TLDR – Being a Foreigner in Korea

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Ok, so this is a question that was really difficult for us to answer. We were asked this week if foreigners are treated any differently here in Korea, to which we definitely say yes. As for how differently we’re treated, that really depends on the foreigner you’re talking to.

We personally happen to have good experiences in Korea. Everyone is really nice to us. Nobody’s been terribly rude, and we haven’t experienced any outright racism. People greet us with smiling faces, give us great service everywhere we go, and overall give us a fantastic experience of the country, one that we hopefully convey in our videos and website. However, we do make it a point to try and speak Korean as much as we can, to compliment the meal (in Korean) when we visit new restaurants we like, and make an overall effort to be “Korean”.

But the way we’ve been treated isn’t the same as how others have been treated. Some people do have terrible stories of experiences of racism and discrimination. Since we have never experienced this directly, and have only heard it from a friend of a friend, or via a comment on a blog, we can only comment on people’s anecdotes and the patterns that we’ve noticed.

Without meaning to sound arrogant, we believe that our experience in Korea is great not just because of our personalities, but also because of how we look. No, we’re not supermodels, but we fit a very nice archetype of what a “foreigner” should look like according to what Korea has been taught. Martina is a blonde haired and blue eyed girl. Simon is a tall guy. We’re both white. We’re not noticeably overweight. We’re married and smiley. We are, more or less, what Korea wants in English teachers.

A lot of our friends can’t say the same thing. We have good friends, good teachers who are good people, who have been denied teaching jobs because they’re too Asian looking, too overweight, too not-white. We have good friends here who are black who have had some Korean people walk up to them and try to touch their hair or skin. Not all the time, mind you, but occasionally. We’ve have overweight friends who have been told outright by co-workers that they’re fat, too fat, that they should go on a diet (and they intend it to be a matter-of-fact “I’m helping you” kind of way).

But, again, we can’t comment on this accurately, or make a video about it, because it’s not our experience. We’re lucky here, we know, and our experiences here have been fantastic. As foreigners, we aren’t treated poorly here at all.

There is one thing, though, that makes us cringe occasionally, and that’s being pointed out as foreigners. Many, many times, when we’re walking outside, we’ll hear people (especially kids) say in Korea say “Oh! Weigookin!” which you might have seen from our Korean Like a Pro videos. We weren’t making something up there. We’re often pointed at and called foreigners. It’s not insulting, but it’s kindof saddening at times. Yes, we know that we’re not Korean, but being reminded so often that we’re outsiders who are not part of your culture, is quite sad. We think this must be especially upsetting for those “foreigners” that have settled in Korea with a Korean husband or wife and are now, for the most part, Korean. It feels at times like we’ll always just be floating on the surface, no matter how long we stay here, no matter how many videos we make about how much we love this place. We’ll always just be outsiders looking in, and we’ll always be reminded of this fact.

We know that being called a foreigner in public isn’t necessarily malicious. It’s a genuine expression of shock. After all, a lot of Korean people do have dark hair and eyes, and so when they see Martina’s blue eyes and blonde hair, it’s surprising, not something they’re used to. When they see Simon in his giant form (there aren’t many Korean people as tall as Simon) and his big red mohawk, it’s not surprising to us that they’re surprised by us, and naturally they express their surprise. This surprise is amplified in small towns who perhaps have never met someone from another country.

We think it just feels especially weird for us because we’re from Toronto, which is exceptionally multicultural. Never in Toronto did we look at someone and call them a foreigner. The thought never crossed our minds. Everyone in Toronto is just from Toronto. No one’s an outsider even though we all look different and are perhaps from different countries before we came to Canada.

The only sense of outright racism that we sensed was from the senior citizens, who occasionally, barely ever really, might give us stink face and mumble something about foreigners while looking at us. Or maybe it’s not stink face: maybe that’s just their faces from being so old. But, you know, we don’t really hold it against old people for being racist in Korea. Old people seem to be racist everywhere. Hands up if you got a racist grandma or grandpa! Don’t lie! You know you’ve cringed and/or almost got beat up from your grandparents outrightly insensitive comment made in public! Guys? Anyone? No?…oh…

Anyhow, overall, we love it here in Korea. TL;DR – We have had a fantastic, fantastic experience, as have many of our friends. Are foreigners treated differently here? Yes, but not so terribly that it would in any way negate our experience.

  • Anonymous

    I think you don’t have to worry too much about it. There always will be people who don’t embrace the differeces everywhere. but never mind and i am sure you will be fine. Koreans have a tendency to get scared when it comes to speaking English. but in generall most people are quite friendly i would say. If you are gonna study at school (uni?) it should be way easier to hang out with other students. !! Good luck with your study and hope you have great experience there!! :) :)

  • Sterling Wiedemann

    I gotta tell you guys I love your show! Keep going!

  • http://www.konnectmagazine.com Moses Yoon – bulgogi monster

    Koreans, in general, are quite cordial to the “white man” – perhaps partly because the “white man” knows English, which is a hot “commodity” in South Korea. However, I’ve heard of instances of Koreans not being too cordial to black or mixed Americans. But times are changing.

    You guys probably heard of the Hines Ward story, right? He’s the wide receiver from the Pittsburgh Steelers football team. It was really neat to see breakthrough in prejudices against other races and mixed races from the Korean point of view.

    One thing I know is that being a foreigner, from what I hear, is not too bad. South Koreans have changed in their mentality to accept other cultures and races, even mixed races.

    Doesn’t hurt that thousands of American GIs are still stationed up there in the border.

    We love our foreigners! Why am I talking like I’m full blown Korean? I am, but I’m more Americanized. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/임석건/100001297734753 임석건

    아 님들 좀 욱긴듯 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 잼나요 더 올려주셈.

  • 지원 송

     im a college student and got 3000 words to go on for the paper but didnt even start writing it cuz ive been watching this all day it’s so funny

    • http://twitter.com/DiDi556 DiDi

      Sorry, but this is quite stupid. 

  • Karlie Leung

    I visited my Caucasian friend in Seoul this past spring. We were at Insa-dong, which was a really touristy area, and got yelled at by a random old lady for speaking English. My friend told me that it happened to her a couple times before. I just think it was ridiculous that we got yelled at at a place full of tourists and foreigners while the Koreans just watched and walked away.

  • Ezi E

    I had the same experience in Japan, I’d get the “can I touch your [fill in the blank]?” a lot, especially being the only black girl with braids in my head there. Sometimes it got annoying and upsetting being stared at but yeah, it wasn’t every day people were just gawking and it wasn’t everyone and it really was good to keep in mind their lack of contact with someone like me. I neve really took it as racism because we were all just foreigners. Now living in the heart of Texas…there’s a den of political incorrectness and racist grannies. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ROK35XCVBXKUY6Y5CEYFEZHN3Y 모니카

    great video!:D how many years or months it takes to learn korean??is it very difficult?

  • Antonia McClean

    Nice Video :) I’m a European NZlander and I recently came back from a short visit to Seoul,  I totally had a moment when  waiting for a friend at the top of a pretty empty subway exit.  This old guy walked past me like super close and totally glared at me strongly in the eyes. I just think he really wanted to see my blue eyes lol

  • http://twitter.com/maarkie22 mark snippe

    Hello my name is Mark Snippe from Holland and i want to now more about dating in korea and is it easy to date a korean woman as a foreigner  ?? do korean women find foreigners attractive ?? maybe you can make  a segment about this ? i am a long man and i have blond hair do the like this in Korea ? thank you i love your site :)  

  • Luciana Simões Mania

    I never got beaten up because of a comment made by my grandma, but that’s because I was a kid back then. She died long ago, but I still remember that she was really racist. My mother is too. So I really know what you mean!

  • abrielle krumrie

    I’ve seriously considered teaching in Asia when I finish college for the last 5 years, but now I’m hesitating because I’ve heard so many terrible things about what happens to overweight people there/the way they’re treated.  I’m an overweight 22 year old woman – would they reject me outright/treat me like crap?

  • Anonymous

    hello there i wonder such i´m a overweith person is that a bad point of beuty to korean guys?

  • Anonymous

    hello guys i wonder if you know about what korean boys like in foringers girls, i wonder this because im a overweight person..im not realy english as you noticed  do you understood what i tried to say? thanks anyway

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Frederick/826139710 Emma Frederick

    Yeah, my Grandma was racist as heck. She literally wouldn’t let my mom attend her Senior prom because she was going with a black guy. This was the seventies. My mom only got to go when she brought a white guy home for Grannie to approve of (who was actually gay, but Grannie didn’t need to know that ;-D). She also frequently referred to any and all Asians as “Japs”.

    Oh, Racist Grandma. You’d have a heart attack if you knew I was going to South Korea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anngelica-Aguilar/100000185514336 Anngelica Aguilar

    I’ve wanted to be a teacher in Korea too, but now I’m kinda scared. I’m not over weight, I’m thin but I’m of Mexican decent and I have pretty dark skin. Does this mean I won’t get a job as easily as say a white person? :/

  • Allison Williams

    I’m currently living in Taiwan, and like you guys, I’ve had pretty much the same experiences-although I’ve never been outright pointed at and called “foreigner” (at least I haven’t caught anyone doing that), I have gotten stares and looks-mainly because I am a young woman, and most foreigners in Taiwan are older men. My Taiwanese friends and I have also joked about how I also don’t look like the stereotypical foreigner-I DO have blue eyes, but I’m a brunette with copper highlights (so yes, the “orange” hair is another stare point-I have caught Taiwanese people staring at my hair), I am extremely pale (I’m a vampire, like Martina),plus I’m 5’1”, so I’m around average Asian girl height-in fact most of my Taiwanese female friends are taller than me. So most of the reactions I get are ones of surprise, mainly from my height, since foreigners-even the girls-are supposed to be “giants”.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JJFS3AHYDYFQPYGYF6OFVZVVAQ Joanna

    Well I better head to the gym big time before I move to Korea this year, I am overweight, but this should motivate me to start shedding some pounds before I constantly hear how fat I am.  I am sure students will point this fact out on a regular basis.

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