TLDR – Jjimjilbangs and Public Baths

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This weeks TL;DR Thursday (Too Long; Didn’t Read) is a topic that Martina is very excited about! Ausoul from Sydney asked us if we have every been to a jjimjilbang, which is a public bath house.

To be more specific a jjimjilbang (찜질방) is actually not a bathhouse for cleaning your body. A mokgyoktang (목욕탕) is a bathhouse, but if you go to a big jjimjilbang or a 24 hour one, you will have access to both. Also, you can pay entrance for one or the other, or for both.

So a jjimjilbang is kind of a well-being center where any gender can hang out fully dressed in the comfy shorts and t-shirts provided, and chill in various rooms. There are dry heat rooms of all degrees, cold rooms, rooms for extra oxygen, rooms to pay for a foot massage or back massage, and areas for sleeping overnight. Many people will crash there at nighttime when the subway and buses are not running. For around $6.00-10.00 a night, who can complain? Well, be aware that you do have to sleep on the floor and with a pillow that is so hard it could kill someone if you threw it at them, but still…at least you can sleep! You can eat ramen, eat a delicious baked egg, and drink some seriously refreshing shikhye (which is an ice cold sweet rice drink). Some of the more elaborate jjimjilbangs even offer PC rooms and/or even singing rooms.

Blowdry Crotch

You thought we were joking?

Simon has never been to either of these places after having some frequent and uncomfortable experiences when he went to a gym in Korea. It wasn’t anything serious, but whenever he was about to take a shower there he’d notice swarms of guys blowdrying their crotches and spraying perfume on said crotches. No joke. Not that there is anything wrong with that, he just suffered some serious culture shock at seeing that so out in the open…and surrounding him. Every since then, Simon kind of lost all interest in going to a jjimjilbang, but also, (what Martina thinks is the real reason) Simon really hates when the air is hot and steamy.

Martina actually loves hanging out at a mokgyoktangs with her closest Korean friend. She prefers to go late at night, as in after 11:00pm because they can be really reallllly crowded with families on the weekends or right after school. She is usually gone for hours, seriously, HOURS just chatting buck naked with her friend, putting on face masks and deep hair treatments, soaking in hot tubs, and scrubbing off dead skin. Maybe it’s a guy thing, but how can anyone bathe for HOURS! Anyways, she absolutely loves it. The concept of chilling with your friend in a bathhouse and scrubbing your backs is looked at as really a bonding experience that only family and the closest of friends can experience. It’s like going to a spa with your friend to unwind, but you don’t pay a stranger to take care of you. You take care of each other! Yay!

Some people are worried that as a foreigner it might be uncomfortable if you’re totally naked and being stared at, but honestly, after a couple of surprised glances, no one cares. The surprised look is from the Korean mindset that most foreigners are uncomfortable being naked in front of their friends/family, and we think that this stereotype is actually pretty true for majority of North Americans. Somehow we feel like some European countries might be more comfortable with this concept of naked bathing, but we’re not totally sure why. Anyone? If you’ve been to a jjimjilbang or mokgyoktang in Korea, we’d love to hear about your experiences. How about everyone else around the world? Would you be comfy getting naked with your (same gender) friends and scrubbing dead skin off each others backs? Let us know!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nabettio Natalia Bettio da Cas

    I think I would feel fat between those really skinny korean girls ._.

  • http://twitter.com/hanseki vilija

    I’m from a small european county – Lithuania.(I’m currently studying in the capital-city Vilnius and there live Lots of Polish people. dunno why i’m mentioning this XD)  and yeah… being naked in front of Anyone but your lover is seen as a weird/akward thing.

  • Rebecca DiCandilo

    Im american and yes it was uncomfortable the first time I went to a jimjilbang.  However, I have gone 4 more times since then and I really do love it and feel more and more comfortable each time I go.  I especially love the mineral waters on the east coast near Sokcho and Gangneung.  I had some digestion issues and within 15 min of being in the water, my stomach started moving and gurgling.  That bath said it was good for that and it really was!  Maybe Im a bit slow, but someone showed me that if i go into the cold bath and then the sauna, i can stay in there so much longer.  or you could do steam room, cold bath, steam room and wow is it refreshing!  Ideally its not crowded and no one is dying their hair next to you leaving the packets and chemicals on the ground.  Oh and once there was a little girl with a nose bleed next to me and i was downstream from her so i was a bit irritated.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T7ZQJD3IKHXAG2ECQTBVGEEEFY lexieg

    wait wait wait!!!! like naked NAKED…not naked with a wrapped towel around??!! because i’m from the US (grew up in VEGAS .< i would feel completely awkward. but i LOVE lonnngg baths and this experience would be hard to turn away from but i'd feel like there are just somethings you need just for yourself like it's just a reallly intimate thing and it'd be a privilege to be naked together with someone like a significant other. i can't imagine just nonchalantly sharing with the rest of the world (or at least the bath house). i don't think there is anything wrong with it. but it just feels wrong for me.

    please please please tell me you can run around in a towel and jump in the spring or pool naked and then rush out in a towel again LOL..because i'd be SOO down haha!

    • http://www.facebook.com/yuaelt Karolina Skonieczka

      absolutely naked naked, no towels ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Soshiloveable Denise Tan 陈敏怡

    i got a big issue with saunas and places with hot air…i don’t think i can stay in a public bath for a min at all lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1607282835 Rebecca Hilberg

    Nakers, ha ha ha! I’m going to use that term from now on XD As an American, I would feel really uncomfortable being nakers in front of my friends and family; I even feel uncomfortable changing clothes in the locker rooms after practice O.O But hopefully, when I do go to Korea, I’ll overcome that uncomfortableness, and be able to dance around nakers in the public baths! :D The back scrubbing deal sounds really… scary! Black skin coming off…? O.O But I’m super curious now! :O When you mentioned Jun Pyo from BOF, I flipped out majorly *cough cough fangirl cough cough* 

  • downthelane

    Went to korea for a month, and a korean friend insisted that I go to the hot baths in our neighbourhood. I loved it! It was pretty cheap and really really nice, the only problem (as you put it ) is the nakers bit. I am from Canada aswell and people really do not get naked in any situation (even in changing rooms you would hide behind a towel). So everyone was naked and I was like ahh self concious-ness! After a while I was like w/e, look at my white bum I don’t care! You can wear a towel, or something of the sort but pretty much everyone is full blown naked washing there hair and bathing. I actually paid a woman to give me a full scrub down. I layed on a table  and she scrubbed me raw. I had taken a shower that day so I was pretty sure I was clean, But the skin and dirt they scrubbed off me was gross. I bought a scrubbing thing like you guys too, it helps alot :P
    I would recommend anyone to go, It is relaxing and nice. The salt rooms can be hot tho if you are not used to it.  I would recommend the oxygen rooms, I fell asleep for 5 hours, and I felt awsome after. Also I did go in the really hot sauna thing, It looks like a giant clay kiln, or cooking stove they give you a timer and you go inside. It was super hot; although apparently really good for you. I did NOT enjoy it and unless you are going with someone who knows about how it works or has done it before I don’t think I would recommend it at all.
    I am only upset we do not have these in canada, or the states ( cheap ones I mean) I would do all the time, it is so good for you and I think it helps with your self esteem, you learn that people are just people, you see what a woman actually looks like and that being naked is not a bad thing it is natural.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001487896051 Hai Dao L

      ooh, toronto actually does have a 24/7 jjimjilbbang! i think it’s around 20$ :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XPGYYPVS35NPIFGOOCN7K6LCLM lina22346

        hi can you give me the address.thanks

        • Sheena V

          It’s not necessarily in the downtown core.  It’s in North York.
          http://ilovesauna.com/
          I haven’t tried it myself (I’m going to soon), but I think that’s the only one in the GTA.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XPGYYPVS35NPIFGOOCN7K6LCLM lina22346

        hi can you give me the address.thanks

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XPGYYPVS35NPIFGOOCN7K6LCLM lina22346

        hi can you give me the address.thanks

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t be an issue for those of us who come from Iceland - http://blog.icelandexpress.com/iceland/2006/11/24/reykjavik-swimming-pools-the-naked-truth/ and I think this is true for all of the Nordics (Norway, Sweden, Finland & Denmark) – even though you might have to look long and hard to find anyone willing to scrub the dead skin of your back :D

  • http://www.6theory.com/forum/index.php/user/320261-chaosnouveau/ ChaosNouveau

    LMAO. Seeing that Mr. Ausoul is from Sydney, I think he meant AU-Soul. AU meaning Australia and SOUL. XDDDD

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D47WFE52ZCSNLCAEPJNI53COBI ChristinaP

    I am an American in Taiwan for the summer. Went to the hot springs here which are really relaxing but FREAKED OUT about having to be naked in front of people I had just met that day, strangers, etc. I am not comfortable being naked in any situation, even alone! To make things worse I am African American so I already get stared at, it was nice but I don’t think I could do it again.

  • http://twitter.com/annisa_rahma67 annisa rahmawati

    LOL…as i got that i don’t really like Jimjilbang, it’s okay for the dry heat rooms, but not for the Shower…
    is it different with Onsen in Japan?

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  • Conductor 37

    I apologize if this has been asked already, but what’s the real name of that Death Star scrubber?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1507962526 Katie Lee

    I have a question for Martina.
    Are you addicted to Korean dramas??

  • Anonymous

    i’ve never actually been in a bathhouse, but i can probably help explain your feeling about how some Europeans would handle it. they have nude beaches in Europe, remember? it’s not the same as a bathhouse, but it’s still being naked around other people in a way that’s not supposed to be sexual.  also, when we went to a pool in Italy, we went to a shower room after.  we were there with our friends who were living there, and they had lived there for 5 years by that time.  it was a big room with a bunch of shower heads, no privacy from the other women whatsoever. we didn’t get strange looks for not removing our bathing suits to shower, but the other women there had absolutely no shame about removing the tops, and i would be willing to bet that there are plenty of women who’d be perfectly ok with being totally naked in there.

    I also remember seeing some old public baths–it’s not real common in modern Italy, but way back when (especially in Roman times) they used public baths. it’s not quite as foreign a concept to them as it is to us North Americans.

    my biggest culture shock in Italy, i think, was the unisex bathrooms.  they aren’t everywhere, but they aren’t uncommon either.  also, some bathrooms charge for you to use them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=19511728 Sean Goodness

    Hey Martina

    my friend and I are here in Seoul and we were looking for a good jimjibangs to go to.  We are staying in the Jongrogu area of Seoul.  

    Thanks a bunch

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EWR3XGPHME64XGLZJSLPXKE7VU Katrina

    You know I’m American and I think im pretty open to the idea of visiting a jjimjilbang or mokgyoktang…I’ll try it! Also im goin to use the word nakers for now on…i think its cute lol

  • http://twitter.com/vanityria Ria Tacud

    Hair dryers for hair on head only. LOL :) )

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4RTZ2HIANHNAPOJO5UGMXXS5I Katia

    What’s the real name for the death star? And can you get it in America?

  • http://twitter.com/stiroiacaspazz Mary G

    now when simon says that … all i can think of is Teen Top “Don’t Spray Perfume”

  • Heidi Hickman

    The thing I’ve been wondering is not “Have you ever been to a jjimjilbang” but “Have you ever been denied access to a jjimjilbang for being foreign?”

    A fellow teacher (from New Jersey) spent the weekend in Busan with her Korean friend, expecting to spend the night in a jjimjilbang. She was forced to scramble for a Plan B, however, when the man behind the desk basically told her friend, “We’ll let you in, but we don’t serve their kind here…” with a nod in her direction and no explanation as to why! She’s been to several across SK in the past few years without encountering anything like this.

    For my part, I’ve only been once, and it was with complete strangers. (A male student took my husband and myself – after having warned us several times, “I tell you again: ‘all clothes off.’ This ok?” – to the sa-u-na. So that I wouldn’t be alone on the girls’ side, he decided to rendezvous with his sister and her bff.) I was actually way more comfortable than I expected, and perhaps even more comfortable than I would have been with friends! Not sure why that is.

    • http://www.eatyourkimchi.com Simon and Martina

      No, Martina’s never been denied.  She’s always gone with her Korean friend, so maybe that’s what saved her?  I dunno.

  • Elise Jerez

    When visiting Korea last october, i went to a jjimjilbang in the Sinsa area after clubbing. I basically got there at 2:30 am and experienced sleeping on the (warm) floor. You’re right about the pillows, they’re super hard ^^ But it was definitely one of the best things i got to do there and when i go back to Seoul for Christmas, i’ll go get my scrub and hot water bath. 
    I’m French by the way, and the whole “being naked around strangers” thing felt really weird to me so the first minutes were awkward. But as you said, nobody paid attention so it felt easier after some time. I think most Europeans, or French at least, would feel awkward too, as there are not many occasions here to get naked together with your friends/family/anybody. That would rather be considered totally inappropriate.

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  • Anonymous

    I know it’s an stupid question, but are woman or maybe girls shavedyou know down there ?
    so embarrassing ^^° 

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