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March 1, 2012

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FYI: Coconuts are not nuts

Today’s KCrunch Cocktail can be best described with the following photo of a delicious coconut cocktail. Despite Simon and the scientific community’s opinion, I believe my nutty + coconut comparison makes sense and anyone who dares disagree will feel the wrath of SPUDGY!!! GO MY DIREWOLF! GO!!! MAUL! MAUL AND LICK!!! Wait…why are you licking? You should be mauling and biting, sending ripples of fear into their fragile hearts…and now you’re getting tummy touches. At least sneeze on them the way you sneeze on me in the morning! You can at least do that for me can’t you? Spudgy! Spudgy?! Come on! SON OF A—

1) Psy: “Right Now”

So we’re starting off today with PSY: one of our all time favourite entertainers. I really want to emphasize the entertainment aspect of PSY because he has so much stage presence. And the engery! WHOAAAAAAAAAA WHERE DOES HE GET IT ALL FROM!!! We mentioned before that we saw him live at the YG family concert, and when he came on stage he got everyone up and dancing with him. If he was in Harry Potter he would be the first male Veela. Any HP fans out there? OOOOOooh that reminds me, I’m reading a new magical detective book series right now by Ben Aaronovitch. I finished his first book “Rivers of London” and now I’m onto “Moon Over Soho” and it’s a cool twist on the world of magic. FOCUS MARTINA FOCUS! Sorry, PSY. The video for “Right Now” is also an awesome video as I think it shows something we would all love to do when bored or stuck in traffic…break out into synchronized dance with hot backup dancers (keep your eyes peeled for the distracting blonde guy). If you haven’t heard or seen this video you are REALLY missing out.

2) 4 Minute: “I My Me Mine”

Next up is Simon’s former favourite girl group, 4Minute. Their first few songs, including “Muzik”, “Hot Issue” and “I My Me Mine” were totally awesome, and we often ran around the house dancing and singing, but after that they didn’t release any songs that we found catchy. Not like their other songs at least. “I My Me Mine” is such an awesome grimy robotic sounding song that keeps our attention non-stop. It even changes sounds several times going from a quick grimy loud beat, to a softer sound, then loud beat, back to a quick powerful grimy sound with shouting vocals. Not to mention how catchy the click click click click part is but good googely goo the English pronunciation is the worst we’ve ever heard.

WARNING! INCOMING RANT ABOUT BAD ENGLISH IN KOREA!!! Skip it if you don’t have time!!!

Now some people have criticized us for rating the English in kpop songs, and have suggested that it hurts the singers’ feelings, and it’s rude, and so on. But when we hear things like that, we think that people are really looking down on Korea. But that’s not the case. What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who include English for the sake of…what?

South Korea is a country where people predominantly speak Korean, so who is the English in a song or on a billboard? Is it for the tourists? Well it can’t be, because the English is often so nonsensical that English speakers can’t understand it. Maybe they have a lack of Korean English speakers so they’re just trying their best to translate? Well that’s not true either, because there are TONS and I mean TONS of fantastic Korean English speakers that are never consulted for their English. And why is it that kpop groups that have fluent English speakers born and raised in English speaking countries are forced to speak garbled English even though they KNOW it’s wrong?

We believe that there are two reasons. The first is that English is seen as trendy, and Korea wasn’t originally making music for the rest of the world to listen to. The Hallyu wave is a new trend but before that English sounded cool and it didn’t matter if it was correct or not because no one really cared. Just like non-Asian speakers that don’t research their Chinese or Japanese tattoo and end up with LAZY instead of STRENGTH.

The second reason has to do with the Confucius ideals engraved in the Korean workforce. Majority of fluent English speaking Koreans are a part of the younger generation and the older CEOs of many companies don’t speak English as well as their younger employees. The problem arises in that a younger employee cannot correct an older, more powerful CEO without risk of being disrespectful to their elders. So, if the CEO of a huge well known Korean company approves the most terrible English on a huge billboard, the younger employees are helpless to the decision. Of course not all members of Korean society are like this, but we and our friends witnessed small instances of this Younger/Elder stance when we were teaching, as many of our English speaking Korean co-teachers wouldn’t speak English in front of the non-English speaking Principal so as to not insult him. Or worst, they wouldn’t consult us when putting up a huge English banner on the side of the school with terrible English.

The point we’re trying to make, is that someone handed these lyrics to a kpop group, and our springboard for this discussion today is 4minute. Even though the members of 4minute are clearly not strong English speakers, they were forced to sing English lyrics without the guidance or help from the many English speakers in Korea. Our concern is that with the rising popularity of Korean music, those who love Korea won’t care about the terrible English, but the new listeners will be unable to focus on the music itself and only mock the English and put that song/group into the stereotype of Bad English Speaking Asians. Considering the amount of money and resources these huge companies have, we think they should be more considerate about what they are making their artists do.

And finally, we would never meet someone on the street in Korea and mock or laugh at their mispronunciation of an English word. Learning to speak another language is super difficult, especially training your tongue to move in a new way for a foreign sound. We specifically point our English rating towards those companies that are using English irresponsibly for the sake of being trendy, but are not thinking about the people who have to be the face of it.

RANT OVER. I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!

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3) DJ DOC: “나이런사람이야”

Well that was an unexpected rant that just poured out of my fingertips. To the DJ DOCmobile! NANANANANANAAA! DJ DOC are actually three guys and they are HI-larious. They have tons of songs out since they’ve been around since the 1990’s. I heard them a lot when my students would make a slideshow or a funny movie, it seems DJ DOC always ended up in the background as music. Probably because it works nicely with a timeline. The name of this song is my personal translation so I’m not sure if it’s right (help me) but I think it’s something like This Is a Music Video or His Old School Music Video or something….help me!!!!! The video is hilarious and the song is deeply catchy. NAAAAAAAA EEEERAN SARAM EEE EYAAAAAAA!!!!!! Also, can someone tell me if that’s UV making a guest appearance?

4) Super Junior: “Don’t Don”

Super Junior Old Picture

Super Junior Old Picture

Our last video is a video request for an old school Super Junior song “Don’t Don” which was before our kpop time. We left this video feeling a little traumatized. I guess it’s the same thing when people watch an old school Vanilla Ice video…you kind of had to be there to understand it. So besides the style of clothing and hair being way wayyyyyyyy different then what we’re used to, the song wasn’t terrible, but we’re not really into the rock guitar + pop vocals combo. But it seems Japan really really loves this combo and hasn’t outgrown it. The whole kind of shaggy mullet hairdo is also still popular in the Japanese jpop and jrock world, but even though I love Japan, I just can’t like that hairstyle.

I’m really happy Korea tends to flow with new trends and try to re-invent their kpop artists. Speaking of re-invented, we really like the current Super Junior look and sound, much more then their old stuff, but I guess the die hard fans who were there from the start will like everything. Die hard fans, we need to know: who are all these other guys? When did the group change members? And why does it look like they haven’t aged…are they vampires!!!!!??? OMG!

That’s it for now! If you’ve got any thoughts about the English in Kpop issue, let us know in the comments. Or, if you’d like us to talk about a song in one of our playlists, send us a video response via YouTube! Woot!

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  1. If you thought Don’t Don was traumatizing, just watch DBSK’s Tri-Angle, it’ll BLOW YOUR MIND. o.O It’s basically like Don’t Don but with BoA and Trax featuring with the violins and rock music but more outrageous clothing and hairstyles. Thinking about it gives me shivers. 

    4 years ago
    • IKR? That was my first thought when I was watching Don’t Don. SM stylists have SO MUCH to answer for. I’m just curious if they actually thought that looked good? Or were they supposed to look like they stepped out of a video game? Or was it just supposed to be weird so that it would be memorable?

      Even worse, those poor boys were forced to go out in public like that. SO cringe-inducing. 

      4 years ago
  2. Absolutely love your K-Crunch list, just discovered two new artists I think I’ll continue to listen to today – Psy and DJDOC.
    Thank you two so much for these!

    4 years ago
  3.  I’ve been addicted to Don’t Don since its version with Changmin  and The Trax at  SM Town L.A. Changmin raspy voice make it so much better.
    This is SOOOOOOOO EPIC, You MUST watch it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LR1bDpUcYc&feature=related

    4 years ago
  4. Hey! That’s Yesung on the upper right and Donghae on the lower right.

    4 years ago
  5. For the SuJu pic: (from left to right) Kibum is currently inactive and works as an actor/model, Kangin is doing his military service and gets discharged next month, Yesung (top right) and Donghaw (right bottom row) are still promoting with the group but have changed their hairstyles.

    4 years ago
  6. i’m gonna talk only bout suju. far left (the one that u circled) is Kibum. he’s MIA bcus he’s too busy wif his acting carrier. then the one that u circle next is Kangin. he’s been MIA bcus he went to the millitary and most probably will be back this year. the other 2 is Yesung and Donghae. they both r still active in suju. anyway, for me, i thnk don’t don is one of suju’s best song. to me, it’s unique especially bcus of henry’s part (violin part). and i like suju do rocks.! 

    4 years ago
    • THAT IS KANGIN?!?!?!  And YESUNG, DONGHAE?!?!?! W.O.W! Okay so maybe not ALL of them are vampires, seeing as how those guys have changed a LOT! Thank you for posting this info for those of us who were not into K-Pop at Suju’s beginning! :)

      4 years ago
  7. I’m proud to say that I have Psy’s song Right Now in my ipod even before I actually knew who he was! :D

    Then I found out he’s from YG and I was like~ “That’s why!!” Kkkk~

    4 years ago
  8. Super Junior Don´t Don is sooo much better live!! And Henry´s violin Solo is also much better live

    4 years ago
  9. You guys didn’t like Don Don that much! I love it! But I also really like Jrock, so Im used to this sound. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea.

    But this song was not so different from the others at that time. DBSK also had Triangle and rising sun. Back then, kpop was a mix of Jrock and American music. 

    Oh and you guys are having a hard time reconizing the members. Two of them are still in suju, lol. Kangin is in the military, Kibum has been gone a while, dont know when he is coming back. Btw, in that video, all 13 members were there plus Henry who was playing the violin. So 14 members. More than we have now, which is 10. 

    Plus suju has at some point stop againg and now their aging backwards! lol. That’s my oppas (big ELF)

    4 years ago
  10. Don’t don is actually kind of where my kpop interest really started!
    (well technically it was suju full house, a variety program they did waaaaaay back in the day with foreign exchange students, which lead me to search for their music)
    I actually liked the style of the music, but that’s probably because before I got into
    kpop I was more into Jrock-Jpop xD ( a transition that seems to be pretty common)
    I actually still like the song.. especially because of henry! That boy really deserves
    a lot more opportunity to shine.. in my opinion his talent is being wasted in super junior
    he really should try to start a solo career..

    4 years ago
  11. Psy is one of the only people i’ve seen get hard core hip hop people and Kpop fans to stand and jump the music in unison. i guess he has a super power or something. 

    4 years ago
  12. all the way to the left circled is Kim Kibum he’s acting right now (no one is sure about the bts story about this whole thing,cause other members are actors and still do SuJu promotions), still technically a SuJu member but hasn’t been active since ‘Sorry Sorry’ promotions started. 

    The one circled next to him is Kangin, he’s in the army after getting into an “altercation” at a bar. aka send him away for 2 year and pray no one remembers

    the one circled at the top right is Yesung, he’s still present at all SuJu things, he doesn’t do a lot of variety shows though he is also a member or K.R.Y along with maknaes Ryeowook and Kyuhyun.

    and the one on the bottom right is Donghae………….he’s been there way before a lot of them and he’s still there, he’s best friends with Eunhyuk and Siwon (he did ‘Oppa Oppa’ with Eunhyuk) i guess Donghae is the vampire you were talking about.

    the funny thing is you didn’t circle the only member who isn’t apart of SuJu anymore and that is Hangeng (the blonde in the middle) which i guess means you know who he is.

    4 years ago
    • We recognized Hangeng but didn’t know why we didn’t seem him in SuJu. Getting to know SuJu is like reading a novel with 13+ main characters. You have to be dedicated! Hahaha!

      4 years ago
      • It took me a year to memorize their names and to distinguish them. I kid you not. I was so proud when I could finally name them all to my friend who is an ELF and got me into this group. Only ELFs are dedicated enough to do this, lol. 

        4 years ago
      • very true. it took me a long time to learn who Yesung was cause he’s never around except on stage and radio shows.

        4 years ago
  13. i think my suju oppars drank the elixir of life. forever young and i am forever fangirling. HEHEHE.

    4 years ago
  14. So about the Suju guys from left to right: Kibum he is right now acting and put his activities on hold with the rest of Suju perhaps if you have seen the drama Deep Rooted Tree you will find him there. Next is Kangin who is in military and he will be back in April. Then is Yesung who has always been there, perhaps Martina has heard of Cinderella’s stepsister ost, well he’s the one singing it and he looks like this (photo the one on the right). Then is Donghae who has also always been there and is the one on the left in the photo I put in this post. He is the one who sings the Oppa Oppa single with Eunhyuk.
    Hope it helps. And btw even if the fashion style at the time wasn’t the best, the song was pretty different and badass for the time. If you have time I invite you to look for the translation of the lyrics and I’m sure you’ll find it pretty interesting.

    4 years ago
  15. Thank you so much for touching on English in K-Pop! I used to be one of those snobby indie kids and thought “uh it’s kinda tacky they’ve random nonsensical English phrases in Korean/Chinese/Japanese pop songs…” but now that I’ve come to like K-Pop as well, I’m hearing that same comment from friends when I introduce K-Pop songs to them.

    And I do get why they can’t overlook the Engrish to enjoy what’s actually a really good song, because I was like that too. It’s just too distracting!

    And despite knowing that’s how Confucian societies are like (I live in one after all…) I cringe for the native/fluent English speakers in groups that are made to sing lines that make no sense whatsoever.

    If these groups really want to expand to the US and other predominantly English-speaking markets, they need to realise how distracting bad English phrases can turn potential fans away!

    Sorry for the very long comment and I hope your leg’s much better now, Martina! :)

    4 years ago
  16. yes i just watched SuJu’s “Knockout” and now YOU HAVE to watch it… its toooo funny! xD and im a pretty big SuperJunior fan. but i was like NO throughout the video lol

    4 years ago
  17. OMG psy is AWESOME. This is SOOO going on my iPod. 
    AND SO IS DJ DOC. OH LAWD. 
    And violin solo?! DEAR GOD, HENRY. You’re a freaking BEAST. <3

    4 years ago
  18. By the way, Don’t Don was the very first video I watched of Super Junior. This was the boy group I fell in love with…. but it’s true that whenever I look back at this video, I snicker a little (their hair and bad-assness is just too cute).

    4 years ago
  19. Oh, and another thing I wanted to say about “Don’t Don” is that it’s imo Super Junior trying to be hardcore when they’re clearly not hardcore. The concept they have in the music video was was one that they hard for just the song because they started out with a cute image, beside whatever “Twins (Knock Out) was, seeing as one of their other early songs “Miracle” is really cute and energetic.

    4 years ago
  20. I honestly have been waiting to see Simon and Martina review an old video of Super Junior (and BEG and SNSD). Teehee.

    The first two comments already explained who the four SJ members are. So yeah. :D I also agree that they do not age. Just look  at Sungmin! Haha. Still cute as ever. XD

    4 years ago
  21. I think a saw an awesome live version of this Super Junior Song on Youtube somewhere. But never the video.

    4 years ago
  22. Thank you, you just made my morning perfect with these great videos. Now to tackle the latest snow blizzard here in Minneapolis.

    4 years ago
  23. Don’t Don video: There aren’t actually any extra members in that video, though I suppose if you pick up from Bonomana, then there are a few surprises. Hangeng is still there, dancing at the front with his ice-blonde hair, and this is before Kibum mysteriously disappeared and Kangin left for the army. The boy playing the violin is Henry, a canadian music prodigy (no really, he’s some kind of genius that SM found through his dominance of the Canadian classical scene)  and currently a member of Super Junior M. SM had originally planned to add him into Super Junior with Don’t Don as they had added Kyuhyun in 2006, but the backlash from the fans was so strong that he didn’t reappear on official Super Junior albums ever again. So- the group didn’t really change members.
    And yes, Eeteuk is a vampire. This is the only explanation.

    4 years ago
  24. It seems like suju don’t don is now an old song haha
    it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a picture of the 13…
    about the members you encircled, they are Kibum, who (i think) is busy with his acting career, Kangin who enrolled in the army, Yesung and Donhae who are still both performing with the others…
    nice song selection by the way!

    4 years ago
  25. in DJDOC’s video what kpop videos were they parodying? <<<< weird word… haha lol and yea i know i was like o.0… with the SuJu video. hahaha x]]]

    4 years ago
  26. There actually IS a live version without the violin solo but with a guitar solo XD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQCyc8D_PA

    4 years ago
    • oh! Dont Don SS3 remix will always be my favorite Dont Don version..
      Its so epic! xD

      4 years ago
  27. if you thought don’t don was weird you HAVE to watch their debut ‘twins (knock out)’ it’s the worst mv i’ve ever seen hahah and trust me, you will be having nightmares about heechul, the faces he makes omg.

    4 years ago
    • man, but I love retro!suju….they’re trying so hard! Haha 
      and you have got to love the TWINS music video if only for Donghae, who looks like he’s 12, but still hardcore <3

      4 years ago
  28. Aahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!! Oh my gosh, I agree that SJ look really, REALLY weird in this, but its still a pretty good song (Henry’s violin solo! Random as heck, but still awesome)

    A suggestion for you guys! If you think Don’t Don was hard to handle, you HAVE TO watch their debut song, Twins (Knock Out). Keep an eye out for Heechul’s hair. It will ‘BLOW YOUR MIND’. *see what I did there?*

    4 years ago
  29. Just a small piece of information.
    DJ DOC’s “나이런사람이야” is actually composed by PSY.
    Psy himself often performed this song saying “I’ll show you what the original is”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80_JP5GHd8 

    I also think San E’s ‘맛 좋은 산’ would have made a valid entry on this list. :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jx3qP9LiqI 

    4 years ago
  30. “…What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who are include English for the sake of…what?
    South Korea is a country where people predominantly speak Korean, so who is the English in a song or on a billboard?

    Lol, I’m not nit-picking because this is teh interwebz…I just thought it was funny that there were mistakes in your English rant, lol.  I love you guys!

    As for Super Junior, I kind of feel like their current stuff is more like their personality than “Don’t Don” ever was.  And Heechul reminds me of Axel from Kingdom Hearts.

    4 years ago
    • Thank you!!! Lesson to be learned: don’t publish things without getting someone else to look it over… ;D

      4 years ago
  31. Can you do It’s you or No Other… and if you want to see the real SJ when they debuted, watch their debut MV “Knockout”… you’ll get a taste of what KPOP is 7 years ago LOL

    4 years ago
  32. “What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who are include English for the sake of…what?”…as for the english of this post I give this a…3.5 out of 5 (as I found more typing errors too).
    In the Suju pic you should have circled Hankyung cause he’s left too T^T
    Donghae’s been pretty busy with acting in foreign tv shows and such (oh! and he’s just released Oppa oppa with Eunhyuk). Apart from the Super Show happening right now I don’t know what else Yesung is doing…

    4 years ago
    • Don’t you know? Yesung is just resting. LOLOLOL
      He’s actually helping his parents with their restaurant.

      4 years ago
  33. =)) I’m surprised you guys didn’t say anything about the English in Don’t Don :)) “Stop banging my head my eyes are red”  or something like that =))

    4 years ago
  34. Strange that you were surprised by olde Super Junior, have you not seen “Tri-Angle” by DBSK feat BoA and the Trax? Cause there is a whole lot of “uhhh…’ in that.

    4 years ago
  35. I love Henrys violin solo XDDD 

    4 years ago
  36. Asking about Super Junior members… You could get some pretty long responses on that. They were originally suppose to be 12 member rotational group that changed members every year, and then SM added Kyuhyun making the member list permanent with Shindong, Leeteuk, Heechul, Siwon, Sungmin, Ryeowook, Donghae Eunhyuk, Hankyung, Kibum, Yesung, Kangin and Kyuhyun. The four people circled in the picture (left to right) are Kibum, Kangin, Yesung and Donghae. I will refer you to their Wiki to read about all the member changes through out the years because it is long. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Junior P.S. The violin guy in the “Don’t Don” MV is Henry, and he is only an additional member, along with Zhou Mi, of Super Junior M.

    4 years ago
  37. I saw the PSY video a long time ago, somehow it was playing on my computer??? Never knew who it was and now I do, thanks. I have to say I have so wanted to do that while sitting in TRAFFIC!!

    4 years ago
  38. tnx so much for his! i loved dj doc and didn’t know it untill now!

    4 years ago
  39. Kibum, Kangin, Yesung and Donghae! :D Kibum has put his idol career on hold at the moment, to pursue his dream of acting, and Kangin is currently in the military, will be discharged this year! Yesung and Donghae just look dramatically different with their hairstyles, but they’ve been present in everything including Mr Simple. :P But I do agree, they look forever young. I need their secrets. 

    4 years ago
    • Maybe the next time I meet them I should club one of them over the head and collect his tear drops for a youth serum. That or ask what makeup they’re using…probably the clubbing is the best route.

      4 years ago
      • but they look good too wifout makeup. so i thnk u guys better go for the clubbing. pls do share the serum too k.!

        4 years ago
  40. in SJ. 1st guy, he’s focusing on his acting career, and I think, he isn’t coming back to SJ anymore XD. 2nd guy… currently in Army. 3rd guy and 4th guy, Yesung and Donghae, who became sooo gorgeous as time goes by :D

    4 years ago