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How Popular is Kpop in Korea?

January 9, 2013

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Legitimately good question here: a lot of people associate Korea with Kpop, and are interested in Korea because of Kpop. But how popular is Kpop in Korea itself, from the general public’s perspective?

So, let’s start off by saying that Kpop is popular to Kpop fans…that might sound pretty obvious, but the die hard dedicated fans are SO SUPER DUPER dedicated that it makes the whole of Korea seem like it is filled with dedicated fans. You can hear the shouting in the audience as they sing along with the song with their own special fan song during the pauses in the song (seriously: who even plans something like that? That’s dedicated hard work), and you can see the big lineups and soldout crowds for concerts. But that’s among the fan community. How prevalent, though, is Kpop to the general, non Kpop-Crazed crowd.

After all, not everyone is a screaming fangirl. Not sure if you noticed, but those screaming fangirls are mostly highschool and elementary school students, not really college kids, or working men, or mothers of three, or grandmothers and grandfathers. To the uninitiated, general public in Korea, Kpop is something that they’re more than likely aware of and very exposed to, but it’s not something that’s all too prevalent in their lives. A lot of people that we speak to our age aren’t really that into Kpop, and we’re talking about both foreigners and Koreans. They can’t name all of the members of Girls’ Generation; they haven’t seen B.A.P’s latest video; they don’t have a bunch of 2NE1 merch in their apartments.

They’ve HEARD a lot of Kpop, though, that’s for sure, but it’s more than likely unwillingly. Like we mentioned in the video, if you’re walking down a busy public area where there are lots of shops, you will undoubtedly hear buttloads of Kpop songs everywhere. Stores have speakers pointing outwards to the public, and you will hear lots of music when you’re walking. Question to those of you familiar with Korean law: aren’t there any noise pollution laws or anything? We’re not just talking about the music being played outside of stores: we’re also talking about those godawful election trucks (WHICH THANK GOD ARE DONE WITH NOW THAT ELECTIONS ARE OVER!). Anyhow, the point of this isn’t to complain about the noise. We’re just saying that you hear a lot of Kpop and definitely experience a lot of it in your lives, even if you’re not particularly a fan of it yourself.

Incoming Martina rant!
A mini-rant about foreigners living in Korea who absolutely loathe kpop: we often hear the complaint that Kpop is all that they hear blasting everywhere they go and that Korea doesn’t make “real” or “good” music, in which I would say, if kpop is not your thing, maybe you should try checking out the Korean indie scene in Hongdae before you brand Korea as only producing Kpop music. Or…check out our Sunday K-Indie segments *glitter screen with a rainbow*. Whenever we check out a local club to see new indie bands, we see a maximum of eight foreigners in the crowd (and that’s a really really good night). Most kpop hating foreigners don’t seem to be expanding their Korean music horizon, they’re just hating on the kpop genre and making no effort to step outside their personal music comfort bubble. This is obviously not all foreigners in Korea, thank goodness, but there just seems to be a type of anger towards kpop. If you don’t like kpop, just be like, “yeah, it doesn’t really do it for me” but people rant and foam at the mouth about how much they hate it. Did JYP sneak into your house at night, tea bag you, and post the pictures to facebook? Did 2NE1 take a huge dump in your coffee? Did Big Bang personally hack into your ipod and add their music? Did Super Junior because I naughty naughty with your mother? SRSLY. What’s with all the anger people! It’s MUSIC! Just MUSIC! People even leave sassy remarks complaining about how we ONLY make videos about their most hated thing in the world, Kpop. Really? Out of five videos a week, THREE are NOTHING to do with Kpop! But nope, Kpop is the devil.

Martina Rant Out

The point I’m getting at, is that if a Korean person went to Toronto to live for a year and they complained that Canadian music consists only of Justin Beiber, Macklemore, Maroon5, Chris Brown, and Taylor Swift…I’d be like, “but did you check out the bands playing on Queen Street?” Yes, ladies and gentleman, the most popular songs will be blasted in the mall or at major retail chains, while the smaller indie shops will play whatever music they damn right feel like. It’s the same for small indie chains in Korea. That’s where we hear indie music, both Korean and international! A couple days ago we were eating chicken at a funky little shop in Hongdae and we heard Sigur Rós, Radiohead, Groove Armada being blasted! Blew our minds.

That was followed up by a coffee shop with a really adorable Korean girl working behind the counter blasting “Guess who’s back in the m*therf*ckin house with a fat d*ck for your m*therf*ckin mouth”. Perhaps she personally loves Snoop Dogg’s “Ain’t No Fun” but she seemed quite taken aback by Simon thrusting around the coffee shop singing along happily. Yes, he knows all the words to that song. Oooooh my.

So, yeah! I hope that kinda answers the question. We can’t really say what’s the actual percentage of people in Korea that like Kpop. All we can say is that we hear Kpop everywhere as do most everyone else who goes outside of their own homes, but we definitely barely know anyone who’s an actual fan of the genre. I’m sure they exist: we just don’t have the best of luck in finding many people with similar tastes to ours :( Except you Angelina! You’re the best! Group hug!

Side note: umm…we’ll just put this link here at the bottom, if anyone wants to click it. We don’t think we have much of a chance of winning since we’re up against YouTube giants, but let’s David the sh*t out of them! Get it? David…and..Goliath…cough…

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  1. My two cents on Kpop.I enjoy listening to some kpop songs too,to be particular songs of EXO,few songs of Crayon pop,2ne1,Bigbang, NCA and MIB,Lip Service.The beats and melody of their songs are catchy and at the same time I like the dance steps. Koreans are very creative which is very obvious when it comes to fashion and concepts of their MVs or even in movies and variety shows.But let me just talked about Kpop.I’m amazed by the group EXO because of their concept as a group. Twelve members with “powers”,add to that their respective symbols and their very catchy MVs and dance steps.But here’s a thing, I’m a 1990s baby and grow up with old school bands like a1,Westlife, NSYNC, HANSON,BSB,911,PLUS ONE, SPICE GIRL,GIRL THING,STEPS and more. These Kpop idols are just like those 90s band it’s just that the former are the trends for youngsters now. Honestly, though K-idols are more hardworking,in a sense they practice for many years before debut,I still find Western bands more passionate when it comes to music. Some of the 90s bands I used to admire create their own songs.I do agree there are many Korean singers who are a lot better (music wise) than some K-idols, as you’ve mentioned Indie musicians.One Korean singer I admire is Ali.One thing I don’t really like about some idols are some of ’em are more concerned about their image or physical appearance.Say for example most girlbands would hide their face saying they don’t have make up or what have they.I respect the fact that they are celebs and koreans really cares a lot about their looks but still too much is unattractive.One reason I’m not also into kpop girlbands.Well,maybe because also of my type of music.If a girlband has a feel of Spice girls or Girl thing or have songs which are like that of Avril Lavigne then I might be a fan.I can’t deny many Kpop songs have catchy beats and dance steps and nice fashion sense but 5-10 years from now trends are gonna change and so are those preteens and teens or even teens at heart will prolly grow up and so as their type of music will change,maybe even their type of artists. Kpop idols who really have natural talents and are really passionate about it will for sure last long when it comes to popularity or whatever.

    3 years ago
  2. My perspective on Kpop has changed over the years. I was introduced through DBSK and was hooked. I also thought it was the best thing ever. Now, I do still like DBSK and JYJ. Over time, I’ve found other songs by other artists. But, I’m not super attracted to these other artists. I have them on my iphone, but it’s because it sounds good. I know there’s all these rookie grops and new bands, but I honestly don’t care about 99% of them. I have friends who have a bunch of bands that have popped up in the few years. But, I feel like the odd one that still likes DBSK… I do enjoy BAP and EXO, but I don’t fangirl about them as much as DBSK. Also, with all these Kpop groups, I honestly can’t remember all their names. I don’t have time to figure out who’s who and who’s the maknae or the leader. I don’t care. Just make a good song.

    My bf has become more aware of Kpop. He doesn’t love it as much as me, but he does like a few songs here and there. He likes anything that sounds good.

    4 years ago
  3. Yeah Crash is the first one I think of besides maybe Oathean, just because I like Oathean :P Their style and sound just please me
    http://seoulbeats.com/2012/06/discovering-korean-metal-a-rocky-road/
    ^That might help you out if you want to find out a little more about it… I myself can’t really help much, because I don’t know a huge amount
    I wish Korean metal had more available information >_<

    4 years ago
  4. I watched this video yesterday and today I wake up to the news of Sistar’s stint on Mnet’s School of Rock where they ended up visiting middle to high school students and holding surprise performances for them. All of the students didn’t show a
    response and this caused the SISTAR embarrassment and heartache, as one can imagine. They ended up crying which isn’t very nice.

    I wonder do Kpop Production Companies understand how popular or unpopular Kpop is in Korea?

    4 years ago
  5. OMG, B.A.P have new song coming out soon called Rain Sound :) I am so happy !!

    4 years ago
  6. … A few days ago a Korean Actor, Won Bin was in a fake scandal with an SNSD member, I think Sooyoung and I thought it was kinda hilarious that his company’s response was that he didn’t even know who she was. Many fans seemed to be insulted by it, but it made all sorts of sense to me. He might know of SNSD and may have heard their music but that doesn’t mean that he knows who each of them are individually.

    4 years ago
  7. I believe that whoever is not working on the video or uploading the video types up the post. But it is completely random. I still can’t tell which of them I am speaking to over emails soo… Yep. Good luck trying to figure it out.

    4 years ago
  8. Lol. Welcome to the madhouse. I am happy to hear that older people are not ashamed of their Kpop love. Makes me wonder how many Nasties there are who are over the age of 30, 40 or 50.

    4 years ago
  9. I was wondering what happens if someone is your age sunbae but your industry hoobae. Or vice versa. How do you address them?

    4 years ago
  10. Well the same goes for people in other countries who love American artists like Beyonce & Lady Gaga. Other people may see it as a super special genre or something, but for many us it’s just normal pop music without anything really special about it.

    4 years ago
  11. Ewha is the top women only univ in SK. Many girls go there to avoid boys….

    4 years ago
  12. I think you make a good point about not being able to understand the language. I think that’s a big reason why I like kpop but don’t listen to or like most of American pop. Actually knowing what the lyrics mean often affects my enjoyment of a song. Like Nu Abo. Although there have been a few times when it made me like the song, like Exo-K’s Mama. I couldn’t get over the Engrish, but then I looked up the English translation and was really surprised at how thoughtful and coherent the song is.

    4 years ago
    • Yeah, that’s also my reason why I rarely look up the lyric (not only for Kpop but other genres as well) unless I really like the song. If knowing what the lyric means I can enjoy the song more, that’s good. But if it will make me less interested in that song, I better stay away from it.

      4 years ago
  13. LOVED your rant Martina!

    4 years ago
  14. Ambos dijeron en un video anterior (no recuerdo ahora cual) que no se puede beber del grifo en corea. y sobre lo de beber del grifo en españa no es del todo cierto… yo soy de canarias y por lo menos en gran canaria no se puede y ahora que estoy estudiando en valladolid la verdada es que mucha gente aqui tampoco bebe del grifo por que la verdad esque muchas veces sabe mal e incluso le sienta mal a algunos.

    4 years ago
    • buf no te preocupes yo me acuerdo porque lo vi hace poco y porque sale en algunos programas (como wgm y running man) y me llamó la atención… ;)

      La verdad es que a mi tambien me extrañó saber que no se bebe del grifo en toda la peninsula. suponía que nosotros en canarias eramos los únicos (aunque creo que en tenerife si se bebe del grifo)

      4 years ago
  15. Another TLDR question:
    You mention how much you enjoy Korean Dramas. Just wondering do you need to watch with English subtitles to get the full storyline? Which is is more difficult; speaking, interpreting, reading or writing Korean? Thanks guys….

    4 years ago
  16. he was in my dream once!!! not too long ago!!
    he was one of my teachers…and that’s all i remember!!! ahaha!!

    4 years ago
  17. Hello simon and martina !

    I wanted to know does korean channels broadcast a lot of foreign movies, series or programs. And if it’s the case, how korean people react to them ?

    4 years ago
  18. I’ve always heard when you visit another country you shouldn’t drink water from the tap, at least not until your body gets used to the diseases in the country. But I’m curious about the milk thing. You don’t put milk in the fridge right away in Spain? I know our milk in the USA will go bad really quick if you don’t keep it in the fridge so I’m curious how they do that in Spain. We do have some little milk containers, like ones meant for little kids to drink, that don’t have to be refrigerated right away. But our big cartons absolutely do need to or they’ll go bad.

    4 years ago
    • here in spain you can buy “fresh” milk wich has to be in the fridge and last like 2 days or so and you can buy treated milk in cartons (pasteurized and sterilized or something like that) that last like a lot of months (don’t know like 4 to 6 or so) and while they’re closed they don’t need to be refrigerated. most people buy the last one cause it’s a lot cheaper (sorry for the eglish)

      4 years ago
  19. i actually wasn’t surprised that Busker Busker won cos i knew they were huge there
    …..how?…..i don’t know….maybe you guys said it before!
    i don’t know anything about rookie groups and i can’t even be bothered to check them our cos there are so many!! i’ve only listened to BAP and EXO!! but i don’t fangirl over them!!

    oh my gosh Martina i’m so with you on the hating kpop thing!!!!
    why must people HATE it!!!?? and i ask the same thing!! (sorta) but i usually say something along the lines of ‘did they hurt you in any way?’ or ‘ did they punch you in the face?’ like seriosuly doesn’t make sense how much hate people have towards kpop!!! like why so negative in life!!!

    oh i love hearing a deep voiced fanboy (fanman?) shout out a SHINee members name!!!

    CONGRATS on getting nominated!!!

    4 years ago
  20. I listen to metal too xD awkwardly mixed taste in music.

    4 years ago
  21. Thank you Martina!! I completely agree with you on the whole rant thing! I know one person who, whenever I talk about K-Pop with a friend, would start saying how much she thinks the groups suck and how they can’t sing and blah blah blah. And yet, she has never listened to any K-Pop songs.Then she would complain about how she felt left out of the conversation, even though I’d try to include her without her having to actually hear the song. It seems like people are incredibly childish when it comes to what type of music others listen to. In my mind, if you like the song then great! If you don’t then you don’t. But to actually say that a certain genre sucks without ever listening to it makes it seem as though … I don’t know… really immature. It’s like at least listen to a few songs before speaking about how much the genre sucks.

    4 years ago
  22. TELL US ABOUT YOUR GHOST ROOM! Please~ ^_^

    4 years ago
  23. Holy cats! I haven’t even watched the video cause I should be working *ahem! yes Boss this is…umm research? Well, I know that Kpop technically doesn’t have anything to do with my job but you never know if one of B.A.P would decided to come to college here…”

    Oh where was I? Oh yeah I haven’t watched the video yet but just the post had me literally choking on laughter (I gotta stop eating while reading your posts!).

    “Did JYP sneak into your house at night, tea bag you, and post the pictures to facebook? Did 2NE1 take a huge dump in your coffee? Did Big Bang personally hack into your ipod and add their music? Did Super Junior because I naughty naughty with your mother?” cracked me up and was what caused me to choke. That and my mind’s picture of Simon dancing around in a cute little coffee shop to Snoop Dogg and I was gone!

    I’ll be back after I get home and watch the video.

    4 years ago
  24. This question has to be answered!!!!

    4 years ago
  25. Wow Finnish music! I’m from Finland :D (sorry this comment is totally irrelevant)

    4 years ago
    • I don’t know if it’s as great as you make it out to be.. Maybe I’m just too used to it :)
      Where are you from, if you don’t mind me asking?

      4 years ago
      • I’m from the States….
        I’ve lived in two of them and traveled to several and I still dislike it
        I just need to move to a big city
        No more medium sized cities/middle of nowhere for me >_<

        4 years ago
        • I know what you mean, Finland doesn’t even HAVE big cities >.< The capital which is the largest city has a population of around half a million, and I don't even live anywhere near there -_- Maybe that is why I love travelling abroad. On that note, I just found out that my school is arranging a trip to Shanghai this spring and I get to go! *excited*

          4 years ago
        • Wow that sounds really cool, I hope you get to go! ^^ I’ve been on a language course once, in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was really great!
          Have you studied Korean for a long time? I only know a few words…

          4 years ago
        • I’ve studied for about 8 months now ^^
          저는 더 빨리 배우고 싶어요~
          Google translate should work just fine for that ;)

          4 years ago
        • Google did work, and I actually understood a little of it myself! ^^ Since I know how to read Korean (which is very useful since I don’t know enough of the language to be able to write anything…)

          4 years ago
        • you should use talk to me in korean if you don’t, because it’s really helpful ^^

          4 years ago
        • I’ve heard about it before, should probably give it a try when I have time ^^

          4 years ago
  26. Izy

    lol you don’t even know! LMFAO I’m in that same boat.

    4 years ago
  27. This tl;dr reminded me of a…not so cool experience I had, about a year ago. Someone started shouting at me, saying I was a ”stupid girl who has selfesteem problem” and that I was using Kpop as porno material… I mean, c’mon, I’m a 20 year young adult who seeks culture in every form, how dear you say that to me! -__-‘ Unfortunatly, I started to get afraid to listen kpop in public…but, hey! On a brigther side, Psy’s Gangam Style kind of changed it. ^^

    My question is: what’s the average age of the Nasties? Since you said kpop fans in Korea were mostly young, I started to wonder about international fans and your fanclub. :D

    4 years ago
    • Haha! Thanks a lot for your answer! :D I totally understand why you love both group, they are so ”spesher”, it’s hilarious to see them! XD

      4 years ago
    • From what I have seen Nasties range widely in ages but it seems that most of them are late teens to early 20s with a few who are older. It is funny how I have to categorize myself into the older category. I still feel young. There are also people who may be parents or even grandparents who watch EYK as a family.

      4 years ago
  28. you should come to sweden, we have a club that plays only kpop~~~

    question: martina mentioned that korean people listen to international music: any particular kind? is it the “top 40” or are there any obscure bands that get played a lot in korea (maybe kinda sorta like rookies being well-known to the “internet community” of kpop, even though they aren’t really that popular)

    4 years ago
  29. “Did Super Junior because I naughty naughty with your mother?”

    WHY U SO FUNNY XD i laughed so much that i scared my cat :’)

    i knew that not everybody is a dedicated kpop fans among foreigners (and native population of course) but i didn’t know that some hate it so much :s and of course kpop is not the unique kind of music -__-” there are also great hip hop stages, soul and jazz singers, rock bands…

    4 years ago
    • In general I find no matter where you go there is a form of music that people ‘ hate’. In the West many people hate modern pop music, rap and hip hop and Country and Western. Hilarious fact, in my country, which is in the Caribbean, Country and Western is really popular with people my parent’s age and Christmas is not Christmas unless the radio stations play Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers Christmas album.

      4 years ago
  30. In my case it could be said I listen to kpop instead of Top 40 here in the States. I’m not a fan of popular music here, I strongly dislike the remotely superficiality of it. Talk of hoes, bling, alcohol and sex (I only allow bling/swag from GD). Learning about Kpop has lead me to appreciate how hard those artist work to pursue their dreams and continue to work for it not expecting it to just be handed to them. They appear more humble.

    I love the peppy up beat feel of kpop, love the ballad sounds of OST’s and the overall fun of it. Truth though, I only have maybe ten kpop groups I really like, love would be five, then a scattering of random songs I like. My real genre of music is indie rock, alternative 90’s music, a smattering of country/folk music, with a giant helping of Josh Groban. My taste is a hodgepodge, and I truthfully have always expecting more people to be that way, outside of the younger generation who is still learning their footing in the music world.

    4 years ago
    • I agree. After I started listening and began following many artists I noticed how they’re always talking about their fans and appreciate what they give them as gifts. I’ve never really seen any artist out here who would take food and blankets and stuff from their fans with such appreciation. Many people here in the States want things handed to them & don’t usually have to struggle too hard to become a singer. I’ve seen how hard it is for a K-pop idol to even become an idol. They waste away half of their childhood to train in order to be the best singer/dancer/MC/actress that they can be because that’s their dream.
      I listen to 80s/90s R&B, Country(love me some Miranda Lambert & Carrie Underwood), some pop(I like Katy Perry & Demi Lovato) as well as K-pop. Though people think all I do is listen to K-pop when I love all types of music if I like it.
      I don’t know many Top 40 artists here in the States, but that’s because I don’t find most of it interesting.

      4 years ago
  31. I love the way you compare kpop to the top 40’s in North America…or well anywhere. You hear it shopping, you might like some, but not everyone knows everything about it other than possibly teenagers. I’m sure people looking at English popular music think the same way, that we all love Beebs…and we don’t. I don’t personally know anyone who does.

    Honestly, I’ve recently made a Korean friend and I get the feeling from her the she doesn’t know kpop. She
    knows who Big Bang and DBSK are, but not much else. She knows K.Will, but I personally don’t see him as kpop, even if kpop introduced me to him. She loves OST’s and
    musicals, she’s closer to 40, which might explain it. I’m personally in my early 30’s.

    I have a kpop love, but in all honesty it is for a select few bands/singers that I’ve found an attachment to and took the time to learn about. Outside of that my music focus is indie rock, alternative and a lot of 90’s music, since that was the music I listened to when I was younger. I’m not a fan of current American pop music, but I love the peepy more danceable not about hoes, alcohol or bling kpop music (I make the bling exception for GD). Kpop is fun, and sometime you just need some fun music to chase the grumpies away.

    4 years ago
  32. Martina’s rant is my rant about pop music in general. I have an unabashed love of everything pop and to see people turn their noses up to it in such a nasty way is really irritating. Yes, you may not like this kind of music but that does not give you permission to completely bash/dismiss it. All music has its value, regardless of how “manufactured” it is.

    4 years ago
  33. I believe the thing with not being a really big fan of your own
    country’s music is all over the world. I for sure don’t really like my
    country’s music, ‘thus I search for something different (at least that’s
    how it sounds to my ears) and I do find it in K-Pop and USA markets. It
    actually wasn’t that surprising, but more like a realization how we can get easily confused with watching too much dramas (where, I believe, many things are exaggerated over the top. Not in every drama!), knowing only the view point we get from the Internet…

    4 years ago
  34. I always hated listening to one radio station cause it always played the same top 10 songs over… and over… and over…. (being at work for 8 hours and hearing the same song 10 times got me close to a breaking point..-__-). Then one day I heard them play PSY and I got so excited…. then was confused…. then was worried they were going to make me hate him too! :S…… (lol never happened ^.^ )

    4 years ago
  35. Same here. But, male.

    4 years ago
  36. TLDR Question: When did you guys become a fan of Kpop? Did you become a fan after or before you both got married? (Christine Phoenix, Arizona.)

    4 years ago
  37. I think, it’s the same for every nation. I, for example, don’t know my native Russian music. Yes I know pretty much songs and singers, but listen mostly korean and american music.
    If somebody will show me a picture of a singer I can’t recognize him or her, the same for melody.
    It is normal for people not to know their own artists, ’cause they already live in this culture. But they want to know another, unknown culture, and try to learn it more detailed than his own culture.

    4 years ago
  38. “We’re not just talking about the music being played outside of stores: we’re also talking about those godawful election trucks” we all encounter phonic polution… some, more than others = . = (don’t worry you’re not alone)

    “they’re just hating on the kpop genre and making no effort to step outside their personal music comfort bubble.” well that’s because there can’t be a world full of “light” wizards, there have to be dark wizards and muggles as well…

    Hope you’re ok and things have gotten better!

    *big hugs*

    ♥♥♥♥

    4 years ago
  39. Question! I’m not sure whether this will get noticed or even have thumbs up but oh well~ Anyways, people kept telling me NOT to listen to KPOP as for some reason it’s part of the illumanati which I really don’t believe. And what really intrigued me was that it was mainly big groups like for e.g. BB, GG and SJ that gave off that vibe. What your thoughts on this and has issues like this been risen up in South Korea? :)

    4 years ago
    • So you’re saying that they said that kpop is a “purported conspiratorial organization which is alleged to mastermind events and control world affairs through governments and corporations to establish a New World Order.” (via Wikipedia) ? if that is so, that’s the biggest ************ I’ve ever heard O.o

      4 years ago
      • I’ve never said that they were :< I'm just simply asking what were S&M's thoughts about it or whether have they across it and their opinions about it. And bytheway I quoted 'I really don't believe' that KPOP is part of the illumanati.

        4 years ago
        • I remember them answering a comment about that and saying it was bullshit.

          4 years ago
        • Yeah sorry I edited my comment … I actually wanted to say “so you’re saying that they said” just can’t believe ppl would come up with such ideas that’s all… wasn’t blaming you…

          4 years ago
        • It’s a bit weird actually, they’re just saying that in some MV’s, mainly SM’s MV’s, the idols show gestures that would be used in illumanati or illumanati references are shown somewhere. I remember me researching about it and one example that I came acros was EXO-K’s Mama. But of course, I don’t really believe them :)

          4 years ago
        • I bet they didn’t even check the English translation of their lyrics

          4 years ago
        • Exactly :/ Can’t blame them though, what you is what you get

          4 years ago
  40. I think, it’s the same for every nation. I, for example, don’t know my native Russian music. Yes I know pretty much songs and singers, but listen mostly korean and american music.
    If somebody will show me a picture of a singer I can’t recognize him or her, the same for melody.
    It is normal for people not to know their own artists, ’cause they already live in this culture. But they want to know another, unknown culture, and try to learn it more detailed than his own culture.

    4 years ago
  41. I lived in Korea for two years so the international Kpop
    fans reaction to Kpop sometimes makes me chuckle. There is one Kpop
    band that seemed to be the most popular with both genders and with the 20+
    crowd among foreigners and Korean… I’m not gonna mention the band name but the their initials happen to be TGTDS. **Runs away**

    4 years ago
    • Or if you wanna rearrange that in a more interesting way, it can be GD and TTS. 8D

      4 years ago
      • Kinda cool what you did there. But it’s one band not two. Still cool though =)

        4 years ago
    • I love how you are trying to be sneaky about it. LOL. Took me all of 1 second to guess.

      4 years ago
  42. Definetly, one of the most interesting TLDR ever… I’ve always wonderer about this because let’s face it, it’s the same in every country. Here in Argentina *Hola :D* it’s the same story, people who come from other countries always expect (considering the fact that they will know argentinian music first, obviously) to listen some tango everywhere but it’s not like that… at all. Actually here we have our gender of rock and it’s more common to argentinians and latinamericans listeners. But people from Germany or USA or even Asian expects tango or something more “native” if you want…

    So in Korea I think it’s the same, Kpop is well known but not crazy obsesive played everywhere. Actually I’ve heard of that “show us a kpop club” thing before.. here. Yes, here. I don’t know if people are ignorant or plane stupid. From magazine workers or people who are in charge of some related kpop events (they don’t know anything about it but they managed them because of masivity and money) expect that kpop music it’s as popular are fans made it to be.

    I think Korea it’s more attached to internacional music than kpop itself. I mean, it’s a market… for young girls and boys. The same way pop was REALLY popular in the 90s with the Backstreet Boys (i’m guilty xD) among teens. Or now with One Direction.

    That’s why it didn’t surprised me when Busker Busker won the rookie award, i think general people in korea enjoy them much more than six guys with bleached hair dancing like there’s no tomorrow *baby there’s no, no tomorrow… ♪ -dancingtotablosong-* /in no way i’m bashing bap/ Even more, i think kpop it’s bigger internationally than in korea. It happens with Exo for me, i thought they were huuuuge back home but reading some comments I realize that korean people didn’t like as much as they want us to believe in allkpop or omona… or my facebook friends. And you know? I think that’s awesome. I’m not a fan of exo and honestly i don’t even know them but i think it’s kinda great that they are very popular among international fans… and maybe that happens to a lot of new kpop bands.
    International fandom it’s getting bigger and bigger… so maybe companies now will target that or pay more attention to as mush as they try in their homeland.

    4 years ago
    • Your comment about how some of the ‘News’ sites make us feel that it is is more popular in Korea than it really is reminds me of how I read that even the Korean media is pretty much faking it, and just pushing out press releases that companies release. It is all for the ‘ good of the hallyu wave’ I think.

      I mean we do the same thing here to market our islands. Why else do you think that when I go abroad people ask if I live in a tree or on a beach, or if we have cars here. Because all the Caribbean is good for are beaches, parties and rum. Edit: oh and ‘Smoking de herb’

      4 years ago
  43. Oh Korean clubs….fun times. Yeah it’s true that most of the clubs play house music and techno. The only clubs that I’ve been to that have played a little kpop…Big Bang and 2Ne1…where the hip hop ones. Side note….hearing California Love in a Korean club made me so happy. lol

    As for the idol groups the people that are really into them were the kids and foreigners. Some Koreans were shocked to learn who are my favorite Korean musicians. As I tend to not like a lot of the idol groups and those are the groups that are big with foreigners.

    4 years ago
  44. About the @Shorty Awards. “Be creative with the reason. A tweet without a reason for the nomination will not be counted.” (Be smart) Please thumb this up so everyone could see.

    4 years ago
  45. K-pop is exactly what it says in its name – popular music in Korea. It’s like pop music on this side; the most popular music tha will be played in malls and stuff, but more than likely, people prefer other kinds of music, and it may generate a lot of haters, or at least people who are annoyed by it. It’s like Justin Bieber, One Direction, etc. on this side.

    4 years ago
  46. T-ara is the best !!!….

    4 years ago
  47. When I was 16 (a long ass time ago) I was SUPER into Jpop. Especially Visual Kei. So I got myself a Japanese pen pal and while I would go “DO YOU LISTEN TO DIR EN GREY AND L’ARC EN CIEL!?” he was like “DO YOU LISTEN TO AEROSMITH AND METALICA!?” He basically told me that they don’t really buy their own music because it was to expensive (it was expensive in SF Japan Town. We laid down $30 for a L’Arc CD). American/Western music was cheaper than JPop.

    I miss pen pals.

    4 years ago
  48. Hey! I’m a film student, specifically studying Cinema and Media (media being anything from the cultural significance of lightbulbs to how the internet functions)- and the fact that YouTube is probably the sole reason why Kpop is so marketable to the international audience is actually very intriguing. Perhaps not many people have thought about it, but Kpop would not be where it is today without YouTube- and for EatYourKimchi, you guys are right at the centre, using YouTube as a crowdsourcing-social networking- industry device to reach global audiences! Sorry if this doesn’t quite make sense- more-or-less I’m super impressed and awed on how you, Simon and Martina, are able to be involved in something so large and have such an awesome, heart-felt, and creative influence on Kpop culture. You guys are positive influence, so thank you!

    4 years ago
  49. About clubs~ I was so SHOCKED when I first went to a club in Korea and the very first song I heard there was… A POLISH SONG! Ha! Not any Polish song but a DISCO POLO song. xD It’s like a really, really bad village pop? To me it’s the most embarrassing kind of music we were able to invent. ^^’
    And also about the whole “rookie of the year”, half year ago I was surprised by it also. I was in Korea this summer and I talked with my Korean friends… on the second day we were out eating something and BAP played on the radio. And they didn’t know who it was. xD And I was like WOW! How come you don’t know? o.o They didn’t know EXO either. xD But they started telling me about Busker Busker and that I should listen to them~ ^^ So yeah, Busker Busker is huge in Korea and I wasn’t surprised by MAMA results.
    Best wishes from Poland!!! :D

    4 years ago
  50. Well I thought that answer will be just ike yours. Few of my friends are listening to foreigner music such as Adele than K-Pop, although they like songs such as 2NE1 – I am the best. I have to listen to K-Pop not knowing that it is called that way xD Firstly I’ve listened to metal and rock, then because of my interests in Japanese culture I started listening to J-Pop and J-rock aaaaand because of anime I came to listening BoA and Younha and my first album that I listened knowing it is K-Pop was Se7en’s 3rd album to which I am addicted until now (apparently I ordered it from Gmarket few days ago at last :D). Just because I like the music. I like the melodies and the beat, but i also do not listen to all Kpop artists simply because they do not match to my music taste.

    I’m from Poland and, it’s a lot to explain but, most people here (basing on what I read on the Internet or listened to people from my surroundings) are like “You’re listening to crap and you don’t have great music taste if you don’t listen to this, that and them”.

    And it is not only K-Pop but generally POPish music. I mean… WTF? If I don’t listen to underground Polish/English/German bands whose music is, as for me of course, nearly the same so I am a crap or something? Can’t I have my own rank of favourites? UUUUHHHH! When I shared Nickelback ( Love them! Canadian rock bands ROCKZ *O*) someone aknowledge me for listening to good music. It is sad but most of my friends are not tolerant or I can’t really explain that Asian point of view about men with make-ups or holding hands is not guy but just cultural. C’mmon… So I don’t talk about music with people that cannot uderstand other points of view than their own, which is quite sad : Going back to what you sad about music in country each person live in. Aaaaannndddd i don’t really listen to Polish songs, actually I have one discography of Patrycja Markowska on my laptop and this is all. I just find Polish music as all the artist are within the same melody for 15 years. It’s so boring… After the video I googled TOP 10 Polish songs and I liked two artists from TOP 10 this one called in English “Frosty” XDD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQhDu25Xvw) and Ewelina Lisowska (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-I8Uxzmgk) and I really liked those two artists but well that’s it. I prefer Kelly Clarkson :<

    If there's anyone else that knows canadian or country music please share the names that aren't on wikipedia :DDD

    4 years ago
  51. regarding the shorty awards: I think I feel more passionate about EYK than any kpop group haha, I’m sure people would be interested in voting for you! you should make a video about the best/funniest/most common reasons people give for voting for you, just imagining simon reading them out loud in his nasty voice makes me giggle XD

    4 years ago
  52. Mel

    Do Korean men and woman find foreigners attractive? Or are most of them attracted to what they are familiar with? If a woman or man were to travel to Korea would Koreans find them attractive or do they tend to stick to their already set standards of beauty, behavior and personalities?

    4 years ago
  53. I don’t normally do this sort of thing.. my love of kPop is odd enough that I generally don’t shove it in people’s faces (I don’t deny it, I just don’t make a big deal of it either) — but for you guise … vote tweeted. <3

    4 years ago
  54. I have (had? we haven’t written in a while xD) a Korean penpal and I remember when EXO came out I was freaking out all the time like omg EXO’s awesome blah blah. So I mentioned it to her, told her how I stayed up really late to watch their interviews and things like that. She responded with “I never heard of them before” ;~; Whenever I run across young Koreans who recently moved to the US, the only group they ever want to talk about is DBSK xD

    4 years ago
  55. Interesting.

    4 years ago
  56. EA

    Nice video. This has been my experience in Korea as well; most of my coworkers and even some of my students are surprised that I know so much about K-Pop. It’s… kind of embarrassing, honestly, because they assume the reason I came to Korea in the first place was JUST because of K-Pop, when K-Pop was just the initial thing that made me want to learn more about Korea. (I mean… people in North America don’t know much about Korea besides the ~Bad Korea~ and a lot of Koreans don’t seem to realize that because they’re all WOOOOOO KOREAAAAAAAA.)

    So, yeah. I try to keep my K-Pop shit on the DL, although I do have a calendar of one of the members of EXO-M on my desk, haha.

    Also, K-Indie is great and I’ve been looking to check out some more bands. I like Neon Bunny and Donawhale. :)

    4 years ago
  57. I never thought of it that way before! I was actually one of those that assume everyone in Korea likes Kpop, so it makes more sense when looked at through a Western perspective… and makes me kind of sad that I don’t listen to more American music. By the Way: Martina, I am also a Justin Bieber fan! I think my favorite song from him is the one he did with Jaden Smith for the Karate Kid remake, Never Say Never! :D

    4 years ago
  58. People just like to complain period. It’s like how I love thrift shopping (it’s kind of an addiction) but the majority of thrift shops are run by Christian non profit organizations. So their stores literally blast Christian music. Now I’m not religious, so songs about God and Jesus aren’t something I want to listen to for the two hours I might spend hunting in their store. So instead of letting it annoy me, I simply bring my earbuds along so I can listen to whatever I’m feeling at that moment. Problem solved, no energy wasted on all that negativity.

    4 years ago
  59. Even here in the states they play Kpop in Korean stores! I love going to this one Korean grocery store because the produce is cheap and I get some “asian foods” cheap (aka I don’t have to pay 12$ for 4 oz of sesame oil, but instead get a giant tub instead) Anywho, always playing kpop- and always keeping up with the new releases too! Seriously! It like your kpop weekly updates happen and BAM! Playing in the store. I wonder if some of the fascination with Kpop is sort of like a Korean pride thing?

    On a side note of younger people only listening to kpop, about 10+ years ago when I first was listening to kpop, I was talking to my one Aunt who is actually a North Korean (or rather her parents were runaways from North Korea from the war) She was shocked to find out I liked some of the Korean groups. She was a big Baby V.O.X and NRG fan. She would always go on about how all the other Korean women her age would tell her she was too old for that. That said I think Korean entertainment is trying more to keep old idols and market them for older people. For example almost all the members of Baby V.O.X are now acting, and I think Kan Mi Youn’s new career is marketed differently that say G-Dragon. She does a lot of drama OSTs, and her dance music is a lot more techno and could be played in a dance club.

    4 years ago
  60. I heard the camel toe song in Uniqlo the other day lol

    4 years ago
  61. Finished the video, and saw the preview for last weeks video. Even though I knew what it was and have seen it already, I STILL thought it said “Western vs Korean Hipster”. I was intrigued haha.

    4 years ago
  62. That sounds like peoples’ relationship to pop music in North America as well. I know a Rihanna song or a Justin Bieber song when I hear it, but I don’t own any Rihanna songs or Justin Bieber songs. I know there is a band called One Direction, and that it is very popular with the young ones. I have no idea who the members of the band are (though I have ascertained that one of them is dating Taylor Swift, and that is apparently a big deal). Speaking of Taylor Swift, I always sing along to her songs in the car on my way to work, but again, I don’t actually own any of her music. I just think the older you get, the more specific your music tastes become, and you’re only willing to spend money on what you’re fairly certain you’ll want to listen to again 2 years down the road.

    4 years ago
  63. wow great TLDR. I really liked your comparisons of how Kpop is similar to what Top 40’s would be like in other countries. I’m so curious now as to which groups that are popular overseas, aren’t so much well known in Korea.. hmm curiouser and curiouser.. obviously you can’t tell me cuz you’ll be murdered by hardcore fans haha

    4 years ago
  64. 822

    I was wondering if you could make a video discussing some of the memorable fan interactions you have had over the past few years. When was the first time someone recognized you on the street? Can you think of a time a fan has surprised you? Have you ever seen a k-pop star that you were a fan of on the streets? Have you ever been surprised that a k-pop idol knows you?

    4 years ago
  65. here is my question. I know that most indie clubs are in Hongdae but where specifically, which ones are better, and where can i get a reliable schedule of bands playing around?

    4 years ago
  66. Loved Martina’s rant! hahaha JYP tea bagging! WTH!
    Kpop seems to be a lot like pop music in other countries. Sure people know about it, but most of the time its going to be the kids in middle school and high school who are listening to it the most. Kpop is also a really well marketed, so as an international audience, sometimes I think we forget that not everyone knows about it like we do. We are actively looking at new Rookie groups and what songs our biases released, but if you asked me what was popular in my country at the moment, I’d have a hard time listing even the popular ones. When I first got into Kpop, we had a Korean exchange student and although he knew about Kpop and liked a few of the songs, he laughed at me for knowing more about the genre than he did XD

    4 years ago
    • Because I naughty naughty your mother lol.

      Ugh I with we had a Korean exchange student (or Japanese). Kind of weird, I went to ba hick school in the middle of nowherr but yet we had exchange students from France, Netherlands, Germany, China (didn’t know they did that), and I’m forgetting a couple I think… and that was just my grade. Two Germans I think.

      Seriously tho, hick school, like we have “drive your tractor to school day” every year and tons of ppl look forward to it lol. Corn was one of our finalists for class flower too! Lol I voted for only non-country song that made finalists for class song… it lost.

      4 years ago
      • Wow that is pretty impressive! We had like 3 exchange students in the whole school!
        Love the description of your school! I’ve only ever lived in cities, so I reckon driving your tractor to school would be so awesome! What was your class song?

        4 years ago
        • You’re school wasn’t big? Our high school (grade 7 to 10) had about 400 students when I graduated, and I think there was about 60 or 70 in my class. Granted they shut down the school a year after we left, but still.
          hahaha 15 mph? Ok yeah, I’d be bored after like 10 minutes and never make it to school lol

          4 years ago
        • Yeah, that makes a bit of a difference. There were 4 high schools in our area, so the schools end up being smaller.

          4 years ago
        • The concert is on the 16th of February, but everyone is concerned that Block B won’t be there because of their issues at the moment. Also, I don’t think they’ve sold enough tickets, but it hasn’t been cancelled so I’m still hopeful!
          ‘rivals’ lol Sounds intense. Sure we didn’t like the other high schools around us, but I wouldn’t call us rivals.
          Our class was similar to yours, mostly because we were just a small grade, you had at least one class with everyone. So everyone was friendly and we didn’t have many cliques. There were a few like the druggies and guys who played sport, but other than that everyone was friends.

          4 years ago
        • Yeah rivals moreso for sports but we pretty much hate their guts. My cousin went to the other school that’s our rival so I didn’t associate w/ him much during sporting events lol.

          Yeah not thinkin Block B will be there lol, that kind of throws a wrench in things, wonder if they’ll replace them.

          4 years ago
        • Lol just because they went to another school? It was kind of like that here, but the local prep teams were made up of kids from all of the school. So they had to train together and that pretty much got rid of any school rivalry, because they were friends outside of school lol

          *coughNU’ESTcough* hahaha 1/2 of pledis will already be there XD but it is starting to be a little short notice to get another group and they still haven’t announced who the last group is meant to be. IDK, just have to wait and see.

          4 years ago
  67. I have also heard a Wonder Girls song a few times in an american bar of all things up in Dongducheon

    4 years ago
  68. Korean wedding. I remember that you wanted to tell us about korea wedding after going to one of the Buskar Buska member weddings. So could you tell us about that.

    4 years ago
    • Interesting question!

      4 years ago
    • Yeah I would be interested too! I am getting married so wedding crap is always on my mind, and learning what people in other countries do.

      4 years ago
  69. Actually, if you’re looking for a Kpop club, there’s on in Itaewon! My dad and I passed it on our way to All That Jazz, a super cool jazz club in Itaewon. (You should check it out, the jazz trio they had was awesome~)

    4 years ago
    • yes thats where not inchon *forehead slap* I knew it was somewhere around there and yes all that jazz is awesome but get there early as it gets crowded fast

      4 years ago
  70. I am seriously not surprised at this at all. It reminds me of when I was younger and into anime hardcore and when I told my Japanese profs about liking it they were like oh, ok, that’s nice but weird. Being an otaku ( which was the word that western anime fans appropriated at the time I was into anime like 10 years ago ) in Japan is actually not a good thing. It’s like being an obsessive nerd who collects all sorts of anime accoutrement and doesn’t know how to interact with normal people.

    I finally matured into realizing that being interested in Japanese culture may be a cool thing to do in the western world, but you have to be careful how you come off too Japanese people when you are interested in it. I have no idea how it is now though since I have not been as into that scene like I used to be, but here in my country that just started up an anime/ pop culture convention and the sort that go to those things are the teenagers and guys in their 20s and 30s who are huge Bleach or Naruto fans.

    Thus why I tread carefully with Kpop and Korean stuff. I may like it but I would never assume that every Korean person likes it. Just like I am from the Caribbean but am not necessarily into Reggae or Calypso.

    4 years ago
    • just wondering but are you from Barbados? ?My mom is from there.

      4 years ago
    • I hate the term Otaku and cannot understand why people want to anchor themselves to that term. But I’m old and from a time when you simply didn’t call yourself that because it was so bad.

      4 years ago
    • Yeah, I’m friends with some international students from South Korea and I didn’t mention that I listen to K-pop cause I didn’t know how they’d react. One of the girls listens to it though and asked me if I did so we have awesome conversations now, lol. But still, obsessive k-poppers kind of scare me *coughlikeoneofmyfriendsfromhighschoolcough*

      4 years ago
    • Heh, have you seen the the SNL skits making fun of American J-pop fans? It’s supposed to be two college students with a cable access show that they have to have supervised by their Japanese studies professor. They’re super obsessed with Japanese pop culture, but to the dismay of their professor, don’t realize that they’re actually being ignorant. It’s pretty funny.

      4 years ago
  71. Kes

    My question: how have things changed since you first came to Korea? It’s a fast-moving country, in the internet age, relatively recently developed…I know that when I was getting ready to come here I was told a lot of things that seem to be untrue now. For instance I’ve seen lots of women’s fashion with bared shoulders, it’s easy to find deodorant, it’s easy to find tampons….

    What have you guys noticed change, and is there anything you think that’s changing now or will change soon? (that’s not a broad question at all, huh? XD)

    4 years ago
  72. I love Martina’s rant – JYP teabagging you in the middle of the night?! I LOL’ed XD

    4 years ago
  73. I don’t love Justin Bieber…. But Somebody To Love and Beauty & The Beat are just too damn catchy! Ahhhh!

    And yeah… I don’t wanna sound like I’m dissing the popular internationally well-known groups but I heard that Koreans themselves know who the good artistes actually are, besides the few giant names. Through Running Man, I’ve known so many other artistes such as Taru/The Breeze/Deli Spice and I’ve grown to appreciate another aspect of Korean music so much more!

    4 years ago
  74. That’s true only songs I heard in clubs last half year I heard 2ne1 I love you and I’m the best, Big Bang Fantastic baby all kind of Gangnam Style remixes and Roly Poly maybe once xD but my korean friend told me there is a kpop club somewhere in hongdae if I remember correctly. I once was in so called kpop club in wangsimni but it was super small and they remixed the songs so badly it was hard to tell wether it was kpop or not ><
    I remember people telling me I know everything about kpop when I was talking about rookie groups from this year like Nu'Est (very unpopular nobody new them in fact @@) BAP also almost nobody but I saw them in some shops in the TVs and heard Hajimah few times. EXO I saw them on some small poster of some comsetic brand ( and on DBSK concert as they were sitting in front of me lol but that's a different story) XD
    However as Simon and Martina said Kpop is everywhere~~ Lee Sungi's new song was popular, Miss A- I dont need a man, I heard it all time and K will one also kkk

    4 years ago
  75. I completely agree with this. Not everyone loves Kpop here but they are aware of it as its like the mainstream music being played. Often my co-teachers are asking me what bands are popular and/or who a certain person is the students (mostly with the girls) are gushing over. When I did my introduction answer my students were surprised when I said I knew Kpop and had even been to a few events in North America.

    Now when it comes to what groups are popular, it is mostly the newer groups. EXO isn`t actually all that popular, BAP is much more popular at least in the Middle School girl demographic. Sure there are still the hardcore VIP fans, a few ELFS and even SHINee is popular in my school, but BAP and B1A4 are the bands girls are marking up either desks with and doodling in class while they pretend to listen to me.

    As for the boys, Girl`s Generation still rains supreme. Other than that the rest is a mix bag…

    4 years ago
  76. I’ve experienced that with my Korean class when we had exchange students visiting to help us~ Most of them only knew of groups but didn’t really listen to them.

    I think at the end of the day it all just depends on the individual~ *shrugs* I mean I live in Australia but I don’t follow my own country’s music scene… I know it there but I just don’t really follow it… Its the same anywhere else~ Just people’s personal taste =) Kpop just ended up being interesting to me~ ^^

    And omg yes to Martina’s rant! HIGHFIVE! lol

    4 years ago
  77. me too :( I went to vote earlier but then I was like..oh…you need twitter :/
    I can’t get twitter otherwise I will do nothing with my life!!!!!

    4 years ago
  78. “Did Super Junior because I naughty naughty with your mother?” hahahaha, I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing. This is why I love you Martina hehe ^___^

    Anyway I have a question which kind of links onto this one, kind of…
    Do Kpop fans in korea (the really dedicated ones who are so dedicated that they make up fan chants of which, as a fellow fan girl I greatly admire :P) listen to their bias’ and favourite idol’s Japanese or Chinese albums and singles etc??

    I know that you guys don’t review Japanese pv’s by Korean groups anymore because you said that you don’t hear them in Korea – does that mean that the fans wouldn’t know about their songs in another language.
    I guess that would make sense because, unlike me, they understand the Korean songs and don’t understand the Japanese ones so why would they listen to them? As for me, I don’t understand either language so it really doesn’t matter haha. Also often Japanese singles are translated to Korean and added to the next korean album, so I just wondered….

    It would be a real shame, I think if they don’t because, well for example, Tick Tack is probably my favourite music video from UKISS ever and one of my favourite songs too!! I know there is a korean version but I can’t listen to it because the english lyrics, “tonight we gonna party,” totally changes the eerie but epic-ly awesome feel of “to lie, I shall be here.” (even though that really doesn’t make sense) Also, Japanese songs usually have a different sort of vibe to them – they are more heavily influenced by J-pop or J-rock – and I feel like it adds an extra kind of diversity and interest to the artists. Like FT ISLAND’s jap songs, they are so j-rock sounding, probably influenced mainly by ONE OK ROCK, which is really nice for FT Island because they love them so much. And its nice for primadonna’s too because it shows a different side to the flower band. Just thinking that the Korean pri’s don’t know about all the many jap album’s saddens me.

    well, sorry this ended up being long….it’s a bad habit of mine….

    4 years ago
  79. That was such a good question!! i’ve always had in mind that probably not all koreans like kpop but this makes it more clearer to me now x)

    4 years ago
  80. Honestly, you should put the link-thingy to vote on the top of the post. I almost didn’t see it :O
    If I think about how dedicated people are with voting on KMM, I’d like to see the power of nastiness with voting ^_^

    4 years ago
  81. Damn, I’ve always wanted to ask this question, but not Kpop but the indie music in Korea. How is it popular? How strong is its presence? Is it strong enough to have a little bit of effect on the general Kpop scene?

    4 years ago
  82. its the same with Sunny Hill, really popular within Korea, but its not as well known for international fans.

    4 years ago
  83. Do Koreans dislike facial hair? Because most male idols do not have one :)

    4 years ago
    • Most Korean girls don’t like facial hair. And they are the majorities of customers. So mowed it will be. And if you want to work for the Koporate, no facial hair, no tatooes, wear dark colored suit and ties. No casual Fridays either.

      Strangely back in the olden days, cutting ANY bodily hair was taboo b/c it was something your parents gave you. If saw Rooftop Prince, three stooges cry b/c they had to cut their hair to fit into modern society.

      4 years ago
      • oh. i thought they kept their hair long because it is a symbol of honor or something like that. at least that’s what i read somewhere when i searched about it.

        4 years ago
    • I know that in Chinese culture, clean-shaven boys are generally more desirable, so it may extend to Korean culture, too.

      4 years ago
    • I know my one friend ended up marrying a Japanese guy (I know different countries! But I wouldn’t be surprised if the views are somewhat similar) At one point he made a big fuss because he had to go back to Japan. He had to shave his beard because he was sure he would never get hired for any job otherwise. The way he described it seemed a little going to an interview in a dirty t-shirt, it shows that you are “lazy” and not interested in “hygiene” or your appearance.

      That said, I can think of quite a few Japanese actors and rock idols (no pop idols, though maybe for a role in a drama) who have some beards or mustaches. BUT none for Korea. I really can’t think of any that aren’t little wispy staches or something like that. By western standards, I haven’t seen a Korean celeb going past the “my first mustache phase”, nothing even close to what Toshiro Mifune or Hiroyuki Sanada have grown.

      And from my knowledge, I think Japanese are known for their “thick” facial hair in Korea. Just some two cents in there.

      4 years ago
    • Kes

      Everyone says that MBLAQ’s GO got more handsome when he shaved his ‘stache. I thought he was super fly then and is boring now. :P

      4 years ago
    • I would rather say that it just doesn’t grow, not because they don’t like it, they just don’t have facial hair. Or at least my asian bf doesn’t have xD

      4 years ago
      • Kes

        I think on average Asians are less hirsute, but it varies from person to person. ^^

        I know Super Junior Ryeowook and Sungmin were talking about facial hair–Sungmin shaves I think once a week, and Wookie has to shave twice a day. XD

        4 years ago
      • Seriously? What I know is, every men after puberty WILL have facial hair. It’s either he gets rid of it every single day or he has made a surgery. Facial hair growing is nature for men, as far as i know.

        4 years ago
      • well, GD actually shaves regularly and it’s true that G.O admitted it was hard for him to grow his moustache. so i guess it’s kinda different with everyone but the asian gene in general or maybe korean guys in general don’t grow thick or visible facial hair i guess. there is epik high’s mithra, tiger jk and dumbfoundead though so maybe as they get older their facial hair will grow on thicker.

        4 years ago
      • Or it just looks goofy when it does grow, as I’ve seen on all of my Asian guy friends. They look so goofy with their wispy little mustaches.

        4 years ago
        • Hey- not true with all of them! Have you seen Lee Kwang Soo with facial hair? He looks so damn hot with facial hair- I’d say he looks better with facial hair than without. And what about several notable actors who have grown facial hair for historical roles? OMG OMG OMG- seriously, so hot!!!!!

          4 years ago
        • And that guy from Ailee’s “Heaven” MV has a decent facial hair too.

          4 years ago
  84. Oh Gawd! I could picture in my head Simon, in his dothraki man body, air humping while singing Snoop Dogg. Anywoo! Is it true that Snoop change his name to Snoop Lion?!?

    4 years ago