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I know you were so lonely these past few days, without our DICKS to keep you company. Aren’t you glad to see us again? And today we’re teaching you how to impress your Korean boss, how to make Soo Zee’s mum laugh, and how to select your ideal fan fiction. Ready? Read on!

Popular phrases (aka 유행어)

Soo Zee here, yo! These phrases and references will definitely come up on your conversations and it’s good to know where it comes from at least. Most of the 유행어 come from the popular comedy TV show ‘Gag Concert’ (link). You might not find this kind of humor funny, and it gets repetitive sometimes but the phrases are pretty catchy.

“느낌 아니깐~~”

 
(start at the 6 minute mark)

This one ranked number one on the list of 2013’s most popular phrases, and it’s funny if you use it here and there in inappropriate context. Please keep in mind, you have to imitate the same tone and way she says it! Just saying it normally wouldn’t make people laugh. You’ve got to put your acting skillz to use.

“앙돼여~~”

Another my favorite phrase these days is 앙돼여~~. This comes from a skit comparing two different middle aged couple who are dating. One is the calm, well-mannered, somewhat average couple, but the other one is loud, obnoxious, and cheesy. Here, watch it first.

 

When she swings her arms and says “앙대여~”, it’s so satisfying. I tried to imitate it, but it was a huge failure… Guys this is Ahjumma aegyo (if you don’t know what aegyo is, just watch our Gwiyomi Challenge video here [insert link]) and I love it! I love her thick needy accent, her outfit, the dance, and the song!!!!

Ship

We all know what fan fiction is, right? If you aren’t sure, you should google fanfic now, otherwise the following paragraphs are going to sound like an alien language. In fact, even if you are familiar with fan fiction in a vague, general sense, you still might be confused, because the fan fiction community has a whole host of very specific terms for very specific things.

We talked about “ship” this week, which is short for “relationship.” Fanfics usually center around a central relationship in a set of previously established characters. These fanfics “ship” those (usually two) characters. Likewise, fans of a pairing are “shippers” of so-and-so. You can ship two people that are not actually together in the original canon. For example, Martina who loves fanfic, ships Loki and Jane (known as Lokane from Thor), Draco and Hermione (from Harry Potter), and Buffy and Spike.

I’m not an expert, so I’m relying on you Nasties to help us out with the specifics. There is such an incredible diversity of fan fictions out there, and there’s no way we could talk about it one measly blog post. But in case you’re new to fan fiction and trying to navigate the vast amount of work out there, here are some other fan fiction terms you might come across:

OTP – one true pairing (we covered this in the video)
Slash – homosexual pairings, like GD/TOP or Hermione/Ginny
Oneshot – usually fanfic is written in chapters and posted as the writer develops the story. A oneshot is a standalone, single writing piece
Fluff – usually short, generally not plot heavy, always romantic and warm fuzzies-inducing
Canon – when the events portrayed are accurate to the official source material. so, since Jay Park left 2PM in real life, he’s not part of 2PM in a canon piece either
AR – alternate reality, usually a “what-if” scenario that uses the source material as a jumping off point, like if Edward never returned to Forks and Bella stayed with Jacob
Crossover – mixing your characters or worlds from different source materials, say Loki and Sookie Stackhouse
Lemon/Lime/Citrus/Smut/M – contains sexual material and/or might only focus on sexy times (but sometimes it is fantastic plot with a splash of sexy times)

Do you agree with the above definitions? Have they changed recently or mean something different to you? Let us know! I would absolutely love to recommend some stellar fan fiction for you guys, but I haven’t really read all that much. So maybe we could all help each other out and share some good ones in the comments? We should probably indicate what kind of style/genre/ship. That would be really cool. And let’s try to be nice and non-judgemental here, okay? Different strokes for different folks. Intern Leigh out!

Bonus Round : 싸가지

I found out while writing this blog post 싸가지 comes from 강원도. It’s their way of pronouncing 싹수.
싸가지 means a person who is rude, mean, or has bad manners. It’s generally used when you want to insult someone by calling them a horrible person.

It’s used as a noun, or as part of a phrase.
1) 싸가지 (noun. Rude person)
2) 싸가지(가) 없다 (That person is very rude)

Here are some different ways to say being rude:
1) 싹수가 없다
2) 싹수가 노랗다
3) 버릇이 없다
4) 버르장머리가 없다
5) 무례하다

Martina’s Interjection!

Hey guise. Martina here. Remember when we asked you this:

fanfiction sharing

don't worry be happy

We wanted to share some of your favourite kpop fanfics for this post, which we thought would be appropriate given the topic. I am an avid fanfic reader myself, and I know that it can take a loooong time to scan, read, and flip through various fanfic communities in search of a favourite author or story. So, I thought I could enlist your help in finding some of the best kpop fanfics.

We got a lot of excited tweets and emails from fans of fanfic sharing their fav stories, as well as actual authors who wanted to share their stories with us. Oddly, though, there was an explosion of people that did not share in the excitement. For example:

So Angry Tweet

Already made my own fanfic

Public Fanfic tweet

the fanfic grumbles

fanfic problems

Yup. The kpop fanfic community freaked out, shut down, and imploded over one tweet. People panicked over their assumptions about what we would create, over a video of ours that didn’t actually exist, since we were never going to made a review of fan fiction. All this fear and anger coming out of misconstrued conclusions formed in the rumour mill and passed along Tumblr. LET THIS BE A LESSON ON THE DANGERS OF GOSSIP!

We even got emails and tweets from people demanding that we must first ask permission before we use any fan fiction, as if they knew what we were going to do to begin with. When we responded to these people and linked them to our tweets, they had various responses like, “Oh, I don’t have twitter so I didn’t see that” or “I don’t follow you on twitter” or “oh I read about your filming in a forum”. Whut? So you didn’t even see our tweets, but you form conclusions and thought the worst without even looking into it?

After that we realized there was clearly no point of putting up another tweet explaining our actual intentions since:
A) Angry people don’t seem to listen to what we say anyway. They just like being angry and wading through Outrage Porn
B) This video was coming out soon and would just explain it all away.

So if you’re one of the people who freaked out at us over the implosion of the Kpop Fanfic world, do some research first before you come to conclusions from secondhand accounts. And for those of you that locked up your once totally public fanfic accounts, be freeeeee knowing that we have zero interest in making a video reviewing your fanfic writing skills. We simply wanted to share your work with other readers. Now, everyone take a deep breath and put your stories back up online because you have fans that really want to read your stories. Or, more importantly, if online privacy is important to you, take more steps to ensure your privacy and the protection of your work, or – well – just don’t post stuff online if you’re afraid of online commentary.

Martina’s Interjection Over!

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  1. Saranghae_77

    o_O Why would they shut down accounts because of that? Lock the story, sure, but deactivating accounts is a bit extreme.

  2. Elmo

    I never knew Martina read fanfics ><

    #hunhanftw

  3. Mary Jo Theresse Tan

    And to add my opinion if you guys are scared of what your idols would think…

    Please theres no point because idols knows about fanfictions. Omg use logic please. K

  4. Mary Jo Theresse Tan

    Sweeties. What i do not understand is why the fuck are the authors over reacting too much? Can you please calm your tits guys. I am a smut fanfic writer myself but do you see me complaining? No.

    Im disappointed, i thought you authors actually have no maturity right now.

    The point is, they are just advertising your stories.

    Please guys, grow up.

    Deativating your accounts for something like that? Mate grow some brains before doing something not worth it.

    I do not really watch eat your kimchi much but their point is pretty valid to be fair, you guys are just acting like a typical netizens in korea. Lol

    Figting Martina and forgot the other guys name lol sozzz

  5. Let me see if I can provide some input into all of this.

    EYK released a tweet saying “Send us some of your favorite fanfic and we might use it in a video.” Ok it seems harmless enough, but what exactly were they planning to make a video about? No one had any idea. Also, according to past experiences we all assumed they’d use these fanfics without gaining approval of the author first because “If it’s out there in public, it’s no longer yours.” (Simon and Martina)

    EYK had an interview SHINee and SM clearly told them “No. We do not want you to put up the video of our artists.” even though they disregarded what was said and uploaded the video anyways. Ultimately it was up to SM whether or not EYK should have uploaded the video since SM and SHINee are protected under some laws. If EYK really wanted to interview and upload with no problems and no change of mind, there should have been a signed contract or agreement stating exactly what was going to happen with the interview and where it was going.

    This incident was probably the reason so many fanfic authors were worried about their work being used, which is also protected under copyright laws, which means the artists can decide where and who sees their work. If they didn’t want EYK to use their work, then they either locked it or took it down completely, which was the right thing to do and the artists who did want their work to be used, kept it up.

    Sure some people went overboard and sent hurtful messages when it wasn’t their place to speak up, yet all of the backlash and more hurtful comments in response to those were also unnecessary. EYK, after seeing how much of a problem this was becoming put up one more tweet seeming to clear up any misunderstandings saying “We will not use anyone’s fanfic without author’s permission. Fair?” Fair indeed, since it is their work to be decided on who uses it. However the “fair?” at the end of the tweet was unnecessary and honestly, rude. EYK now says “After that we realized there was clearly no point of putting up another tweet explaining our actual intentions…” Tweeting your actual intentions would have cleared up the entire situation and put a lot of people at ease.

    Based on quite a few KMM, there has been a lot of bashing and shaming and criticizing going on and while this has been going on for a long time, it’s gone from a playful opinion based matter to a more seemingly serious and hurtful matter. Fans do take this seriously since Kpop is something that they are devoted to and love and when someone straight up bashes the thing they like the most, it can be hurtful. Kpop, to a lot of people, is a sort solace and a hobby. EYK, imagine if someone made videos about YOUR videos and made rude comments, snarky remarks and silly skits based off of what you genuinely love to do. Sure, you might think it comical for a while, but eventually it gets dull and the humor aspect starts to wear off and it just becomes disrespectful. I think this is what the fix writers were afraid of… their work being made into a laughingstock.

    Now the money issue. I do not know what kind of money you make from being youtube partners, but this is it, I do know you make money off of the videos you upload based on the views you get. You make money from youtube, your website and your store. On top of those you ask for donations, which your blind followers will give to you. Basically because you wanted to stay in Korea. So you get all of this money which frankly must be a lot of money since you seem to be able to afford very frequent trips out of Korea, one location being Canada. Now I live in the US and I know that the flight from Korea to North America is not cheap at all and to be able to make frequent trips between different countries is saying something. Not the mention the huge apartment you guys have based on the videos I’ve seen and the huge studio in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Korea. We can only question how much money you make, what our donations really go to and if we should let you use our work for profit.

    FInally, but not least and definitely not last is the way EYK retorts to these commenters and the snarky, immature remarks that are said. Although the usernames are blurred from the comments above, the display name is not and on other media sites the names are no blurred at all. You might think this is fine, but imagine all of your fans who will stand by you no matter what. Those fans have access to that person’s account now and can rip the commenters to shreds. I personally know someone who mentioned EYK and they reblogged the comment without any respect of privacy for her, giving her an huge influx of anonymous hate from EYK fans. She took it all like a champ, but sending out these little fans to do the dirty work was immature. Subconsciously it’s what’s happening since EYK doesn’t seem to care whose privacy is protected and what their fans, or should I say minions, say to this person they have broadcasted to everyone. Apparently, what you all say are opinions and criticism coming from EYK is not as easily accepted from the outsiders giving their opinions and criticism towards EYK. Moral of THAT story is that EYK is always right and the ones who have different opinions are always wrong and should be publicly humiliated.

    And I won’t even touch on the other things I personally, along with a few others, see wrong with this business.

    • the thing with the money though- the concept is that every youtuber (and i guess we have to count EYK as youtubers now, as much as i cringe at that thought) makes money like an entertainer, a celebrity/idol/etc so to speak, so naturally the money they earn from ad revenue goes to increasing their entertainment output, like more YT videos, as well as personal money spendings.
      and it does all go into profit- thats the entire point of making money from YT videos in the first place. (movie directors dont produce movies just to have the money go back into another movie- they aim for million dollar box office hits so that profit happens)

    • Thank you for being a logical breath of fresh air!
      honestly you basically summed up everything in a more mature manner than how S&M have been posting/replying to the issues with this controversy. other things worth mentioning- privilege and racism, but thats a whole other topic.

    • Ho, I completely missed that “bonus round” you put up in your blog post. Way to passive aggressively say that a lot of people made you upset and not admitting that you had some fault in all of this.

  6. Gaby ガビ

    The persons who tweeted about not doing the fanfiction linking sounds like people that doesn’t really watch your videos :/ It’s so obvious that you guys would never do anything like trying to get money out of someone else’s work. You’re waaaaaaay to nice to ever do something like that!^^

    And Martina! I had no idea you read fanfiction!!! Do only ship het couples? :p No GTop? ;)
    If you’re not an avid fanfic reader all the names for different couples might be confusing, and some couples go by different names depending on who is ehhrr…on top (seme, the attacker etc).

    Ex. Gtop/Topnyong
    2seop (AJ/Kiseop)
    2min (Minho/Taemin)

  7. Some fanfic vocab:

    BroTP – Bro OTP (friendly, non-romantic pairing)
    AU – Alternate Universe (I’ve heard this more often than AR)
    drabble – short piece of fluff, usually just a paragraph or two
    genderswap – swapping the genders of established characters
    raceswap – changing the ethnicities/cultures of established characters

    prompt – idea for a story sent to a writer
    to beta – to proofread someone’s work before it’s posted

  8. S&M already explained, people on the other side also explained their side, so stop it and let’s all move on. Stop the hate already. The people who should be involved in this situation are S&M and the writers of fanfic. -end- And also Internet is a public place. People who hate or love your work = PUBLIC! :) (I love EYK! I respect fanfic writers. )

  9. Gracie グレイス

    Can you discuss dialects, specifically the Seoul dialect, and how it differs from other dialects. As a non-korean, I can’t tell the difference but in Kdramas, such as Reply 1997, they always point out the difference. ><

  10. I used 싹수없다 the other day and wowed my Korean friend :D Then she asked me where I’m learning such words, I showed her EYK and I guess you have one viewer more now ㅋㅋ

  11. Joolee Dee

    I think the best video to watch when one wants to understand shipping is made by danisnotonfire. He defines it so well. And on that note he does a video on internet slang with jacksgap too. It’d be fun to see Soozee and Leigh watch the video and react to it. And pick up some new slang from it.

  12. Kaitlin Beranek

    The most controversial DICK ever..

  13. Leigh should show Soozee weeaboo

  14. KATHyphenTUN

    And this video has brought me to the scary side of the internet… o.O

  15. Julie Elizabeth Ballaron
    Julie Elizabeth Ballaron

    I have two authors that I particularly love from fanfiction.net, one that writes mostly AUs using Kingdom Hearts characters, and other that writes from Harry Potter. kurosora1984 writes absolutely amazing fanfiction mostly pairing Roxas and Axel, and also Demxy and Zexion. Her stories can be long (like my absolute favorite novel-sized one, show me the money) or short and sweet, and range in plot from super fluffy and cute, to very hardcore, to focusing on the beginnings of a relationship. The other author, dracosoftie, I like because of one story in particular, Must Love Quidditch. This story takes place years after the end of the war, where Harry is an ex Aurour writing adventure novels under a fake name, and Draco is head of his father’s old company, past married with a young kid. The story starts with both boys joining a magical dating site, in order to fine someone who is interested in who they are and not their fame/money. You can see where this is going… xD I love them both because their writing is mature and well thought out, and the stories are extremely believable, and you fall in love with their versions of the characters instantly, and are hooked by the plot just as quick.

  16. Saehee Park

    I’m totally behind. and scared.
    I dont really read fanfiction. AT ALL so i’m not part of the community.
    but i dont understand how anyone can use somone else’s fanfic in their video in any type of bad way?
    what were those angry people thinking would happen in eyk’s video??? i dont UNDERSTAND

  17. Rachel Lynn
    Rachel Lynn

    Is it bad to say I was sort of looking forward to a video on fanfiction. I love to read fanfiction and had even contemplated doing a vid vlog of fanfictions I liked, but after seeing all this insanity, dang. I mean, shouldn’t authors be happy EYK is international, people from all over the world could hear about or fics and read them. I’ve been writing fanfiction for over eight years and written over 2 hundred fanfics on two different accounts from different genres and things. Fanfiction writers are authors who open themselves to criticism from their very readers in comments, but I see you all run and hide. It is clearly dumb.
    I’m sorry I’m ranting, but it makes me so upset that so many people can be like this.

  18. wanderingdreamer

    Not in the fanfic community but I am part of a few fandoms which use the exact same terms plus a few more! i tend to see AU, Alternate Universe, used more than AR (probably because when I see AR I think Augmented Reality, like Google Glass) and I’ve also seen OT3 or One True Threesome (which is usually a pretty doomed ship since I can think of like, one time in all the fiction I’ve read/seen where it actually happened, love you for that Star Driver!)

  19. wow we could do a two hour debate about this wow people are writing like 5 min speech worth of words…. calm down peeps the world is still strong…

  20. Randi Drew

    While fan-fiction is okay, I wonder how people can really say it’s plagiarism to barrow fic. Characters are inserted from shows and fiction that is already established without the consent of the original creator. I wonder how some original creators feel about fanfics of their work. (Worse case the fic is about real people, which seems a little awkward to me. Sorry to offend if I do.Not my intention.) Your story may be original and well constructed, but from copyrighted ideas. As for EYK, I understand that some of you guys are really miffed, but I honestly think it was a misunderstanding. This is nothing to spread hate about. I can understand the scariness of having something you worked hard on put out there, but maybe better communication next time?

  21. Erin Bywater

    SOOOO… anyone have good GTOP, Kaisoo, Drarry, Johnlock, or Destiel fics?

    …or is that not what is going on here….? XD

  22. Ninathepotatoequeen

    I seriously think this whole thing was just ridiculous. Like talk about first world problems “oh no my fanfic is down for a few days what everr should I do?! *throws self on floor*” people need to calm down, have a cup of tea ,sit outside and enjoy fresh air. If people spent as much time spreading positive vibes and love and fluffy good things as they do spreading hate who knows how the world would be. Simon and Martina are ,above anything else, humans and guess what?!? They have feelings *gasp* I know right!? Who would have thought!?! Just because they turn a camera on and make videos doesn’t mean they turn off their feelings. And maybe if people where more mature about things and messaged them privately and ask them details about the fanfic tweet maybe just MAYBE all this could have been avoided don’t y’all think? So next time how about we try and be patient for them to give further info or ask them what’s up privately. And seriously ain’t no one gonna die if they don’t have their fanfics.

  23. The first rule of Fanfiction is….you don’t talk about Fanfiction. It’s like Fight Club. I saw a lot of the freak out that happened, and to me, it was a little justified. It’s a fear of ridicule. There are some wonderful stories out there, but I only want to hear about them from people within the community. Fanfictions are not for public consumption.

  24. Nobuko Watanabe
    Nobuko Watanabe

    I read fanfiction. I write fanfiction. I also like Eat Your Kimchi.

    I think everyone is being immature and throwing a tissy-fit. And by everyone, I don’t mean just fanfiction writers and readers; I mean everyone.

    First of all, everyone is simply making assumptions. Assumptions that fanfiction people are always butthurt or on the attack. Assumptions that Nasties/EYK fans aren’t the sort of people into the fanfiction scene. Assumptions that Simon and Martina’s jokes and/or criticisms are meant negatively or even maliciously.

    You know what? Some people really do suck at writing. Some people have really good stories, but poor control or ability. Some people have amazing writing and poor plots. Some people don’t understand spelling or grammar or the logic of this world and how to relate it into fiction. I have to say, I’m very embarrassed by my own works and their poor quality. But if it’s publicly available on the internet, it’s publicly visible on the internet. And maybe “friends” or “fellow fans” share them which you’re okay with; but some of those fans have their own friends who may not be into fanfiction. They may see what they shared and dislike it. They make think it’s silly and have a laugh. They may actually really love it, and consequently get into the scene. Who knows? But public stuff can get around. If you have an issue with material potentially being available to the mass public, there are ways and sites to keep it private or simply limited. If you have it in a public place, you’re actually a very brave individual and ought to be commended. The internet is a very scary place at the best of times.

    But something I really would like to point out: for those whose greatest fear were getting violent, rude, malicious attacks or comments from “outsiders” or “nonfans”, what do you think these heavy responses from the fanfiction community were? When you talk about EYK, are judging them? Sharing your judgments within your own community who may or may not be within theirs? Are nonEYK followers seeing these responses and making fun of or else hating on Simon and Martina? Are you being harsh or hyper critical or violently hating on them? And for what? Their own personal creativity in trying to share what they love or find silly or occasionally ridiculous? Isn’t that what you’re doing? Isn’t that what we are all doing?

    Think of what you’re most afraid of, or what you believe to be hurtful or out of line for other communities to do to yours. And don’t do it to the other communities. Really take a moment to consider how what you’re doing could be construed by other communities, and if it’d be appropriate for them to do. Whether you’re a Kpop fan, a Nasty, a fanfiction reader/writer, or any other affiliation you proudly proclaim yourself apart of: Be respectful. Be reasonable. Be kind.

  25. immaperson

    The “public” is not some great community that excels at common courtesy and etiquette. Anything posted on the internet can be both used and misused by others. Learn how the internet works before you participate with posting something online.

  26. deceitful_neko

    I really
    didn’t want to make a comment. Whatever I say will be taken bad because both
    sides are annoyed and jumping at each other.

    I have posted
    some of my work online but I did that hesitantly. Yes, I write but that doesn’t
    mean I want a lot of people to read my stories. It is nice to see a lot of views
    and likes but I am not always confident that my story is good or my grammar is right.
    So seeing a lot of people talking about it is scary.

    Another
    thing I would like to talk about. Many might get offend by it but I think it applies
    to most of us. K-pop fandom is getting big but not all of us have a group of
    friend with which we can talk about it. K-pop is like a fantasy world to some
    of us. In it we can run away from the daily problems. I see things from the
    real point of view- idols and companies do everything for money, everything!
    Some of our dear idols are probably really dumb or mean in real life (I don’t
    want to offend anyone). But we idolize them. We live in our perfect world where
    they are perfect. Fanfictions are kind a big part of it. As much as we don’t
    want to see our idols getting criticized, mistaken for girls, called Chinese
    when they aren’t or getting offended in any kind. The same goes for our favorite
    stories. S&M didn’t say what they are going to use them for. This post
    could have meant anything. And let’s face it some of the Music Mondays are annoying
    for some of the fans. I know it must be hard to keep up with the k-pop and all
    the new groups and come up with funny things for the videos. But some of the Music
    Mondays contain a lot of hate. It wasn’t this bad before. People are probably going
    to get angry at this. But sometimes I don’t want to watch a Music Monday
    because I really like the video and am afraid they are going to be mean about
    it. Sure videos always have things that are not good enough thought of but you
    make it sound as if it is the idols’ fault. I know it is hard to keep up with
    new groups but making hate comments about them when you don’t know anything is
    not nice. I don’t like SNSD and that is it. I don’t watch their videos I don’t
    read about them. I don’t make comments about them on the internet. It is really
    easy the hate when you don’t know anything.

    That is my
    point of view. People who are stubborn and not realistic will ignore me. I don’t
    care I have said what I wanted. I don’t think it is healthy to get all fired up
    over something like that. Simple post with explanation what are you going to
    use the fanfics would have been nice and would have saved all that trouble of
    reading hate comments, answering them, making a point and so on. Look how much
    time you are wasting on this instead of watching k-pop videos. Go watch MBLAQ’s
    new video ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ

  27. MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE SHIPPING OF ALL TIME IS ZUTARA (ZUKO X KATARA FROM AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER) omg like you don’t even know how much i wanted them to be together hahaha thanks leigh for talking about shipping!! andddd I’m sooo confused as to why people were outraged… o.O

  28. anonymous116

    I can’t believe that people are condoning making decisions based on assumption, rumor, and hearsay, and then spreading said rumors without even confirming the situation, thus leading to generalized panic. Is it so hard to simply ask what the heck is going on? (And it’s not just with the EYK/fanfiction thing, but with anything people find on the internet. I can’t believe how many fanwars (and actual wars) have started over a false assumption or rumor. It’s called research!)

    Even assuming that the second tweet confirming author permission was never tweeted, there were SO MANY better options than panicking, taking down stories, and hating on EYK. Off the top of my head, for instance:
    1. To EYK: “Hey guys, I’m going to withold permission to use my stories until you tell me what is going on. What is the video for, are you reviewing, etc…”
    2. To EYK: “Hey guys, regardless of how many people send you links to my stories, I don’t give you permission to use any of my works/stories in any of your media sites (videos, blog posts, etc).”

    Problem solved, WITHOUT panicking, taking down stories, and causing a huge ruckus over nothing.

    Plus, if EYK decided to ignore these explicit instructions, then authors/fans would have a LEGITIMATE complaint, rather than getting all worked up about nothing.

  29. Stina Johansson

    I love you Martina and Simon! Ignore this and move on. People go crazy when their fandoms are concerned. I had a student that last month compared the struggles of Justin bieber to those of Nelson mandela.

  30. I didn’t even know this was happening lol

  31. Bibiana Berardi
    Bibiana Berardi

    *cough cough* . . .*whispers* I ship Leigh and Soo Zee . . . . *runs away*

  32. I think the whole event just goes to show that the Internet is still a growing and evolving thing. Truthfully, I’ve never heard of a big(ger) known company asking for fanfics before. The entire thing was a new and unexpected event, and as often people will do when something new and unprecedented happens, people imagine the worst. I think the lesson we can all take away from this is

    A) don’t jump to conclusions and
    B) when in doubt, over explain.

    Should the fanfic community have reacted so violently? No. Could EYK have been a little clearer? Yes.

    Hindsight is 20/20 they say. I feel bad for EYK the most though, because they obviously didn’t mean to come across as threatening, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Martina tweeted the first request, went away, and opened twitter the next day to a surprise of frothing wrath. People who aren’t fans of EYK seem to forget that they are just normal people who make mistakes like everyone else. I wish people would do a little more research from BOTH sides before jumping to conclusions.

  33. TheGreatPickle

    I’m sorry you received rude tweets and were victims of the rumor mill, but I am a bit disappointed in your response. There was a miscommunication that touched on a very touchy subject in an adjacent community. You wanted to share and celebrate fic, and that is fine.

    However, your channel is not a part of the fanfiction community. You’ve mentioned reading fic, but there are social norms in the fic community that you might not respect simply due to not being aware of them. Reposting and using sections of fic without permission are problems that the fic community faces fairly frequently, and that is an important issue to address. Unfortunately, your first tweet did not address that.

    Real person fic tends to be a much more sensitive subject than character fic does simply because it involves real people. Some people make sharp distinctions between the two, and, as a result, it needs to be treated with a touch more sensitivity.

    Finally, many fic writers prefer to keep their fic writing a secret because there are a lot of misunderstandings about fic in the general population. Especially after the rise of 50 Shades, there are many people who think fic is all porn, which is something every writer I know (even those who write slash) is well aware of.

    Fic is a touchy subject for many people, and this blog post did make it clear to me that you don’t understand the nuances of the community. I’m sorry people blew up at you, but the communication on your part has not helped and is not helping the issue.

    • TheGreatPickle

      On a lighter note, the implications that some people have made about the fic community not being part of the EYK community (“She doesn’t even go here!”) have made me want to go, “I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy.”

    • dru_irkins

      I think the fanfic community is suffering from the special snowflake syndrome. I think it is fair to say that don’t all fanmade community feel the same way? If it is criticism they fear then WHY post anything for the public to see or read. Every publication, bookwise or electronically are subject to every scrutiny and there is NO WAY you can escape from that. I think this senstivity feels have gone overboard at times when it doesn’t even calls for it. It’s a misunderstanding. You said it yourself EYK may not know anything about the fanfic community but does that give the fanfic community the right to be harsh or rude at EYK? No. I think it’s also true that fanfic writers and followers don’t even know EYK that much and about their Nasty followers as well. If you guys are gonna keep insisting it is EYK’s fault what has happened then so be it, but you can’t deny that they did their best to explain themselves. Each individual are responsible for how they react to certain issues and this tells me that the fanfic community should be very well hid itself from public because it cannot properly face a simple request or tweet of you will from which all this hate and rudeness rooted from.

      • TheGreatPickle

        I didn’t say it excused the rudeness. I used the word “miscommunication” for a reason; that is what happened, and their intent was not fully explained until this post went up. I also didn’t say it was their fault; I merely said that there were some failures of communication on their part that aggravated the issue. The request, unfortunately, is not as simple as it might first appear.

        There are different expectations in different internet communities and venues. While some writers may feel comfortable posting their fic for the audience on a fanfiction site, they might not feel comfortable doing so for a youtube audience. The audience is different. I’m sure there are things most EYK fans would feel comfortable posting on YouTube or blog post comments that they might not feel comfortable saying in another online venue.

        The EYK community and fanfic communities are not sharply divided. It is possible to be a part of both. I am. I don’t WANT there to be a sharp divide between the two. I would like to continue to enjoy both without feeling out of place or feeling like I have to choose between them. In light of that, I have endeavored to be civil in my comments because I believe civil discussion is important when dealing with issues that are obviously sensitive. Nothing excuses rudeness. On either side.

  34. Elsa Green

    Oh man. Some people can be cruelly judgemental. I don’t get it though; I’m not sure what you were going to do but shouldn’t fanfic writers be happy that you give them publicity? We all know how seriously you take intellectual property.
    That could have been great. I’m not a massive fanfic fan as they tend to freak me out from time to time when it’s real people but I’ve stumbled upon some pretty good ones (and written a few) and I’d love tonsee the authors’ work recognised.
    One the other hand, while these people clearly overreacted, I understand it’s a touchy subject.

  35. dru_irkins

    EYK, keep up the good work! Don’t conform to the craziness of fandoms!

  36. Christina Spaulding

    AHA! FELLOW DRAMIONE SHIPPER!!!!!! COME LET ME LINK YOU TO SOME GOOD D/M STUFF:
    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7810469/1/Summer-of-the-Dragon
    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7841890/1/Rediscovering-Old-Skills
    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8395253/1/Fa%C3%A7ade

    As for the fanfic terms, nobody’s really used lemon/lime/citrus in ages XP. that was a thing when i first was getting into fanfiction almost ten years ago. now if you want hard smut scenes you wanna look for the NC-17 rating.
    and along with OTPs a lot of people have OT3s now (Golden Trio, Jaelivin, StarkSpangledBanner, etc…)
    i wish i could give links to some of the really good kpop adventure but everything’s still on a blackout :/

  37. kawaii_candie
    kawaii_candie

    wow, you would think that people who write fanfic would be happy about the promotion/traffic a little publicity like this would get them, right? i just don’t understand why your haters seem to get their panties in a twist at every little opportunity. i for one would have been happy to hear you rec some stuff since i don’t read fanfic anymore since there is just too much crap to sift through to find the gems… but if i knew like “ooh, this is a fic Martina likes” then i would definitely check it out. SHUT UP YOU HATERS!! POO YOU!!! well anyways, these people should get a life, i guess… though it doesn’t even seem to be the writers that got upset… i don’t get it… well anyways… moving on!

  38. JinxieUnlucky

    I don’t see AR used all too often; usually fanfic writers say AU for “Alternate Universe”. Other than that, your terms are pretty accurate. As for all the citrus stuff, lemons are typically explicit sexual scenes, while limes tend to stop talking about the details somewhere around the foreplay. At least that’s what I’ve observed.

    • TheGreatPickle

      That’s what I’ve seen, too. It’s an older scale – most fics I see these days use movie-style rating systems. I’ve also rarely seen stuff labeled as “grapefruit,” which is apparently the realm that exists beyond lemon.

  39. Minjin Kim

    And Simon and Martina, please continue to speak your views without sugarcoating to suck up to butthurt fangirls. EYK hwaiting ^.^

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