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December 20, 2013

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Ok! Here’s a video that we didn’t make but one that we were a part of, so we thought we should share it!

We were on Canal+ in France for a program with Antoine de Caunes a long time ago. 7 Months ago, to be more specific, and I only know that because I found our instagram picture of us together:

We had a great time working with Antoine and the whole crew. The producer was awesome as well, and acted in the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie. I forget what role he was in. He told me after we had a bit to drink. And I’ve also never seen the movie. YES I’VE NEVER SEEN IT! Blasphemy, I know. I just never wanted to see it. I feel like it’s an accomplishment to not have seen it. Kind of like how I never did drugs before, people are like “holy hell! You’re from Toronto and never smoked weed?” This is similar. “You were a kid and never saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?!” Yes, yes that is true. What am I talking about again?

Filming with them was fun. They filmed a bunch of stuff with other Kpop bands as well, and were a bit confused about the representation of sexuality in the music videos and how disparate that image is from their controlled image outside of music video sets. Kpop artists can sing about love and act sexy on video, but they can’t ever be that way off camera. Canal + wanted to know why, so we gave our best answers as to why. Our opinion on the matter: having sexual relationships off camera lowers your marketability. Kpop idols fulfill people’s fantasies. Exo will sing about loving a girl but you won’t see her face, because if you do see a face that isn’t yours it’ll be more difficult for you to imagine yourself in that place. The illusion will be more difficult to sell. Girls Generation, in Genie, are leading a guy by the hand through different sexy rooms, but you only see his hand, which can very well be your hand. If you saw the guy’s face, the illusion would be broken, and fanatic fans – unable to role-play as easily as before – will not buy as much.

At least, that’s what I remember talking about in this video. I don’t know what they dubbed over us, though, because our French is so weak. They could very well be dubbing over us and saying “Hello my name is Simon and my head is fat!” and I wouldn’t know. If anyone here is French and can let me know, I’d greatly appreciate it, and maybe we could discuss it more in the comments if I can remember what we said :D

Anyhow, we come on at the 26:40 and we’re there, spliced in with other footage as well, for about 4 minutes or so, in case you feel like skipping to our part. I’ve heard the whole thing is really interesting, though! I’d love to see it with English subs. We didn’t upload this ourselves, either, so I don’t know what’s up with Part 2, if we’re in that or not. Supposedly we were listed in the credits there, too? I’m not sure. I remember reading someone say that, I think.

Yeah! For everyone else here who isn’t French and is utterly confused, umm, how about we talk about stuff we should do in Canada! We woke up at 3AM and were really hungry, so now we’re publishing this at, like 7AM here in Canadia time. Weird! We’re gonna go do some Christmas shopping today as well. Question: where are all the people? Why is it so empty around here?

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  1. Not all of us no. Canada is a very large country and depending on where you are the concentration of speakers of any given language you find will also vary. Near the Ontario and Quebec border for instance very many are bilingual and as you get deeper into Quebec you’ll actually find more French speakers than English. I’m just generalizing though; it can even vary from one community to the next.

    3 years ago
    • I’ve found that in terms of Montreal and a great part of Quebec, from my experiences at least, most people tend to be bilingual, even if their native tongue is French. I think it’s because there is just so much media out there in English that accessability to that is really important, and if you could have that, you would? Personally I’m from Ottawa, which is right next to Quebec, so I speak English and French, but I know many people in Ottawa who are not bilingual.

      As a whole Canada is supposed to be a bilingual COUNTRY, but that doesn’t mean its citizens are all bilingual. What that means is that by law all government things (census forms, voting stuff, and it trickles down) must be in both official languages. So if you call the government offices you should be able to speak to someone in the official language of your choice. Because not everyone working in government buildings is actually bilingual, however, that means sometimes they’ll have to transfer your call to someone who is. (Both my parents work for the government in very different aspects and only one is moderately bilingual.)

      3 years ago
    • No worries :) and FEZ is awesome!

      3 years ago
  2. Thank you so much for posting this! Montrealer here and just love Antoine De Caunes. The show is informative, subjective and lighthearted. They also did a great job with the dub (for the English bits at least, can’t speak a word of Korean unfortunately). You guys are very frank and that’s definitely something that keeps me coming back <3

    3 years ago
  3. Thank you for sharing!

    <3<3<3<3<3<3

    3 years ago
  4. Hello,

    I am the owner of the youtube channel which hosts the video, I am looking for help to made english subtitles !
    By the way, you can have a look on my french blog (sorry no translation) about korea : http://shamann.fr/dafuq-korea/

    3 years ago
  5. OMG how did I not know about this? I am French, and I am so proud that they did this documentary. I haven’t seen it all for now but it looks both objective and fun. I really like what they said about the gay community. When Hong Sun Cheol asked “voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir ?” Antoine answered “I can’t tonight, I have a lot of work to do.” Lol.

    Here’s what they said about you guys:
    26:57 “This dynamic duo are Simon and Martina Stawski, the brains behind the very popular website Eat your Kimichi and its Youtube channel.”
    27:13 “With their acute humour and their sharp comments, these Canadians who have been living in Seoul for 6 years are now a Kpop reference for millions of followers around the world.”

    3 years ago
  6. Can’t watch this now, but yay something I’ll be able to understand! No subtitles for me, woohoo!

    I’m like the slowest reader in the world, so subtitles suck for me (In kpop interviews I have to constantly stop the videos). So I’m looking forward to this.

    3 years ago
  7. What is the story you were talking about with the bald headed girl?? Don’t remember watching an episode/video you guys did on that story..

    3 years ago
  8. Can anyone tell me why is there an interception for AKB48? I’m not too familiar with that incident so I want to know how it relates to what S&M were saying :O
    Thanks!!!

    3 years ago
    • They’re talking about the kind of strange, dysfunctional relationship between Asiatic idols and their fans. :3

      Martina: There is a Japanese group called AKB47 and one of the singers, Minami, entered into a secret relationship with a boy. The girls were forbidden from having boyfriends, and a photo was taken of Minami leaving the his house. She was so shattered by the incident that she shaved her head and posted a video on Youtube where we see her in tears.
      Minami: I should/could never separate from everyone who loves me.

      Simon: She wasn’t crying because she had had a lover; she was crying because she had ruined the dreams of all her fans.

      Martina: She had betrayed their trust.

      Move on to the programme looking at Boyfriend and asking them if they have girlfriends. The band says no, but then one of them says, “I do!” surprising the others. “All my female fans are my girlfriends,” he confides.

      3 years ago
  9. Me being all “YAY!!! I wanna watch… Hope it has English subs” Then I realize it doesn’t and since I don’t understand a word of French I just go to the corner and cry rivers.

    3 years ago
  10. I’d be happy to translate for everyone who isn’t a French speaker, but who do I send it to?

    3 years ago
    • If you send it to us, we can send it to the YouTube channel owner, and then they can upload it to the video, I think!

      3 years ago
      • I’ve finished translating Part 1 and I’ve sent it to you via email.

        3 years ago
      • Great! Will do. As a French Canadian, some of the super Frenchy slang might escape me, but I’ll try my best!

        3 years ago
        • If you have a problem or want some help you an contact me… I’m Belgian so french is my first langage as well. And i have no problem with ‘super frenchy slang’… given I speak it

          3 years ago
  11. I was just going to skip to your part, but the entire documentary is hilarious. You can turn closed captioning on in the video and then turn on the translator to English. I could understand 50% of the dialogue this way.

    3 years ago
  12. I’m French Canadian and the dubbing seems pretty accurate. I can’t really hear every word Simon and Martina are saying in English, but everything sounds logical and right. They did a great dubbing job! ^^

    3 years ago
  13. “Kpop idols fulfill people’s fantasies. Exo will sing about loving a girl
    but you won’t see her face, because if you do see a face that isn’t
    yours it’ll be more difficult for you to imagine yourself in that place.
    The illusion will be more difficult to sell.”

    I hate to admit it, mainly because I’m highly guilty of it, but this is probably the single most cuttingly accurate description of the K-Pop industry I’ve heard. I might cut back on my fanaticism now that I can see it as this, and it’s actually a little sinister/disturbing. I really like you guys because you actually give honest and REASONED opinions on K-Pop and in your reviews, and what with the seas of fanatically biased comments on YouTube we have to swim through that is a really good thing. You point out things wrong or weird about a video which I or a fan might notice when watching for the first time but kind of shut out or get used to far too quickly. Plus, I’ve never heard such balanced arguments and well-reasoned views (in TL;DRs and stuff)! Anyway, sorry about the rant, would like to see it with subs if possible! <3

    Merry Christmas!! :D

    3 years ago
    • Thank you! I think we alienate some kpop fans at times because we don’t watch Kpop for the same reasons they do. While we’re more interested in the music some people are more interested in the artists, and our stance oftentimes comes at loggerheads.

      3 years ago
      • Yep, I personally wasn’t interested in K-Pop or Korean idols until I started watching Korean variety shows, wherein I laughed more than I had for a long time, and the music kind of came with it as BGM. This was a couple of years after being into J-Rock and despite liking 2NE1’s songs, couldn’t bring myself to like them and likewise Bigbang – liked their style but hated the music (AT THE TIME, NOW I’M A HUGE FAN). Now I’m glad that I can appreciate the music, because the more things you like, the better, right?

        Anyway, yeah, personally few K-Pop artists have managed to enthral me based on music alone, I often find that I have to see them on shows and like their personalities before the music starts ingraining itself in my head. I admit that I’ve thought when watching your reviews “HOW CAN YOU NOT BE IN LOVE WITH THEM?!” but I guess you’ve managed to avoid the rose-tinted glasses that come with discovering “idols” (maybe due to being in a slightly earlier generation..? Or having already found your other halves?). Which BTW I think is the totally wrong name to be aiming for as an artist, it must be something spearheaded by companies, because are they really OK with people viewing them as idols, or gods basically, and being worshipped? Do they really know what ‘idol’ means?! (Putting aside whether or not it means the same thing in Korean) I think the Korean music industry needs to spread its wings a bit and be less of a system – you can’t really enclose art in a system. People who want to be singers or artists shouldn’t have to be limited to these companies where a lot of style is imposed and creative ideas handed to you… I know K-Indie and stuff exists but I wish pop in Korea was bit more…real? Fun (for artists)? Experimental? Meh, dunno, I’m just typing as I think right now.

        Er, sorry about the rant again (maybe I should start a blog…?). Thanks for replying, I now feel appreciated, and also a little star-struck :D

        3 years ago
  14. Simon your head’s not fat! It’s big boned!

    I really like the explanation you gave as to the difference between the MV/stage world of Kpop and the idols reality. Look what happens every time the illusion is broken and an idol admits to being in a relationship. Not all fans are that insanely dellusional but lots of them are. Plus it really does break any illusion anyone could have once a face is placed where you are imagining yours.

    3 years ago
  15. Yay, my french has a purpose in life!
    The dubs basically say exactly what Simon and Martina said during their interviews. It’s actually super accurate and really funny.

    3 years ago
  16. French tv doesn’t give much interest to Korea so I am happy that an emission like this one exists. I think it will help to spread interest for Korea in France. I hope my country will take a look to that country I love so much. I am happy too to see guys in it :) French nasty

    3 years ago
  17. oh that’s so cool you got to meet antoine de caunes :D (my mom likes to watch french tv so i saw him on there a couple of times :)
    but it’s actually funny how i was disappointed that there are no english subs for about one minute until i remembered that i’m actually capable to understand and speak french D: I guess i just got used to not understanding anything without subs (korea/japan what have you done)
    i would have liked to sub this for you but reading the previous posts, i guess some people are already in the process of doing so ^-^

    3 years ago
  18. He made fun of everything, but it was cool! Martina… your dub is hilarious! After they put make up on him, he said he looked more like a teen Hitler than a flower boy. So true!!

    3 years ago
  19. I understand very little French but I watched boths parts and this is the funniest documentary I’ve ever seen. If anybody is offended by this then they don’t have a sense of humour because the guys makes more fun of himself than anything else. It’s hilarious and sweet how he participates and throws himself into everything. I wish he’d do one about Germany or the UK.

    3 years ago
  20. Thank you for the video!
    I was so happy to see you in a French program!
    Even if I wasn’t able to hear everything, I think they translated what you said quite well.

    3 years ago
  21. anybody can explain what the whole japanese girl group member was all about?? the one in short hair crying??

    3 years ago
    • how horrible and cruel is it to make someone feel like they have to humiliate themselves like this just because they are in a relationship :((((( why do I help sustain an industry that lives off those unhealthy attitudes and fantasies :(

      3 years ago
      • I think the worst part is that her company didn’t even forgive her (idk about her fans) and kicked her of the group and demoted her in trainee status to be “warning example”. She lost everything she had just because she had boyfriend, that’s crazy : (

        3 years ago
  22. I’m French and I LOVE ANTOINE DE CAUNES!

    He is a great comedian and the MC of the Cesars (=French Oscars) and of the tv show “Le Grand Journal”. He is well know for his FRENCH HUMOR. I know it may be confusing for some people. He uses humour to talk about serious or difficult subject without having a burdensome atmosphere. He keep us entertained so that we listen to what he has to say. I think it’s brilliant.

    And guys, don’t worry about the dubbing because they used the exact same words as you did. The translation is good and we can understand your point just like you wrote it on your post up here.

    Love you guys! I was so glad to see you on french tv.

    3 years ago
    • I agree, it often seems self-deprecating. I actually see it as more slapstick than any other humour I’ve found, while British humour is generally very low-key compared to what I’m used to.

      3 years ago
    • Well French humour is sometimes raw/crude and cynical. And we also know how to laugh at ourselves.
      Humour is a really hard thing to explain because it’s really cultural. For instance, I really don’t get British Humour.

      3 years ago
  23. For those who want part 2 is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uadIXH4RHSI

    3 years ago
    • Oh my god, that poor woman who became obsessed with botox… ;_; That’s such a sad story… I feel like body dysmorphic disorder is probably well on the rise because we have access to “corrective surgery,” and it’s stories like hers that really remind you of what you have. ;_;

      3 years ago
  24. This was actually a really entertaining and quirky view of Korea… a guy who makes a living impersonating KimJongIl, the absolutely bonkers presidential candidate (he said his motto is “just say my name, and you will get stronger/richer/etc.” He also said that he came from heaven to save the earth and will one day go back…. er waaah??), and the sex idol girl who goes around with a cat called Coco Chanel on her shoulder. I’m watching Part 2 on youtube right now… great stuff!! :D Thanks for sharing it!

    3 years ago
  25. Thanks so much for sharing this guise! Since the programme aired on a private channel (one you have to pat monthly for), I couldn’t watch it even though I live in France. Now I know what I’ll be doing this afternoon^^
    Have a fun and wonderful Christmas with your families!

    3 years ago
  26. I thought I recognised him. He was the host of an adult entertainment programme “Eurotrash” in the 90s. Nothing like a butt load of naked people on tv hahaha. Legend!

    3 years ago
  27. That’s very, very French humor! I’m sure that when it gets subbed there will be people saying he’s hating or making fun or being disrespectuful… It’s always like that. But he’s actually appreciative and hilarious… in a French way!

    3 years ago
    • Well I’m french and I don’t like Antoine de Caunes… He annoys me and I find him not funny at all! Well, at least on his tv show. I haven’t watched this documentary yet, he might be different (hopefully!)

      3 years ago
  28. Antoines de Caunes is pretty famous in France, and a really funny guy too.
    If you watch the rest of the documentary you’ll see he just can’t stop himself from doing silly things while interviewing people.
    Like when he try to look like an average student in the K-Pop school…

    3 years ago
  29. Aaaahhh i can sub it today, after lunchtime (Toronto time you goofs! ). Welcome back to Canada! If I don’t get to see you here, maybe in Feb, when I move to Seoul! I bake awesome goodies, if that is enough of a bribe ahahhah

    3 years ago
  30. martina’s dubbed voice sounds hilarious! martina you should create a new character that speaks like that LOL

    3 years ago
  31. I’m so happy you guys got to say something about korea, canal + is the ONLY channel in France that talks about kpop without mocking the whole industry, just reporting its incoherences and problems as well as showing the good sides, and with humour. They even invited Girls Generation to sing live once! Antoine de Caunes is a wonderful man and i’m glad you’ve met him ^^ Plus I don’t know if you understood that part but he asked 4minutes and Boyfriend if they had someone in their lives despite the companies forbidding it oops ;)
    He’s very respectful and even though the french sub was too loud to hear your own voices i guess canal+ translated well. At one point it says “they need groupies” while i think Simon says “they need a boyfriend/girlfriend, they need that kind of release” but other than that i don’t see any mistake. After that Antoine de Cauned says “they know the relationship between the idols and their fan is totally dyfunctional” and you talk about AKB48

    I hope english speakers will be able to watch it soon :) Anyway, congratulation to you two for having been on the most popular and interesting and funny french channel !

    3 years ago
    • I am the owner of the youtube channel which hosts the video, I am looking for help to made english subtitles !
      Donc je cherche des gens qui parlent français et anglais pour qu’on se partage le boulot :)

      3 years ago
      • Il est un peu tard, mais si jamais vous cherchez toujours des gens, j’étudie en traduction donc ça me ferait plaisir de vous aider.

        3 years ago
      • I agree to do a part as well, you can reply me here!

        3 years ago
    • I just wished I could watch Canal + >.<

      3 years ago
    • Yeah! I remember talking about groupies, now that you speak of it! Do Kpop idols have groupies? Come come now, commenters: confess if you’ve been a groupie. Though, I’m not sure if I can believe what people will say here. I’m sure we’ll get 20 comments like “O YEH RLY I SLEPT WITH TOP!”

      3 years ago
  32. Le French! /splurts random words with a bad french accent/

    3 years ago
  33. 7am here too.. at least you guys have BEEN to bed -.- I have to stay up to finish some last minute schoolwork (I do it online.. hence the being up all night working on it) before Christmas break.. No sleep for me till after lunchtime /pries eyes open with toothpicks/

    3 years ago
  34. Don’t worry Simon! The dubbing was accurate and they didn’t make you say “Hello, my head is fat..” ! ^v^

    3 years ago
  35. I hope you find subs for this soon because the beginning of this show is hilarious! My french is kinda iffy… I studied abroad in France during college so I can understand most of it. He went and talked to a South Korean Kim Jong Il impersonator and went “undercover” in a korean high school for the arts. Good stuff!

    3 years ago
  36. It’s during moments like these that I’m really happy to speak French ^^

    3 years ago
    • I’m French Canadian and I also enjoyed watching the show, it was very entertaining. ^_^

      3 years ago
    • Me too! The show is actually really great too! I really like how they kept things interesting without actually mocking anything like other shows tend to do. They all seemed fairly genuine interested and not mocking or derisive in any way. Great job Canal+!

      3 years ago
  37. Hey french girl here :D They basically said that your youtube channel and website are very popular and that you have a sharp humour and are very knowledgeable in kpop. But yeah, the french voices are soooo weird XD

    3 years ago
  38. Woah. I hope someone will be nice and sub it soon, I’d love to watch it and make sense of what they are saying. In Sweden they aired a reportage about K-pop and the industry but it was pretty flat and not very interesting to watch. Anyway, I really want to watch it but I don’t know any French except “Omelette du Fromage~”.

    3 years ago
  39. I saw it on TV! Don’t worry, the sub is alright, it’s just weird to hear you with thoses french voices, haha. ^^

    3 years ago
  40. “where are all the people? Why is it so empty around here?” Umm…it’s Canada? Being underpopulated something Canada is known for, like maple syrup and nice people.

    3 years ago
    • I imagine that the upcoming holiday has made some people change their schedules. You know like students on vacation sleeping late and people having family or friends staying over etc….

      3 years ago
    • It’s so shocking, though, the contrast between ultra-bustling Seoul and kinda empty Etobicoke. There’s so much land here…just not a lot of people!

      3 years ago
      • True enough. But if you go to Sherway or Yorkdale or Square One or even downtown, you’ll probably see the bulk of people traffic. Drive safely out there though, the roads are still slippery in some areas.

        3 years ago