Leigh here! We covered on-campus dorms pretty thoroughly in the video, but we only touched upon the off campus ones, called goshiwon (고시원, sometimes sneakily called goshitel 고시텔 or living-tel 리빙텔). These puppies are generally tiny, with just enough room for a bed, a desk, and if you’re lucky, a television. Of course, you’ll have to be careful using that television, because goshiwon are notorious for their paper thin walls and general dinginess. If you find a good one though, they can be quite liveable.

In addition to dorm-style housing are home stays, called hasuk or hasukjip 하숙/하숙집. These are usually run by nice Korean ladies, who cook a homemade breakfast and dinner for you. There might be some house rules, like “stay outta my kitchen!” or “come home before 2am!” but all my classmates who did home stays had good experiences. Unlike other home stay programmes, a hasuk has lots of other students living in the same house, so it’s a great way to meet other people and practice your Korean. Plus, unlike dorm living, home stays have all the comforts of a home. Take advantage of that living room, son!

Regardless of whether you go with a home stay or a dorm, you’ll be asking the same questions. Good places have clean kitchen facilities, ones that include free rice, ramen, eggs, and kimchi. There should be cooking utensils and pots for you to use. There should be more than one washing machine available, at least one per floor. Most dorms have fixed times when you cannot use the washing machine, which, if there’s only one available, might mean waking up at 5am to get the jump on your neighbours. There should be a separate area to hang up your laundry afterwards. If it’s outside, make sure it’s covered, so your laundry won’t get soaked.

Don’t be afraid to haggle your room price down, either. Ask if your place has has ondol (온돌 floor heating) and central air conditioning. If it doesn’t, ask for a discount. If you get a room without a window, ask for a discount. If your room is next to the noisy office, the main door, or the bathroom, ask for a discount. If there isn’t a room with a private bathroom available, ask for a discount. If there isn’t wifi, ask for a discount. If there is deposit money and you can afford it, offer to pay a bigger deposit in exchange for (wait for it) a discount. If you plan on staying there long term, you guessed it, ask for a discount. Practice making those puppy eyes and whining “but I’m a student…” in your cutest voice.

And if that still isn’t giving you enough savings, you can be strategic about where you live to try and save some cash. Student housing is generally considered the cheapest of the cheap, but believe it or not, some areas of Seoul cost less than others. I’m going to break it down for you by subway line.

AVOID: Line 1, Line 5, Line 3

Subway lines 1 and 5 are huge subway commuter lines to other satellite cities, so big transfer stations like Sindorim and Kkachisan are a bit more upscale (read: expensive). Line 1 cuts through Yongsan-gu, which is up there with Gangnam as one of the most bougie areas of Seoul. And line 3 connects the old city centre Jong-ro with Gangnam, which means I’ll only ever be able to afford a place on line 3 in my daydreams. I could be wrong about this. Anyone out there find affordable housing in the above mentioned areas? Let us know! Spread the knowledge!

Line 2

Line 2 is your lifeline. Places like Sinchon (near Yonsei, Ewha, and Sogang Universities) and Hongdae (near Honggik Uni) have lots of student housing options. But those are some of the most happening areas of Seoul, and all the places I looked at were a bit older, smaller, and more expensive as a result. The area around Seoul National Univeristy on the other hand, is only popular with SNU students, and thus offers tons of super cheap goshiwon and one rooms (studio apartments). I had several friends live near Sillim station too. I’m not 100% on this, but it seems in Sillim you’ll find more one rooms than dorms.

Line 7

Line 7 is another big commuter line, and has lots of cheap housing. If you’re a ladyfolk, Sungsil Women’s University has some women-only goshiwon that are decent. I also recommend looking near Daerim station in Guro-gu. Daerim is kind of unpopular with Koreans. It isn’t a dangerous area or anything. There are just more offices than houses in Daerim, and there’s a huge Chinese population (score! authentic Chinese restaurants!), so for the same price of a place near, say, Hyewha station on line 4, you can get a much bigger room in Daerim. It’s not on line 7, but Wangsimi station on line 2 I hear is in the same boat.

Not on a subway!

As a rule of thumb, the closer your housing is to a subway station, the more expensive it will be. My best finds were near the back gates of universities rather than the front gates, and near bus stops rather than subway stations. It was a pain to wait for the bus in the winter cold, but I was rewarded with a comfortable room in a clean building. And I got along really well with all my neighbours. No complaints here!

The best way to find housing is to go to the area you want to live in and walk around the back alleyways. Use your eyeholes, and you’ll see signs on buildings that either say “하숙” (hasuk) or “임대” (imdae, which means “rentals”). These signs usually have a telephone number below them. Call this number. Even if you don’t speak Korean, just keep asking “방 있어요?” (bang ee-so-yo?) and they’ll figure out what you mean. I’m not a native speaker, but the following phrases definitely helped me out when I was in the market for a room:

빈 방 있나요? Do you have any free rooms?
월세 얼마예요? How much is it a month?
밥이 포함돼요? Is food included?
언제 입사하면 돼요? When can I move in?
보증금 없죠? There’s no deposit, right?
화장실을 보여 주시겠어요? Can you show me the bathroom?
인터넷은 어떻게 돼요? Is there internet?
에어컨은요? What about air conditioning?
난방은요? What about heating?
그걸 써 주세요. Please write that down for me.
빈 방이 생기면 연락해 주세요. Please contact me if a room opens up.

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  1. hi leigh ! and GUYSS ~!!
    im now already accepted at SNU LEI for this fall term
    im now desperately searching for a oneroom near snu with good price …
    is anyone here know any place to check or any info to share ? i would really appreciate that !! >w<
    anyway !have a great day !
    thanyou before^^

  2. calebburke4

    Hey Leigh!

    I’m hoping maybe you would know a little about the area around Sookmyung Culinary Academy in Seoul??? I’m looking to transfer as an exchange student there within the next year or two and I’m wondering if I would be able to find not only affordable housing off campus (Because I would like to be able to bring my GF with me while I am finishing school) but also maybe find part time work for myself. And also maybe get some pointers on what I would need to do for her to be allowed to work while I am in school. If you don’t know these things yourself if you’re maybe able to direct me to someone who could possibly answer my questions it would be really awesome :D

  3. Some errors must be modified. Places near Daerim station is known for bad public order. I remember hearing from one of the vice station master of subway line7 that a station agent in Daerim station(line7) got rewarded for his achievement of capturing 3,000 illegal riders a year. I can’t recommend Daerim as a good place to live in; there are so many other options you can choose.

  4. Hi everyone! I’m going to be graduating next year from high school and I really want to go to Korea for university. My parents are ok with it, they just want me to do all of my research first. I’m wanting to go to Seoul National University and I am wondering about the process of applying and everything like that. If anyone is going there please let me know! I want to make some friends in advance so I won’t be lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely and have people show me around! So if anyone has any info about this or just wants to be my friend please reply, and don’t forget to stay nasty xD

    • I’ve actually changed my mind in the past few days and am thinking about Yonsei University more. Also I am thinking about doing the summer program there next summer (2015) and was wondering if anyone has done it before and has any advice/tips.

    • I know this was 2 months ago, but I’m thinking about doing the same thing. I’ll be a senior in high school this coming school year and have been thinking about applying to a korean university as an undergrad since my sophomore year. I’ve been looking into Korea University and KyungHee University (am a big fan of lion and tiger mascots; buckeyes just don’t cut it xD). Maybe we can figure this process out together :)

  5. I have a rather involved question for all you nasties ;)
    It is my life’s mission to somehow, someday live in South Korea for however long is reasonably possible. However, I have a couple obstacles that stand in my way. The big one is my health. I’ve been chronically ill with quite a few diseases for my whole life and have had three liver transplants (necessary because of a very rare, incurable liver disease) at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, my last one happening just under three years ago. I am 26 years-old. I have never been able to get a real job or go to school for more than to get my GED and do a year-long yoga teacher training. I am in better health than I’ve been through a lot of my life and can take care of myself and live independently. I live on SSI, food stamps and what my dad can contribute.
    I have been teaching myself Hangul along with the help of a private teacher. Previously, I had taught myself some Japanese and have been studying Asian culture myself for many years. Last fall I got to go to Japan and if I thought I was pining for Asia before then it’s nothing compared to now.
    That brings up my two main problems: health and money. The money one could probably be overcome and I would still be able to receive my SSI monthly money in S. Korea. Food stamps and other things, are, of course, out of the picture, but all things considered, I might just be able to to swing it with other resources available to me.
    The big problem: My health. I need to be have access to my medications, have a doctor I can see if needed and access to medical facilities that would be able to do at least some simple tests that Mayo might require. A relationship with a specific hospital and/or clinic would be ideal.
    Besides that, I know that I would have a lot of trouble keeping my attendance up to the expectations of some schools while also completing all my homework. I don’t know if there are good language schools that offer part-time schooling?
    If possible, I would like to continue on to a technical college to study beauty (nails, skin care, cosmetics).
    I feel very confident in my learning abilities, ease with Asian culture and city life, social skills and my ability to, given the right resources, thrive independently.
    I know that this seems like a big endeavor but I would so greatly appreciate anything you can share. You might ask why I don’t try to go to school or get a job where I live. While this is, of course, within the realm of possibility, I don’t know how much health or time I have and I want to use it as efficiently as I can. I don’t want to end up terminally ill again without having at least reached for my dream. Long story short: I don’t know how, but I need to be over there. I need to at least try.
    Thank you thank you! <3

    • Hey Becca!
      I really hope that you have found a solution by now, but since nobody seems to have answered you, I thought I might try to help (even though I don’t think there’s much I can do for you, I’m really sorry). I actually wanted to go to South Korea myself, but now I don’t think it will work out.
      This Evening Program at the Korean Language Institute would be too expensive for me, but maybe you can afford it? http://www.yskli.com/_en/proc/p2.asp

      Don’t give up!

  6. guise I have a question for you. I’m going to Canada this fall term as an exchange student, specifically to WLU at Waterloo, ON, what do you recommend I should be looking out for mainly and any other things you could recommend please? x3

  7. I live in that Chinese populated Guro-gu just around from Daerim
    station. As you said it is nice to have some authentic Chinese food
    (especially for me because despite being a very pale American girl, I am
    fluent in Chinese and used to live in Beijing. So some of the scents
    just walking by some of those restaurants really bring back many
    memories for me).

    However, the day we moved in to this neighborhood the taxi driver warned me of
    how dangerous this area is. And being a taxi driver he knows what he is
    talking about..

    There are drunken fights that break out frequently enough here. In the
    first month moving in there were quite a many times I saw police and an
    ambulance down side streets in our neighborhood and I still do to this day. It’s an area notorious
    to Koreans for being dangerous. And now I can from my own experience attest to that…

    The area around the subway stations with lots of offices and restaurants
    is fine to go walking through looking for some good
    Chinese hot pot. But, regardless, as for living here (especially for females) it’s just not safe.

    Though I still don’t feel very comfortable I am quite
    alright living here because I live with my husband who is Korean. (And no, doesn’t
    speak any English, at least not beyond “Hello. How are You?)

    So I was very shocked to see you mentioning the Guro-gu area and even
    translated a bit of what you said about it to the hubby, who responded
    as concerned as me. We know our neighborhood and know it’s not a neighborhood to recommend for foreigners who need a place to stay. We hope you will remove
    it from your recommendations….

  8. Hi everyone! I’m going to be studying and living at Yonsei University this fall and potentially the spring semester as well and I was wondering if anybody could tell me some of the dorm rules for SK Global and I-House. I think I’ve read somewhere down in the comments that there is no curfew. Is that true? Also, can we stay overnight somewhere (or go on a 2 day trip) without having to fill out a form? Are visitors, like parents, allowed in the dorms? Any info that you have about an international student’s life at Yonsei would really help. Also, if anybody’s at Yonsei this fall or spring, I’d love to meet you and be friends!

    • I will also be attending in the fall! Similarly, I’m looking for that information, so sorry that I have nothing on my end to proffer…

    • Hey! I studied at Yonsei for a year and stayed at both the SK Global and I-House. There is no curfew and you can stay overnight without any forms. The rules were pretty relaxed when I was there, only thing was the floors are strictly gender separated. Visitors can go in the dorm lobbies but for the SK Global they have to have a swipe card to get passed into the actual dorm area. I-House is older and didn’t have the same type of swipe entrance though it may have changed. I really loved my time at Yonsei and the Sinchon area. I hope you enjoy!

  9. I lived in International House at Sungkyunkwan University as a graduate student for an entire year. All of the rooms there were double occupancy rooms, with balconies for storing things and drying clothes, and each came with a private bathroom/shower, which was great. There was a “full” (everything but an oven) kitchen downstairs that came complete with pots, silverware, and plates for all to use. I had a lot of classmates in another dorm, Kingo House, that was much newer, but did not have balconies and lacked a kitchen. Both dorms were pretty cheap (my scholarship paid for my housing though).

    I guess we technically had a curfew, since the door would lock after midnight, but there was a code you could punch in that would open it up, so we would just leave or stay out as long as we wanted. There were posted rules about not allowing alcohol in, but they never checked any bags, so IDK how they could really enforce that. I never tried to bring any alcohol in though, since there were so many bars so close that we would just drink when we were out. We never had any “points” check in/out system.

    There were rules about opposite genders in your room, but again, there was no enforcement. We would have movie nights in some friends’ room from time to time, and I know for a fact that there was some hanky/panky going on in other peoples’ rooms.

  10. I have a question about the fees. How expensive is being an international student in Korea? Are y’all on scholarships? I’ve been thinking about applying for the government scholarship next year, because I will be graduating and after 6 years I can’t live on my parents’ money anymore. It’s just not fair. But I still to be a student and I really want to live in Korea.
    Leigh and everyone, how do you pay for university?

  11. This comment section has so much good information!! :’D

  12. Hello~ I want to go to Korea for college. Does anyone know a college that is not outrageously expensive and a good college? Also, inexpensive dorms that is not publicly open as much? (For example: showering together) Please help. Thank you!

  13. Hi Simon and Martina!

    We recently had Easter and a little while ago you guys made a video explaining that Christmas isn’t really celebrated in Korea, as its more of a couple day thing. So I was wondering does korea have a particular religion that the majority of the country follows such as Buddhism, Judaism, Catholicism, Christianity ect. Also how is Korean general attitude towards religion and religious believes? I know that here in Australia we are taught at a young age to respect all believes and to try and understand different religions. Does the same kind of thing happen in korea? Are there certain stigmas placed on people with different religions over there? Are there parts of Korea that are more welcoming to different religions?

    Georgie from Australia

    Ps, do you remember how to pronounce Melbourne?

  14. This breakdown of different neighborhoods is fascinating. We all know that Gangnam-gu is expensive but even though I spent most of my summers in Korea, as a foreigner, I don’t really understand how each of the other towns- Nowon, Chuncheon, for example, are perceived. Thus I was never really sure where we could go without my family to guide them lollol. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video on/ break down the districts, maybe by subway line?

  15. In terms of amount of space you get for the money, goshiwons usually represent bad value. You are better off going to love motel and ask for weekly rate.

  16. 안녕하세요, 베트남에서 란입니다 ^^
    Hi Leigh, Simon and Martina (생일축하해요 언니 :))
    I’m going to graduate from high school next year and I’m planning to study university in Korea
    I want to know which uni is Leigh studying at and which major is it
    I also want to know if I should attend the language program in Korea before uni or I could get a degree in my hometown

    Thanks in advance :D
    감사합니다 오빠와 언니들 ^^

  17. Mainy Åkerman

    WHAT?! You mean you can’t do the Flogsta scream in Korea?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

    …I should probably explain what the Flogsta scream is, huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuv3y3r7UXA <— That's the scream. It's done every night at 10pm, when the silence curfew kicks in. I don't go there but my cousin does. Drives him nuts when people do this. He says it's fun on the first week of school since they have competitions on the rooftops, but after that it goes from annoying to downright terrifying. He's always afraid that someone might be screaming for real and need help.

    By the way, the tradition started in honor of a student who committed suicide back in the 70s. Lovely, huh? = n =

    Anyway, the off-campus housing in Korea seems like a much better option. I have a friend who I met online who live off campus like that, in fact! He said it's much more nice because he can actually drink and eat and not fear getting kicked out. But the walls are very thin, like Leigh said. Still, seems like the more logical option if you're willing to pull out some extra money.

  18. Hi! Can anyone tell me about living on campus at Seoul National? I want to go on exchange and SNU is my first preference. Any tips or things that I should know about that aren’t on their website?

  19. The country where I quite want to be
    Your mountains so lofty
    Your treetops so tall…

    Happy birthday Martina! <3

  20. I’ve stayed in Sogang University dorms for about 1 month during their language exchange summer program. It was great because it was only two people per room (a lot of space) and directly on campus. (I heard the dorms were pretty new themselves too!) There were no fridges allowed in our dorm, and each floor was gender-separated. So separated that the boys cards would not even work to get onto the girls floor and vice versa. However, my boyfriend at the time snuck into my room before, and either the cctv didn’t catch him or the security guard didn’t notice! We always snuck alcohol in, but there was a midnight curfew. Of course, since the subways close at midnight, it was always a pain to try and catch one, especially when you were in Hongdae. A good note for internationals doing that one month stay was that the curfew didn’t really apply to us…I mean it did, and the security guard would give you major glares when walking in at 4 am, but our cards would still swipe us in and we never got reprimanded (other past summer students told us of this, and we went out almost every night every weekend, so I can vouch fully that the curfew does not apply!). There was also a dining hall in the dorms, on the basement floor. They served twice a day I believe, and they actually had two dining options. A korean version and an International version (sort of like an american version). Now, it wasn’t 100% full American, it was sort of a korean take on American food. So in those morning when you’re still adjusting to eating soup and fish for breakfast, doing the American dining line was a savior. They open and close at specific times, so you always want to be sure that you’re there in time to eat and finish. There was also a GS25 located right next to the dorm (literally RIGHT next to it when you go outside the dorms) that had everything from toilet paper to triangle kimbap (great when you’re late for class and don’t have time to go to the dining hall!). There were also two entrances, one in the very front (which believe me, is a HIKE. Sogang is built on a giant campus with giant hills, so be prepared for a 10 minute hike) and one in the back, right near the dorms we stayed in. Definitely build your day around which entrance you want to use! That’s all I can think of when dealing with the questions in the video, but if you guys have any questions about the summer program itself or other stuff, feel free to ask! <3

  21. I went on exchange to Sungkyunkwan University (Humanities & Social Science Campus) where you have three different international dorms. I stayed at the i-house and at Migaon ville. At Migaon-Ville you have an apartment that you share with 3-4 other people. It gives a bit more privacy but you still have to share the bedroom with another person (always same sex), you don’t have any kitchen equipment and the living room was non-existent (=no couches or a big table, just separated computer tables to work). At i-house you share the bedroom and bathroom with another person and there’s a common area and kitchen. There’s a curfew but luckily it is not enforced (well most of the time, I came back after breakfast anyway!) and bags are not checked. You can bring friends from outside but the caretaker will watch who goes in and out. Better be friendly! Also, better don’t take a person of the opposite sex to your room… or at least be very, very quiet!

    Friends of mine (who stayed for one year on exchange) rented an apartment after the first semester, in Itaewon. That is of course a very good option and I think they were lucky enough to find one without a high deposit.

  22. I live in chennai (Tamilnadu, India) and many a hostels/dorms be it independent working women’s hostel or hostels associated with the university ,especially the strict ones have the very same rules. In my hostel i was not allowed to own a kettel and i hab to pay fine if my electricity bill exceeded the prescribed limit(which is a very very rare case). I was not allowed to bring food from outside,unless it is from the college cafeteria. Basically most of the stuff Leigh said.While we don’t have CCTV cameras, we do have security checks and sudden raid to check whether we have stuff that are prohibited by the hostel. There are some hostels that are a lot more lenient when it comes to curfew and the electronic equipment you can have. In my friends hostel, she was allowed to have a toaster and a kettle and they can stay out whenever they wanted and all they had to do was sign in the register. She was even allowed bring in food from restaurants.

  23. Awesome thank you so much Liegh i would probably think about a more independent place to live for me

  24. I’m thinking about going to SNU in the fall, but I’m going because I want to be fluent in Korean, asap, not because I want to go to uni out there. Does anyone know if that’s totally unheard of? I’m in grad school currently, and the areas where I want to work, I could really benefit from being multilingual, but I don’t want to go off and a) spend the money to get an entirely separate degree and b) take years and years about it. I’ve already been in school forever! This seemed like the quickest and most effective (and most awesome, hello!) option. Unfortunately I’d have to put grad school on hiatus in order to do this, because my opportunities to go are kind of — right now or not ever again. So I thought I’d scoot on over to Korea, do the six levels, and come out the other side officially fluent. (After lots, and lots, of work …) But I’m hesitating now because everyone seems to be doing either as an exchange student or in preparation for actually attending school in Korea, and that’s really not what I’d be doing it for. (I mean, I’m in grad school, so I could SAY I was an exchange student … heh.)

    • i think its totes okay , if u only want to learn the language without wanting to actually go to uni in korea afterward ,i think alot of ppl do it too ~
      if later you do so then well meet at snu this fall lololol

  25. For students studying at Korea University, the international student dorm as no rules. The down side is that it’s up on a hill and it’s a pain in the ass to walk up and down each day. If you apply for student housing and the International Department cannot accommodate you in their dorms they will provide you with an alternative and assist. You will received notification from the International Department a day or two after being told you were not assigned a room in their international dorm so do not panic.

    Anam-dong is where all the excitement is so if you want to live close to there, be prepared to not have a lot. Jongam-dong is more residential but it’s not far away.

    If you chose to not apply for housing with the international department, Anam Hostel is a cheap place to crash while you search for better places. It’s a bit of shithole but it has a bed and a door for cheap.

  26. I lived in a one-room and really loved it. It was cheaper than the university dorm and I had a really big room, my own bathroom, kitchen and washing machine. You have to be lucky to find a one-room as a foreigner, as some land lords don’t want foreigners (the risk of too much sexy time or everything getting dirty or too much partying is too high). But you can be lucky and then it is a great alternative. The main disadvantage is that you will probably have no internet and you have to do everything yourself (it’s fun understanding the korean rubbish system, buying your own cleaning equipment etc). But it’s cheap and if your lucky you’ll have some nice ajummas living close to you who’ll tell you everything you need (and really don’t need) to know

  27. Malmsteen Marie

    Thank you so much for this Leigh. I’m going to Korea next year to study and this is one of the things I’m worried about.


  28. Happy (belated) Birthday Martina!!

  29. it does sound like a prison, I thought dorms here in Toronto sucked…I take that back.

  30. Has anyone stayed at the international dorm or places in the area of Korea University I will be going there this fall to study

  31. Perfect timing on this! I’m going to be at Hongkuk University for a month this summer for their summer program. Is anyone aware of any rules for Globeedorm there? Also my big question is: What’s provided? I won’t be getting to the dorm until that evening, so I’m just wondering if there will already be bedding and such? Any specific recommendations on things I should pack.

  32. ** QUESTION**

    Hello! I have a question about business. I would like to know what requirements are needed to open a business in Korea if i am a foreigner. Do you have the resident visa or D8 visa? Could you tell us about your experience when you open your study? Thank you!!

    Greetings from Mexico! :D

  33. I lived in 서울시립대 intl dorm and it was amazing. Everyone got single rooms in a 4 room apartment type deal and we had no curfew and were allowed to have alcohol and the opposite gender in our rooms
    I also stayed in 울산대 intl dorm and they were similar to north american dorms. 2 to a room and the only rules we had were no boys and no alcohol. But I heard the non Intl dorm had more rules and were much more strict.

    • oooooh mmmyyyy goood is this real?? I’m going to study at UOS for a year and I applied for the intl dorm .. on the information pdf i got it says curfew from 1am to 5am I guess they don’t really enforce the rules? This is great to hear Leigh’s experience scared me. How was the campus and the surrounding?

      • Actually after you asked me that I talked to my friend who went there after me. I went in 2011 but I guess in 2012 because we were so rowdy (oops….) they changed the rules and put a curfew Into place :(( but honestly partying is so great you prob wont even be back by 5am haha

        • Oh thanks a lot then T.T haha yeah actually that curfew isn’t so bad, and yeah does a curfew mean I have to be back at 1 or they just don’t want any movement from 1 to 5 and can come back then? :/ Because if that’s the latter I’m 100% doing that I know partying in Seoul is great hehe

        • And thanks a lot for your reply and for asking your friend as well!

    • Do you know if they ever caught the couple who were having sex in one of the lounge? It was in the news during last summer… yes it was at Seoul City University.

  34. given that yesterday I was informed that I was going to be awarded with the scholarship for a grad degree… this was a really good coincidence

  35. Hi!! I’m curious about these language programs and I’d like to someone please tell me more about it. Actually I’m from Latinamerica and currently coursing my last year of College (Architecture), and for me to go and study Arch there sound a little bit hard, for all the technical terms, etc., so…these language programs sounds really great, I mean to learn korean IN Korea wow…and off course, I would like to know which is the degree that you get there once you’ve finished the program, how hard it’s get scolarships for it, and if it’s difficult to find a job being a foreigner. Thanks!

  36. Hiiii:) I really want to study in a Korean language school, does anyone know the minimum requirement for just a language program. I’m not bothered if it’s not a degree course I just would like to learn the language.^^ I’m from the UK and we don’t have high school diplomas here so I’ve only completed 11 years of education… is that enough to let me get onto one of there language courses? if anyone can help me it would be amazing!!

    • yoomiah

      To be a language student (at least where I go to) you only need to prove you have completed your education.
      It’s very easy to get in so don’t worry about it! Just apply and I’m sure there won’t be a problem!
      If you need to know more about anything just ask and I’d be glad to help!

  37. can someone explain this about korean rent websites? I kind of guess with the numbers but it still doesn’t add up. For example let’s say I want to rent a room from this website: http://www.officetel114.co.kr/article/index.asp?kind=oneroom
    on the price tag, weolse, it is stated it costs 500man / 35. What is this 35 for? or another example, with initial payment:
    jeonse is 10000man won, which is like 100,000 dollars? then we pay weolse and it is 8000man/10. I can’t understand that part. If you can help I’d really appreciate :)

  38. Happy Birthday Martina! ^^

  39. Happy Birthday Martina!

  40. Thank you so much Leigh for this video! I find it very helpful! :)
    I’m gonna do the “Korea as a Foreign Language Program” at Hankuk University. As far as I’ve seen the dorm regulations, it seems as bad as you’ve described: curfew, points, no cooking facilities, … Has anyone of you follow Nasties stayed there? I’d really love to know more about the university and the dorms!

  41. Hey there fellow nasties! I’m working on becoming a pediatrician, but I’ve only just started as I am a freshman in University. I really want to go to South Korea to learn more about the language but I don’t know what I can do to go there as a health major. Should I go there as an exchange student? Or study abroad? In my university, I think the only students allowed to study abroad are the ones that are business majors, and since I’m not a business major, I don’t think I’ll be able to go.

  42. Eryn Moragin

    Okay I have a TLDR-ish question for Martina: how do you get your hair so silky smooth and not frizzy and sticking up all over the place? I have tried a lot of things but no matter what I do my hair always looks dry or oily and is frizzy all over the place. Do you have any tips?

  43. I studied in Chungnam University in Daejeon and at Hanyang University in Seoul.

    Chungnam: No curfew, no rules about food or alcohol, very clean, very new, brought anyone back that I wanted, no girls allowed though.

    Hanyang: There was a curfew but it wasn’t enforced and if you were an international student they really didn’t give a shit about you. haha. All my Korean friends would be nervous about breaking the rules but all the international students didn’t care at all because the Korean staff (which is like old men and ladies) didn’t want to engage with the foreign students unless they had to.

    My best bet if you’re gonna live in a dormitory in Korea, is just do whatever you want and act dumb. “Oh I didn’t know!!!” they will just assume you are an ignorant foreigner which works well in your favor. haha. Also, the don’t let them know that you know a lot of Korean because that will back fire in your face because they will assume you should know better/you can read the signs or postings. haha.

    • I stayed in a dorm in Korea over ten years ago, and it was exactly the same. When we moved in, they didn’t even tell us the rules; maybe they knew foreign students wouldn’t follow them. Korean students told us, and I couldn’t believe how strict they were. If they got in trouble more than once, the university would call the student’s parents! The security guards clearly expected us to follow the rules, but there wasn’t much they could do. Around the security guards, we pretended not to know Korean. The only English they knew was “no” (which we heard a lot!). So we just played dumb. Some folks even made a huge tub of naughty punch and held a party.

      I don’t think international students have to worry too much about the rules–at least the silly ones. If you endangered safety, it might be different, but we are talking about the silly rules that imply you are a child. I think there is an awareness among university administration that most international students are accustomed to living freely, and the universities don’t want to scare off the foreigners since they make the school more appealing to potential students.

      And like a previous poster, I have to admit that the rule breaking was often fun and amusing. I didn’t really do anything different than I would have at home, but I felt like a rebel for doing them! The opportunity to feel like a rebel with few consequences? Pretty cool.

  44. happy burttthdai martina !!! peww pewww #confetti~
    LEIGHHH~!!!! where are you living right now and how much it cost ?
    im applying for SNU KLI for this fall session … does anyone in there ? any recomendation of good place to stay ?
    i was searching room at the internet but yea , never can be really sure if not seeing the room by my own eye
    how long did u guys think i need to come before the uni started? i planned about a week or so , is that enough for searching stuff and prep? thankkyou very muchhh <3 <3

  45. Akira Miyashi

    When I was in Chung Ang University last year for my summer program, I stayed in their dorm too but there wasn’t any restrictions on food or meeting area. There was a curfew but it wasn’t a problem for me cause I sleep early. :P We had a common room for meet ups and there’s computers to for you to use too. I had a roommate, 2 persons to a room. We had an attached bathroom. Overall, I would say the dorm is reaaaaallllyyyy nice… I really liked it there. :3

    • That is a clone of my room at Korea University CJ Int. house except the chair!

      • How was CJ house? I am suppose to be rooming in a double there next fall. Are the curfews and other rules strictly enforced?

        • Jocelyn Hubbard

          Yep that’s right. For foreigners the curfew isn’t enforced but need to swipe to get in and if you forgot/lose your card (between 10pm-7am), the sleeping ajjushi guard won’t be impressed with letting you in. Sound curfew at 10pm is enforced plus there’s room inspections(once a semester with three days notice, plenty of time to relocated the prohibited vodka!) Kitchens are cool too but competitive during peak times plus a free gym with bad opening hours. OMG there’s a mountain to climb to get up to the dorms! If i was going back to KU, i would live at snother place but it’s not too bad, just expensive and the nickname isCJail.

  46. I went for a summer school in Dongguk Uni and got to stay in the university dorm for a month too :D

    Having been in the dorm in UK for the past 4 years, I found the rules in Korean dorm super ridiculous! But they went easy on us since we were there for only a month so the point system rule didn’t apply to us. Though I understood the differences in culture, and I mean…it’s a very effective way of maintaining peace in the dormitory. but if I was to study in Korea I might have not chose to live in university dorm because I probably can’t stand it :P The student accommodationin England is normally self-catered so there was one time I had food poisoning during the time I was in Korea and was really craving something like porridge. If I was in the dorm at my uni I would’ve just cook some food, but since they have no kitchen I was only able to have like really bland ramyeon which wasn’t really appetising :P

    There were rules that are identical to what Leigh was talking about such as curfew. I think it’s at midnight. I went for a night out with my friends and we’d come back at like 2-3 am and we remember that the security were not so happy that we woke him up from his sleep (sorry :P)

    but this place only put 2 students per room which I found it quite alright. And it came equipped with mini-fridge, air-conditioning, and there’s family mart right at the exit of the dorm as well as the cafeteria which serves very nice food so I was happy throughout my stay. I must say that in terms of quality it was VERY good (compare to the dorms back at my uni that must have been built for 20-30 odd years) and it was cheap too! but I guess the rules are the price you pay for those nice rooms isn’t it.

  47. This post is absolutely useful. I am currently in my last year in high school, been dreaming of going to Yonsei and settling down in Korea for at least 3-4 years after studying there (if possible) to get a job related to media (like you guys). But I had some trouble finding out about the living expenses of the homestays, dorms and what not.

    So I went to Korea for 72 hours back in December and lived in Beewon Guesthouse. The owners can speak little English and Chinese, good if you can speak both and a little Korean, you will be absolutely cool with them. They are nice people. The guesthouse is situated halfway between Jongno 3 Ga and Anguk, although Anguk’s like 10metres closer. I took the Ondol room with another roomie, for about 50,000won a night (for 2 people). There is no bed, but many blankets and mattresses for you. There’s tv, your own bathroom, the heater is really comfy. No deposits needed. For every additional person, you add 15,000won.

    I would say it’s a pretty good deal while finding a homestay for university so do head over there if there’s a need to! ^^ You can check out their website right here: http://www.beewonguesthouse.com/en/room/room.php

    In anycase, thanks Leigh for the wonderful introduction and Korean help sentences! ABSOLUTELY THANKFUL ^___^

  48. Does someone knows about some websites that we could find near Ewha and Hongik university? any recommendation?

  49. So i am possibly going back to uni next year and my family has agreed that i can study overseas in korea, the uni courses i will be applying for are international studies and asian studies. If anyone knows which universities in korea offer these courses please let me know :) i really want to attend one that has an easy going dorm life, i wont do well living in a strict dorm

  50. This was all soooo helpful! I’ve been wanting to study Korean in Seoul, but the idea of dorms made me question going anymore. This made me feel so much better! I do have a question though, how much are the monthly rents for these homestays or one rooms?

  51. I’m currently staying in a “one room” near the Yonsei University and I must say that it took me a lot of LUCK to find this place XD Actually, there -are- a lot of ways to find the best place for you, but of course it’s depending on how much budget you have and if you are claustrophobic or not (seriously..i’m not claustrophobic…but I looked at some goshiwons and felt like I’m gonna be after finishing my first term… >< ) but the best thing is to either let a korean help you talk to a realtor (if you have a bit more of a budget or if you are coming with a friend) because they have pretty good rooms, or just take 3 days to roam around the neighborhood of your university and visit every single goshiwon/goshitel/oneroom/hasukjib which you find attractive. There are 2-3 websites in english where people would put on offers of vacant rooms (like airbnb or goshipages), but I would really just use those to have some ideas on where to look for, because I would never trust those pictures XD *wideanglelensescough*
    I don't know if it's just me though, but I think staying off campus can even be cheaper (and more convenient) than staying in a dorm?

  52. Happy birthday Martina !!!

  53. Heyo!
    Happy belated birthday Martina! Stay gorgeous!

    Anyways, I’m moving to Seoul this Sept to study at SNU. Any recommendation about affordable oneroom near SNU?
    Thanks thanks!

  54. What good timing! I just got the letter that I didn’t get into the SNU dorms and started looking for alternates. I found a homestay program they linked me to in the rejection letter that seems okay. (Its hard to tell though because it looks like their English is just a Korean site put through Google translate so I can’t be sure about really specific things like whether the price is per month or a one time fee…) Goshwon sound like a good option, but homestay would let me practice Korean 24/7 so I like that advantage.

    • Are you going to SNU this summer? I’m thinking about attending in the fall — just out of curiosity, are you going because you want to go to university in Korea, or are you going just to learn the language?

      • Yep I’m going this summer. I’m going because I need to take year 4 Korean language for my Korean major, but my school doesnt offer it over the summer. My program requires a full year abroad study/interneship in Korea, so I have to be able to complete all the course work 1 year early, so that mostly why I’m going. I have to get all my coursework done next year and I need to be in level five to start that. :)

  55. I’ll be going to SNU (Seoul National University) this September, so it would be great to get to know some people already going to Korea at the same time so we could meet up and stuff! Or atleast help each other out while we’re there. I’m so excited to go, but I’m a little worried about living arrangements; mainly just the number of people in each dorm room xD

    • Hi! Are you going as an exchange student, or for their language program? I’m thinking about going, but I’m a little nervous about a) the uncertainty of the living situation and b) the fact that I really just want to study the language, and not actually attend school. I don’t know if that’s totally crazy or not (do people do these language programs to become fluent in Korean, or are they purely for getting you fluent enough to handle uni out there, do you know?)

      If I did go, I’d be going this September to SNU as well!

  56. Leigh’s dorm sounds pretty similar to what I am living in now, accept for the point system, the alcohol/food ban. I live in Japan currently as an exchange student. I live in a dorm that also has a 12 pm curfew. Males aren’t allowed on the female floor and vice versa. I also can’t show my room to my friends. I wouldn’t consider the price cheap, but since I am living in Tokyo I suppose I can’t avoid that. Unfortunately, I have to commute daily 45 mins to class and 45 mins back home. Everyone breaks curfew here. The only way the managers would know that we are/are not home is with the markers that they have by the mailboxes. When we come in we mark that we are “in”. It’s just too easy to leave the marker as “in” and voila you can pretty much do as you please. We are allowed to have alcohol in our rooms. No alcohol in the common room where food is served, for some reason. Fridges are provided and no “cleanliness” checks. Thank god, because my room is quite a mess right now :) Oh, and I we each have a private bathroom/toilet ! Partially why I choose this dorm over others.

  57. Does or did somebody study at HANKUK (International Univ. of Foreign Languages) in Seoul and might know something about dorm-life there?


    • Hey. I also wanto to know about HUFS but it seems to be less information about it than other universities. I do know that in the Globedorm there is a curfew (I believe it is 1am), you have to report if you’re staying out and you have 5 stay-outs a month (though they don’t count weekends). There is also a point system.

      Happy B-day Martina. Lot’s of love from us nasties in Venezuela.

  58. I’m living in Seoul now and studying at the same language school as Leigh did. I’ve been here almost 6 months now. At first, I lived in a Goshiwon for about a week before I decided that it was not for me. In general I’m not really a shy person so running into people in the kitchen didn’t always bother me, however, I am somewhat an introvert who needs a certain amount of privacy and alone-time in order to function. Especially when it comes to cooking, showering, and so on. So sometimes I’d feel a bit uncomfortable having to cook amongst strangers. Maybe that’s just me?
    In the Goshiwon where I stayed, there was a shared kitchen, and ONE shared shower between like 10 people or so? The shower bothered me the most.You never knew when it was occupied or not, so I’d just have to walk in and out of my room, checking whether someone was in there. For me, Goshiwon life was therefore kind of uncomfortable and even gave me nigthmares. I’d imagine if I had my own shower or at least toilet in my room, I wouldn’t have minded as much.
    Also, I was not able to have guests over because of the size of the room. A majority of my friends are also guys, and bringing the opposite gender over is usually prohibited at Goshiwons as far as I know?
    So if someone is thinking of coming to Korea, and is an “introvert” like me, I’d recommed something like an One-room. I’m living in an one-room now, and find it way more comfortable to be able to bring my guy-friends (and girl friends) over, cook in my own space, and shower whenever I’m smelly haha. :D

    • Marialejandra Tapia Sardá

      I think we are the same!! hahaha
      But I’m curious as to how much you pay for that room?

      Is it cheap?

      Can I work to pay for it?

      I’m sorry that I have so many questions but I’m really interested! Thanks!!

  59. Happy Birthday Martina! Bonne Fete from Canada!
    This was a really interesting video/post. I’m working on moving to Toronto from Windsor, and I have a bit of the ‘well how much does it cost to live here’ bug… so I’ve been searching the most random cities just to feed my house hunting appetite. (Sadly I am not very effective with my actually apartment searching… oops!)

  60. Does anyone have any tips on how to apply for a university in korea?

    • Shay

      For exchange or to apply directly as an international student?

      • directly as an international student.

        • Shay

          Ahh, sorry I can’t help you there. I’m sure somebody browsing the comments will be able to help though!

        • I take it you already know what you want to study and where? If you do, just start to contact as many people as possible. (and tell everybody you know of your plans, someone is bound to know something). That is how I got my internship at Yonsei Ecological Engeneering Lab. :)

          My experience with applying for anything: write a lot of emails. (and keep showing up/writing mails… Don’t give people time to forget you).

        • I see okay thank you for your advice :) but i thought you have to get like a level 3 at TOPIK or something then you’ll be able to apply? :/

        • Which uni/school do you want to go? and where do you come from. If you need a level 3 at TOPIK you could just go get that. It might take some studying (for me maybe a lot, dang you grammer). It is always a good investment in yourself :) . I’m dutch, and I think we have some places where you could take those tests.

        • Do you have any idea what are some universities that has a more international focus?

        • I can probably name some (Yonsei, Ehwa, Seoul(?) ), but that really isn’t what you want to know. What do you want to study? (and how much money do you have).

          Yonsei does claim te be an international university, but then their Underwood College introduction/promotional vid was in korean (JYP actually appeared) and not subbed. That was a little studpid…

          So, what do you want to study?

        • Hmm I was thinking about Psychology… Are universities for foreigners relatively expensive there or?

        • expensive? depends, for me it is. In the Netherlands tuition is very cheap (1800 a year, and students get a monthly allowance ) So studying abroad for me is expensive :) But I think foreigners always pay more than natives.

          But these things are easily found on the internet. So, no offense, but you need to figure out what you want. If you know what you want, go find the best curriculum (wikipedia has a nice list with all the korean universities), and see what is nescesary for application.
          Right now I have the feeling that you have not really thought this through (or not enough). I mean, you’re thinking about psychology, in other words, you’re not sure about one of the broadest fields in science. Do you want to treat people? Do you want to do research. Do you like the biology side more (that would be neuropsychology which=AWSOME). Considering these factors, my advice would be find a good uni in your own country, finish a year or 2 and then, when you know what you exactly want, go look for an exchange program. Uni’s generally have a lot of exchange programs.

  61. QUESTION! Does anyone have an opinion on studying abroad in Korea vs Japan? + also which one is more vegetarian/vegan friendly? I’d be at Yonsei if I went with Korea and I don’t know where I’d go for Japan… I’m tempted to just go to London and spend all my time in museums, but I have a minor and concentration in Asian Studies. I’ve heard that Japan isn’t at all vegan friendly. Is Korea any better about not putting fish in everything ever? I’m lost. Sorry thanks.

    • Shay

      Simon and Martina have made some videos talking about the availability of vegan food in Korea and it doesn’t seem particularly easy to find. It is possible though, it would seem. I’d suggest just typing “eatyourkimchi vegan” into YouTube and going through what comes up. I’d link you to specific things, but it’s the middle of the night and I have something due tomorrow.

    • Japan is generally not vegan/vegetarian friendly. I think in most broths they sneak in fish, but that’s just my impression from the food I’ve eaten while studying here. My vegetarian friend gave up being vegetarian until she goes back home. :/

  62. Happy Bday Martina! :)

    just fyi, 입사 (X) 이사 (0)
    입사 means getting into a company/organization :)

  63. Does anyone have any information about the international student dorms at Dongguk University? I’ll be going to Seoul in the fall and would really appreciate some more information about rules and such in the dorm! Thanks!

  64. What if you have a friend in Korea and they let you stay with them?? I want to try the short-term program first to try it out. Also did you have to pay for your own plane ticket there when you first started and then was reimbursed or not?


    • Pretty sure you have to buy your own plane tickets to go to Univ out there. However, if you are going to teach you buy it and the school reimburses you. I’m having the same idea as you though!

    • Shay

      I’m not sure about all schools, but I know when applying for exchange at Ewha there’s a section for applying for residence, and if you don’t require residence they just want you to give them the address you’re staying at so they know you have accommodations or can contact you or whatever else they would need that for. It shouldn’t be a problem for you to stay with a friend – there’s no requirement that you stay in residence.

  65. hahahahahahaha ….

    • And actually we even emptied an extinguisher in the elevator the last semester (thanks to too much makju i guess)… nobody got expelled so far ^^”

      Seems they don’t want to scare foreign student, they want to keep us as much as possible for showing that the Uni is an open door to the international… I already get accepted for my master degree, in 2 year, i don’t even have my first graduation yet (for US this is Bachelor degree right ? ). (scholarship and free dorm and food … cool isn’t it?! )

    • what university and campus are you at?? im trying to decide where to apply for when i start studying again next year

      • I’m in Chungnam National University :-) in Deajeon.

        But if you can choose, try to find something in Seoul, the city is way much more open minded, and less boring than Daejeon :-*

  66. I need to study in Korea. I need to make this happen. My life would be complete.

    • Hehe. That’s what I thought, too, but once you get a small taste you just want more. Still, you should do it! To quote the movie Up: Adventure is out there!

  67. Leigh’s dorm had so many rules! Not all dorms are like this, though. When I was an exchange student at Korea University, I lived in an international student dorm which had barely any rules. There was no curfew, no house points/demerit system, no checking in or out guests or yourself, and you didn’t have to ask to stay out during the night. While floors and elevators were gender segregated, there were plenty of common areas to meet with friends or people of the opposite sex. As long as you weren’t sleeping on the couches in those areas at night, you wouldn’t get kicked out.

    I had friends that lived in the non-international student dorms at KU and those dorms did have curfews; however, I’m pretty sure the curfew policy was not nearly so strict as the one Leigh describes. They didn’t have to tell anyone they would be out for the whole night, and they couldn’t be evicted for losing too many points. If they missed curfew, they simply had to wait for the dorm to open back up again at 5 AM.

    • A non-international student dorm, I assume you mean Frontier House? That’s all that’s left now so if I went dorms it would have to be there.

      I’m not looking forward to having a roommate, no kitchen, curfews etc. I’d rather have a smaller place all to myself .

      I was going to go with a goshiwon from somewhere like here http://goshipages.com/ , but Leigh said not to arrange it beforehand? I’d feel a lot better if I arranged something beforehand, it’s only 6 weeks, surely it cant be so bad it’s unliveable?

      • My friend did live in Frontier House since it’s the biggest, but there are at least 2-3 other dorms that are mostly regular students. Near KU, the most popular places are Allive and Rachel Livingtel. Guest House just opened up, too, and it’s basically right next to Rachel. My friends lived in Guest House and it was pretty nice. Anam Hostel is super close to campus, but it’s pretty horrible.

        Honestly, I think you should arrange something before coming to Korea. I would feel uncomfortable if I showed up in a foreign country where I couldn’t speak the language and then expected to house hunt right when I get there. I would be too worried about going out on my own, getting food, etc.

        You should check out this Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/2417uu/student_accommodation_for_korea_university/

        I am user leetaemin; I wrote quite a lot about all the goshiwons! The only thing thing I don’t recommend in that thread is the top comment that says to use Ai Travellers Korea – that place is super overpriced and it’s not very close to campus.

  68. These dorms sound soooo much better than the ones I stayed at in China. In China, I lived in a legit Chinese dorm. Four people in a room and a desk below the bed, that was it. Also, the bathrooms were unclean and the cleaning ladies never did their job so we had an outbreak of the swine flue.
    The second time was better, but we did have curfew. If you came in too late they would lock the gate. And then you were instructed to yell for the guard to come open the gate for you.
    I am going to Yonsei this summer and I am more worried about the type of bathrooms they have in their dorms. I am also worried about how updated their kitchen and washer is. If someone could tell me that that would be great. I will be living at the Global House.

  69. First of all … to martina; HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARTINA! <3 < Please! if someone could help me with this I would appreciate it a lot ! I love art and the Korean culture if you don't believe me haha feel free to check my fb page and my Instagram ,,, you will see how much I love to paint <3 ( FB; Marianela's Art) ( Instagram; Nelioirdaz_illustration )

    thank youuuu <3

  70. Happy birthday Martina! May it be sparkly and filled with puppies xx

  71. Watch one episode of the Korean Drama ‘Reply 1994′ to get an idea of old school student home-stay life.

  72. Yaaay Happy Birthday Martina! And thanks so much Leigh for imparting your much needed wisdom upon us hopefuls!

  73. Happy birthday, Martina!!!

    I love the timing of this particular tldr because I am studying abroad at Yonsei in the summer and fall, first at the Yonsei International Summer School then as an exchange student in the Fall.

    I’m applying to stay in a dorm for both summer and fall, but I also want to experience a homestay. My biggest thing is I want to make friends there not just hang out with other international students (but I’m not excluding them either!). One of my friends stayed at a particular homestay and as a result, did not make many friends at school because of proximity/convenience.

    I don’t want that to happen, but if there are other students living in the homestay like Leigh wrote in the blog post, then that should be okay? My other friend also is going back to Yonsei and is getting an apartment (and I could potentially room with her). Do you guys have any advice for the best way to stay on/off campus and still meet new people and make friends?

    • I studied abroad last fall at Korea University. Do not go to Korea with the mindset that you only want to make Korean friends and that being with other international students is less important!

      Here’s the thing: unless you’re already fluent in Korean, you will find it extremely difficult to make lots of Korean friends by yourself. I assume you’re taking classes in English and a Korean language course. Your language course will be all international/exchange students. Your classes taught in English will probably have Korean students (mine were actually mostly Korean), but even so, Korean students are scared to talk to you in English. Most of them can’t speak English fluently, and they’re embarrassed to mess up in front of better English speakers. Therefore, it will probably be difficult to befriend many of them. Even my international student friends who had been there for multiple semesters and speak decent Korean found it difficult to get to know them.

      You’re going to be around the international students a lot. That’s not a bad thing; it’s fun exploring a new country and culture with somebody else who doesn’t know it. One of my closest friends is another exchange student I met there; we were not even close to being fluent in Korean, but figuring out our own way in the country was fun.

      One last anecdote: There was a girl in my study abroad program who came to Korea with the intention of becoming friends with only Korean people. At first she only tried hanging out with the gyopo students in our group and she ignored everyone else. She hit on every Korean guy that talked to her, and she was generally just super obnoxious and the definition of an annoying American. The gyopos hated her and she had alienated the rest of the international students, so no one wanted to hang out with her. The only people that would hang out with her were non-native English speaking exchange students (like from Spain, Mexico, etc) who didn’t bother to listen to her most of the time. You’re probably not nearly as annoying as she was, but the sentiment is the same: if you decide that only Koreans are worthy of most of your time, you’ll find yourself alone a lot.

      My advice: go to Korea and be friends with people you want to be friends with, and not because they’re Korean.

      • Shay

        I understand the mindset behind it because I know I’m personally wary about only making friends with other international students as a way of getting out of having to use my Korean. Often people go abroad and never actually learn the language or experience the culture because they manage to stay in a safe bubble of tourist areas, fellow travellers/students, and diaspora communities.

        I think you should try to strike a balance. Try to make friends with both international students and Korean students because international students are sharing a similar experience with you and you can probably relate well, but Korean students can teach you, widen your perspectives, and also just be generally good friends as well. Balance is key though. Don’t block out other international students for the sake of immersion and don’t hide from Korea in a bubble of international students.

        • I definitely agree that a good balance between Korean and international friends is a good way to go. But that can be quite hard, realistically, if you don’t speak Korean and they don’t speak English well. My advice is to join student groups that cater to both regular and international students. Those will be the Korean students who want to make international friends and are more open to speaking English.

          I think the problem that some international students have is hanging out with too many other international students at once. Having a group of 4-5 or more international students with you is fun, but generally there’s one good Korean speaker in that group and then the entire group becomes self-sufficient. If you hang out with 1-2 other students at a time, and none of you speak Korean well, it forces you to interact with the public and figure stuff out.

    • I did an exchange at Yonsei a couple of years back and it was the best time of my life! Like someone mentioned, it is rather difficult to make lots of korean friends if you’re not fluent in korean but its not impossible because at yonsei there are heaps of people that speak fluent english. For a start, there will be a mentors club that pairs the international students with their local koreans. If you get a good buddy and have decent korean, you can hang out with their friends. Also, don’t forget to make lots on international friends cause most of my close korean friends are actually friends of my international friends from the dorm. Basically, the wider your social circle, the higher the likelihood of making korean friends. Having said that, the lifestyles of the local koreans vs the international students are very different. The international students are there more to experience the culture and have heaps of fun whereas the koreans focus more on their studies as grades means everything to them. You will also find taking a english class that’s not a korean culture related class can help u make korean friends. I took a marketing unit taught in english and most of my class were koreans. Although its not like u get to make friends with all of them, there will be group projects that give u the opportunity to know them better. Lastly, I find that the koreans are always very busy so most of the people I hang out with are usually the international students. Having said that, it did not compromise my fun in korea and i still made awesome korean friends :) All the best to you!

  74. Ok I hope someone responds to this. I am not in college yet (going to be a senior next year woot woot!) and i had some questions

    1 i have not decided if i will get a minor in Korean yet, so i was wondering if i can participate in a language program and it not be my minor.

    2 i was also wondering if any of you guys knew of colleges that offered a korean minor/language program and how that went for you.
    3 I am also worried about the costs. are there any scholarships to study Korean that you know of that might pay most or all of the costs?


    • 1) By language program do you mean study abroad type of language intensive? If so, then I believe you can. Of course, it might be more convenient if you were to minor/major in a language to get into the study abroad program, but that’s up to the program. Also if you want to get credit for the program then you should research the program in the schools.
      2) I’m at the University of Maryland and minoring in Korean. There’s no Korean major, but the minor is not bad. There’s four semesters of Korean Language at 3 credits each and then elective courses. I am going abroad to Yonsei to fulfill my minor and certificate requirements. Again, if you want to major/minor in a language, go for it! Just look up the programs in the colleges you’re interested in. It’s all probably on their website. You can even email them if you like!
      3) There are plenty of scholarships. Some you can google, some come with the program and you can apply for them, and most you can find through school/college. The language departments and scholarship/education abroad departments should provide you with options and resources. I’m on the lookout for scholarships as well :) so school is probably the first place to look. And also ask the study abroad advisors whom can point you in the right direction. :)

      • Thank you! :D

        Yes I did mean the study abroad program because really want to come to Korea. Do you know if with a minor you can be a translator? what kinds of things can you do with a korean minor?

        Sorry for all of the questions, its just that I’m really curious!

        • You can’t really do much with a Korean minor. In fact, most minors (and many majors) are pretty useless in translating to real world jobs. If you want to be a translator, you’ll have to be completely fluent in Korean, something that might not happen with a minor depending on your school’s specific requirements. You’ll have to understand all the nuances of the Korean language, idioms, etc. Taking Korean literature classes would definitely be required. Finding a current Korean-to-other language translator to mentor you would probably be the best.

          Also, make sure you’re not mixing up translation with interpreting. Translation deals with written works. Interpreting deals with spoken language, like when a K-pop group comes to the US and they have a Korean and English speaker to interpret what they say into English. Kevin, Eli, and AJ interpret in English what Hoon, Soohyun, and Kiseop say in Korean.

    • 1.) Hey, it depends on what college you go to. But, most of the time, you can get a major or minor in the language you want. Preferably, most bigger schools will have a bigger selection on language choices.
      2.) Ohio State University has a major and minor for not only Korean language, but also Korean culture. Also, if you had the money Hawaii is offering an intense language study for Korean. However, this is only what I heard.
      3.) Because Korean is still rare of a language to study, I am sure you can get independent scholarships and university/department scholarships that would pay.
      Also, even if you don’t go to a school that offers Korean language you can still apply for summer intensive programs, certain ones will actually pay for your whole trip expenses. These programs will let you “boost” your language level by a year in a short amount of time.

  75. hello people in the comment section!! I’m a freshman university student in Ewha Univ. (I’m Korean) I urgently need your help. One of the classes I take is called 나눔리더십 (Sharing and Leadership) and currently we are doing a teamwork project. Our group’s theme is to gather 7 foreign exchange students and meet every thursday (after 7th period) and do exciting activies to share diverse cultural activities and food!! We haven’t choose what to do exactly because our professor wanted us to ask foreign students about what you guys want to do during our meeting. Our goal is to gather 7 foreign students(especially Ewha Students!!!) by next wensday and start our progect the day after. If you are interested in our project please send me an email. Thank you my email is [email protected]

    • You should check if Ewha has a program that pairs regular Korean students with international students, like 연대 and 고대 do. The program at 고대 is called KUBA, and it pairs one regular Korean student with 4-5 international students. They have events for the groups, and this will be the place to find lots of international students.

    • Shay

      I wish I was already there, but I won’t be until September. If you ask the international office to send out a message to exchange students they might be willing to help! They might say no, but it would be worth a try.

      Also, as I mentioned before, I’m coming to Ewha in September. It would be nice to already know someone there =) I’m Shay!

      (If you don’t respond to this then I’m totally having my friendship publicly rejected…)

  76. what software do you use for videos? editing as well as graphics? is it adobe after effects or flash?

  77. which dorm did you stay at ewha? because I’m going to be staying at the international house and I’m worried about the strict rules, on their website it doesn’t say that they have a curfew or anything><

  78. I’m studying abroad in the Fall at Yonsei University. Does anyone have any inside information on how it is to live in the dorms?

    • what sort of inside info are you looking for? if you’re staying at sk, it’s not strict like what leigh talks about in the video. different genders have different floors and the opposite sex is not allowed on the others floor but you can always hang in the lobby. there is no curfew as well and all my friends party out late all the time. there is a common study room and tvroom/mini cooking area on each floor if i remember correctly. the 24hr mart linked to the dorm will be your best friend :)

  79. Kate Plogstedt

    If you are studying abroad through a university you are attending in the states will they make you stay in a dorm or will you get the option of maybe a homestay? Also if anyone has stayed in a homestay, what are the pros and cons of it?


    Thank you so much for all this info !
    I will most likely be attending Ewha University for their languag program. Anyone else going to Korea in September ?
    I know absolutely no one, and it would be great to make friends before I actually leave haha. I’m not gonna lie, I’m a little scared about moving to Korea but also very excited.

    • Shay

      I’m going to be at Ewha in September!! Hi =)

      I understand. I’m completely terrified, but also so excited.

      • Have you already applied for the program? I’m planning on attending the language program starting this fall term, but the online registration just isn’t working, after successfully registering and then logging in, I get a blank page. I’ve e-mailed them, but so far haven’t gotten a response.

        • Shay

          I’m still in the process of doing the application just to go to Ewha (it’s a formality because I’ve already been accepted through my home institution – I’ll be on exchange), and it’s not quite done, so I’m not having problems like that just yet. If I don’t face problems with that first application, once I’m fully applied to Ewha I’ll apply to the language program.

          I’m sure you have tried these things already, but in case you didn’t think of one of them, have you tried updating your browser/another browser/another computer? I’ll let you know what happens when I try to apply! Keep me updated if you get a response? Good luck!

        • Oh I see, your situation is a bit different from mine then.

          Yeah, I’ve actually tried with 3 different computers now (a total of 4 different browsers) and once with the help of a nerd friend (no insult intended)..he was just as confused as I was. I’m starting to fear it has something to do with the infamous Active X that Simon and Martina discussed earlier, or at least something similar. Oooh Korea, why you make internet so difficult.

          Anyway, thanks for the reply, I’ll let you know if I get a response email! :)

      • OMG Hi !!
        That’s great news, are you going for the language program or are you transferring ?
        Hahaha Yeah, I’m just worried about the not knowing anybody in Korea … I’m gonna feel like such a loner lol

        • Shay

          I’m going as an exchange student for a semester =) Ideally I want to take the “academic Korean program” which is basically all Korean for a semester, sort of like the intensive program but I think they’re separate.
          But yeah, I’ll be there! So now you’ll know me! Hi, I’m Shay xD

  81. I actually am about to go study abroad at Yonsei and I casually went to go check out the dorm regulations. I would hate for there to actually be a certain time I have to be back to the dorm! Anyone here who went to Yonsei have any tricks, tips or even heads up that I should know before I go?!?

    • I’m currently studying at Yonsei as a study-abroad student. You don’t have to worry about curfews for the dorms here. Yonsei has 3 types of dorms but foreigners are only allowed to apply for 2 of them, SK Global and International House.. There are no curfews for those 2 dorms at all. The Mu-ak dorms have a curfew but they only allow Koreans to apply for Mu-ak.

      • Really! Ok good because I would feel slightly odd to have a curfew at my age! Any other tips for a new student?

        • Hmm… Personally, I feel like I-House is more homely, mainly because everyone has to share the toilets and the kitchen with the fridges so it’s easier to mix around with people and make new friends. SK Global is more private because we have our own toilets and if you’re in a single room you have a mini-fridge in your room as well. I-House has stovetops in the lounge on every floor vs SK global lounges with just a microwave, the kitchen is only at B3. SK Global has a gym, a printing room and sufficient washing machines and dryers but well… you can walk over from I-House through the connecting corridor to use those facilities as well. Um… I’m not really sure what kind of information you want (food/transport etc) so if you need more information just drop me another comment :)

        • lol brings back memories of both. I didn’t know the difference between the two so I just signed up for I-House… biggest mistake. SK was so much better~

        • I’ve stayed in a Goshiwon before and I don’t particularly recommend it because it’s just too small to live in for long periods especially since the goshiwons in Sinchon aren’t that much cheaper than I-House dorms. DON’T be deceived by the pictures on Goshiwon websites because the actual rooms are way way way smaller than that haha. I had no space to put my luggage and had to leave it in my closet which was too small as well so I couldn’t close the closet door. So yup, really recommend applying for the school dorms if you can :)

    • Hey I’m going to be studying abroad at Yonsei as well! Perfect timing for this tl;dr! :)

      • Oh when are you going? : > I know right! I saw it on facebook and knew right there and then that I had to watch it! I always love how helpful and informative the videos are! I really wish Leigh would make some more videos for international students!!

    • Hey Christy! I’m Ariel, I’m going to Yonsei this summer for an exchange program! I’ll be staying at I-house. Will you be there for the summer? (Or any other Nasties? We should meet up!)

    • Hopefully I will see you guys around! I’ll only be there for the fall semester, because that’s all my home institution would work with me on…

  82. Happy Birthday Martina ^^

    You have no idea how crazy this post was because I was just looking at the Ehwa’s homepage and was about to talk to my mom about allowing me to transfer. I want to do the intensive language program and then do a degree. I was curious about the home-stay. Leigh, Are home-stays more expensive? You said the lady who owns it cooks for you? Like, is it basically like a giant house where there are several foreign exchange students living at the same time? I am considering doing the home-stay thing, but I am kinda of nervous doing it because I cant read or speak Korean so the questions you posted to ask the lady… I have no idea how to say. Does Ewha offer like a buddy thing where they will help you with questions and help you do things because if that is so, I really need one xD

    • I’m pretty sure they have those thing as well as my school does. I’ve never lived in such place, but consider home stays in America. How they do?

    • Shay

      I don’t know anything about home stays, but I know Ewha does offer a buddy system arrangement with a Korean student for EXCHANGE students. I’m not sure if it’s available to international students there on their own, whether at the university or in the language program. I do know it’s a system that they have available though, so it might apply to all international students. You might be able to request it if it’s not offered upfront.

      • I guess I will have to call and find out myself for sure then ^^ Thank you.

      • I read that it doesn’t guaranty that you will get in to the dorm ;S and whats the difference between international dorm and exchange student dorm?

        • Shay

          Being an exchange student doesn’t guarantee you get into a dorm, no, but I think if you don’t get in they offer guidance about finding a place. I might be wrong, but I think I read that somewhere. I’m pretty sure the international dorm is the same as the exchange student dorm because exchange students stay in the international dorm.

    • Hi there ! I spent two years in Seoul and I did home stay for a year so I may able to answer some of your questions :D

      Mine was in Sinchon, so it was well located as I was studying Korean in Yonsei (it was actually in the motel area right behind the main street, there were a bunch of homestays there) and I paid 350,000 won each month, which is more expensive than a goshiwon but hey, free delicious food and super nice ajumma. I was lucky cause as I said my ajumma was really nice, as well as a great cook, and allowed us to eat whenever we wanted (usually the breakfast and dinner are included, but no lunch) and spontaneously brought me fruit snacks to my room. There were also always side dishes in the fridge and rice in the rice cooker outside eating time.

      I was the only foreign student, every one else was Korean, and the ajumma lived there with her family too, in a room at the back of the place, but I know some actually don’t so it will only be you and the other students ! You also have both girls only homestays and mixed homestays. You have your own room and there is a shared bathroom with a washing machine, but like goshiwons, you should definitely go there in person to check if the place is nice, cause I know for a fact that there were also not so great homestays which were dirty, dimlit and smelled of mold.

      Concerning Korean, I think you should also learn how to read it before you go there, not just for accomodation but for your everyday life in Korea, which will definitely be easier if you know how to read hangeul !

      I hope this helped a bit, let me know if you have some more questions :D

    • Jean-vincent Delli Zotti

      Hi there, I spent a semester as an exchange student in Ewha between september and december 2013. I was living in the international dorms. There are two major dorms, one is brand new and is name international house 2. It is very comfy an clean but the kitchen on each floor is quite limited with just a sink and hot/cold water dispenser. You have several lobbies to watch tv or meet your friends. The other dorm is international house 1 (surprising isn’t it ?) and is a bit older. It is certainly older but the facilities are very nice and you got a nice and big kitchen to cook and eat.

      Both the dorms are linked to the third (graduate dorms) by a huuuuge basement where you got study rooms, computer rooms, a nice and a FREE gym.

      The good thing is there are not that much rules in Ewha dorms. Maybe because it’s mostly girls (I’m a guy). There is no curfew. You can get out and in at anytime. Only very late at the night the back door is closed so you have to go through the front door but that’s like only a 3 min walk. The only rule is no people who are not from the dorm in your room. You can meet them in the lobby or event rent them a room in the dorm for a night or two. Frankly i did brought people to the room one or two times and that’s ok because whether there is no guard whether he is asleep :)

      When it comes to budget, EWHA dorms are not that expensive I think, I paid about 1000 € for 4 month of housing (double room, singles are available but a bit more expensive like 100€ more per month) . There is a very cheap cafeteria next to the building. It’s not very fancy but the food is good and cheap. For fancier meals just go the “valley” where you’ll find fancier but more expensive places.

      As an exchange student i got a very cool buddy. She answered many of my questions and organized many events and dinners with me other exchange students and others buddies.

      If you want to take an actual look of a room, watch this video I made when I arrived there in september. It’s my room in the international building 2 (double room) with my magnificent french comment on top of that ^^.



  84. Happy birthday Martina!
    Thanks for the advice Leigh. Even though it’s intended for international students, I found some of this information useful since I’ll be visiting next year. I want to stay at one of the places you mentioned to lower my cost, so I can stay longer. This is definitely useful. Thanks!

  85. CaptainShaw27

    The timing on this is magical! ^_^
    My name is Shawnie and I am making plans to take the intensive language program at Ewha. I have been wanting to ask more questions and this is helping me so much. Thank you!
    I plan to start with the language program and then possibly foreign enroll. Turns out my plan was similar to Leigh’s! Cool! :)

    I am curious, Leigh. Is there a certain process that you went through to get student loans or financial aid for either the intensive program, or for your current schooling? I have so many questions, but this one plagues me at the moment.

    Thanks for keeping me laughing. I am hoping to come sometime in the next year and the more info I can get the better. Hopefully I will get to meet you all and start my adventure soon! ;)

    Happy Birthday, Martina! ^^ I hope your next year is very blessed!

    • Shay

      When are you going?! I’ll be at Ewha in September and I don’t know anyone else who will be there!

      • CaptainShaw27

        Well, my sister is getting married in June and a friend in August. I want to be there by a year. I would love to be there in the fall, but I need to get as much info as I can :) If I can figure out how to finance it and get it all planned then I might be able to go sooner.
        Are you taking the intensive program?

        • Shay

          Well if you can let me know! As of right now I’m gonna be all alone and that sounds like a terrible mixture of scary and sad…
          I want to, but I’m still working things out with my home institution over whether it’s possible/will count for credits (I’ll be on exchange). Even if I’m not in the intensive program I want to do the “academic Korean” program which I think is still run through the ELC.

        • CaptainShaw27

          I agree. That is what I have been worried about too. It would be so nice to know someone. :) The idea of going alone is sad.
          I’m not sure how the intensive program would translate school-wise. Are you planning to take other classes once you finish the language portion?

        • Shay

          I’ll only be there for the semester, so unfortunately I won’t be taking any other courses, no. Hopefully I’ll go back to my school, take another Korean course, and then wait out my last year there before returning to Korea. I’d love to stay as a student there, but I need to finish the degree I’m working on first =(

        • CaptainShaw27

          Aw, bummer. Well, it would still be cool to go at a similar time. :)
          I will make sure to let you know as my plan unfolds. My goal is to foreign enroll after I take the intensive language course.

        • CaptainShaw27

          I don’t think there is a way for me to do the fall semester starting september 1st, because my friend’s wedding is on the 30th of August. I would like to have at least a week to settle in.
          I think I could do the winter semester that starts on the 2nd of December though. :) So looks like the timing is bad, but maybe you will still be there when I come.

        • Shay

          Maybe! If I’m still there I’ll be at the end of my time, so maybe I could even show you around =) Let me know what ends up happening!

  86. Happy Birthday Martina! #youdabest #youevengetyourownhashtag #cuzyoudabest LOL

  87. Wishy

    AH! I forgot about Martina’s birthday! T.T
    I had a great gift planned out. ;; …I’ll wait for Christmas, then. :D

  88. I’ve stayed in two separate dorms. The first was an international dorm, but the second was a Korean dorm for Koreans. With that one, it was midnight curfew, no mingling with the opposite sex (even on the common rooms on their floors), and you’d get kicked out of the co-ed lobby if you were mingling too late there. But Hogwarts also has a lot of secrets. The Korean friends my friend and I made showed us quite a few tricks of the student trade–sneaking in soju, taking the back elevator and walking on specific sides of hallways to avoid the CCTV to go hang out in almost anyone’s room, ordering fried chicken after curfew to be delivered through a hidden window (collusion by the local fried chicken joint!), and crawling through the same window while the front desk ajeosshi was sleeping in his office if you got back a little late. There is very little fun like fun that’s been disallowed! ;)

    • This sounds awesome.

      Would you say you enjoyed your experience in the Korean dorm then, or the international one? How easy did you find it to make friends? And how good is your Korean (as in, when you were making friends, did you speak it well?)? Did your Korean improve a lot when you were in the Korean dorm?

    • Mainy Åkerman

      This is the best thing I’ve read all week.

    • That sounds fun! I hope I can experience something like that one day haha

  89. When I was an exchange student in France, I stayed in dorm and I was really surprised because cleaning ladies and securities kept bursting into my room in the morning! Campus guards(…?) come to deliver mails for you but they actually open the door with KEYS and come in. It’s just awkward to wake up and find out that someone’s already been to your room without you knowing…. Is this the same with all French dorms?

  90. hapagirl

    The more you guys kept talking about this, the more I appreciate living at home. All those rules, I don’t even go out or drink, but no food and hang out with people in your dorm? That sounds horrible. It’s like Hogwarts, but instead of the possibility of dying you could be homeless.
    Also happy birthday Martina~

  91. I’ll be staying at the University of Seoul dorms this summer. Does anyone know anything about them?

    • I’ll be staying at UOS for a whole year starting end of August o.o please tell me about your stay when you’re done pleaaaase and good luck it seems like an awesome place :D .

  92. If you are an international student that is staying for a short amount of time, you don’t really have to worry about the rules as much. When I studied in SK, I went to Konkuk University (also along line 2, seriously that is the best subway line). We had the same rules in our dorm, but I think we broke all of them. Sometimes it was on accident, but then we realized that there really isn’t any punishment for international students – at least for the Summer program. Mostly we broke the staying past curfew – they don’t want to leave foreigners to fend for themselves – and the no guest rule.We also had gatherings of 20 people in one dorm…we barely fit,

    • Also, if you are planning on staying in Seoul, but not for an exchange program – or if you decide to stay on your own before or after one – there are plenty of guest houses. Guest houses are super cheap and generally within walking distance of subways. As for anywhere not within walking distances of a subway or if you intend to stay out late – even if you don’t normally stay out late, you probably will while in Seoul – the taxis are super cheap compared to other countries.

      • good information, but how do you find those guest houses? are there Sites for this or do you have to do what Leigh did and walk the streets? if so, what signs/name should I look out for? :) thanks in advance!

        • You can just google guesthouses where you want to stay. I stayed at ComeOnInn. I highly recommend that guesthouse. it’s cheap (it was I think $13 a night and included breakfast, coffee, and ramen!), clean, and super friendly! At the bottom is a website link that also has links to other guesthouses at the bottom. I really enjoyed the one I stayed at, but everyone I have talked to has had positive experiences. You can stay for $11-$20 a night at a guest house. There is little privacy, but you get to meet wonderful people.


  93. Happy Birthday Martina! The home stay options mentioned in the blog posts sounded really interesting. Are home stays generally more expensive?

  94. My friend is at Yonsei right now and she said that her roommate brought back someone to do the do with on the first night and then he peed in the corner of their room. I think she has a kitchen in her dorm and she seems to like it a lot.

    • WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT!!!????????????? If someone peed in the corner of my room I’d be pretty angry. THIS IS WHY WE CAN’T HAVE NICE THINGS!! Hahahhaa.

    • Shay

      I love that you told that story and then just moved right on to “I think she has a kitchen in her dorm and she seems to like it a lot” as though nothing had happened.

    • lololol I go to school in the US, and my third week here, a guy in his underwear walked into my room (I was still up doing homework so I didn’t lock it) at 3 am and tried to pee in my closet. He was obviously really, really drunk and had blacked out. Everytime I see him in the hallway I can see the cringe on his face.

  95. Hey! You said Leigh was from Texas so did she go to the University of Texas at Austin? I’m headed there in the fall!

    • UT is a good school, and Austin is amazing.

      • Being a resident of Tennessee, I always think UT is in reference to the University of Tennesee Knoxville. This is a random statement and is not relevant to anything. I don’t even go there. SORRY.

        • Haha, but it’s still pretty funny.

        • Madelyn Reyes

          Also from TN, and i thought the same thing. You are not alone! ^.^

        • lol I’m from Georgia so I always think USC = University of South Carolina even though I’ve got friends that go to University of Southern California. Also “Tech” is always Georgia Tech. I’m sure every state out there refers to their engineering school as Tech as well.

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