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I know you were so lonely these past few days, without our DICKS to keep you company. Aren’t you glad to see us again? And today we’re teaching you how to impress your Korean boss, how to make Soo Zee’s mum laugh, and how to select your ideal fan fiction. Ready? Read on!

Popular phrases (aka 유행어)

Soo Zee here, yo! These phrases and references will definitely come up on your conversations and it’s good to know where it comes from at least. Most of the 유행어 come from the popular comedy TV show ‘Gag Concert’ (link). You might not find this kind of humor funny, and it gets repetitive sometimes but the phrases are pretty catchy.

“느낌 아니깐~~”

 
(start at the 6 minute mark)

This one ranked number one on the list of 2013’s most popular phrases, and it’s funny if you use it here and there in inappropriate context. Please keep in mind, you have to imitate the same tone and way she says it! Just saying it normally wouldn’t make people laugh. You’ve got to put your acting skillz to use.

“앙돼여~~”

Another my favorite phrase these days is 앙돼여~~. This comes from a skit comparing two different middle aged couple who are dating. One is the calm, well-mannered, somewhat average couple, but the other one is loud, obnoxious, and cheesy. Here, watch it first.

 

When she swings her arms and says “앙대여~”, it’s so satisfying. I tried to imitate it, but it was a huge failure… Guys this is Ahjumma aegyo (if you don’t know what aegyo is, just watch our Gwiyomi Challenge video here [insert link]) and I love it! I love her thick needy accent, her outfit, the dance, and the song!!!!

Ship

We all know what fan fiction is, right? If you aren’t sure, you should google fanfic now, otherwise the following paragraphs are going to sound like an alien language. In fact, even if you are familiar with fan fiction in a vague, general sense, you still might be confused, because the fan fiction community has a whole host of very specific terms for very specific things.

We talked about “ship” this week, which is short for “relationship.” Fanfics usually center around a central relationship in a set of previously established characters. These fanfics “ship” those (usually two) characters. Likewise, fans of a pairing are “shippers” of so-and-so. You can ship two people that are not actually together in the original canon. For example, Martina who loves fanfic, ships Loki and Jane (known as Lokane from Thor), Draco and Hermione (from Harry Potter), and Buffy and Spike.

I’m not an expert, so I’m relying on you Nasties to help us out with the specifics. There is such an incredible diversity of fan fictions out there, and there’s no way we could talk about it one measly blog post. But in case you’re new to fan fiction and trying to navigate the vast amount of work out there, here are some other fan fiction terms you might come across:

OTP – one true pairing (we covered this in the video)
Slash – homosexual pairings, like GD/TOP or Hermione/Ginny
Oneshot – usually fanfic is written in chapters and posted as the writer develops the story. A oneshot is a standalone, single writing piece
Fluff – usually short, generally not plot heavy, always romantic and warm fuzzies-inducing
Canon – when the events portrayed are accurate to the official source material. so, since Jay Park left 2PM in real life, he’s not part of 2PM in a canon piece either
AR – alternate reality, usually a “what-if” scenario that uses the source material as a jumping off point, like if Edward never returned to Forks and Bella stayed with Jacob
Crossover – mixing your characters or worlds from different source materials, say Loki and Sookie Stackhouse
Lemon/Lime/Citrus/Smut/M – contains sexual material and/or might only focus on sexy times (but sometimes it is fantastic plot with a splash of sexy times)

Do you agree with the above definitions? Have they changed recently or mean something different to you? Let us know! I would absolutely love to recommend some stellar fan fiction for you guys, but I haven’t really read all that much. So maybe we could all help each other out and share some good ones in the comments? We should probably indicate what kind of style/genre/ship. That would be really cool. And let’s try to be nice and non-judgemental here, okay? Different strokes for different folks. Intern Leigh out!

Bonus Round : 싸가지

I found out while writing this blog post 싸가지 comes from 강원도. It’s their way of pronouncing 싹수.
싸가지 means a person who is rude, mean, or has bad manners. It’s generally used when you want to insult someone by calling them a horrible person.

It’s used as a noun, or as part of a phrase.
1) 싸가지 (noun. Rude person)
2) 싸가지(가) 없다 (That person is very rude)

Here are some different ways to say being rude:
1) 싹수가 없다
2) 싹수가 노랗다
3) 버릇이 없다
4) 버르장머리가 없다
5) 무례하다

Martina’s Interjection!

Hey guise. Martina here. Remember when we asked you this:

fanfiction sharing

don't worry be happy

We wanted to share some of your favourite kpop fanfics for this post, which we thought would be appropriate given the topic. I am an avid fanfic reader myself, and I know that it can take a loooong time to scan, read, and flip through various fanfic communities in search of a favourite author or story. So, I thought I could enlist your help in finding some of the best kpop fanfics.

We got a lot of excited tweets and emails from fans of fanfic sharing their fav stories, as well as actual authors who wanted to share their stories with us. Oddly, though, there was an explosion of people that did not share in the excitement. For example:

So Angry Tweet

Already made my own fanfic

Public Fanfic tweet

the fanfic grumbles

fanfic problems

Yup. The kpop fanfic community freaked out, shut down, and imploded over one tweet. People panicked over their assumptions about what we would create, over a video of ours that didn’t actually exist, since we were never going to made a review of fan fiction. All this fear and anger coming out of misconstrued conclusions formed in the rumour mill and passed along Tumblr. LET THIS BE A LESSON ON THE DANGERS OF GOSSIP!

We even got emails and tweets from people demanding that we must first ask permission before we use any fan fiction, as if they knew what we were going to do to begin with. When we responded to these people and linked them to our tweets, they had various responses like, “Oh, I don’t have twitter so I didn’t see that” or “I don’t follow you on twitter” or “oh I read about your filming in a forum”. Whut? So you didn’t even see our tweets, but you form conclusions and thought the worst without even looking into it?

After that we realized there was clearly no point of putting up another tweet explaining our actual intentions since:
A) Angry people don’t seem to listen to what we say anyway. They just like being angry and wading through Outrage Porn
B) This video was coming out soon and would just explain it all away.

So if you’re one of the people who freaked out at us over the implosion of the Kpop Fanfic world, do some research first before you come to conclusions from secondhand accounts. And for those of you that locked up your once totally public fanfic accounts, be freeeeee knowing that we have zero interest in making a video reviewing your fanfic writing skills. We simply wanted to share your work with other readers. Now, everyone take a deep breath and put your stories back up online because you have fans that really want to read your stories. Or, more importantly, if online privacy is important to you, take more steps to ensure your privacy and the protection of your work, or – well – just don’t post stuff online if you’re afraid of online commentary.

Martina’s Interjection Over!

Stay tuned for next DICKS, where Martina promises she won’t not tell you how to not tie a cherry stem without your tongue. You don’t not want to miss that, now do you? Make sure you subscribe by clicking that big, shiny red button below. We’ll make sure you don’t miss out. And if you have any awesome slang we should know about, let us know, either in the comments below or via twitter. 뿅!

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  1. I’m so happy that I wasn’t around when these things happened. I would really find everyone ridiculous in case. This fanfiction issue was a big case of misunderstanding and lack of information.

  2. the thing with the money though- the concept is that every youtuber (and i guess we have to count EYK as youtubers now, as much as i cringe at that thought) makes money like an entertainer, a celebrity/idol/etc so to speak, so naturally the money they earn from ad revenue goes to increasing their entertainment output, like more YT videos, as well as personal money spendings.
    and it does all go into profit- thats the entire point of making money from YT videos in the first place. (movie directors dont produce movies just to have the money go back into another movie- they aim for million dollar box office hits so that profit happens)

  3. Thank you for being a logical breath of fresh air!
    honestly you basically summed up everything in a more mature manner than how S&M have been posting/replying to the issues with this controversy. other things worth mentioning- privilege and racism, but thats a whole other topic.

  4. o_O Why would they shut down accounts because of that? Lock the story, sure, but deactivating accounts is a bit extreme.

  5. I never knew Martina read fanfics ><

    #hunhanftw

  6. Some fanfic vocab:

    BroTP – Bro OTP (friendly, non-romantic pairing)
    AU – Alternate Universe (I’ve heard this more often than AR)
    drabble – short piece of fluff, usually just a paragraph or two
    genderswap – swapping the genders of established characters
    raceswap – changing the ethnicities/cultures of established characters

    prompt – idea for a story sent to a writer
    to beta – to proofread someone’s work before it’s posted

  7. Can you discuss dialects, specifically the Seoul dialect, and how it differs from other dialects. As a non-korean, I can’t tell the difference but in Kdramas, such as Reply 1997, they always point out the difference. ><

  8. The most controversial DICK ever..

  9. And this video has brought me to the scary side of the internet… o.O

  10. I have two authors that I particularly love from fanfiction.net, one that writes mostly AUs using Kingdom Hearts characters, and other that writes from Harry Potter. kurosora1984 writes absolutely amazing fanfiction mostly pairing Roxas and Axel, and also Demxy and Zexion. Her stories can be long (like my absolute favorite novel-sized one, show me the money) or short and sweet, and range in plot from super fluffy and cute, to very hardcore, to focusing on the beginnings of a relationship. The other author, dracosoftie, I like because of one story in particular, Must Love Quidditch. This story takes place years after the end of the war, where Harry is an ex Aurour writing adventure novels under a fake name, and Draco is head of his father’s old company, past married with a young kid. The story starts with both boys joining a magical dating site, in order to fine someone who is interested in who they are and not their fame/money. You can see where this is going… xD I love them both because their writing is mature and well thought out, and the stories are extremely believable, and you fall in love with their versions of the characters instantly, and are hooked by the plot just as quick.

  11. this helps so much. thank you!

  12. if you are worried about your Idols feelings regarding KMMs,you more than likely do not have to be. Many an Idol has mentioned to EYK that they have watched and enjoyed their review of them and thought it was funny. for instance EYK had an Impromptu interview with U-kiss where they told EYK straight up that they Enjoyed their reviews of them and thought it was funny. they are good friends with Amber from F(x) and Brad from Busker Busker. Shindong from Super Junior even said he watches them and likes the reviews.. During the EYKAs a lot of Idols wanted to be (and some were) involved in the vids for it, knowing they would be poking fun at some of it ( but due to scheduling conflicts were unable to). watch the vids for the EYKas if you don’t believe me. Idols are very aware that every song and MV they put out there could be a hit or a flop so bad even the most hardcore fans can’t stand behind it.. so I don’t get why you are so worried about Your idols feelings about being reviewed by EYK…

  13. Is it bad to say I was sort of looking forward to a video on fanfiction. I love to read fanfiction and had even contemplated doing a vid vlog of fanfictions I liked, but after seeing all this insanity, dang. I mean, shouldn’t authors be happy EYK is international, people from all over the world could hear about or fics and read them. I’ve been writing fanfiction for over eight years and written over 2 hundred fanfics on two different accounts from different genres and things. Fanfiction writers are authors who open themselves to criticism from their very readers in comments, but I see you all run and hide. It is clearly dumb.
    I’m sorry I’m ranting, but it makes me so upset that so many people can be like this.

  14. Not in the fanfic community but I am part of a few fandoms which use the exact same terms plus a few more! i tend to see AU, Alternate Universe, used more than AR (probably because when I see AR I think Augmented Reality, like Google Glass) and I’ve also seen OT3 or One True Threesome (which is usually a pretty doomed ship since I can think of like, one time in all the fiction I’ve read/seen where it actually happened, love you for that Star Driver!)

  15. wow we could do a two hour debate about this wow people are writing like 5 min speech worth of words…. calm down peeps the world is still strong…

  16. While fan-fiction is okay, I wonder how people can really say it’s plagiarism to barrow fic. Characters are inserted from shows and fiction that is already established without the consent of the original creator. I wonder how some original creators feel about fanfics of their work. (Worse case the fic is about real people, which seems a little awkward to me. Sorry to offend if I do.Not my intention.) Your story may be original and well constructed, but from copyrighted ideas. As for EYK, I understand that some of you guys are really miffed, but I honestly think it was a misunderstanding. This is nothing to spread hate about. I can understand the scariness of having something you worked hard on put out there, but maybe better communication next time?

  17. I read fanfiction. I write fanfiction. I also like Eat Your Kimchi.

    I think everyone is being immature and throwing a tissy-fit. And by everyone, I don’t mean just fanfiction writers and readers; I mean everyone.

    First of all, everyone is simply making assumptions. Assumptions that fanfiction people are always butthurt or on the attack. Assumptions that Nasties/EYK fans aren’t the sort of people into the fanfiction scene. Assumptions that Simon and Martina’s jokes and/or criticisms are meant negatively or even maliciously.

    You know what? Some people really do suck at writing. Some people have really good stories, but poor control or ability. Some people have amazing writing and poor plots. Some people don’t understand spelling or grammar or the logic of this world and how to relate it into fiction. I have to say, I’m very embarrassed by my own works and their poor quality. But if it’s publicly available on the internet, it’s publicly visible on the internet. And maybe “friends” or “fellow fans” share them which you’re okay with; but some of those fans have their own friends who may not be into fanfiction. They may see what they shared and dislike it. They make think it’s silly and have a laugh. They may actually really love it, and consequently get into the scene. Who knows? But public stuff can get around. If you have an issue with material potentially being available to the mass public, there are ways and sites to keep it private or simply limited. If you have it in a public place, you’re actually a very brave individual and ought to be commended. The internet is a very scary place at the best of times.

    But something I really would like to point out: for those whose greatest fear were getting violent, rude, malicious attacks or comments from “outsiders” or “nonfans”, what do you think these heavy responses from the fanfiction community were? When you talk about EYK, are judging them? Sharing your judgments within your own community who may or may not be within theirs? Are nonEYK followers seeing these responses and making fun of or else hating on Simon and Martina? Are you being harsh or hyper critical or violently hating on them? And for what? Their own personal creativity in trying to share what they love or find silly or occasionally ridiculous? Isn’t that what you’re doing? Isn’t that what we are all doing?

    Think of what you’re most afraid of, or what you believe to be hurtful or out of line for other communities to do to yours. And don’t do it to the other communities. Really take a moment to consider how what you’re doing could be construed by other communities, and if it’d be appropriate for them to do. Whether you’re a Kpop fan, a Nasty, a fanfiction reader/writer, or any other affiliation you proudly proclaim yourself apart of: Be respectful. Be reasonable. Be kind.

  18. MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE SHIPPING OF ALL TIME IS ZUTARA (ZUKO X KATARA FROM AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER) omg like you don’t even know how much i wanted them to be together hahaha thanks leigh for talking about shipping!! andddd I’m sooo confused as to why people were outraged… o.O

  19. I love you Martina and Simon! Ignore this and move on. People go crazy when their fandoms are concerned. I had a student that last month compared the struggles of Justin bieber to those of Nelson mandela.

  20. *cough cough* . . .*whispers* I ship Leigh and Soo Zee . . . . *runs away*

  21. Oh man. Some people can be cruelly judgemental. I don’t get it though; I’m not sure what you were going to do but shouldn’t fanfic writers be happy that you give them publicity? We all know how seriously you take intellectual property.
    That could have been great. I’m not a massive fanfic fan as they tend to freak me out from time to time when it’s real people but I’ve stumbled upon some pretty good ones (and written a few) and I’d love tonsee the authors’ work recognised.
    One the other hand, while these people clearly overreacted, I understand it’s a touchy subject.

  22. wow, you would think that people who write fanfic would be happy about the promotion/traffic a little publicity like this would get them, right? i just don’t understand why your haters seem to get their panties in a twist at every little opportunity. i for one would have been happy to hear you rec some stuff since i don’t read fanfic anymore since there is just too much crap to sift through to find the gems… but if i knew like “ooh, this is a fic Martina likes” then i would definitely check it out. SHUT UP YOU HATERS!! POO YOU!!! well anyways, these people should get a life, i guess… though it doesn’t even seem to be the writers that got upset… i don’t get it… well anyways… moving on!

  23. Of course they picked some of the worst tweets they got, the whole issue for them is over the people who freaked out at them. Why would they show anything but that?

  24. And Simon and Martina, please continue to speak your views without sugarcoating to suck up to butthurt fangirls. EYK hwaiting ^.^

  25. Before my rant, let me say this. There is NOTHING wrong with sending a link to a famous youtuber. Nothing. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. You’re fcking putting it on the internet, it’s MEANT to be shared! Its the internet. Where you make one mistake and you’re famous enough, the whole world will ridicule you. The INTERNET I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH YOU EXPECT THINGS ON THE INTERNET TO REMAIN PRIVATE? Far out, you’re risking privacy when you make a facebook account. People make fricken memes out of peoples’ pictures!

    Dayummm the fanfic community is fcking scary O.o Here, take some mentos. Now put it in your mouth, stand on the balcony, spit out the mentos and slap yourself. Why mentos? Why a slap? No fcking clue, it makes no sense. Exactly like this whole outrage.

    Not everyone likes EYK, their sense of humour is sometimes… Dirty and not everyone likes it. That’s fine, everyone’s sense of humour is different. I’m the type not to get butthurt when they insult my bias so yea. They make some pretty insensitive comments now and then so authors might have been scared if EYK mocked their fic or something like that. I tootally understand that. The ‘DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH AUTHORS DELETED THEIR FICS IM GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU’ was a taaaaaad harsh (and by a tad I mean far out take a deap breath and talk from your mouth not your asshole) but after they cleared it up, people are STILL complaining. They didn’t even mention any fics in their video! My generation -.-

    People are saying that they could have cleared the misunderstanding in their first tweet by putting in more detail. Why da fuck would they do that? They didn’t know fucking idiots would go apeshit and start to sign their names in their death notes!

    “What’s your favorite fanfic? Send us a link and we juuuust might use it for our upcoming video!” They didn’t know they had to include EVERY SINGLE DETAIL that would involve the use of the fanfics because some people would go apeshit. No one tweets like that, seriously. By your logic:

    My tweet: Hey, yesterday was fun Ashley, ^.^ Wanna hang out again?

    Ashley’s reply: FUCK U IDIOT WHAT PART WAS FUN THE BIT WHERE WE SAW THAT POOR KID GET BULLIED YOU INSENSITIVE BITCH, WE ARE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE.

    The ‘expected’ tweet from le moi: Hey, yesterday the bit when we went shopping at the shopping centre in Sydney and watched Frozen and ate icecream near that fountain but excluding the bit when we saw that kid get bullied was really fun ^.^ We should do that again.

    Certain vagueness in tweets, messages and speech are to be expected.

    And BTW, I write fanfics also. If you can’t handle criticism for work YOU chose to publish on the web, maybe you shouldn’t publish them. My 2 cents.

    Come at me bitchesssssssss ^.^

    • I know why authors were mad and scared at the time, i said i understood that. Its why everyone is so freaked out right NOW, when they clarified everything, no fanfics were used in the video and blaming the first tweet for starting the whole mess. Vagueness is expected, you cant expect details in a tweet they never would have thought would have blown up into a shitstorm. And to my first point, it is the internet. People shared that… Lovely SimonxKevin fanfic and sent it to S&M. They tweeted it around and fcebooked it. If you put something on the internet, you really cant expect FULLY ‘what goes in the fandom stays in the fandom’. Photos are shared around everywhere all the time along with fanart, jokes, statuses etc. i dont get why fanfics want special treatment? If you’re publishing something, whether in books, a news article or the web, you cant expect only a certain group of people will read it cause its out in the PUBLIC.
      I actually commend people for taking down their fics if they didnt want them read before the video came out, protect your work if you dont want it shared. The video’s out, no harm is done and everyone’s intellectual property is protected. People should stop shitting on about ‘oh that damn first tweet was soooooooooooooo misleading they should’ve clarified ittttttt omgggg’ because it was a harmless (to EYK) tweet some people took the wrong way. They could not forecast how crappy some people would react.
      And the ‘come at me bitchesss’ thing, soz if you took it the wrong way, its like, not directly calling people bitches its more of a hype people use to you know… Hype XD

  26. then they should simply make it available to a chosen few and no one else. its fine to be uneasy and nervous. but if you are that afraid of what others may think don’t put it online or make it available to only the few you are comfortable reading it.. no need to fling such hate and rudeness at another person for wanting to share it with other people. a simple no thank you would have been enough.

    • I must direct you to the start of Martina’s interjection where she quite clearly says there were readers AND AUTHORS that were excited to have their work shared that contacted them. If you had also read one of their response posts to they again state that they did respond to several authors who contacted them with questions about their intent. If Some of them did not get responded to I suspect that was because by the time they sent their query EYK was already receiving a ton pf hate messages and it got buried in the craziness. Of course the rude comments were highlighted, because it was posts like those that blew this situation up and turned and innocent (if very vague) question into a storm of unnecessary internet rage.

      • What kind of fairness are you asking for? If you have read some of the posts EYK has posted on this forum in response to others posts you would know they mentioned other authors who calmly ask for and were given details. And some of them politely declined. I do not condemn any of them for locking their work. That is their right to do so. And I do not think most of the rude responses they posted on here were authors and neither did she specify them as authors… so I am not quite understanding why you don’t think they are being fair to the authors and a people who didn’t flip out…

        • couldn’t figure out how to link previous forum post so I just copied and pasted.. though seriously you could have found them yourself if you read through the comments on this forum…

          Simon and Martina

          Nasty Mod

          kurizou

          3 days ago

          One thing I didn’t understand: if we said we wouldn’t post a video
          without the author’s permission, then why did the people we didn’t
          contact need to know what we were going to do in our video? We’re
          always vague about what we’re going to do in future videos.

          But to many people that were respectful who contacted us privately
          rather than freaking out at us publicly, we answered them respectfully.

          Simon and Martina

          Nasty Mod

          rosechan2134

          2 days ago

          Hmm. I see what you’re saying here. I’m sorry our post came across
          as condescending. I can see how it would read that way. I guess after
          enduring a torrent of anger for the past few days, our words were
          indelicate, given the shitty state we were in.

          So, I’d like to address a few points, if I can:

          1) We posted the tweets far apart, not out of malicious intent, but
          out of sleeping. We posted the first tweet at night, turned off social
          media, had a glass of wine and watched a movie, then went to bed. We
          were expecting to wake up and see lots of tweets to cool fanfics.
          Instead, we woke up and saw all of the outrage.

          2) We thought that telling people we wouldn’t use anyone’s work
          without their permission would be enough. If we didn’t contact you,
          you’d have nothing to worry about, no? Whatever your history of
          mistrust of the internet or anger towards us, I think that Tweet was
          pretty fair for majority of authors.

          3) For people that locked their works, great for you! And I don’t
          mean that sarcastically. Seriously: ensure that your work is protected
          as much as you can. We take as many steps as we can to protect our
          work, so we understand. I’m hoping there’s some internet platform out
          there in which you can create your work and control its distribution.
          If there isn’t, here’s to hoping that one can be built.

          But, 4) I know the Internet is the Internet. We’re less idealistic
          than most. If it’s out there in public, it’s no longer yours. Gone.
          People will take it and misconstrue it and remix it and bastardize it
          and rip it out of context and do whatever they want with it. It happens
          to us on a regular basis. It sucks that it happens, but that’s the lay
          of the land. We’ve grown used to it now, and we didn’t think that
          other people might not be used to that yet.

          Simon and Martina

          Nasty Mod

          rosechan2134

          2 days ago

          Final thought I wanted to get across. Martina here! We’re actually
          not upset at the writers at all. Not at all! At least, those writers
          that wrote calm explanations or that simple chose to private their
          accounts with no explanation. They’re totally allowed to do that and I
          totally understand the concern of this private world being exposed. As a
          fanfic reader myself, I don’t have friends that reads fanfic or that I
          can talk to about fanfic, so perhaps for some people it’s too private to
          be shared.

          What we’re upset at is those people that saw this event happening and
          in the course of just 3-4 days thought it was okay to death threat,
          name call us, harass us, and even harass other people who were tweeting
          stories to us. That’s not okay and I find it really hard to just brush
          it off.

          People keep saying, “oh if you were just clear about your tweet this
          wouldn’t have happened” but if I knew this kind of reaction would have
          happened I wouldn’t have even bothered to put out a tweet. I’ve learned
          my lesson and while the fanfic world can say “Yay! They’re not going to
          do anything” we still have to deal with the bullying and name calling
          from strangers whose faces I can’t see. I can’t see their faces, but
          they can see mine. And that’s what I’m so upset about.

  27. It’s nice to see an English slang term that actually has so much relevancy to probably a lot of the viewers. I’m extremely behind on slang usually so seeing something I know come up was pretty nice. Some fanfic terms have broken free of fanfic and now run rampant on Tumblr. Loads of people who maybe don’t read fanfiction ship otp’s as reality on Tumblr.

    Also to all the people flipping out over Martina’s interjection… I really think we read two completely different things. What I read didn’t criticize the authors actions so much as it criticized the fanatical readers who took things and blew them aggressively out of proportion. Like a few other people have said, all anyone had to do was ask. Even if EYK wanted to be vague on a whole I’m sure they wouldn’t mind clarifying things on a case by case basis for any authors who had concerns.

    One thing I don’t get… yes EYK makes fun of stuff. They make parodies. Occasionally they satirize things. They don’t do that with everything, so why would you assume that’s what they wanted the fics for? Since they asked for recommendations you should assume they were going to be used positively. I know if I were going to openly mock something or do anything that could be construed as negative I wouldn’t ask for recommendations first.

  28. Um anyways.
    I use those terms as part of text slang (similar to how I use lol) in that I would say: “I SHIP THIS COUPLE” “THE SHIP HAS SAILED” “WE GON’ DOWN WITH THIS SHIP”. And yes, I do tend to capitalise my words when using the word “ship” because only then can my “feels” be conveyed.
    In any case, I really enjoyed this weeks DICKS (probably because I relate to fanfic slang more so than gym slang). SooZee and Leigh are hilarious as always. Too bad I don’t follow Gag Concert but many entertainers and dramas do refer to many of the gags that are shown on the program. As a result, even if a Korean show or interview is subbed, there are some things that are lost in translation and that’s just a cultural barrier I’m willing to look past. Looking forward to next week’s DICKs.

  29. I have come out of lurker mode as I feel so strongly about this Issue I couldn’t not comment. I can see the Other side, how Fanfic authors and readers alike might be nervous and uncomfortable not knowing what it was going to be used for. However in all the rude and horribly mean posts that I read no one even bothered to straight up ASK Simon and Martina what it would be used for, everyone just freaked out. A whole lot of Crazy and and rudeness could have been avoided if someone had been rational and simply asked why they wanted it. And instead of flipping out all they had to do was say no when EYK asked to use their work.

    (Mini Rant)
    I can understand being nervous and uncomfortable, even afraid of your work being criticized and/or mocked. But you posted it on the INTERNET to be seen by the world. You have made it available for all to see, to read it and feel about it as they will. You made the conscious decision to place it where any and all might view it and express their opinions on it. If you are going to post it where others may view it, then OWN IT. Simon and Martina OWN their videos, whether people liked it or hate it its there for others to see, if they make mistakes they admit it and do their best to make amends and fix the issue. If you are going to freak out and hide your work the moment someone wants to share it with large amounts of people, it makes me wonder if you aren’t secretly ashamed of your work. If you are that afraid of criticism why post it online in the first place? You cannot please everyone, there will be people who love it, hate it and feel meh about it. Its the INTERNET for goodness sakes! The object of your work (if fanfic) or someone who disagrees with the way you have written it or its content may stumble across it, whether just trolling the net or someone else may have sent them a link to it. It was and is always a possibility. If you are going to post things on the net regardless of the format you choose (written, video, etc..) be prepared for someone to bash it, mock it and/or want to hate you for it.. Again I understand the fear and the nerves, I too like to write (though I have yet to publish or post anything.. it never seems quite finished enough…). But if you are afraid of the masses reading your stuff and offering possible negative opinions on it, then password protect it and only let your chosen few read it.

    (Rant Over)
    Sorry for the rant, but it I feel it needed to be said. Resuming Lurker mode….

  30. Fanfiction, as we have all seen, is a very touchy subject. The fanfiction I read and write are something I value and it is a bit scary to share them with others because it opens it up to ridicule.
    The thing is, whether or not someone wants their stories to be “publicly” spoken of is not the problem.
    The issue is that when the tweet that requested recommendations was made, instead of simply asking what it was for, people jumped the gun and started threatening Simon and Martina. Even when they said that they would ask the authors for permission, death threats (is that even necessary?) were given.
    I understand how special fics are and how much we treasure them, but people need to stop over-reacting. Simon and Martina aren’t unreasonable. If that many people have an issue, they’ll listen. No death threats required.
    By the way, I’ve seen AU used more than AR though I’m sure many people use it.

    • I wasn’t aware that people had asked, so thank you for the clarification.
      I won’t judge the fandom, considering I’m a part if of the fanfiction fandom it would be a bit hypocritical(?), but I am slightly irritated that some feel they have to threaten someone over the Internet.
      Thank you for the nice reply; I was half-expecting a huge rant from someone else.

  31. Wow…. There’s like essay worth of comments… I don’t really care what u do with those fanfics… We trust u that you won’t do anything bad.. They are kinds there for people to read and review about it so I don’t even know why the hell this fuss was going on… It’s just a fanfic.. Not a nuclear explosion.. People seriously need to grow up sometimes…

  32. LOL, hey, I’m an author myself, and yeah, I hope you guys DO ask for permission first, and I think you would ^^ But geez, those are just raging for lack of info, dude…

  33. And I was watching old EYK videos with the EYK crew all together and my gosh you guys have all changed so much within the space of a year :’) Makes me go all “Awwww u gaiz!”

  34. I used to be so into fanfiction and even tried writing it myself. I know look back on my 14 year old self’s writing and cringe constantly at how bad it is/was ><

  35. I know that most of the comments are targeted towards the tweets but… OOOOOOH! Now I know what the gag concert is. I’ve seen a few skits of gag concert. One that I’ve seen that is good to watch without subtitles is BalleriNO. It’s an older one, but good.

  36. Damn. I’m just hear looking at this video and reading these comments. Shit fucking went down!! Some people overreact too easily and too quickly.

  37. i was actually looking forward to the fanfic recommendation, because its really hard for me to find one that i actually like. It would be a lie to say i wasnt suprised though. eyk seems to get hate for everythinggg they do :c

    For the fanfics that i DO read i find asianfanfics… not the best place for fics. I’d look more towards the a kpop groups fansite and usually they will have a “fanfic section”

    • EYK get hate for everything they do =/ Pretty sad but you know, the internet XD Crazy keyboard warriors out there Ahahaha

    • I was the same as you.. I was curious as to what everyone eould suggest, but gave up after seeing the first few rage comments & no recs (tho I understand the initial fear.. once they posted they would be asking permission, all the hate after that was kinda uncalled for)

      p.s what kinda fanfics recs were you looking for? (oh, and do you have a twitter?)

  38. i read martina’s writing on the blog in “martina rage voice” (the one in their video swhere they added a low pitched monster-ish effect on the voice)

  39. I think it’s really hard for people to understand what it’s like to be a blogger and to have an onslaught of negativity that all stems from something being twisted and misunderstood. Bloggers are humans too and sometimes things need to be addressed. You might not have seen anything about it, but for the blogger, their past few days might have been consumed with being attacked and seeing that negativity. It’s really easy for people to think what they would do in that situation and think “I wouldn’t say anything, I would just ignore.” But if you haven’t been in that situation you really don’t know.

    Had this been the first time they had ever had negativity like this then yes that response would probably have been unnecessary. But this comes on the back of a lot of ridiculous hate and lies that have been going around. The reason why it got out of control is because those that fuel the hate and rumors made up gossip about what was going to happen. As Martina said, many fanfic authors hadn’t even seen the original tweet, they had only seen something in forums or on tumblr about what was going to happen where things had been completely fabricated.

    I can see both sides, where people don’t want people they follow to react to anything, but if you have never been in that situation I don’t think it’s fair to judge what someone should do if you have no idea how it has impacted their life.

  40. EYK I MADE A FANFIC ABOUT YOU GUYS

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