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It’s standard for us to do these comparative TL;DRs whenever we come back from traveling. It seems like we’ve done two of these in a row now: our last one was on China vs Korea, and this week we’re talking about California vs Korea. Woot!

Of course, we’re not talking about all of California in this video. We’re just talking about our experiences and what we’ve noticed. Even our LA friends were surprised when we talked about how friendly everyone is to us! So, I’m sure your experiences won’t line up with ours in many ways, and we’d love to hear where they differ!

There were a few things we didn’t talk about in this video, though, so we’ll mention them here:

LA Traffic

I’ll hear no complaints about it at all, thank you very much! I’ve seen shows in which people complain about the traffic. Anthony Bourdaine complained about it, and had a montage of people complaining about it. You have nothing to complain about! ORRRR…we were just exceptionally lucky. We never hit a single traffic jam. Things moved slower sometimes, but it was overall very smooth everywhere we drove. In Korea, the traffic sucks all day long. We just crawl to the studio going 20-30km an hour most of the time, even at 11PM at night on a Wednesday. It’s always bad here. LA Traffic, not that bad at all!

Pretentious Restaurant Names

Is it just me, or do fancy pants restaurants have single syllable names too often? FEED. LIME. GRUB. FRESH. Pfft. Too hoity toity. All of them with their minimalistic font and take on deconstructed reconstructed food. I want to hear a name like “Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles.” HELLS YEAH! That’s what I’ll eat. I won’t trust any restaurant with one syllable for a name, and I saw a few like that in LA.

Creative Food

Now, this might be a bit debatable, and I imagine if you’re a patriotic Korean you might get defensive on this point, but – from our brief experiences – there seems to be a lot more of a creative spirit for cuisine in California than there is in Korea.

We went to so many restaurants that offered so many different new kinds of foods. Different flavour combinations, fusion, techniques. Just…whoa. In Korea, though, we don’t really see that much diversity in cuisine. A sundubu is a sundubu is a sundubu. Where’s a Mexican sundubu? Or an Indian naengmyeon? Most restaurants we walk by in Korea offer “Salad Steak Sandwich Pasta Wine Beer Coffee,” in which they offer everything but do nothing really well.

Don’t get us wrong: we love Korean food. You’ve seen us drool over it in many many videos. But sometimes we crave some diversity, something new, and Korea rarely offers anything new when it comes to food.

Creative Spaces

We were ultra inspired when we went to the Jubilee Project Conference, not so much by the conference itself, which was lovely, but by the freaking place it was being held in. We were in The Great Company. It’s a gigantic and freaking GORGEOUS space where people can be creative. It’s a reconstructed warehouse, and – holy hell – I felt like robbing the place. I don’t mean grabbing stuff from there and running: I wanted to rob the place itself. Like, this is my place now, GTFO.

It’s the studio of our dreams, really. We love the Eatyourkimchi Nasty Studio, don’t get us wrong, but it’s a bit small. It’s big by Korean standards, but compared to the Great Company, it’s puny. It had a giant kitchen, huge living room, presentation spaces, a recording studio, and just loads of room. We want something like that. We’d love to take a warehouse in Korea and build a bigger studio in it, where we can film our cooking segments, where we can have Korean bands that don’t have music videos come in and shoot a live session, where we can have other YouTubers come in and shoot videos if they need a space. The Great Company: having a place like that is our next big dream. I think it’s gonna happen. Our place, we’re discovering, is falling apart. It’s leaking all over (and monsoon season just hit, so we’re gonna be in a lot of trouble) and it’s got some other quirks to it that don’t make it ideal.

Ok, the point here isn’t to talk about our dream space and what we want to do in Korea. What I wanted to say is that we were in a few places in LA that were just gorgeous creative environments, and I don’t see that in Korea too much. The real estate is just too small and the rent is too damn high. Maybe outside of Seoul it’s doable, but in Seoul, in Hongdae especially, it’s not really common, and we were really envious of the creative spaces in LA. Like, really really.

Alright I might have wandered a bit in that last point. Sorry! We just felt really inspired after leaving LA. The food was creative, the spaces were creative, and talking with different YouTubers there made us feel creative, and meeting our app developer made us feel creative, and we just came back to Korea inspired as hell! YAAAGGGHHHH!!!!! TIME TO MAKE MOAR MOVIES!

So…*cough* that’s it for this week’s TL;DR. Let us know what you think. If you’re in Korea or LA, or if you’ve visited either, we’d love to hear your input and see how it aligns with ours :D

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  1. coyo kaleido

    Las Vegas… depends on the season. I was there in July and it was still 105F (45.5C) at 9pm. Less humidity = less heat capacity = heats up faster and cools down faster which means the desert can be toasty warm during the day and pretty cold at night, depending on the time of year. :3

  2. So sad I couldn’t go to the LiNK Summit even though I go to Pepperdine.. T__T
    Also, the weather was definitely a bit chillier during June and July, and even more so since Malibu and LA are closer to the ocean than where I live.
    Glad you two enjoyed SoCal! :)

  3. miriamTee

    Hello!! Miriam here, you might remember me from my K-indie video request (Byul.org)!
    While watching the video for this TL;DR and reading the blog post, I couldn’t keep myself from commenting on my lovely home, California. I’ve read through most of the comments, and everyone pretty much nailed it, but I have a few things to add.

    Creative spaces: I really wanted to comment about this! I couldn’t sit still when i was reading this part of your blog post! I think what you guys are doing in Korea is amazing, and to hear that you have bigger dreams for your project is great!
    I am a creative and love to hear about companies and organizations that help designers, artists, creative thinkers, musicians, etc. in any way. It really makes me happy! I wish I was in Korea and could contribute. I would love to see this become a reality!
    All I could think of, as far as a way to help, was to recommend creative spaces in San Francisco for inspiration. Just to name a few, check out The Glint, WorkshopSF, and Makeshift Society.

    One last word:
    Not that I’m bias or anything buuuuut, next time your in CA check out San Francisco. Pack a jacket, bring a scarf, and comfy walking shoes. There is tones to see, eat, and learn (the food!!! Oh the FOOD!). A Great resource for your next visit is the blog,
    The Blod Italic. It’s full of great info, mostly about San Francisco but also includes the Bay Area (Norcal) and some Socal. So much California knowledge!

    VERY last thing…. LIVING ROOM CONCERTS! Yup, you read it correctly! Don’t know if you have heard of this beautiful phenomenon, but it’s a very magical event, and I think it would be a great way to promote K-indie bands. The Bold Italic, I mentioned above, has a great blog post about three organizations that curate these musical-speakeasy events worldwide!!!
    http://www.thebolditalic.com/articles/5383-3-ways-to-go-to-a-living-room-concert-in-sf

    I hope this was helpful and inspiring :)
    Thanks for all the videos and blog posts. You all are rockstars!

  4. Sapphire_Bryony
    Sapphire_Bryony

    The portion size thing is an American thing, I think. I’m nowhere near the west coast (Cleveland gal here!) but the waffle size you mention sounds like a normal waffle to me… :/

    So glad people were nice and friendly! I’ve noticed that I’ve never really run into the
    nasty/snobby city people” trope when visiting NYC/DC/Chicago.

    Also, I evidently need to move to Korea. Small talk is my kryptonite.

  5. Eotteokaji

    Haha I don’t think large portions are a California thing, I think that’s like…an America thing. The portions at that breakfast restaurant sounded the same as restaurants in the midwest where I’m from. Waffles in Korea don’t cut it for me!!! They’re like the size of a cookie!!! I miss big waffles that take up the whole plate ㅠ_ㅠ

  6. mochibunny99
    mochibunny99

    I’m glad you guise had a great time in Cali! I live in Los Angeles and it’s nice to hear what you think about us. ^.^ You guise made me laugh when you talked about small-talk and how awkward it was. I know how you feel though at least. I’m a pretty shy person and when I go out in public, some random people come up to me and comment about my teal colored hair. I usually just smile and laugh at the person and walk away as soon as I can. Traffic, traffic, traffic. You both are just plain lucky, but that’s cool! Eek! Sorry about those food proportions! I know they are crazy, especially at places like Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles! By the way, when you two went to Roscoe’s, did you go to Randy’s Donuts? A beach with tar? Wow. I’ve actually never heard that. And cold weather? Double wow. Next time the both of you visit
    California (hopefully soon), you should go to Huntington or Seal Beach. No tar in the sand, perfect beach Summer weather, and some semi-stereotypes. I honestly never thought our buildings and food to ever be creative or inspiring, but that’s great you guise did!
    Most people are friendly most are not. It’s like that anywhere you go really or you two just make people nice by just be near them.
    That sounds pretty logical. I wonder what types of things I would compare between Korea and California. HRRRRMMMMM. A wish of mine is to travel to South Korea and Japan. It would be awesome to meet the EYK family! Yup. Proud to be a Nasty!!!! :D

  7. sailorpluto
    sailorpluto

    Well the portion size is totally a problem all over America!!! I think it is a huge contributing factor in the over weightiness that is exploding in America. My man and I usually try to split food when we go out bc everywhere gives you soooooo much!!! Its crazy! The weather is a lot chillier bc of no humity and its the same for like colorado and Arizona/New Mexico . they have really warm months but most of the year is way cooler than you expect!!! love u guys xoxo

  8. omomoyoudidnt

    Truth! I live in a semi-arid climate–in regular people speak that means it is desert-y but usually not quite. Dry, little to no humidity, but generally quite nice year-round the closer you are to the coast.

    Never encountered a genuine hand-shaker before! With any big city you see a range of personalities. I can’t recall anybody being incredibly rude (except for the driver who cut me off two days ago).

    LA freeways must be avoided at all costs. LA downtown should be avoided, too. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

  9. I love how it was a shock that California is colder than imagined. I live in San Francisco and my mother is a part of a program that hosts international students that want to learn English at a university here. Just about the first thing everyone does when they arrive is complain about the cold then go out to shop for a jacket.

  10. When I’ve gone to California for family vacations, it wasn’t so much L.A., but the San Francisco/Lake Tahoe area. I do remember packing sweatshirts because even in the summer, San Francisco could get a bit chilly. I don’t really remember huge portions of food (although I can imagine) but I do remember being out to dinner with my parents at a restaurant. Whenever the waiter noticed my bread plate was empty, they’d put a new roll on it. After maybe the second time that happened, my dad decided that we had enough bread and we had to turn over/hide our bread plate so they wouldn’t give us another one.

  11. magicsmarties

    TL;DR request:
    I saw your recent Twitter post ( http://bit.ly/1qTvJCm ) regarding black face on Korean TV. As a person of Korean descent who was born and raised in the States, it makes me incredibly uncomfortable watching shows (Korean or American) that rely on forms of cultural insensitivity for a laugh. I know it’s a touchy subject, and you probably like keeping things on the lighter side, but as foreigners living in Korea, how do you feel seeings things like black face in Korean media, things that would be considered totally not okay in your native countries? And does it seem like any shows or networks are making efforts to stop, especially considering increasing immigrant populations in the country and global broadcast of their shows?

  12. somethingwittyhere
    somethingwittyhere

    First, ya’ll are amaze balls and I love your blog! Second, as a person who has lived all over the US ( Atlanta, NYC, Seattle, the Bay Area, etc.,) people are definitely great at small talk/chit-chat on the West Coast. I think it comes from the more laid-back, chill lifestyle. But I’d have to say people in the South are far more friendly in a genuine way. In the South, you can make new friends in 5 seconds flat as long as you have even one ting in common to talk about.

    California by far has the best overall weather though. Korea sounds like Georgia, and that equals heat and humidity. YUCK!

    Keep on being awesome!

  13. You guys are so cute! But why didn’t you two check the weather in California before packing? It may just be the Texan in me talking, but California is pretty chilly to me. Since I have relatives there, I visit a lot and always make sure to bring sweaters and hoodies!

    Also, about the cold beach water, didn’t you know that California shares ocean water with Alaska? At least that’s what my Californian cousin told me.

    I can’t wait for your next videos!

  14. Can you guys do a TL;DR on sasaeng fans plzzzzz…….Oh almost forgot….you soooo nastyyy

  15. Near where I study, there’s a salad bar/restaurant called The Slug and Lettuce, which I don’t think is the most confidence-inspiring name….

  16. SCA MAP AC

    Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles DOES have huge portion sizes, but if you go you’re supposed to know that. Portion sizes at most restaurants tend to be more than you can eat/enough that you’ll be REALLY DAMN FULL at the end.
    In terms of being polite – it really depends on where you are. Judging from the map of where you guys were for FroYo and that there’s a Roscoe’s in Pasadena, you were in one of the nicer parts of town that also tends to be primarily caucasian so you do have a lot more of a focus on being polite, and on customer service. If you were to go to more business – oriented, or more Asian areas, such as KTown or the San Gabriel Valley, customer service is definitely not as good as you would get somewhere in Pasadena or Westside. Same honestly applies to small talk.
    For the weather, you guys really arrived at a bad time. The joke is that summer doesn’t REALLY start in California until July, and the summer months are actually July – mid-October. June is honestly more spring-like, with cloudy mornings that clear up in the afternoon and weather that doesn’t really go up past 85, and will typically stay around a 75 high or so. (In other words, nice weather). However, the night temperatures really do drop, and we often have as much as a 30 degree (Fahrenheit) swing in temperature from night to day. It’ll easily be 90+ during the daytime, and it’ll drop very rapidly to 60 or 70 a few hours after sunset, so a lot of us get into the habit of carrying a thin sweater or light jacket around while we wear shorts and t-shirts or tank tops during the day.
    LA Traffic is bad compared to the rest of the West Coast, and probably the rest of the U.S. apart from New York, but compared to any major Asian city, PARTICULARLY Seoul or Beijing, and it’s not contest. Traffic is just so much worse in Asia because the population density is something like a billion times higher, BUT we do get something approaching Gangnam-level traffic on a few freeways during the middle of rush hour, but it’s usually a solid 30-60 kmh on most streets.
    Honestly, a lot of the restaurant names in LA can sound pretentious – but don’t let that deceive you. Yes, the food that they charge costs a bit more than you’d find at say, Roscoe’s or the Kogi Taco Truck, but it’s still damned good. A few prime examples are Pot, which is a Koreatown restaurant run by the same chef who created the Kogi Truck, and Animal, which never has a fixed menu and always has something creative in the mix (Fried Pigs Ears, Cheese Curds and Gravy on Fries). The creativity in LA isn’t just limited to the filming and architecture – it extends to the food culture as well. On the other side of things, we certainly have more than our share of Hole-in-the-wall soul food places, such as “Pollo a la Brasa” and “Borneo Kalimantan Cuisine”, to name a few. A lot of the places in LA really like to create Southern California takes on various cuisines, ranging from Mexican to Italian to Chinese and everything in-between. It’s essentially an LA remix of a classic foreign dish so that it’s more palatable to us SoCal natives and is easier to obtain the ingredients for. Also, if you ever want something creative and you’re back in the LA/Pasadena area, stop by Mix n’ Munch in South Pasadena. In their menu, amongst other eclectic items, is a nutella and strawberry sandwich. Don’t question. Just eat. It works. It is good. You will enjoy.
    In terms of creative spaces – the entire damn Hollywood industry, and many, many independent filmmakers and YouTubers ARE based in California, after all. It’s only proper that we have amazing studios. USC’s School of Cinematic Arts is only a small division of USC (Population/student body representation wise) and still has top-of-the-line studios (4 or 5 of them, actually). Not to mention, there are lots of independent filmmakers from USC, Chapman, UCLA and other local film programs that have low budgets and get very creative with the spaces they use as studios, and as they work their way up the networking ladder that is the film business, they bring that same creativity in designing and choosing studios to work in. This kind of cutting edge mentality also exists in the Westside particularly, which is known for having lots of tech firms that really loves this casual, creative environment to think and work in.

    ANYWAYS, that got REALLY long REALLY fast, but as somebody who knows and loves SoCal, I felt the urge to comment on essentially everything you guys talked about. – Oh, and about the tar? If you guys were near the Brea Tar Pits, that might of been an issue, LA does have a few random tar pits here and there, not sure if there are any by the beach. Otherwise, probably some sort of truck had an accident and just spilled tar, that’s almost never an issue at the beaches here.

  17. Clairellyn

    I grew up in Oregon (so not too terribly far from California), but I definitely noticed a similar kind of cultural difference when I moved to Norway. It’s not that people there don’t make small talk, but the thing that struck me was the difference in giving complements. Generally speaking, I think people in the US are comfortable giving out compliments to others, even people who are complete strangers. I can’t even count how many times I’ve gotten compliments I’ve gotten in the course of my life in the US from complete strangers on my hair, or some article of clothing, etc. but in Norway, I know exactly how many times I’ve received a compliment from a stranger, or even witnessed a compliment being given to a stranger: 0. And when I’ve given compliments to complete strangers while in Norway, they always look kind of shocked (pleasantly shocked, but shocked nonetheless). I’m not sure if it’s a cultural thing or just the specific people I’ve encountered (any Norwegians want to weigh in?), but it seemed in keeping with Martina’s comment about getting compliments on her hair in CA. And I agree, the Pacific Ocean is SO cold!!

  18. I am glad you liked California guys :) I’ve lived here my entire life (17 years)–I am definitely a California girl! Honestly I was SUPER SURPRISED by your experience. THE TAR? I have never had that happen to me EVER. I have never even hear of ANYONE having that issue but I live in the San Francisco area. Even so, I know LA and Southern California like the back of my hand–weird. But it’s kinda true that LA beaches are a little dirtier (because they are so popular and pollution) than some of the ones up north like Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo.
    I was also shocked that people were so nice to you guys because I have always thought California was a bit on the rude side (we are not all mean but I wouldn’t say we’re overly friendly to everyone). I am glad you guys ran into some nice people.
    I agree our weather is cool XD—I <3 my state :D!

  19. DesOkun

    Although I currently live in Texas (TX), USA, I was born in California (CA) and lived there until I was 13. Also, I still have family there. We just got back from a week and a half trip to CA by car in fact. We saw family and went to some of the common tourist stops. The heat in Los Angeles (LA) is different from in TX, but is just as annoying. The air conditioning in the places we went seemed to be broken or set way to high in CA. Drivers are pretty crazy in most places, but CA drivers are usually worse than TX drivers unless it is in bad weather when they all are really bad.

    The Pacific Ocean in CA is much, much colder than the Gulf in TX, and the sand is different. In CA, you sink into the sand more. The tar you were having trouble with is from all of the oil rigs off the coast. Also, the roads are made of tar in many cases as well, at least they were when I was young. Northern CA tends to be colder than Southern CA. Nights tend to be cooler because of either the desert or ocean breezes.

  20. Alissou

    I traveled to California in last october and the weather was amazingly nice for that time of the year! Of course we couldn’t swim but it was hot enough to wear dresses :D And the beach were pretty clean I didn’t saw any tar ! I guess you weren’t lucky on that time :/ And about driving I was truly afraid on the highway because most of the time no one was using their turn signal :( But people were really friendly and open! I also have made a lot of small talks with sellers, and passerby ^^ But about the food amount, to me it was normal. Actually Mcdonald’s burgers were smaller than the ones in France ! >xx< Please continue your super videos which have made me discover so many things about Korea :D Et pleins de bisous ^v^

  21. kaynichelle
    kaynichelle

    Real talk, I think people in America, generally, are polite. Not especially polite or overly polite. Not like Japan. But the issue is, people in Korea are so coarse and a little rude that Simon and Martina have just become accustomed to that. lol! One of the things that shocked me about living here is how friggin’ CUT THROAT everyone is! Like, in the year I have been here, I can count on ONE hand the number of times someone actually said “sorry” or “excuse me” after slamming into me on the sidewalk, stepping on my foot, shoving me aside on the bus/subway, and so on. I went to Japan for a weekend and was in awe when a lady said “sumimasen” just to look at some juice next to me in a convenience store! I literally stood there for 3 mins with stars in my eyes with gratitude. haha!

    Korea is just rough and ya’ll have gotten used to that.

  22. Speaking as a northern German who’s been to America quite a lot I don’t like the small-talk and chit-chat in America. Sometimes I even find the friendliness obviously fake and I honestly feel uncomfortable telling the cashier about my plans for the day. There’s just no reason for it. People at home are not unfriendly or anything, we just like to keep things to a minimum. My mom (from southern Germany) really enjoyed staying in Canada for some time and went to Superstore even more than once a day because she enjoyed people talking to her. I guess it’s just personal preference as to how much small talk you enjoy having ;)

  23. kawaii_candie
    kawaii_candie

    here’s my bit about small talk that i thought you guys might find interesting. in japan, most people don’t do it either, though it doesn’t seem to be as bad as what you’ve described about korea. and especially being a foreigner, people might randomly come up to you and ask you where you’re from. but yeah, nobody would comment about your hair or shorts. HOWEVER, in stores and such, there is zero small talk. in fact, if you go to a store, you’ll hear the staff count your things as they scan them (which is really pointless and annoying) and i was told that this is so that you don’t talk to them as they work!!! i was really surprised when i found out. but yeah, usually no small talk. (unless you are in a clothing store, where the sales girls will flip over backwards to be friendly to you so you buy more stuff) i am always surprised when i go back home to canada and a waitress in the restaurant or cashier in a store will just start randomly chatting to me about my nails or how cute my bag is. i think it’s nice though!!

  24. About the tar on the beach.. that’s not “normal”. Meaning, it’s not a natural occurrence. I grew up on the Gulf Coast (Houston) and frequented the beaches. That tar is what’s left over from past oil spills in the ocean/Gulf that eventually makes it way to shore. I’m sure you’ve seen the news in the past when a spill happens, and efforts are deployed for cleanup, including the cleaning of birds (using original Dawn for soap).

    • Oh.. and about desert living.. so I grew up in Houston (hot/humid most the year). I moved to Albuquerque in 2006, and had to adjust to desert climates–dry/low humidity (normally around 10%-15%, as opposed to Houston which is around 80%-90%). The first thing I noticed is that we don’t need to use coasters in ABQ… if you have a glass of ice water or iced tea sitting on the table, it doesn’t “sweat” (condensate), because the air is do dry here. Also, we rarely sweat–unless you’re doing something really physical. But just walking around, your clothes won’t stick to you. So, yes, during the day, if you’re in the sun, it is intense (you fell HOT), but in the shade, it’s feels 20 degrees cooler, and the nights are cool (highs around mid-90’s, lows in mid 60’s during the summer months).

  25. ProfessorPija

    Lol we Mexicans take soccer very seriously (ever since Mexico was eliminated from the World Cup my mom has banned even mentioning soccer in our house NO ERA PENAL!)so having to soccer fans get in a fight one being a Mexican fan isn’t very surprising.
    As for the beaches, I have never been to Playa Del Rey, but any other beach I have gone to (Venice, Long Beach, Santa Monica, most beaches in the San Diego area) have never had tar on them. Maybe trash and seaweed but never tar, that is actually the first time I heard of it. You also probably picked a cold day to go to the beach because around this time of year it’s good weather to go to the beach for most days. However, California weather is really bipolar. I live in Palm Springs and it’s super hot all day, but if I drive for 2 hours to LA it’s so fresh from the sea breeze. But the heat does not compare to Arizona where I used to live. Word of advice: if you’re gonna go to a city right by the coast it’s gonna be fresh and breezy during the day, but freezing at night.
    People in California are very chatty. You could be buying some groceries and you will end up telling the cashier about your plans in the weekend. People can be nice here but you’ll always encounter a meanie every now and then.
    You guys should visit California again sometime soon!

  26. ProfessorPija

    Lol we Mexicans take soccer very seriously (ever since Mexico was eliminated from the World Cup my mom has banned even mentioning soccer in our house NO ERA PENAL!)so having to soccer fans get in a fight one being a Mexican fan isn’t very surprising.
    As for the beaches, I have never been to Playa Del Rey, but any other beach I have gone to (Venice, Long Beach, Santa Monica, most beaches in the San Diego area) have never had tar on them. Maybe trash and seaweed but never tar, that is actually the first time I heard of it. You also probably picked a cold day to go to the beach because around this time of year it’s good weather to go to the beach for most days. However, California weather is really bipolar. I live in Palm Springs and it’s super hot all day, but if I drive for 2 hours to LA it’s so fresh from the sea breeze. But the heat does not compare to Arizona where I used to live. Word of advice: if you’re gonna go to a city right by the coast it’s gonna be fresh and breezy during the day, but freezing at night.
    People in California are very chatty. You could be buying some groceries and you will end up telling the cashier about your plans in the weekend. People can be nice here but you’ll always encounter an asshole every now and then.
    You guys should visit California again sometime soon!

  27. CupcakeSauce
    CupcakeSauce

    Hello there watermelon beans!
    I just created my account and I love you guys. Hey, why don’t you plan a trip to Miami, Florida? Yeah! This is a place with a lot of cultural diversity…and delicious food!
    Anyways, keep posting new things and thanks for being South Korea’s Kimchi Advisors!

  28. LadyHoozer

    So, I have a question for you guys: Were you filming when the fro-yo guy was being super-helpful? Not that I have been in a Cali Fro-yo (I’m a cynical New Yorker; east, east baby!). I have, however worked at a number of eateries during my collage days and I know that my already excellent customer service would definitely have gotten even more fabulous if someone walked in with a camera. “Sorry I have to clean the bar” may translate to “Don’t film this yet!” Also, I think friendliness in America is definitely region-based, like West, vs. Midwest, vs. South, Vs. ‘North’/East, vs. New England. In New York, we like to be left alone and will generally ‘ignore’ people because we like to be left alone ourselves and it can sometimes feel annoying/rude if someone talks to you! Not all the time, but it seems like a big chunk of the time.

    Yah, and as far as portion sizes go, they are big pretty much everywhere in the US! Now you know why we have such an obesity problem . . .

    I also have a Tl;DR question for you related to that: Do Korean restaurants let you take home leftover food? Do they just have more-reasonalbe sized portions that they expect you to finish?

    Also, thanks to you, the majority of Korean words that I know are all food words . . . and I may or may not make Jajangmyeon and dokbokki on a regular basis . . . and I might have learned Hangul . . . and developed a love for Kimchi. So, anyway THANKS GUYSE!

  29. Well you should come to Mediterranean for the best cuisine in the world and for the great hospitality.

  30. Gabriwonderella

    I almost forgot you guys are Canadian omg. Chicken and Waffles is literally the most normal thing for me because I live in the South idk. Here in Texas people are polite yet ignorant and if you go in to small talk they’ll normally say at least one offensive thing. It’s hot as hell in the summer (but not like Arizona) and freaking freezing in the winter (compared to the heat in the summer) and our transitioning seasons are almost non-existent. I also never realized our portion sizes (?) Like they’re just normal to me I guess.

  31. sillyniecy

    UGH small talk! I need to move to Korea, stat! It was hilarious to watch you guy relive your experiences. I used to dye my hair pink or purple or blue, and people would stop me ALL the time to ask about it. I’m not shy or anything, I just usually don’t want to talk to people about nothing. I’ve always been like that, so I’m the odd one out.

    I live in Orange County, so just south of LA- I can get there in an hour or so. I think people in LA and even OC are VERY nice. People in California are much happier overall than people in other parts of the US (that I have lived in or been to). I am originally from Indiana and people are kinda rude and depressed. Californians live in California, what do they have to be mad about (joking!).

    And lastly, portion sizes are like that across the US, guys. It’s part of the reason this country has such a problem with obesity levels. I order half sizes of things whenever I can, and plan to have leftovers!

  32. crazyreader
    crazyreader

    Small talk in the Midwest is also very common:]

  33. So sad I missed you guise! Funnily enough, though, the reason I wasn’t in California was because I was visiting Korea, and I definitely noticed a lot of the same differences. For example, small talk: my mom, having lived in California for a while, was trying to have a conversation with the lady making our (donkatsu!!!) kimbap, but the lady would only give one-word answers and just kept asking us to sit down. On the other hand, in California (like you experienced) people will initiate conversations randomly all the time. The “California-is-so-warm-all-the-time” thing is definitely not true. When I arrived home I was blown away by how cold it was–-at least compared to Korea. “Food-creativity” is abundant here. There’s a Indian-Mexican fusion restaurant near where I live. I’ve also seen Korean-Mexican food trucks, among many other combinations. Lastly, yes, portion sizes here are way too freaking big. Wow. Glad you enjoyed your stay in California!

  34. marvelgoose

    Lots of oil under high pressure off the coast of California. Stuff just leaks out like crazy. Locals keep begging the oil companies to come in and pump the stuff out but the environmentalists block all attempts even though the result would be less oil in the water.

  35. Whatttt? It’s so hot here in California I feel like! But while it is true that California does have some desert-ish weather, it’s super mild since it’s so close to the ocean and all that water acts like a buffer; it doesn’t get super hot in the day and then super hot at night, nothing like Arizona, Nevada, or Colorado. Las Vegas is way more in-land so the effects of the ocean would be less than L.A. near the coast.

  36. West Coast Best Coast! (Had to say it). I also have to say as someone from West Coast, we tend to be much friendlier than East Coast USA. Small talk… I mean, it’s just friendly. Calling it “small talk” almost has the connotation that it’s shallow/superficial/not genuine… which is not the case. And man, California has NOTHING on Hawaii (where I lived growing up). Hawaii is a much more friendly place. I am always surprised going back to mainland (Oregon and Washington usually) when people DON’T chat with every single person they meet… so if California was a lot for you, I’m now picturing Korea as super cold/un-friendly (I don’t know if that’s fair, but that’s the context I have… where do you make friends if you don’t chat with smiling strangers in a froyo shop?). In Hawaii we kiss to say hello (even the first time you meet), the friend of my friend is my new friend, and we address each other in family terms – even a stranger would be “Aunty” or “Uncle” (growing up I had a hard time keeping track of who was biological family and who was just close friends we’d absorbed into the family functions). If somebody is helping you or waiting with you, such as a gas station attendant, or a fellow customer waiting in a line for example, of course you would ask them how their day is going and chat about sports or what you’ll be cooking this summer at cookouts. Something to keep in mind if you ever come visit Hawaii!

  37. 7inspirits
    7inspirits

    Weather in California is really nice. Lived in Cali my whole life and have experienced the nice warm-cool weather of the central coast and the extreme heat the San Fernando Valley can bring. As for beach weather..yes the beach is cold and windy LOL If you want a really nice beach day you would have to go on a day where its 90+ F (On these days you see a lot of shirtless-ness of guys jogging around) As for the tar..I have never experienced that, but then again I dont know if its normal for Playa Del Rey..I’ve never been to that beach (Not much of a beach goer).

    For the customer service, well be glad you had someone that was nice! But, yeah usually people are nice and are willing to help you if you ask for the help :D And yes the portion sizes are big here..I wouldn’t know because I’ve only traveled to Mexico and the portion sizes seem the same LOL But I have heard that in other countries the portion sizes are smaller (Guess us nasties thought you knew already xP)

    What’s surprising is the small talk..I see that as normal, but then again I am Mexican-American and both cultures are quite social. But I see what you mean by it..I have a Korean friend and he isn’t used to the “American ways” and his small talk is improving, before he would isolate himself from everyone. Guess he finally figured out that he cannot get away and hangs around the small talk now. Haha.

    I also think that LA traffic is not bad..but then again I don’t drive much on the freeway because I dont have too. The only bad traffic you can get all really depends on the time and which freeway you’re taking. If you’re from LA you know to stay away from the 5, 405, and 101 freeway during rush hours.

    Looks like you had a lot of fun in LA!! Hopefully next time you’re in LA again, I won’t be busy so I can see you guys!! I didn’t even know there was a meet-up >.<

  38. I’m pretty sure California cold isn’t actually all that cold lol. I live in Seattle, Washington and whenever I meet someone from Cali, they always complain about how cold it is here when it’s not even cold out for me. If you guys ever come to the red states, specifically Washington state or Oregon, be prepared for the weather! My cousin from Cali visited and what’s considered hot here was cold for her.

  39. leahbunnii
    leahbunnii

    So since Koreans don’t use small talk, how are you supposed to act towards an employee when you are at a restaurant or store? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I’m from Upstate New York and all we do is small talk.

  40. I lived basically everywhere in California! From LA to San Diego to San Fran and now I live in a small town ^^ California, from my experience, is the same overall. Nice people and huge amounts of creativity! However the weather is really different from where you live. The beaches are typically colder because of the sea breeze while if you are in the inner parts of CA it is hot as hell! The weather is overall amazing though. The portion sizes are huge! Typically my friends and family has never finished their plate by themselves because the food is meant to be taken home as leftovers. Well for the people around me that is XD but please come back! I would love it if you guys come visit us!

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