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K Crunch Coconut Cocktail

FYI: Coconuts are not nuts

Today’s KCrunch Cocktail can be best described with the following photo of a delicious coconut cocktail. Despite Simon and the scientific community’s opinion, I believe my nutty + coconut comparison makes sense and anyone who dares disagree will feel the wrath of SPUDGY!!! GO MY DIREWOLF! GO!!! MAUL! MAUL AND LICK!!! Wait…why are you licking? You should be mauling and biting, sending ripples of fear into their fragile hearts…and now you’re getting tummy touches. At least sneeze on them the way you sneeze on me in the morning! You can at least do that for me can’t you? Spudgy! Spudgy?! Come on! SON OF A—

1) Psy: “Right Now”

 

So we’re starting off today with PSY: one of our all time favourite entertainers. I really want to emphasize the entertainment aspect of PSY because he has so much stage presence. And the engery! WHOAAAAAAAAAA WHERE DOES HE GET IT ALL FROM!!! We mentioned before that we saw him live at the YG family concert, and when he came on stage he got everyone up and dancing with him. If he was in Harry Potter he would be the first male Veela. Any HP fans out there? OOOOOooh that reminds me, I’m reading a new magical detective book series right now by Ben Aaronovitch. I finished his first book “Rivers of London” and now I’m onto “Moon Over Soho” and it’s a cool twist on the world of magic. FOCUS MARTINA FOCUS! Sorry, PSY. The video for “Right Now” is also an awesome video as I think it shows something we would all love to do when bored or stuck in traffic…break out into synchronized dance with hot backup dancers (keep your eyes peeled for the distracting blonde guy). If you haven’t heard or seen this video you are REALLY missing out.

2) 4 Minute: “I My Me Mine”

 

Next up is Simon’s former favourite girl group, 4Minute. Their first few songs, including “Muzik”, “Hot Issue” and “I My Me Mine” were totally awesome, and we often ran around the house dancing and singing, but after that they didn’t release any songs that we found catchy. Not like their other songs at least. “I My Me Mine” is such an awesome grimy robotic sounding song that keeps our attention non-stop. It even changes sounds several times going from a quick grimy loud beat, to a softer sound, then loud beat, back to a quick powerful grimy sound with shouting vocals. Not to mention how catchy the click click click click part is but good googely goo the English pronunciation is the worst we’ve ever heard.

WARNING! INCOMING RANT ABOUT BAD ENGLISH IN KOREA!!! Skip it if you don’t have time!!!

Now some people have criticized us for rating the English in kpop songs, and have suggested that it hurts the singers’ feelings, and it’s rude, and so on. But when we hear things like that, we think that people are really looking down on Korea. But that’s not the case. What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who include English for the sake of…what?

South Korea is a country where people predominantly speak Korean, so who is the English in a song or on a billboard? Is it for the tourists? Well it can’t be, because the English is often so nonsensical that English speakers can’t understand it. Maybe they have a lack of Korean English speakers so they’re just trying their best to translate? Well that’s not true either, because there are TONS and I mean TONS of fantastic Korean English speakers that are never consulted for their English. And why is it that kpop groups that have fluent English speakers born and raised in English speaking countries are forced to speak garbled English even though they KNOW it’s wrong?

We believe that there are two reasons. The first is that English is seen as trendy, and Korea wasn’t originally making music for the rest of the world to listen to. The Hallyu wave is a new trend but before that English sounded cool and it didn’t matter if it was correct or not because no one really cared. Just like non-Asian speakers that don’t research their Chinese or Japanese tattoo and end up with LAZY instead of STRENGTH.

The second reason has to do with the Confucius ideals engraved in the Korean workforce. Majority of fluent English speaking Koreans are a part of the younger generation and the older CEOs of many companies don’t speak English as well as their younger employees. The problem arises in that a younger employee cannot correct an older, more powerful CEO without risk of being disrespectful to their elders. So, if the CEO of a huge well known Korean company approves the most terrible English on a huge billboard, the younger employees are helpless to the decision. Of course not all members of Korean society are like this, but we and our friends witnessed small instances of this Younger/Elder stance when we were teaching, as many of our English speaking Korean co-teachers wouldn’t speak English in front of the non-English speaking Principal so as to not insult him. Or worst, they wouldn’t consult us when putting up a huge English banner on the side of the school with terrible English.

The point we’re trying to make, is that someone handed these lyrics to a kpop group, and our springboard for this discussion today is 4minute. Even though the members of 4minute are clearly not strong English speakers, they were forced to sing English lyrics without the guidance or help from the many English speakers in Korea. Our concern is that with the rising popularity of Korean music, those who love Korea won’t care about the terrible English, but the new listeners will be unable to focus on the music itself and only mock the English and put that song/group into the stereotype of Bad English Speaking Asians. Considering the amount of money and resources these huge companies have, we think they should be more considerate about what they are making their artists do.

And finally, we would never meet someone on the street in Korea and mock or laugh at their mispronunciation of an English word. Learning to speak another language is super difficult, especially training your tongue to move in a new way for a foreign sound. We specifically point our English rating towards those companies that are using English irresponsibly for the sake of being trendy, but are not thinking about the people who have to be the face of it.

RANT OVER. I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!

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3) DJ DOC: “나이런사람이야”

 

Well that was an unexpected rant that just poured out of my fingertips. To the DJ DOCmobile! NANANANANANAAA! DJ DOC are actually three guys and they are HI-larious. They have tons of songs out since they’ve been around since the 1990′s. I heard them a lot when my students would make a slideshow or a funny movie, it seems DJ DOC always ended up in the background as music. Probably because it works nicely with a timeline. The name of this song is my personal translation so I’m not sure if it’s right (help me) but I think it’s something like This Is a Music Video or His Old School Music Video or something….help me!!!!! The video is hilarious and the song is deeply catchy. NAAAAAAAA EEEERAN SARAM EEE EYAAAAAAA!!!!!! Also, can someone tell me if that’s UV making a guest appearance?

4) Super Junior: “Don’t Don”

 

Super Junior Old Picture

Super Junior Old Picture

Our last video is a video request for an old school Super Junior song “Don’t Don” which was before our kpop time. We left this video feeling a little traumatized. I guess it’s the same thing when people watch an old school Vanilla Ice video…you kind of had to be there to understand it. So besides the style of clothing and hair being way wayyyyyyyy different then what we’re used to, the song wasn’t terrible, but we’re not really into the rock guitar + pop vocals combo. But it seems Japan really really loves this combo and hasn’t outgrown it. The whole kind of shaggy mullet hairdo is also still popular in the Japanese jpop and jrock world, but even though I love Japan, I just can’t like that hairstyle.

I’m really happy Korea tends to flow with new trends and try to re-invent their kpop artists. Speaking of re-invented, we really like the current Super Junior look and sound, much more then their old stuff, but I guess the die hard fans who were there from the start will like everything. Die hard fans, we need to know: who are all these other guys? When did the group change members? And why does it look like they haven’t aged…are they vampires!!!!!??? OMG!

That’s it for now! If you’ve got any thoughts about the English in Kpop issue, let us know in the comments. Or, if you’d like us to talk about a song in one of our playlists, send us a video response via YouTube! Woot!

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  1. in the second to last paragraph, line 3, *than*

  2. yes, Yesung is now incredibly good looking so kind of unrecognisable from the old days. he’s also the best singer of super junior (hence the name) so remember him! :D

  3. Wow Super Junior. If you see guys who look like that in Japan, They’re probably male Hosts.

  4. now when I listen to DJ DOC’ s 나 이런 사람이야, the beats are quite similar to gangnam style. well both of the songs are composed by Psy so no plagiarism here.

  5. If Don’t Don surprised you, you should see Super Junior’s Twins/Knock Out

  6. I don’t know whether someone translated it yet, but I think “나이런사람이야” means “I am this (or this kind of) person”.Oh, and totally agree with the rant on bad use of English.

  7. I liked that video response. It was very creative! AWESOME! And Don’t Don was.. interesting… PSY and DJ DOC were just cool, man. They were just great!

  8. I love you for spotlighting Psy. I love you for spotlighting Psy. I can say this a million times and it will not convey how much I love you for spotlighting Psy.

  9. Can you please do review of some of the old DBSK songs like Jung ban hap or Rising Sun for example? Even if it’s just in k crunch pleease. It is really sad that new kpop fans only know DBSK for mirotic..or kyhd. It would be great if you could introduce them to old dbsk songs. Thank you ^^

  10. I love all these songs..

    Oh, about Don’t Don x) I don’t like the video, but I like the song:P And I like the violin solo… And the hip thrust thingy… They do that in other music videos too:P

    Buuut…. about missing members. Yes, the number of members have lessened.
    Left, back: Kibum, started to focus on acting career, or something.
    Besite him: Kangin, he left for the army. He is coming back this year.
    Right, back: Yesung. Oh, he is still in Super Junior:P
    That blonde guy in the middle that doesn’t have a red circle around him: Hankyung/Han Geng. He missed China, and is now a solo artist there.
    Front, right: Donghae. He is still in Super Junior:P He’s the guy with the rope in Mr. Simple. He’s acting one guy in the Taiwanese filming of Skip Beat!:D (Martina should know about that manga)
    All of the guys isn’t in the photo D: Heechul left for the army late last year..

    There are a lot of songs I love.. does it need to have a music video?

    Se7en – Digital Bounce (ft. TOP)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaxWYo9Mgtw

    Mc Mong – Circus
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTUclwr-Jo0

    Not kPOP, but still accurate (perhaps for indie? or something….)
    Seo Taiji (He is a legend in Kpop. The YG guy was in a boy band with him in the 90s called Seo Taiji & Boys – Internet War (from 2000)
    I like both of the performances, but it also has a music video (I’m not a fan of that, though:P)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yexJ848BUwI (Live in Russia, crazy audience. I like his jacket)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIad3hoS-V4 (I love the intro! He doesn’t look very “rockish”:P Definitely a better haircut than in the video)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e884QeiLsbs (MV)

    2ne1 – Follow Me
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJ6Xk9bnew

    After School – Bang! (No, I didn’t think of it because of DJ Doc:P)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkaRpmXncY (Hurrah! Good quality!)

    (I have a feeling that I’m linking to songs that you’ve already used..

    Co-Ed School – Too Late
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKYQnrCLbxE

    okay, last one..
    T-ara – I go crazy because of you
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEF5uf2MSKI

  11. Hey~please review  M.I.B’s G.D.M ! This song is really awesome and they’re underrated!!

  12. Don’t Don was the song that got me into Super Junior~ what a surprise to see you post it!! ^___^

    To answer your question about members:
    Super Junior had 13 members after their full group debut (following Kyuhyun’s addition) in 2006.  Following that time, several of the members have moved on to other activities (acting, military service, or solo promotions).  Now that Heechiul is also in the army, 9 members are left in current promotions (though none of the missing members – with the possible exception of Hangeng, whose case results remain ambiguous – have “dropped” group membership.)
    Kangin will be done with the military soon~ O/ …. but I digress. :P

    Regarding the members that your circled in pink:
    Starting with the top row, from left to fright, we have –> Kibum, Kangin, and Yesung.  Kibum is acting (& has been cast in movies/dramas).  Kangin left for military service in 2010.  Yesung is still a VERY active member of SJ~ in fact, he’s one of the main vocals!  The one you circled on the bottom is Donghae.  He, like Yesung, is also still in Super Junior.  My guess is the hair-styles threw you off. ^^”

    No, they don’t age. *___*
    Esp Sunmin. ^^” —> Pre-debut: http://superstreet.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/predebut263bv7.jpg [vs] This Winter:
    http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/ningin/blog/2011/12/sungmin-ryeowook-ktr.jpg & http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6829/icepluscoffee543514.jpg [credits to the original posters, of course].

    Lol ~ of course they’re not vampires, but they did do a Thai CF in which they played them. XD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WbszaAHb64 Lol. ^^

    Sorry for the long comment, and thank you for the laughs, as always!!! ^_____^
    Have a nice weekend!!

  13. OMG SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS WHO PSY IS!!!! YAY MARTINA!!!! I FEEL IN LOVE WITH HIM SINCE “IT’S ART” <3 

  14. Yes is a very old song,video and photo of Super Junior. First circle is Kibum, he is gone for be a actor drama. Circle 2: Kangin is in army now. Circle 3: You don’t recognize Yesung. Circle 4: again you don’t recognize Donghae. The blond in the middel is chines member: Hangeng, he gone too for solo career in china. In the picture Shindong and Heechul are not. And now Heechul is gone too for army.  Super Junior are 9 now. Before 13. And i’m so so sorry for my bad english, because I don’t speak english very well. I don’t speak and write english that it.

  15. Oh
    hey, another huge monologue about language!

    For
    me, consideration of a language goes hand-in-hand with respect.
    Please note I’m not claiming the less-than-stellar English in k-pop
    is offensive to Western culture, or demanding that anglophone
    cultures be treated more respectfully via better English in k-pop;
    that is not at all my intention, and to anyone who is offended I
    sincerely apologize. I’m not a linguist, and this is all my personal
    opinion.

    Rather,
    I think how any
    language is approached in any
    venue demonstrates two things: the speaker’s respect for his
    audience, and the speaker’s respect for himself. I’m a language
    lover, of foreign tongues and my native one, and whatever language
    I’m speaking/am attempting to speak, I try to use with care and
    esteem. That’s not to say I don’t use slang or make up words or
    speak with a regional accent or write huge long run-on sentences
    because sometimes I’m too lazy to hit the comma key. I think playing
    with a language can be enormously respectful, kind of like joking
    around and messing with close friends: you love them and want to
    treat them well, but sometimes you’ve got to steal all their
    underwear and mail it back to them, one pair at a time, through
    intra-campus mail. Just to show them just
    how much you care. Where the line is crossed is with intention. Are
    you spelling Dracula as “Drakula” because you’re purposefully
    pissing off your sister in Scrabble, or have you really not bothered
    to learn standardized spelling? And even within that, do you not
    know standardized spelling because you lack the resources, or because
    you feel it’s not worth the time?

    Obligatory
    text break so your eyes have a chance to unglaze. Go massage those
    optical organs, dear reader. Ew, no, over the eyelid. Don’t be
    unsanitary.

    If
    the resources are readily available I don’t understand why they
    wouldn’t be taken advantage of. Whether it’s using the interwebs to
    make extra super careful sure your tattoo actually
    says “grace” or asking someone if they can give a crash course in
    pronunciation, that extra step says “hey, I care about these words
    I’m taking ownership of, and I think my audience deserves my added
    attention.”

    Yes,
    learning another language is hard. It’s also frequently humiliating.
    Your competency level tanks. You are utterly, totally at the mercy
    of others to teach you, like a child, how to say your name, your age,
    and where you live. What the colors are. The days of the week.
    Forget casual conversations, those won’t happen for years. Isn’t it
    easier to just, you know, make things up? Learn enough to scrape by?
    Kinda half-ass it and hope no one cares? Well, yes, it is. But
    when you humble yourself, language stops being cold words on a page
    and it starts breathing. We created these languages and languages
    reflect us. Our thoughts, our fears, our rage and despair and
    indignation and jubilation and love.

    Thanks
    for sticking with me if you made it the whole way through, and know I
    love every last fantastic elastic bit of you. Let’s all be one,
    huge, crazy language class together. 

  16. I find it a little odd that you criticize Korea’s nonsensical English. Not because you don’t have very valid points, but because I always thought Kpop had more coherent English than Jpop. Yes Kpop songs do have some errors in their English, but it feel like when I started to listen to Kpop ten years ago, there has been improvement.

    Now with Japan, it seems that there is hardly or no improvement. You could argue that Japan has a most artist freedom from the bands and singers themselves, and therefore if the artist chooses to write lyrics with incorrect English, then no one will change that. But pop groups that probably have no creative freedom, like Johnny’s Entertainment, seem to be a major source of problems.

    For example, I love Nakata Yasutaka. I love the groups he produces. Perfume being one. But they are constantly misspronouncing English words. So much, it took me a few listens to find out the word they repeat over and over again in the chorus, is the title of the song
    Polyrhythm. I have yet to find out what a “Chocolate Disco” is or what a “One Room Disco” would actually be. Is it a private disco room? Is it a really small disco club?

    And heck, maybe I don’t know what I am talking about. My English is terrible, and I probably made many grammatical error in this post alone.

  17. The guy on the far left is Kibum. He hasn’t promoted with Super Junior in years but he’s still around. The official word is that he’s acting but until Tree with Deep Roots he hadn’t been on tv in 2 years.  Heechul recently posted a photo with him on Kibum’s birthday.

    The next guy is Kangin. He was on We Got Married and did tons of variety shows with Heechul. After a drunken bar fight ( which he was proven to be defending himself) and a car accident (cough*hitandrun*cough) he went to do his two year military service as a way to redeem himself. He’ll be back this year

    Third guy is Yesung. He’s still there. He is one of the three primary singers (along with Ryewook and Kyu). He was also on Immortal Song 2 when it started.

    The last on the bottom is Donghae. Still there. Currently acting with SiWon in the Taiwanese version of Skip Beat with Ivy Chen and Bianca Bai.  

    More importantly the blonde in the center is Han Geng (formerly Han Kyung) who sued SM to break his contract and won. He is the former leader of Super Junior-M and is currently promoting in China.  He is also acting in films include My Kingdom with Da S and Wu Chun and a new movie about the founding of Mao’s China. 

    I also like Psy, kind of like 4 Minute (Heart to Heart), and like DJ Doc though I find them to be mean at times on variety shows

    But Don’t Don is one of my favorite SuJu songs…I started with anime though so…but the lives are awesome with Henry. Also the SM Town version with Heechul, Jay, Changmin, and Jungmo doing a rock break is epic

  18. 2 of the guys you circled are still in the group. Donghae has darker hair now and well Yesung just got older. Kangin and Kibum aren’t promoting with Super Junior right now, and well we all know Hangeng left coz of SM’s poor treatment.

  19. Right Now sort of reminds me of Party Rock Anthem…

  20. BTW THE GUY ON THE LEFT IS KIBUM HE LEFT TO PURSUE HIS ACTING CAREER, KANGIN IS IN THE ARMY YESUNG AND DONGHAE ARE STILL IN SUPER JUNIOR. SO THEY ARENT DEAD :) 

  21. SUPER JUNIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM LIKE A  DIE HARD FAN!!!!!!! THANK YOU SIMON AND MARTINA!!!!! 

  22. Hah! Simon and Martina you should put U-kiss’s debut song Not Young in the playlist! I know it’s pretty cringe worthy, but the song is really catchy LOL…
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6d4CvNbHw&feature=BFa&list=PL784326248229448A&lf=plpp_video

  23. I’m not a die hard fan but i don’t quite understand how you have failed to recognize Kibum, Kangin, Yesung and Donghae. Maybe i do cuz 3 out of the 4 are some of my favourites. And if you wanna see an awesome JYP, you should look him up doing MC hammer during the Dream High concert special.

  24. I LOOOOOOOVE DJ DOC!! my first encounter was Run to You, I heard it from my brother and thought it was too hilarious to not like. I think this song is called “I’m that kind of person”

    I agree with your english rant, so I must admit I have a double standard when it comes to Korea. I giggle my face off at Japanese songs, because they are REALLY gigglesome sometimes, but with the Korean ones I usually don’t notice. OKAY, I IGNORE! but only when its bigbang (…top……..) hehe ok I giggle at that too. uhm… I dunno, I .. I … I….. *TOP/VIP* does not compute. does not compute. *explodedbrain*

    ok, so whenever they make a freshness It makes me cry inside, because it loses something, maybe a little respect, or.. dignity… or… serious points? its ok in a silly song, but when they are singing “I Lobe you” its like  “…..”  But Like you say, as a fangirl VIP I let it slide because I think their voices and faces are much more noteworthy than their pronunciation, but I think its also because I’m a bit bilingual, so I appreciate how hard it is to speak a different language T_T But I also know people are not so forgiving. especially when they think everyone should speak their language.. 

    P.S. I LOVE PSY!!!! HE IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!

  25. the haven’t aged part about super junior is true XD it’s true for a lot of male korean idols! sungmin and leeteuk are great examples, they still look really young faced, but they dress maturely (real maturity level though XD they’re kids at heart). leeteuk is close to 30 (korean age) now! and sungmin is 27 i think.

  26. Really liked this one. Especially Psy’s Right now and DJ DOC

  27. thatssumgoodcurry

    YUSSSSS! PSY’s Right now is SO my jam! I have that song on my i-Pod and the video saved to my i-Tunes on my laptop for long trips and/or the between-college class streaks of boredom (I sadly have no fancy-shmancy i-Pod to watch it on, or else I’d be watching it ALL the time) I even made up a dance to it (yes I know there’s already a dance for it, but mine’s so much better. Well, not really but, whatever…).

    And I know a whole mess of ELFs have probably already explained the missing/added members of Suju to you, but just in case you guys are still confused, I’ll add my ten cents (and I know my shiz, so don’t worry).

    So, in the picture, two of the guys circled HAVE indeed left, while the other two are still in the group so…fail (of course they’re ALWAYS changing styles, so its really hard to place them if you don’t know their faces).

    -The two guys circled on the left-hand side are Kibum and Kangin (from left to right). Kibum left to pursue an acting career long ago, while Kangin joined the army in 2010, and he’s set to be finished by summer of this year.

    -The guy with the BRIGHT blonde hair to the lower right of Kangin who isn’t circled is Hangeng. He left as well, after a not-so-nice lawsuit (think JYJ), and he WAS the only foreign member of the group (he’s Chinese and they’ve since created Super Junior M with foreign members).

    -The other two circled are Yesung and Donghae, who are still active members.

    -The dude on the violin in the video is Henry (he’s Taiwanese-Canadian), the one who’s a native English speaker (he’s from Toronto ^^). He’s only in Super Junior M, though. They just put him in this video for fun, I guess.

    -One other member they’ve added is Zhou Mi (who’s Chinese), but he’s only in Super Junior M as well.

    -Last but not least, Kyuhyun and Heechul aren’t included in the picture, but Kyuhyun is also an active member of Super Junior, while Heechul just joined the army last August. I have no idea why they aren’t in the picture, though…

    Sorry my post was SO LONG and FILLED with CAPS (and parenthesis), but I at least hope my explanation was able to help in some way. :)

  28. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH SUPER JUNIOR!!!!!! ONE OF MY FAVES TOO!!!!!!!!!! Also… Right Now was super catchy!!! I couldn’t help but bob my head along.

    I really liked all of the songs this week. Best yet!

  29. For the Super Junior Old Picture (From left to right)
    The first circle is Kibum. He went to work his solo activities as an actor but will be coming back soon in the predicted time of November 2012. The second circle is Kangin is currently in the army after an accident that happen but he will be returning soon in the predicted time of April 2012. Third circle is Yesung and he’s still in the group. He’s hair just looks different from what it currently is. Last or fourth circle is Donghae. He’s still in the group same thing. His hair looks really different from what it is now. I hope that clears up everything. And I think you guys should see TVXQ’s Tri-Angle… Yeah but the song is amazing from my point of view. Also Super Junior’s debut song Twins (Knockout) like I said… Yeah… Again the song is amazing from my point of view. Also… as everyone mentioned before. That violinist player. Was Henry. The boy is from Hong Kong (Father’s side) and Taiwan (Mother’s side) but was raised in Toronto, Canda. Not sure how this is going to make you like him but yeah… Lastly. From my opinion. I loved the violin solo.

  30. Super Junior old picture (left to right when ur lookun straight to the scree.)
    first circle is Kibum.. honestly i dont know what happen to him he just disappeared and when he got older he actually looks like an old guy (sorry Kibum fans)
    second is Kangin.. he’s in military.
    third is Yesung.. he’s still there
    fourth is Donghae.. Eunhyuk’s partner on the “Oppa” song. they’re like bestfriend (Eunhyuk’s right next to him).
    I guess u know the other members.

  31. i like JYP as much as some people hate him i really like him 

  32. kawaii_candie

    well done! i haven’t watched the videos yet (cuz i’m at work, eheheh….) but i just wanted to pop-in and say that i approve of your English rant! i hope that with your growing notoriety in Korea, this will maybe come to the attention of said companies and maybe provoke a change! (one can only hope). 

    The situation in Japan is really similar (except with WAAAAAAAAAY worse English pronunciation….) and i could really relate to the older/younger thing you were talking about… i’m an English teacher here, and just yesterday i had to cheer up one of my Japanese coworkers because apparently the older teachers keep getting on her case (about dumb random shit) when she is a much better English teacher than they are. (her pronunciation is better, her way of teaching is more fun and much more prone to induce learning). it made me sad cuz that happens way too often, that they put age/experience before any actual talent… *sigh*

    oh well, anyways, keep on fighting!!

  33. I agree on the English rant for the most part. They add nonsense lyrics to sound cool and it comes out sounding worse than it would have in plain Korean, but I must defend them a little bit. As you probably know, being teachers, they don’t have all the sounds that we have so they have to guestimate  when they put into the Hangul, which is probably what most of the members get. Which would explain T.O.P.’s mess up on trauma (ex: trauma vs. tra-eoma). There’s also the difference in where they emphasize the sounds. I get into all sorts of trouble cause I don’t emphasize the correct part of the word. That’s the only defending I can really do because you do make a good point. The senior/junior thing is extremely prevalent and it even spills into the friendships I have with Koreans studying at my college here in America. A few of my friends know that I try to show the proper respect when I know it and so they make sure I know it even if it would be considered embarrassing by Western standards. Enough of my rant~

  34. Ooh you like DJ DOC! I always pronounced that as doc, as in doctor… My bad. I can totally see Simon raising the roof up in here to Run To You, if you haven’t already you should totally check that out… Bounce with me, BOUNCE!!

    Totally agree about the mullets – Macgyver hair was never a good idea on anyone. Ever. But aside from that I actually love Don’t Don – including the violin. And yes, even the hip thrusts :-)

  35. u know those ppls on the right is yesung top right circle and donghae bottom right circle and the guy next to the other left circle went to the army and coming back dis year some time soon and the guy top left circle left super junior to pursue his acting career

  36. HAHAHA. Oh god, the ones you pointed out were from left to right Kibum (who has actually left) and Kangin (who’s in the army but returning soon, he’s in Sorry Sorry actually!). Then Yesung and Donghae who are still around you know!! xD I think Yesung is pretty easy to find in the new videos … his hair is just a bit shorter. :/

    AND OMG THE VIOLIN SOLO WAS THE BEST. I liked it. ;o; I felt like it fit with the song. Henry (from SuJu M) did an epic job on the violin.

    And as for the mullets, I don’t mind, some of their hair is okay. Have you guys seen old DBSK? There’s some worse stuff out there!!

    And lastly, totally agree to that rant, so so true.

  37. umm…guys? just a minor detail but you circled Donghae’s face…and he’s still in (guy on the right hand corner), the guy you didn’t circle that has terminated his contract is Hankyung, who’s the blonde in the second row :P

    Just a heads up teehee

    Oh and totally agreed with your English rant, and thank you for pointing out that it is not the artists’ fault so much as the big companies who have not been paying as much attention as they should have 

  38. Haha, Simon! You’r facial expression! It’s the same one I had when I saw this video for the first time. Someone recommended Super Junior to me and well… after seeing this, It took me a while to actually take them seriously. I do like them now but it took some getting used to :P

  39. omg in the beggining of DJ Doc’s song I’ve heard so many “bunda”s LOL (bunda = not so nice way to say butt in Portuguese xD)

  40. irritablevowel

    Totally agree with the English rant.  One of the things I’ve noticed in the kpop fandoms is this tendency of fans to say that their favorite group shouldn’t be criticized because they’re doing their best.  Well, these companies really want these groups to go international, particularly to super consumer North America.  That may not have been the case before, but it is now, and that means doing their “best” includes making the minor effort necessary to make sure they are speaking correctly to an audience they’re trying to sell to.   Doing their best will require the higher ups to step away from their ego a bit, and leave all decisions regarding English in music, advertising, etc. to be approved by someone who speaks the language FLUENTLY.
    This is why I think EYK is valuable.  They are holding these companies accountable for what they put out there, and let them know people are listening.

  41. the dj doc song is called I’m this kind of person..saw the name at allkpop..love the song..and it’s strange to know that you guys cant distinguish suju members :d

  42. OH MY GOD.
    SUJU DON’T DON HIP TRUSTS AND HENRY’S VIOLIN SOLO. FOR THE WIN.
    F**K YEA.
    i love you guys. seriously.

  43. I FOUND THE SUPER DISTRACTING HOT BLONDE BACKUP DANCER IN PSY’S VIDEO! man ur right…he IS distracting….

  44. oh my gosh…i’ve been a hardcore ELF for a WHILE, and the whole missing-members thing is SUPER complicated. hangeng (chinese member): terminated his contract w/ SM entertainment, after all that slave contract controversy, and he’s solo in china now. kangin: in the military, comes back in april. kibum: still in suju, not active rite now cuz he’s focusing on his acting career. heechul: in the army. the guy playing the violin, Henry: only promotes w/ SJM. that means theyre only promoting suju w/ 9 members right now. oh and by the way, in that old picture of suju u have…the 2 guys on the right? they’re still active, u prob just made a mistake in recognizing them ^-^

  45. well first of all 
    two of the people in there (the two on the right) are still currently in superjunior
    kim kibum is still part of superjunior but he left before sorry sorry to focus on his acting – which is the shame cause he was my favorite, he had such a funny personality, well i dont know him personally but what i can see from the variety shows he was in.
    kangin went to the military.

  46. ksdfek thanx to you guys I started to love DJ DOC – 나이런사람이야! <3. Thanx ^^ [ps it was only i liked in  that playlist... ok i'm lieing, I liked SuJu too but i knowed that song (I like jrock)]

  47. Why did you kill off two of the active members but left Hangeng who is no longer with SM.

  48. Pallavi Sambasivan

    I actually like the violin….but I do have to agree about their hair….have you guys seen old DBSK mvs? oh god the hair xD Um in the pic, on the left side are Kimbum (who unofficially left the group to focus on acting) and Kangin (who is coming out of the army this year sometime) and the two on the right are Yesung and Donghae and they are very much in Suju…they’re also in Mr. Simple, you just don’t remember them ^^” 

    Anyway, I love PSY and DJ DOC! I’m so glad you guys did them cause i don’t think most people into kpop know them….while you’re at it can you do some Epik High? That would be awesomesauce! <3 you guys!

  49. Haha I’m so glad you guys did suju!! And martina, lol they weren’t killed off its just over the years suju’s members has changed because of people leaving (Kibum and Hangeng) and people enlisting in the army (Kangin and Heechul).  Everyone else just looks really different!!  And BTW the guy playing the violin is Henry from Super Junior M! ~keke fun fact

  50. I don’t know whether anyone has answered this yet, but I think the musictitle for DJ Doc’s song is translated as “I’m this kind of a person”

  51. Although I like SuJu’s newer look, I prefer the old sound. Less autotune on voices that don’t need it is always a good thing… 

  52. Lol Martina no they didnt kill them!

    Circled Suju member from left to right: Kibum hes been acting he was in deep rooted tree (good drama btw)

    Kangin hes in the military he will be dischared on april of this year yay!

    Yesung the voice of SJ lol he looks alittle different cause of that hair…smh…he was on immortal song 2 you should check out his cover of Boohwal-Sarang halsurok it was amazing!

    Donghae hes the fishy prince :) also the hair is what makes him look different, and he seems to have grown more he looks more mature now. He and Eunhyuk did the song Oppa Oppa im pretty sure youve heard it.

    Well hope it helps :)

  53. Sascha Wong

    Lovin’ the DJ DOC song. When I first saw that Super Junior video, I was thinking, “No. That’s not them. Really?” I was honestly scared they were trying to envision Final Fantasy characters with that hair. 

  54. Don’t Don was actually one of the first SuJu (and Kpop) songs I was introduced to, and still remains to be one of my favorite songs of theirs! And as for the violin, I love it (then again I’m a violinist), because I was introduced to Henry’s amazing playing skills (though his feature is no where as complex as other things I’ve heard him play). Also I really like the choreography of Don’t Don (not referring to the thrusting), and that they are in places other than oddly lit rooms! I even like their clothes here! The only thing I don’t care much for are their hairstyles, but looking at other Kpop videos released around that time, that kind of hair was normal.

  55. punkyprincess92

    that DJ DOC song! i heard so many times on shows!! but i’ve never known what is was!! and the kick part in that song was what Onew did on Yahaensung!!!
    and i’ve seen a few SuJu old songs and they left me like…….O_O…………i DEFINITELY like the Super Junior now!!! and as much as i love Heechul but his hair in some of them…………well truthfully they all had terrible hair!!! but once he even looked he could be in a Visual Kei group!!

  56. You guys should review Shinhwa, G.O.D, and H.O.T!!!

  57. This is so AWESOME! I was just thinking the other day that it would be awesome if you guise reviewed the older Super Junior songs especially Don’t Don and U which were both before your “Kpop  Time”.  Y’all are psychics (or the fan that requested it is).

    I agree.  The violin solo is really smooth.  The guy playing the violin is Henry (Canadian/Chinese) who is a member of Super Junior M.  (Personally, I believe him and Zhou Mi should be added to the main group)

    Also, their hair is a little ridiculous, but I love the rock beat and the song.  It’s so powerful…. and a nice break from the Pop/Hip Hoppy stuff (which i enjoy immensely as well) that they usually sing.   

  58. ahhhhhhhhhhh! thank you soooooooo much Spzimefrkl xxxxxxxxxx <3 xxxxxxxxx :'D love it! <3
    (and ofc Simon and Martina for using it)

  59. Nice rant on the bad English… couldn’t agree more!

  60.  Don’t Don is one of my favorites, I too like a lot of their old music but also the new as well.  Gotta say, Siwon looks awful “good” in that video :)

  61.  Love seeing SJ on here <3 but LOL if you thought Don't Don was traumatizing, watch Twins. Eventually that song and MV grew on me, but when I first saw it I didn't know what to think. Don't Don was much easier to swallow than that. I love all of SJ's old stuff though. As for Don't Don, I just have to say that Henry's violin solo is epic and amazing. And as for the members, if you include Henry, there are 14 in this video, and again including Henry and Zhou Mi they're now down to… 11 I think? Heechul and Kangin are in the army, Hangeng sued and left, and Kibum disappeared somewhere to supposedly work on his acting career. Two of the ones you circled, Yesung and Donghae, are very much still with the group… Yesung is my favorite XD Also, I have to mention, there are a few really amazing live versions of Don't Don that are worth checking out (the one from SS2 and the recent one they've done for SS3/SM Town/possibly SS4 I don't know).

  62. to answer ur question, from left to right to bottom is Kibum, Kangin, Yesung, Donghae…Yesung and donghae are still active in sj, but kibum left to prsue his acting career and kangin is in the military (coming back around april). below kangin is Hankyung (or hangeng) he left because SM was sorta abusing him. he went solo back at his hime in China. and heechul is not pictured in this but he is also in the army as of sept 1. 2011 ;)

  63. hahahaha don’t don :’D at least it’s not U, where they all looked like drag addicts (all but heechul of course, he looked like a princess, what with those long black hair and cutesy fringe…) 

    I really liked today’s mix, it’s a great segment, one I look forward every week ~o~

  64. um simon and martina half the guys u circled are still there. BUT ANYWAY thank you for finally doing a super junior video (btw imma huge ELF) and the video request was hilarious hahaha, fellow crazy elf..martina i hope ur foot/ankle gets better quick!!

  65. I think SuJu’s Knock out is way more traumatizing… :D
    Before I knew more about super junior, I didn’t like to watch the music video, because I always thought that Heechul looked like a crazy psychopath who will come and kill while I’m sleeping O_O

  66. To be completely honest, I like the old Super Junior Songs more than their new stuff.   I’m not really a Elf or anything, but I have listened to all of their songs at least once…and I like the older stuff way better than the newer stuff. . . . I guess the hair and such doesn’t really bother me either since I was into Jpop/rock before Kpop. . . 

  67. I’m going to ignore the question about changing the group members of SJ, and just assume that is you guys being facetious, because really?  o.0

    But seriously, you had not seen Don’t Don before?  Henry’s violin solo is EPIC!  That boy is so immensely talented, and honestly he is rather wasted with SME, but at least I get to see him every time I watch this MV and everytime there is a new SJ-M MV. 

    Also, thanks for adding Psy in here.  I had heard of him but not actually remembered sitting down and taking time to listen to him.  I have yet another KPop artist to groove to.  :D

  68. I’m not ashamed to say that i LOOOOVVEEE Don’t Don! :p It’s got so much SPUNK! XD It’s awesome to see a different side to their abilities :)

  69. thisisjustforfunval

    On the Super Junior pic you guys should have circled Hangeng, the extremely blone one it center, he sued SM to be released from his contract.

  70. yes, Don´t Don was traumatizing but don´t forget Tri-angle by DBSK… really… those looks.. the song is good but is too much, I mean they have BoA and Trax ( intense)… and their dance, is like too much information for my brain!!!! (one good thing … Micky is the only one who looks hot ;P)

  71. In the pic of super junior the guy with the shaved head is KangIn

  72. I hafta say that the DJ DOC video has a very definite Latin feel to it…it was like being back in Peru and watching the music videos there…it was very odd to have the feeling of Latin hip-hop while hearing the Korean…very odd.

  73. LOL! If Don Don was traumatizing, perhaps you’ve not watched Show Me Your Love by DBSK & SuJu. All their cutesy days. Or something more in line with Don Don, DBSK’s “Rising Sun” & “O” or SuJu’s “U”.

    Honestly, Don Don was one of my fav SuJu song. But after they came out with Sorry Sorry, everything went down the drain since then, IMO. Their songs became recycled and low quality. I  really hated them after Sorry Sorry. Still do. But then, it’s the songs/company I hate, not the members.

  74. I LOVE Henry’s (SuJuM) violin solo…it’s like my favorite part of the entire music video.  This SuJu video totally reminds me of the totally awesome 80′s hair bands which I grew up with and for some reason I just love it, but also love all of SuJu’s new stuff as well.  Thank you Simon & Martina for adding this to your K Crunch Cocktail this week.  Great stuff!!

  75. If you thought Don’t Don was traumatizing, just watch DBSK’s Tri-Angle, it’ll BLOW YOUR MIND. o.O It’s basically like Don’t Don but with BoA and Trax featuring with the violins and rock music but more outrageous clothing and hairstyles. Thinking about it gives me shivers. 

    • IKR? That was my first thought when I was watching Don’t Don. SM stylists have SO MUCH to answer for. I’m just curious if they actually thought that looked good? Or were they supposed to look like they stepped out of a video game? Or was it just supposed to be weird so that it would be memorable?

      Even worse, those poor boys were forced to go out in public like that. SO cringe-inducing. 

  76. Absolutely love your K-Crunch list, just discovered two new artists I think I’ll continue to listen to today – Psy and DJDOC.
    Thank you two so much for these!

  77.  I’ve been addicted to Don’t Don since its version with Changmin  and The Trax at  SM Town L.A. Changmin raspy voice make it so much better.
    This is SOOOOOOOO EPIC, You MUST watch it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LR1bDpUcYc&feature=related

  78. Hey! That’s Yesung on the upper right and Donghae on the lower right.

  79. For the SuJu pic: (from left to right) Kibum is currently inactive and works as an actor/model, Kangin is doing his military service and gets discharged next month, Yesung (top right) and Donghaw (right bottom row) are still promoting with the group but have changed their hairstyles.

  80. i’m gonna talk only bout suju. far left (the one that u circled) is Kibum. he’s MIA bcus he’s too busy wif his acting carrier. then the one that u circle next is Kangin. he’s been MIA bcus he went to the millitary and most probably will be back this year. the other 2 is Yesung and Donghae. they both r still active in suju. anyway, for me, i thnk don’t don is one of suju’s best song. to me, it’s unique especially bcus of henry’s part (violin part). and i like suju do rocks.! 

    • THAT IS KANGIN?!?!?!  And YESUNG, DONGHAE?!?!?! W.O.W! Okay so maybe not ALL of them are vampires, seeing as how those guys have changed a LOT! Thank you for posting this info for those of us who were not into K-Pop at Suju’s beginning! :)

  81. I’m proud to say that I have Psy’s song Right Now in my ipod even before I actually knew who he was! :D

    Then I found out he’s from YG and I was like~ “That’s why!!” Kkkk~

  82. Super Junior Don´t Don is sooo much better live!! And Henry´s violin Solo is also much better live

  83. You guys didn’t like Don Don that much! I love it! But I also really like Jrock, so Im used to this sound. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea.

    But this song was not so different from the others at that time. DBSK also had Triangle and rising sun. Back then, kpop was a mix of Jrock and American music. 

    Oh and you guys are having a hard time reconizing the members. Two of them are still in suju, lol. Kangin is in the military, Kibum has been gone a while, dont know when he is coming back. Btw, in that video, all 13 members were there plus Henry who was playing the violin. So 14 members. More than we have now, which is 10. 

    Plus suju has at some point stop againg and now their aging backwards! lol. That’s my oppas (big ELF)

  84. Don’t don is actually kind of where my kpop interest really started!
    (well technically it was suju full house, a variety program they did waaaaaay back in the day with foreign exchange students, which lead me to search for their music)
    I actually liked the style of the music, but that’s probably because before I got into
    kpop I was more into Jrock-Jpop xD ( a transition that seems to be pretty common)
    I actually still like the song.. especially because of henry! That boy really deserves
    a lot more opportunity to shine.. in my opinion his talent is being wasted in super junior
    he really should try to start a solo career..

  85. Psy is one of the only people i’ve seen get hard core hip hop people and Kpop fans to stand and jump the music in unison. i guess he has a super power or something. 

  86. all the way to the left circled is Kim Kibum he’s acting right now (no one is sure about the bts story about this whole thing,cause other members are actors and still do SuJu promotions), still technically a SuJu member but hasn’t been active since ‘Sorry Sorry’ promotions started. 

    The one circled next to him is Kangin, he’s in the army after getting into an “altercation” at a bar. aka send him away for 2 year and pray no one remembers

    the one circled at the top right is Yesung, he’s still present at all SuJu things, he doesn’t do a lot of variety shows though he is also a member or K.R.Y along with maknaes Ryeowook and Kyuhyun.

    and the one on the bottom right is Donghae………….he’s been there way before a lot of them and he’s still there, he’s best friends with Eunhyuk and Siwon (he did ‘Oppa Oppa’ with Eunhyuk) i guess Donghae is the vampire you were talking about.

    the funny thing is you didn’t circle the only member who isn’t apart of SuJu anymore and that is Hangeng (the blonde in the middle) which i guess means you know who he is.

    • We recognized Hangeng but didn’t know why we didn’t seem him in SuJu. Getting to know SuJu is like reading a novel with 13+ main characters. You have to be dedicated! Hahaha!

      • very true. it took me a long time to learn who Yesung was cause he’s never around except on stage and radio shows.

      • It took me a year to memorize their names and to distinguish them. I kid you not. I was so proud when I could finally name them all to my friend who is an ELF and got me into this group. Only ELFs are dedicated enough to do this, lol. 

  87. i think my suju oppars drank the elixir of life. forever young and i am forever fangirling. HEHEHE.

  88. So about the Suju guys from left to right: Kibum he is right now acting and put his activities on hold with the rest of Suju perhaps if you have seen the drama Deep Rooted Tree you will find him there. Next is Kangin who is in military and he will be back in April. Then is Yesung who has always been there, perhaps Martina has heard of Cinderella’s stepsister ost, well he’s the one singing it and he looks like this (photo the one on the right). Then is Donghae who has also always been there and is the one on the left in the photo I put in this post. He is the one who sings the Oppa Oppa single with Eunhyuk.
    Hope it helps. And btw even if the fashion style at the time wasn’t the best, the song was pretty different and badass for the time. If you have time I invite you to look for the translation of the lyrics and I’m sure you’ll find it pretty interesting.

  89. Thank you so much for touching on English in K-Pop! I used to be one of those snobby indie kids and thought “uh it’s kinda tacky they’ve random nonsensical English phrases in Korean/Chinese/Japanese pop songs…” but now that I’ve come to like K-Pop as well, I’m hearing that same comment from friends when I introduce K-Pop songs to them.

    And I do get why they can’t overlook the Engrish to enjoy what’s actually a really good song, because I was like that too. It’s just too distracting!

    And despite knowing that’s how Confucian societies are like (I live in one after all…) I cringe for the native/fluent English speakers in groups that are made to sing lines that make no sense whatsoever.

    If these groups really want to expand to the US and other predominantly English-speaking markets, they need to realise how distracting bad English phrases can turn potential fans away!

    Sorry for the very long comment and I hope your leg’s much better now, Martina! :)

  90. yes i just watched SuJu’s “Knockout” and now YOU HAVE to watch it… its toooo funny! xD and im a pretty big SuperJunior fan. but i was like NO throughout the video lol

  91. OMG psy is AWESOME. This is SOOO going on my iPod. 
    AND SO IS DJ DOC. OH LAWD. 
    And violin solo?! DEAR GOD, HENRY. You’re a freaking BEAST. <3

  92. By the way, Don’t Don was the very first video I watched of Super Junior. This was the boy group I fell in love with…. but it’s true that whenever I look back at this video, I snicker a little (their hair and bad-assness is just too cute).

  93. Oh, and another thing I wanted to say about “Don’t Don” is that it’s imo Super Junior trying to be hardcore when they’re clearly not hardcore. The concept they have in the music video was was one that they hard for just the song because they started out with a cute image, beside whatever “Twins (Knock Out) was, seeing as one of their other early songs “Miracle” is really cute and energetic.

  94. I honestly have been waiting to see Simon and Martina review an old video of Super Junior (and BEG and SNSD). Teehee.

    The first two comments already explained who the four SJ members are. So yeah. :D I also agree that they do not age. Just look  at Sungmin! Haha. Still cute as ever. XD

  95. I think a saw an awesome live version of this Super Junior Song on Youtube somewhere. But never the video.

  96. Thank you, you just made my morning perfect with these great videos. Now to tackle the latest snow blizzard here in Minneapolis.

  97. Don’t Don video: There aren’t actually any extra members in that video, though I suppose if you pick up from Bonomana, then there are a few surprises. Hangeng is still there, dancing at the front with his ice-blonde hair, and this is before Kibum mysteriously disappeared and Kangin left for the army. The boy playing the violin is Henry, a canadian music prodigy (no really, he’s some kind of genius that SM found through his dominance of the Canadian classical scene)  and currently a member of Super Junior M. SM had originally planned to add him into Super Junior with Don’t Don as they had added Kyuhyun in 2006, but the backlash from the fans was so strong that he didn’t reappear on official Super Junior albums ever again. So- the group didn’t really change members.
    And yes, Eeteuk is a vampire. This is the only explanation.

  98. It seems like suju don’t don is now an old song haha
    it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a picture of the 13…
    about the members you encircled, they are Kibum, who (i think) is busy with his acting career, Kangin who enrolled in the army, Yesung and Donhae who are still both performing with the others…
    nice song selection by the way!

  99. in DJDOC’s video what kpop videos were they parodying? <<<< weird word… haha lol and yea i know i was like o.0… with the SuJu video. hahaha x]]]

  100. There actually IS a live version without the violin solo but with a guitar solo XD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQCyc8D_PA

  101. if you thought don’t don was weird you HAVE to watch their debut ‘twins (knock out)’ it’s the worst mv i’ve ever seen hahah and trust me, you will be having nightmares about heechul, the faces he makes omg.

  102. Aahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!! Oh my gosh, I agree that SJ look really, REALLY weird in this, but its still a pretty good song (Henry’s violin solo! Random as heck, but still awesome)

    A suggestion for you guys! If you think Don’t Don was hard to handle, you HAVE TO watch their debut song, Twins (Knock Out). Keep an eye out for Heechul’s hair. It will ‘BLOW YOUR MIND’. *see what I did there?*

  103. Just a small piece of information.
    DJ DOC’s “나이런사람이야” is actually composed by PSY.
    Psy himself often performed this song saying “I’ll show you what the original is”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80_JP5GHd8 

    I also think San E’s ‘맛 좋은 산’ would have made a valid entry on this list. :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jx3qP9LiqI 

  104. “…What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who are include English for the sake of…what?
    South Korea is a country where people predominantly speak Korean, so who is the English in a song or on a billboard?

    Lol, I’m not nit-picking because this is teh interwebz…I just thought it was funny that there were mistakes in your English rant, lol.  I love you guys!

    As for Super Junior, I kind of feel like their current stuff is more like their personality than “Don’t Don” ever was.  And Heechul reminds me of Axel from Kingdom Hearts.

  105. Can you do It’s you or No Other… and if you want to see the real SJ when they debuted, watch their debut MV “Knockout”… you’ll get a taste of what KPOP is 7 years ago LOL

  106. “What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who are include English for the sake of…what?”…as for the english of this post I give this a…3.5 out of 5 (as I found more typing errors too).
    In the Suju pic you should have circled Hankyung cause he’s left too T^T
    Donghae’s been pretty busy with acting in foreign tv shows and such (oh! and he’s just released Oppa oppa with Eunhyuk). Apart from the Super Show happening right now I don’t know what else Yesung is doing…

  107. =)) I’m surprised you guys didn’t say anything about the English in Don’t Don :)) “Stop banging my head my eyes are red”  or something like that =))

  108. Strange that you were surprised by olde Super Junior, have you not seen “Tri-Angle” by DBSK feat BoA and the Trax? Cause there is a whole lot of “uhhh…’ in that.

  109. I love Henrys violin solo XDDD 

  110. Asking about Super Junior members… You could get some pretty long responses on that. They were originally suppose to be 12 member rotational group that changed members every year, and then SM added Kyuhyun making the member list permanent with Shindong, Leeteuk, Heechul, Siwon, Sungmin, Ryeowook, Donghae Eunhyuk, Hankyung, Kibum, Yesung, Kangin and Kyuhyun. The four people circled in the picture (left to right) are Kibum, Kangin, Yesung and Donghae. I will refer you to their Wiki to read about all the member changes through out the years because it is long. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Junior P.S. The violin guy in the “Don’t Don” MV is Henry, and he is only an additional member, along with Zhou Mi, of Super Junior M.

  111. I saw the PSY video a long time ago, somehow it was playing on my computer??? Never knew who it was and now I do, thanks. I have to say I have so wanted to do that while sitting in TRAFFIC!!

  112. tnx so much for his! i loved dj doc and didn’t know it untill now!

  113. Kibum, Kangin, Yesung and Donghae! :D Kibum has put his idol career on hold at the moment, to pursue his dream of acting, and Kangin is currently in the military, will be discharged this year! Yesung and Donghae just look dramatically different with their hairstyles, but they’ve been present in everything including Mr Simple. :P But I do agree, they look forever young. I need their secrets. 

  114. in SJ. 1st guy, he’s focusing on his acting career, and I think, he isn’t coming back to SJ anymore XD. 2nd guy… currently in Army. 3rd guy and 4th guy, Yesung and Donghae, who became sooo gorgeous as time goes by :D

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