, like boys in a park or something like that.. no in dramas, because that is produced… 

  137. I love the Flower Boy trend, I think that it is so unique and that the guys are sooo attractive. (Taemin of SHINee anyone?) So when inundating someone into the Kpop culture, it is best to do it gradually, like showing Lucifer before showing Hello or Replay, showing 2PM before showing I dunno, name the most flower boy-ish group you can. Silly Westerners need to be gradually immersed into the flower boy culture, then they’ll love it too! :D
    Omo, SHINee suits! ;D I think that will be an interesting trend, maybe I can talk my dad into getting a shiny suit. Hehehe…

  138. Anonymous

    interesting interesting! I’ve noticed that a lot with Asian cultures (china, japan, korea) the distinct line of Masculine and feminine that is found everywhere in western culture is a bit blurry; but its usually just the masculine thats blurry, girls are girls and they do girl stuff, but guys are all cross dressing and wearing make up, and being fabulously fashionable. its really interesting. I personally think flower boys (not to the full extent) have translated into western culture, AKA metro’s! those guys everyone thinks are gay, but really they are just superduper fashionable. but like you say, all the manly football(hockey?) players are like “that Dude is so Gay”

    I posted a Shinee video on my sisters facebook page and a random guy friend was like “are these guys? because they REALLY look like girls. I am pretty sure they are girls. Ugly girls” and all I could say was “THEY ARE NOT UGLY!” hehe But Shiny suits are Totally Suave! but not for everyday wear, more for red carpet wear, that sort of occasion.

  139. oh my friends also think that some kpop idols look like girls!!! It’s so annoing ><

  140. I remember when Hanson first came out I swore Taylor was a girl. Same with Backstreet Boys when they first came out. I was really confused with Nick on the album cover.

  141. Korea (and Japan) seems to have an affinity for androgyny there’s Jaejoong, Kevin (U-kiss), Heechul, Key, Amber- i know she’s not even Korean but her image was born in Korea right? think Hana Kimi and Ouran Host Club.

  142. I am totally into the flower boy guys. They are so cute and adorable.*From America* My siblings all say things like wow is he gay and eww, and I am like are you crazy. But I have always been into the girly guys anyway. C: I have this guy friend and he is like that and everyone will ask if he was into guys and stuff, but he really isn’t that’s just how he is. And for the SHINee suits. I totally love that. Keke!~ Especially if it were in like a barney purple *kidding about the purple*. Also, I hate how people say Amber from f(x) is a guy. She is so pretty and nice. How could anyone say this. Ugh. People these days…

    • Anonymous

      there’s a difference between being a flower boy and acting feminine.. flower boys actually can pull of very manly and sexy performances..

  143. Thank goodness im not the onli one who thinks pretty guys are good looking~~ …. =D

  144. Hahaha! from the Moffats? lmao

  145. Hahaha! from the Moffats? lmao

  146. What’s sad is that flower boys are almost always prettier than girls. So jelly.

  147. What’s sad is that flower boys are almost always prettier than girls. So jelly.

  148. True on the flower boys thing. When I show my Aussie friends Kevin (of U-Kiss), a lot of them think he’s gay.  They kind of think Eli (taekwondo boy, manly-man-man) is cute, though.

  149. I immediately had to go listen to MMMBop after reading this.

  150. I immediately had to go listen to MMMBop after reading this.

  151. Anonymous

    Actually, the flower boys here would likely be labeled as “metrosexual” which may almost be worse than people thinking they were girls…

    Personally, I think there are people here who have no issues adjusting to concepts like that, but they are not the average people, and they are not in the majority, which is a large barrier to KPop making it here in the States in a larger way than it has.  There is a lot more I could say on this (hubby and I actually discussed this for over two hours one night — I love KPop, JPop, JRock, CPop, etc, and he doesn’t, so it was an interesting discussion), but that is for another time..

    • Anonymous

      I agree.. I actually think europe would be a much better market for k-pop because people are more open minded about that stuff here.. in america it’s harder to bring the flower boys concept :/

    • I don’t think metrosexual is really the right word for it.  It’s kinda accurate, yes, but metrosexual men are just highly fashionable, from my understanding.  They don’t have a feminine, androgynous look to them, though.  

      Little known fact: before I (Simon here) was into wearing ridiculous T-Shirts, in university I was really stylish and called metrosexual as well.  I’d never be mistaken as a flower boy, though…

      • Anonymous

        It’s not that metrosexual would necessarily be the correct term, simply the one that, in my experience would likely be used.  A good example of where my experience lies on this:  I live int he central portion of the US, and when I was working in an office, we had two gentlemen who dressed VERY well.  Both were usually up on the latest fashion trends and neither had any issue with wearing “girly” colors like pink or lavender.  One was labeled as “metrosexual” (or even gay by those who didn’t know he had a wife and three kids) while the other was merely “hot.”  The difference?  One had muscles and the other was very thin.  Guess which was called “metrosexual.”  Also, neither would have made good girls.  AT ALL…

        Personally, I like flower boys, but I find myself in the minority on a lot of things on this side of the planet when it comes to Western vs Asian ideas.  Unfortunately, I don’t think the US is ready for the concept of the flower boy and likely will  not be for a very long time.  Pity.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not that metrosexual would necessarily be the correct term, simply the one that, in my experience would likely be used.  A good example of where my experience lies on this:  I live int he central portion of the US, and when I was working in an office, we had two gentlemen who dressed VERY well.  Both were usually up on the latest fashion trends and neither had any issue with wearing “girly” colors like pink or lavender.  One was labeled as “metrosexual” (or even gay by those who didn’t know he had a wife and three kids) while the other was merely “hot.”  The difference?  One had muscles and the other was very thin.  Guess which was called “metrosexual.”  Also, neither would have made good girls.  AT ALL…

        Personally, I like flower boys, but I find myself in the minority on a lot of things on this side of the planet when it comes to Western vs Asian ideas.  Unfortunately, I don’t think the US is ready for the concept of the flower boy and likely will  not be for a very long time.  Pity.

    • even worse than “metrosexual”, many of guys around me (and even girls) say they are totally gay…I so don’t get it…I thought that in 2011, people would realize that taking care of your body and dressing like that does not mean you’re gay…also, what if they would really be gay? they say that in such a negative tone… :(

    • even worse than “metrosexual”, many of guys around me (and even girls) say they are totally gay…I so don’t get it…I thought that in 2011, people would realize that taking care of your body and dressing like that does not mean you’re gay…also, what if they would really be gay? they say that in such a negative tone… :(

  152. My dad and sister say that about the korean bands I listen to D:

  153. Everytime I show my friends a picture of Niel form Teen Top, they say ‘she’ looks pretty. I say that its Niel and he’s a boy but they  are just like “Umm no. That’s a girl.” I have to admit it’s kinda funny when one of my guy friends says “she’s” hot :)

  154. is ‘non-testosteroni’ similar to ‘pepperoni’ ?  XP
    but i get what you mean…i’m way into kpop, but i still think hero is very feminine…

  155. I totally get what you mean!! In Australia …. it’s possibly even worse then the states… guys that dress well are immediately labelled gay!! My Aussie friends don’t get the whole pretty boy this either.  They look at my wallpaper and say they look like girls! ^_^ They once caught me watching gee where sj members all wore girls clothes, they asked me why on earth am i enjoying it!!  Hahaha but I always got the flower boy this ! Maybe cause I’m a half asian? idk.  But yes HEECHUL IS AN AWESOME PRETTY BOY!!! XD <3 

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