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TL;DR – Korean vs North American Beauty Standards

August 19, 2011

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This week’s TL;DR is an epic topic: What is the standard for beauty in Korea and how does it differ from North America, and vice versa? Wow, that’s a doosie of a question…it feels like we should submit this blog for grading once we’re finished with it (if we stay up all night and hand it in on time). Well to begin with, we should mention that these beauty points are what we feel the Korean media emphasizes as beauty, and what our Korean friends might mention in passing conversation, but this does not represent every Korean. It feels like we shouldn’t even have to mention that point, but we’re trying to cut off the “I’M KOREAN AND YOU’RE WRONG” comments from happening. ^^ We can’t cover every point here so we’re going to go with our Top 3.

Pale Complexions vs Tanning

Jersey Shore Tanning

Umm, that's just gross.

It seems to us that Korea has finely tuned the idea of beauty into several traits which are currently trendy, but we have no idea if they were always trendy or if this is a recent thing. The most apparent one is lack of tanning. Anywhere you go in Korea you’ll see people walking around with beautiful parasols, ajumma visors or hats, arm covers, and just about every type of cream comes with a 15+ SPF built into it. The heated debate about why Korean men and woman want to have pale skin falls into two categories. Once being the historical idea: in a nutshell, tanned skin means you are a poor peasant working outdoors and pale skin represents luxury, wealth, and lack of wrinkles. The other argument being that Korean people are trying to look more and more Caucasian, which obviously gets a lot of angry comments from Koreans. We don’t know which side is more correct, but Martina is already Caucasian and she has always hidden from the sun under parasols (even when in Canada) to prevent her skin from instantly burning, so I guess that makes her…a vampire. This seems to really differ from other parts of the world, especially where having a golden tan = going on vacation. The idea of going to a tanning bed is just a horrifying idea to all our Korean friends; even on the beach you can rent pre-set up beach umbrellas to avoid the sun at all costs.

Mono eyelids vs Double eyelids

Gain Mono Eyelid

Gain Doesn't have Double Eyelids, and she's freaking beautiful

Ah, the eyelid. Something that we, as North Americans, have never seemed to notice until we came to Korea. Who knew that tiny piece of skin was SO important to looking beautiful? Having “double eyelids”, or a fold/crease above your eye is a concept majority of North Americans have just taken for granted. In fact, we don’t even have a concrete name for it, but in Korea, it’s 쌍꺼풀 (ssanggeopul). If you’re a celebrity, you probably had surgery done to get it, but there are still some people (like Gain and Rain) that haven’t had it done. If you can’t afford surgery, then you might just go for some Double Eyelid Tape instead. Of course, arguments rage about why this surgery is so popular in Korea, and while many people say it’s to achieve a more Western looking eye, others argue that it’s just for the sake of beauty. We think the real question to be asked here is why having big eyes or a double eyelid is considered to be beautiful? It’s not like Rain is suddenly not good looking because of his monolid, he just looks distinctly Asian and we don’t think that there is anything wrong with that.

The V-Line Face

V Line Face Drink

Putting two bottles by your face, or in your stomach, will not change your face.

The concept of the “v-line” jaw being a coveted beauty trait makes us…uncomfortable. From a North American perspective, you’re either born with a certain jaw shape or you’re not. You’re face is round, oval, heart, triangle, square, rectangular and so on. Really good hairdressers can tell what style will suit you based just on your face shape and you can look at many celebrities (who all have different types of face shapes) for inspiration. In Korea, not so much. We have never seen anybody praised for having a cute, round face or a striking heart shaped face. It’s literally the “v-line” jaw bone or it’s not reported. The reason why this makes us so uncomfortable is because there is plastic surgery readily available if you want to shave down your jaw bone. We see ads on the subway as if it’s totally an everyday event to change your entire jaw structure. The other reason reports on the epic v-line makes us uncomfortable is because majority of those photos taken by celebs are angled in a oh-so-clever fashion to create the illusion of a “v-line”, but in this illusion, tons of products are sold to help “trim” your jaw and face fat. Sorry Korea, we just don’t believe that a plastic face roller can change my face size. With that idea, the vast amount of time I spend sleeping on one side of my face should have horribly distorted my face by now.

In conclusion Professor Internet, it seems to us that growing up in a multi-cultural society (anywhere in the world) has a huge effect on what one thinks is beautiful. We feel like this is the most important thing to remember when comparing beautify standards of Korea to North America. As a Canadian from Toronto, it’s nearly impossible to pinpoint what an “ideal” Canadian looking woman would look like, since we grew up with so many different face shapes, skin tones, hair types, hair colours, body sizes, and eye colours.

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  1. I get shit for being dark. Stop sugar coating South Korea’s obvious intolerance for darker people. These two idiots are obviously being biased because Asians tend to worship European looking people. How about you two cracker ass crackers put yourselves in my shoes for day and have people recommend skin whitening shit. Oh and my favorite is when old farts and kids rub your skin and touch your hair without permission, treating you like a zoo animal. On a serious note, the most fked up is when people are hesitant and scared of you. :-) Call me butthurt and over reactive, but this shit really happens and it’s time people start acknowledging it. ~TimeToOpenYourEyesAndSpeakOutAgainstAbuse~EvenIfItsNotDirectedAtYou

    2 years ago
  2. j

    Don’t put sugar coat on it. Some people with distinct eyes are pretty (like kim yuna) and yet some people with distinct eyes are ugly. Just like some whites are born ugly and some are not. Ugly people comes from everywhere with any shape. You are just not admitting it and putting a sugar coat on it. And you are saying people who had eye surgery wanted to be white? It’s funny because my father was naturally born with ceased eyes and he is asian. I guess he is secretely half white then. Judgemental people makes me really sick.

    2 years ago
    • Did you not read what was written?
      It said some say that people change their eyes to look western but others do it for the sake of beauty. They NEVER said if you get eye surgery it is because you want to look white.
      People who don’t read all what was said make me sick.
      And you think distinct eyelids matter because of YOUR culture. In other countries or cultures, they might not care at all what your eyelids look like. There is no “sugar coating” it, this is stating that this is cultural bias. Beauty is arbitrary. What matters to you may not matter to someone else. Where I come from, teeth need to be straight and white but being fat doesn’t matter. In another city nearby, being tall and thin matters more. It depends on the area.
      With that being said, you are the judgemental one. I don’t care what someone looks like as long as they are healthy. No one gets to choose their eyelids, skin, or bone structure and no one should be ridiculed for it. Yes, uglies, average lookers, and pretty people exist, no matter the race. But this topic is over cultural standards, specifically South Korea.

      2 years ago
  3. I think that korean girls have smaller breasts, here is a solution http://www.impressive-breast.com

    2 years ago
  4. Thanks for your input :)
    I was just scrolling through the newly submitted comments and was surprised that someone was reading such an old post.
    In regards to what you said, most of the fans here do not take what Simon and Martina say as the be-all-and-end-all. Many people ask them to talk about topics that can be very touchy, thus we appreciate that they are giving their own personal opinion from their own personal experiences, which may not be reflective of the ENTIRE Korean society, especially since they’re speaking as foreigners and not locals. They try to include disclaimers in these cases, but it is difficult to do that for every point that they discuss – it would end up being a very, very long video. I’m sorry if you were offended.

    5 years ago
  5. Oh, there is definitely a western beauty ideal.  It’s just that what we choose to focus on allows for enough variation to give the impression of variety (if that makes sense).  I’m staring at Marie Claire right now, and it’s telling me that my: 

    Nose should be long and narrow

    Lips should be pouty. 

    Hair should be shiny and bouncy (color doesn’t matter, as long as it’s shiny)

    Body should be thin, but not too thin.  I should also be tall, but not too tall.   Breasts, bottoms and hips can vary (my humps).

    Face shape is not really important, though models tend to have oval shapes.  

    It’s a standard that favors Europeans, but by allowing wiggle room with face shape, humps, and hair color, it can accommodate any ethnic background.  Check out Chris Rock’s documentary “Good Hair”, where he discusses the BILLIONS of dollars African-American women spend every year in pursuit of “ideal” hair.   

    5 years ago
  6. My asian friends always tell me how jealous they are that I have double eyelids. I think this whole obsession with a specific beauty is just silly. Don’t you wish they are able to see different types of beauty and that it can be exotic, not ugly? No wonder there are so many clones in Korea. (I can say this for myself since I am Korean, raised in a 100% western culture.)

    6 years ago
  7. Recently I like my skin to be light o-o but in the sun i get tan so fast, i almost never burn >.>

    You know a very long time ago it was considered beautiful if you were chubby around the stomach o-o you have alot of paintings from that time with women like that =)

    6 years ago
  8. TOP knows how to dance. What do you think he’s been doing for 5 years. Just standing there?

    6 years ago
  9. lol my Korean friend loves my fair (pale) skin. She says it’s really pretty and that she wants skin like mine. The only reason I’m fair is because I use sunscreen because if I’m out in the sun for too long I’ll burn. Or it’ll look like I got burnt but then really I just got tanner :P I’m Japanese btw~ and OMG when I saw Gain I was like “YEAAAAH!! GAIN!!! I LOVE HER!!! WOOOOO” lol

    6 years ago
  10. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  11. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  12. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  13. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  14. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  15. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  16. Hey Simon where did you get that t-shirt on this vid?

    6 years ago
  17. Korea is more of a trend country, headstrong and prideful. My friend straight from Korea is probably one of the most narrow minded people I’ve ever met… She’s fairly ignorant and does that whole cutesy act that disgusts me so much I’ve wanted to smack it out of her. It’s probably because Korea isn’t so diverse so we who lives in more diverse areas should be more open minded to the fact that people in Korea just don’t have the chances like we do.
    I’ve been living in the U.S. and I’m fairly open minded to new things, and I would one day love to move back to Korea, but my friend who returned from Korea after living in the U.S. told me I’ll probably hate it there the first year. She never gave me a reason but I think she may be right.

    6 years ago
    • You know what, some westerners are narrow minded too. They underestimate non-Western cultures bc they think their culture is the standard. For example, some Americans get mad when people of the country they are traveling in cannot speak Enlgish. But I admit that Koreans are relatively not used to accepting something new and different. I’m korean BTW.

      4 years ago
  18. Wowwwwwwww. It’s totally what I wanna say. :)
    yessssssssssss, every korean seems like have simillar taste or view toward beauty, esp appearence of women. I think u guys mayb saw some of ur students have plastic surgery…. I think it’s tragic .. :(

    6 years ago
  19. Rather than benefits, I think it’s more of self satisfaction

    6 years ago
  20. I lol’d so hard when ubersexual was brought up! hahahahahahahaha, made my day XD

    6 years ago
  21. I lol’d so hard when ubersexual was brought up! hahahahahahahaha, made my day XD

    6 years ago
  22. Pale, “caucasian” skin tone is an ideal that is common in most Asian countries, not just Korea. I think the reason is because for a lot of Asian cultures, it’s been long believed that paler skin signifies that you’re upper class (ie. you’re not subjected to having to work outside and therefore get dark). And it’s not just about staying out of the sun, but there are many products available in Asia that are supposed to whiten or bleach your skin, which isn’t necessarily a good thing either. In fact, don’t a lot of BB Creams claim that they whiten the skin? If you watch Asian television, you will notice that most celebrities are paler-skinned. I’ve even noticed this watching Mexican telenovas. As for the double eye lid thing, I never really understood the desire for that as I have double eyelids myself, but my husband has expressed wanting to get the surgery done on himself! o_0

    6 years ago
  23. I don’t understand why my comment that a barbie-style look is technically an American “standard” of beauty was deleted.  So many people are writing negative crap on here and I was just pointing out that yes, blonde hair and blue eyes are something that at least a good amount of people see as something desirable. 

    6 years ago
  24. have u tried baviphat slim v line maker? it sounds like a hoax to me… =/ I’d prefer the face roller

    6 years ago
  25. have u tried baviphat slim v line maker? it sounds like a hoax to me… =/ I’d prefer the face roller

    6 years ago
  26. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  27. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  28. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  29. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  30. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  31. Since you talked about this in your post, what is your opinion on Suju’s Shindong getting double-eyelid surgery? I’m just curious to know your point of view concerning celebrities :)

    6 years ago
  32. I have a question. What’s the hardest thing you’ve had to accept living in Korea that you don’t really like?

    6 years ago
  33. Awesome vid lol

    6 years ago
  34. Hi, Thanks for the reply.

    Some of my expressions were quite exaggerated, but the point is you could
    pick whose nose is the most beautiful if I give you several images of
    nose shape. Your friends would not agree on the ‘one’ nose shape, but I
    am sure that significant majority might agree with one nose shape and
    they say it is ‘better than’ the others and the one might be very close
    to the westerner’s traditional nose shape. I cannot say the only ‘one’,
    but I am sure there is one ‘nose’ shape that everybody admires and loves
    (people who grew up with western culture). You bring the example of
    Julia Roberts, but she is not a good example because we like her not
    just because of her physical beauty, but her image that represents beauty.
    As I can remind her easily, many others know her because she is famous
    world star! I would say her image is closer to ‘attractive’ than
    ‘beautiful’ because she have strong character.

    My major arguing point is the value of ‘equality’ is too ‘strong’ in
    the N America especially in US. It is obviously good phenomenon, but
    this social tendency has led people in US (I have never been Canada, so
    actually I cannot say Canada has same tendency, but I think two
    countries are very similar.) to conceal their inner mind; They are tend to
    pretend (Im sorry. I use strong word) that they follow the value of
    equality in every issues and many of them believe they behave with value of equality, but I do not
    think so. People say a dignity as a job of president and plumber is equally respectable, but we frankly cannot agree that value judgement;
    people say with their lips about equality, but they don’t think so in their inner mind.
    It is quite off example, but I want to say that Western culture has
    produced, consumed, spread and sometimes forced ‘the value'(including
    beauty) for a long time; we cannot make a clean slate even if we wish to
    in reality.

    What I do not like is the weird idea of ‘SOME’ N Americans who insist
    ‘we have value on equality, but you Asians don’t. what a mass’. The
    funny thing is the fact that they don’t think and act with the value of equality in reality.

    p.s As a same logic that you bring, the reason why I watch EATYOURKIMCHI
    is the foreigners’ points of view toward Koreans are the view that I
    cannot see about Korean because I am Korean. And I can see something
    that you cannot see because I am not N American.

    One more p.s. Did you know that ? usually when N Americans say ‘no
    offence’, it means ‘I already made offence or I will make a offence, so
    be prepared’.– thats what I feel. No offence.

    Thanks
     

    6 years ago
    • You’re going way the hell out there and explaining political and social views of a mixed continent. There’s no way in hell of pin-point one set standard in North America because you just can’t when there’s white, black, yellow, brown and in between around every corner.

      6 years ago
  35. Seeing these different cultural beauty standards reminds me of how in first world countries being skinny is beautiful, but in other countries like Uganda being fat is considered beautiful.

    6 years ago
  36. There is no one in this world that is ugly, Vani, i think you are beautiful. :)

    6 years ago
  37. I’m a Flipina with tanned skin. Not so dark but not so light either. I used to hate my skin tone (teased about it by friends in the Philippines when I was younger), but I was once in this play (Moved to Dubai) and a Belgian girl was doing my make up. She said that she’d kill to have my skin tone, because when she goes sunbathing, she burns. And when she puts tanning lotion, she turns orange. After that, I started to love my skin. ^_^

    6 years ago
  38. Actually most Asians do prefer fair skin cause we think its beautiful . But we try not to get tanned because we don’t think its healthy cause the sun damages the skin and it causes you to age… etc .

    6 years ago
  39. MSA

    I’ve got to say, where I live tanning is pretty popular and most people my mother’s age will chide at me for being so pale. I do agree that something needs to be done with my skin (XD) it’s not white but sickly pale. Even so, I cannot stand to tan. Last time I went to the beach and got this nice, olive tan – I accepted it at the beginning, but then my face started getting darker and darker and it looked as if I were dirty, not tanned. So I can understand them – some skins just haven’t been made for tanning XD

    6 years ago
  40. People trying to avoid getting a tan is because they do not want to look like a peasant . Unfortunately, Koreans have pale skin and it turns dark very easily if one is exposed to the sun for even a short while. The aristocratic class that existed up to the early 20th century did not have to work in the farm fields and had pale skin unlike the peasants. It is analogous to Americans having not a good image on Caucasian Americans living in the south and have a deep tan. (a.k.a rednecks) 

    6 years ago
    • I’m slightly offended by the redneck remark. Even though i’m surrounded by them, since i’m from louisiana. LOL

      6 years ago
    • I’m slightly offended by the redneck remark. Even though i’m surrounded by them, since i’m from louisiana. LOL

      6 years ago
    • I think Joonho has it right on why Koreans frown on darker skin or getting a tan.

      6 years ago
  41. People trying to avoid getting a tan is because they do not want to look like a peasant . Unfortunately, Koreans have pale skin and it turns dark very easily if one is exposed to the sun for even a short while. The aristocratic class that existed up to the early 20th century did not have to work in the farm fields and had pale skin unlike the peasants. It is analogous to Americans having not a good image on Caucasian Americans living in the south and have a deep tan. (a.k.a rednecks) 

    6 years ago
  42. My wife and I live in South Korea first in Jihaeng-dong Donduchoe-si and now in Seoul and we got quite a kick out of your video.  Koreans take the beautiful thing so seriously sometimes, I mean, in the train car they might look in the hand held mirror at least two dozen times before they reach their next stop.  Several things that you left out is the masculine issues that Koreans have, or lack of.  It is only when Koreans really start to hang around Americans especially soldiers that they notice a masculine inferiority.  They will start hitting the gym real hard because it is only then due they develop this complex.  Tell the truth looking at a men in this country it is hard to distinguish them from the females especially in media.   

    6 years ago
    • I’m not sure exactly what you meant (or if you are just trolling), but are you saying that American men make Korean men feel inferior regarding their masculinity? I’m sure that’s true for some men because there are insecure people all over the world, but I really don’t see Korean men worrying too much about the fact that their idea of what it means to be masculine is sometimes different from our American ideas. And I really like that about them. Although I generally like American standards of masculinity, since that’s what I grew up with, I do not like how rigid it is, and how if you don’t look and act a certain way, you’re “not a man.” That’s oppressive. 

      6 years ago
    • I’m not sure exactly what you meant (or if you are just trolling), but are you saying that American men make Korean men feel inferior regarding their masculinity? I’m sure that’s true for some men because there are insecure people all over the world, but I really don’t see Korean men worrying too much about the fact that their idea of what it means to be masculine is sometimes different from our American ideas. And I really like that about them. Although I generally like American standards of masculinity, since that’s what I grew up with, I do not like how rigid it is, and how if you don’t look and act a certain way, you’re “not a man.” That’s oppressive. 

      6 years ago
    • Hey my friend, Do you want to bring a Macho man or a tough cowboy in this issue? You are far out of the arguing point in this video. Anyway one thing that I really get confused is N America’s value on masculine and famine. You people sometimes proclaim gay people right and sometimes rigorous protect man’s role and woman’s role. The most conservative nation in the world could be N America in this issue, I think. Is this another ‘diversity’? or ‘sexism’? or ‘double standard’? or ‘ignorance’?
      Please be ‘enlightened’.

      6 years ago
      • I don’t think you can really say that the most conservative nation in the world on this issue is the US, considering that we do not, unlike some countries, putting people to death or in prison for being gay, and there more and more gay celebrities that are out and accepted, gay story lines in movies/tv shows, and gay marriage is more and more accepted here.  But you are right that we still have a long ways to go.

        6 years ago
  43. My wife and I live in South Korea first in Jihaeng-dong Donduchoe-si and now in Seoul and we got quite a kick out of your video.  Koreans take the beautiful thing so seriously sometimes, I mean, in the train car they might look in the hand held mirror at least two dozen times before they reach their next stop.  Several things that you left out is the masculine issues that Koreans have, or lack of.  It is only when Koreans really start to hang around Americans especially soldiers that they notice a masculine inferiority.  They will start hitting the gym real hard because it is only then due they develop this complex.  Tell the truth looking at a men in this country it is hard to distinguish them from the females especially in media.   

    6 years ago
  44. Tanning is also unthinkable in Indian culture. I always heard my mom tell me to put a hat on or not to go outside too much bc then I will get darker. It’s interesting. Walk into any Indian store and they have whintening products that help to make ur skin whiter. But I never see this product outside of Inidan stores. They only have tanning products. My friends think being pale is ugly. While in India, the paler u r, the more beautiful you are. Every culture has a set of standards when it comes to beauty.

    6 years ago
  45. Tanning is also unthinkable in Indian culture. I always heard my mom tell me to put a hat on or not to go outside too much bc then I will get darker. It’s interesting. Walk into any Indian store and they have whintening products that help to make ur skin whiter. But I never see this product outside of Inidan stores. They only have tanning products. My friends think being pale is ugly. While in India, the paler u r, the more beautiful you are. Every culture has a set of standards when it comes to beauty.

    6 years ago
  46. hey guys. im new to your videos but they are awesome. are small lips also something that koreans look at? i know other asian cultures do but i wasnt sure if koreans did. also, you might have already touched on this topic or question but i was wondering…me & my friend are both hispanic and we were wondering if you have seen any hispanic-korean couples? 

    6 years ago
  47. Since my internet takes forever to load the video, I just keep replaying Simon’s “BASEBALL BAT” song thing in the beginning. I crack up everytime x’D

    6 years ago
  48. Oh my god! Rain with double eye lid??? That’s just like TOP knowing how to dance: NO WAY!!! ;)

    6 years ago
  49. Guys, I love your videos but I kinda stopped watching them a while ago because of the background music. It’s not bad, don’t get me wrong… there’s just too much of it. It’s too loud and after about half a minute it gives me a headache. :( I wish there was some way to turn it down but still hear you guys talking. I know you can’t make everyone happy but I had to have my moan. :p

    6 years ago
  50. One of my close girlfriends just got a eye widening and double eyelid surgery. I couldn’t understand why she didn’t think she was beautiful because she really was (and still is) gorgeous. She was constantly calling herself ugly and fat (which she was like a size 4 ….is this fat? I think not). When I asked her why she thought she was ugly and she really didn’t have a answer other than she didn’t have what Simon and Martina mentioned in their video. She still is pretty but she just doesn’t have tiny eyes anymore, and now she thinks she is the most beautiful person ever. I kind of resented her at first because I have always tried to build her up and tell her that she is pretty, but then she went and got her eyes done. I was just upset, and she was ashamed to tell me so had to hear about it from other friends like a month after she had it done. After this all happened I realized that no matter what I had said it wasn’t going to change anything because she had grown up in a culture that had constantly told her she wasn’t beautiful enough until she got ____ fixed. I still love her and I want her to see herself the way God sees her, but I just wish she didn’t have to get surgery to feel that she is beautiful.

    I don’t know where I stand on the whole plastic surgery debate, but I definitely don’t like what it is doing to my generation. I have grown up in a Christian home where all I have ever heard and learned is that I am made to look like this for a reason and changing or hating my appearance is hating God’s creation. I will live my life thinking and believing Songs of Solomon 4:7, and I hope that other girls (and boys) out there will too.

    6 years ago
  51. re:” Though I’m not asking for hate comments, I must add… I love the fact that it is not illegal to discriminate, “…ummm, that’s pretty much like saying, “I’m fine with racism, ageism and sexism”. Just pointing out that if you say that outloud, where other people can hear, it’s fair game for you to receive a response.”I don’t want a 50 year old lady serving as my flight attendant like the ones I’ve seen on American Airlines”You might ask yourself why it’s you feel it’s neccessary that your *food server* be sexually attractive to you….because it’s food you’ve paid to be served and nothing else. Suggesting some self-reflection for you.

    6 years ago
    • I guess your right, why is it necessary for my *food server* to be sexually attractive?, though I never mentioned at all that they need to be sexually attractive.  Now the question is, “are flight attendants merely food servers, or are they more?  In my perspective, flight attendants not only serve food, and attend to basic needs of what customers need, but in times of danger, they are the ones who are suppose to take care of the customers.  Though of course, I’ve seen 50 ~ 60 year old Asian ladies ripped, and stronger then many men out there, I’ve never seen those type of ladies serving as attendants.  

      Though the flight attendant comment I made does seem rather ill mannered, may I change my example?  Let’s just say, I’m glad I don’t see obese men and women wearing tiny little uniforms doing the so called (un)sexy dance in front of grand opened stores to attract customers . ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

      6 years ago
  52. ROFLLLLLLLLLLLL….. the cartoons XDD
    Anyways, before i watched this video i realized that I do cover the sides of my face… and I’ve NEVER heard of anyone else doing it (till now). I’m not weird anymore, YAY!! Lol ^^

    6 years ago
  53. I’d also mention the long, high nose thingy (which I thinks looks weird on Asians ex. Park MinYoung, Jeong JunHyeok). Actually thanks to Koreans i got over my long-nose-complex;) Also many young(well, under 40?^^) Koreans hate their natural hair color.Even those who live in Central-Northern Europe(where black hair is really rare and considered beautiful) mostly dye their hair brown(some kids too). Actually I’ve been wondering why brown not blond, red, pink, blue, whatever. Other thing is Korean women shaving their eyebrows and putting some fake eyebrow stickers/drawing them instead. Many Koreans also dislike having imperfect forehead hair line and they keep pulling out these cute, tiny, short hairs. Also here in Europe most of people consider freckles an utterly cute thing that makes your face look young but Koreans really hate it and who can removes it with laser:/ Well I think anyone could list many more jaw-dropping things about Korean beauty standards. The only thing I actually support is light skin color ’cause tanning is unhealthy;) And I drink hectolitres of oksusu tea but my face didn’t go V at all, as square as always;)

    6 years ago
    • Blond was a common color that Koreans dyed back in the mid 90’s.  The problem was when a person dyed their hair blond, people would get the impression that the person is… um…. a delinquent? So as time went on, less and less people died their hair blond.

      6 years ago
  54. Firstly .. what are double eyelids .. I thought double eyelids were a feature of Vulcans (Spock)…
    Secondly .. Ga-In .. droool .. hoowwllll .. droooool … 
    Thirdly .. wow .. a single set of criteria for both men and women? First time I heard of anything like that
    I mean .. when we were in college, the ultimate form of “Manly Men” were Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnin . .

    6 years ago
  55. I’ve always wondered about that! good video!

    6 years ago
  56. what’s the song at 5:00?

    6 years ago
  57. agree! GA IN is GORGEOUS..mono-lids are beautiful in their own way, I think eyes should be considered pretty because of the gaze/stare than the shape or color, the top models with Asian backgrounds neeever have double eyelids and they’re models for a reason right?

    anyway, I heard Jessica Alba was pretty famous in South Korea, why is that if they don’t are very fond of uber tanned people? this confuses me a lot. [no,not really]

    6 years ago
  58. Thanks for the vid, it actually reminded me of the question I always wanted to ask. Since you two are both teachers, do you guys teach your Korean students about accepting other ethnicities or like help break the stereotypes Koreans believe about other ethnicities? Much, love, quinquin.

    6 years ago
    • You should post this question on the TL;DR questions page! I’d like to see Simon and Martina make a video on this. Well done! :D

      6 years ago
  59. I understand the reasoning behind all of this, but it just seems very sad to me. Korean people in general look beautiful the way they are.

    I do understand why North Americans tan. It is because a long time ago a lot of people subscribed to the notion that being pale = sick. So getting some sun and a little color means being healthy and fit. Yes, you do need sun…not for tanning but for vitamin D it helps fight off depression. That’s why so many folks suffer in the winter and need special artifical light to fight off the “Winter Blues”. But like with anything in society, some folks take it to the max and overdo it and end up looking like an ooompa loompa…even with the fake tan. I’m African-American, I do wear sun screen especially when I played soccer in the summer. I wore the highest SPF that I could find because I would blister with heat rash if I didn’t.

    I still feel uncomfortable seeing double eyelid tape and glue being sold and I’ve been here for a year. I understand the reasoning for it, but deep down I still wish they would know how beautiful they are with out it.

    I do feel saddend when I see beautiful Korean girls on the train with the most messed up skin due to over use of makeup. I always think if they were confident in being natural or not using makeup so much they would have healthy skin. Plus some girls use so much make up that when they do take it off they look completely different. We do that in the US too, but I think Korean girls have it down to an art form especially with the overuse of eye makeup.

    I also feel saddend when Korean women with athletic bodies feel ashamed about their build. Even the ones who play in action roles on TV. In most western countries a woman with an athletic build is seen as healthy, strong, and sexy.Those women should not feel bad because they have a little bit of muscle. Yes, I know there are strong male female roles here, but those women should be made to feel bad, but celebrated. They are beautiful and sexy too ! :) 

    EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL!! *^-^*

    6 years ago
    • well said, I think everyone is free of having their own beauty standards and they don’t necessarily need to fit in other cultures to be right or wrong (East vs West ideology) but always in a healthy way, both physical and mental.

      6 years ago
  60. With regards to the tanning issue, I think that both cultures are wrong. You should neither go out of your way to be tan nor out of your way to be white. Just live your life and whatever color your skin is is what it will be. (It would be nice to actually have an even tan though… I mean really, soccer tans are the worst. your knee is black and then your calves and thighs are blinding white. -__-) As for the small face, they really compare that? I’ve always though people with small heads looked oddly disproportionate… Huge eyes I agree with though. I like big eyes. But not so big that they look unnatural. I can also see the v-line being ideal, but not so much that you can’t have any other face shape to be considered beautiful. And I really have no idea why you would want to get rid of your beautiful monolid… I absolutely love them and almost wish I had one (but I’m white, blond, and blue/green-eyed so that would look really unnatural… >.<) Oh, Korea, wake up and realize that there is no point in conforming! (And that would be the hipster in me speaking. kekeke…)

    6 years ago
  61. Thank you for censoring the Jersey Shore reference haha.
    I thought all your points were really valid. I guess all cultures probably have the basic “ideal” like skinny chick, big chest, long hair…..six-packed man….. haha but I def. never noticed a lot of the beauty concepts that you brought up until I went to Korea.

    6 years ago
  62. I watched a preview for a documentary about this! Here’s the link: http://vimeo.com/26833191 (The first part is about studying and schooling..just skip a bit to get to the beauty part) It’s really interesting! It’s sad too though, the girls on there are so pretty but they just don’t see it themselves so they want surgery ): I guess it’s the same for girls and women in every country though to an extent. Let me know what you think!

    6 years ago
  63. I’m caucasian, but I still don’t understand the appeal of tanning. I’d rather stay out of the sun, and not get the wrinkles/sun damage/freckles/skin cancer. SPF is awesome! Haha :)

    But on another note, I do think this view of beauty is rather sad. I wish the majority of Korean girls (and guys too I guess) could realize they don’t have to look a certain way to be beautiful…

    6 years ago
  64. Yeah, I think this might be the right answer here.  It also might do with the fact that Korean people supposedly also don’t have a lot of parties in the home: birthday parties, dinner parties, movie nights, etc.  Social events are usually just done outside of the house.

    6 years ago
  65. wow….so many things lol….i’m asian(chinese…) and i’m already tanned…from all that sports and…sports……I’M OBAMA!!!!! lol
    that spudgy thing never gets old…..love spudgy <3 <3 <3

    6 years ago
  66. GaIn! she’s such a beauty! i find her even more sensual n dazzling than that putting 2 bottles by my face is oh so giving me such a v-line shape lady

    6 years ago
  67. I don’t do tanning either (I’m Asian), but it’s because I’m scared of having cancer and also because I easily have those black dots on my face, and that would ruin it. It also makes you look older! For the jaw thing, it is very weird…

    6 years ago
    • Yeah but I used to know a lot of friends that like tanning because 1) It tends to make you look skinnier and 2) It helps blend in any blemishes you have on your skin ;) I think that could be why a lot of Americans like tanning? I haven’t tanned in like 8 years or so though… I finally embraced my pale self :D

      6 years ago
  68. We’re all different, and should all celebrate those differences :)

    6 years ago
  69. I couldn’t think of any female celebrities with wide chins/square jaws so I was looking it up and found this:  “Women with large chins are more likely to cheat” @ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4421983/Women-with-large-chins-are-more-likely-to-cheat.html
     
    I guess that is a pretty good reason to have a preference for small chins. 

    6 years ago
  70. I couldn’t think of any female celebrities with wide chins/square jaws so I was looking it up and found this:  “Women with large chins are more likely to cheat” @ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4421983/Women-with-large-chins-are-more-likely-to-cheat.html
     
    I guess that is a pretty good reason to have a preference for small chins. 

    6 years ago
  71. I couldn’t think of any female celebrities with wide chins/square jaws so I was looking it up and found this:  “Women with large chins are more likely to cheat” @ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4421983/Women-with-large-chins-are-more-likely-to-cheat.html
     
    I guess that is a pretty good reason to have a preference for small chins. 

    6 years ago
  72. I’m Canadian but of Taiwanese-Filipino ancestry. The double eye lid is I think a common thing in Asia. I know a lot of people who undergo surgery to make their eye bigger. As for the pale skin, it’s not only in Korea but I think the rest of Asia. I lived in Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Taiwan and Japan and there is one thing in common. Their supermarkets are full of whitening stuff. Whitening face mask, whitening toner, whitening soap, whitening lotion. And yes, there’s the Gluthatione IV – they inject it and it claims to make you really really pale.  The explanation behind “wanting to be fair” is I guess, more on socio economic status; when you’re fair; this means you don’t do blue collar jobs. Being fair is always associated to being wealthy or belonging to the upper class of society.

    So, in Canada, when it’s summer….we Asians bring out the biggest umbrellas we have (to shade us from the sun) and the strongest whitening products one can afford.

    6 years ago
  73. 6 years ago
  74. I remember one time when my Korean friend told me “oohh! you’re eyelids are so cute, I want mine to look like yours.” At first I was a liiitle creeped, but then I remembered how popular double eyelids are in Asia.

    6 years ago
  75. that was helpful

    6 years ago
  76. Thanks guys! This TLDR was very helpful! I had no idea that “beautiful” was so specific in Korea (not that its a bad thing). I understand the whole double eyelid thing because i have a lot of asian friends but the whole V-line jaw is a bit odd to me. As for pale skin, FINALLY! A culture that i fit into! (I’m a red-haired, blue-eyed ginger girl with crazy pale skin that normally get me made fun of). Also, Simon you crack me up! “Because i naughty naughty!” *random Mr.Simple dance party!*

    6 years ago
  77. I think Koreans have an obsession for pale skin. It just seems they go overboard.

    6 years ago
  78. Yayy ^^ I have big eyes ( my friends make fun of me because of my eyes ¬¬) double eyelids and v-line …My skin is not that pale neither tan skin ( I don’t like the sun ><) anyways… everybody is beautiful in their own way not matter what .  ^0^

    6 years ago
  79. and also, you should also mention that a lot of Asians have natural double eyelids. A lot of people think that Asians just get plastic surgeries to have it done if they have double eyelids but some have it naturally. My mother and my sister have natural double eyelids, my father and I don’t. For asians, they also have hooded/ inner eyelid eyes which is similar to the double eyelids but the fold is underneath your eyes (like an opposite fold from the double eyelids). its called 속쌍꺼풀.

    6 years ago
    • Rai

      Agree~

      In my country, MOST people have double eyelids and i never meet anyone who care about who have DEL or not~

      I myself, never really take my DEL as something as significant as how Koreans thought so~

      Then again, it’s all about cultural difference~ :)

      6 years ago
  80. “we should mention that these beauty points are what we feel the Korean
    media emphasizes as beauty, and what our Korean friends might mention in
    passing conversation, but this does not represent every Korean.”
    I think you should mention that in your video also.. seems like a very important point since a lot of people on the video now are commenting that they wouldn’t look ideal to Koreans

    6 years ago
  81. I think that Ahjumma’s were the visors and coverings so they don’t get wrinkles.

    6 years ago
  82. Do they any products in Korea that can bleach skin since there seems to be heavy emphasis on pale skin? 

    6 years ago
  83. Do they any products in Korea that can bleach skin since there seems to be heavy emphasis on pale skin? 

    6 years ago
  84. My friend told me about you guys only a week ago and already I think I’ve seen all your videos. Keep up the good work. It’s funny and informative. All the best!

    6 years ago
  85. I have a
    friend from Singapore
    – she sends me many Korean cosmetic sometimes (and CD’s too uhuhu :) I’m always
    grateful to her for this, but most of these cosmetics was for facial
    brightening >.< I live in Poland
    (Europe) so I don't care for whitening xD I
    like to be tanned! I had to explain to her that & she was really surprised,
    she admit that she didn't think about this in 'my way' but 'her way' :)

    6 years ago
  86. I’m Cuban/American and i have natural golden tan skin (not every Cuban does, some actually have porcelain white skin) so when i go to the beach, park, or even my backyard for like 5 minutes i get even more tanned, luckily i don’t go out that much so i don’t have that horrible Jersey Shore tan (lol that’s just pushing it, they tan way too often). Anyways, putting on sunblock doesn’t work for my skin it only prevents me from getting burned not tan and i really don’t mind. I love my tanned skin but i think pale skin is also beautiful. I think the real difference is that because North America has a variety of cultures, our standards of what is beautiful is varied as well. What i might find as beautiful some of my friends and/or family might not think the same. Because of the many cultures and what not, we also tend to be a lot more open-minded. We have celebrities of all different types so its hard for us to choose just one ideal among all of them, in fact i have like 9851514 celebrity crushes, including SK Idols. Although Koreans are brilliant they are still culturally ignorant and tend to generalize other cultures, fortunately not all are like that because like you said those are people that are a little bit more understanding of foreign cultures.

    6 years ago
  87. I think that these really common ideals of beauty in Korea exist because it’s a mono-ethnic country. The same rules apply (I think) to most of Asia.
    Generally, traits that are rare among certain people will be considered the most “beautiful.” Since most Koreans tend to be shorter, have bigger heads (which is kind of true, not that it matters), be darker (not even dark, just darker than, say, white people), and have single eyelids, so being pale and tall with single eyelids is more unusual and therefore more “beautiful.” The same applies in North America, on a much smaller scale. People with brown eyes don’t get compliments about them: people with blue eyes do. The difference is that here, it’s more about personal preference rather than having one perfect look for nearly the entire nation, like you guys said.
    I don’t know why Asians seem to make a bigger deal of these preformed ideals than people from other countries usually do, but it might come somewhere from the generalization that “all Asians look alike.” So to look different, they’re changing so that they look alike again? I’m not sure about that one. :P

    Anyway, that’s my two cents! I hope that makes some sense. xD

    6 years ago
    • What especially confuses us is the high heels and platform shoes usage.  We understand that heels make your legs look nicer, but a lot of our Korean friends say that they want to look taller, which is why we’ll see lots of platform shoes, or insoles (like you saw Super Junior wearing in our Bonus Footage).  

      Why is everybody trying to look taller?  If you’re generally the same height, then who are you trying to be as tall as?  That other girl wearing platform shoes?  If both of you don’t wear them, then you’re the same height!

      We don’t get it… :(

      6 years ago
      • Asians are pretty short generally. I guess girls want to be taller cause they see boys drooling over Nicole Kidman (she’s even taller than Tom Cruise :P)

        6 years ago
  88. You guys are hilarious! I was a little afraid of the reactions/looks I would get if I taught overseas because I am like ten shades darker than dark.

    6 years ago
  89. Ah… that must be why Grandma is always bugging me.  She’s a full blooded Korean so I hear many things about how she thinks I should look.  Lovely grandma…  ^__^” I’m “nice girl size” so says my partner.  I definitely don’t fit a very Asian ideal because I have tan skin and get really dark (because my dad married a Samoan) and have very islander curly hair.  Figure…  Hee.  But my Korean family members?  Not what I look like.

    6 years ago
  90. I’m a moderately tan-skinned chinese american and all my Caucasian friends go, “You’re so lucky! You’re tan all year round! We’re so pasty, etc.”

     My relatives/parents always praised my sister’s and brother’s pale skin and pointier chins, and then kinda just went silent when they saw me (i am darker, have a cleft chin and very un-asian curly hair ).

    6 years ago
  91. This idea of paleness being more desirable makes me uncomfortable, regardless of cultural differences. It must be tough dealing with it as a darker-skinned person in S. Korea (or anywhere in Asia, for that matter). The Obama comment was very telling (and depressing). I wonder what kind of effect this avoidance of the sun has on skin cancer and vitamin D deficiency rates though?

    6 years ago
  92. This idea of paleness being more desirable makes me uncomfortable, regardless of cultural differences. It must be tough dealing with it as a darker-skinned person in S. Korea (or anywhere in Asia, for that matter). The Obama comment was very telling (and depressing). I wonder what kind of effect this avoidance of the sun has on skin cancer and vitamin D deficiency rates though?

    6 years ago
  93. This idea of paleness being more desirable makes me uncomfortable, regardless of cultural differences. It must be tough dealing with it as a darker-skinned person in S. Korea (or anywhere in Asia, for that matter). The Obama comment was very telling (and depressing). I wonder what kind of effect this avoidance of the sun has on skin cancer and vitamin D deficiency rates though?

    6 years ago
  94. This idea of paleness being more desirable makes me uncomfortable, regardless of cultural differences. It must be tough dealing with it as a darker-skinned person in S. Korea (or anywhere in Asia, for that matter). The Obama comment was very telling (and depressing). I wonder what kind of effect this avoidance of the sun has on skin cancer and vitamin D deficiency rates though?

    6 years ago

    • You probably need from 5 to 30 minutes of exposure to the skin on your face, arms, back or legs (without sunscreen) twice every week.”- from 
      http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyournutritionist/f/sunlight.htm

      You can also get vitamin D from fish, as well as fortified foods like milk, soy milk, or cereal. Unless you stay inside the whole time I am sure that within two weeks you will probably get enough sunlight to equal 5-30 minutes even if you do have sunscreen, or shade, especially if you eat it in food, or take a vitamin. 

      6 years ago
      • Yeah, I kinda forgot about other sources than sunlight XD Then again, I keep hearing how easily one’s vitamin D levels may be depleted.

        6 years ago
  95. I’m Asian and I have the v-line, double eyelid, just not the pale skin~
    Grr, stupid beach trip xD

    6 years ago
  96. i like this one!!!! also it’s not just a korea thing!! it’s an asian thing!!!!! in china, small face, pale skin, and etc. are considered beautiful!

    6 years ago
  97. I quite understand how Asian culture is like this because I’m Asian too. Unfortunately,I have pretty dark skin comparing to my friends and I got teased a lot because of it when I was a child. Now I’m grown up and I don’t really care about it but it would be better if there are less advertisments that keep telling people to be whiter. It’s like they’re brain-washed!   People should just love what they have and be what they are.

    6 years ago
  98. i think that the stereotype of koreans being superficial comes from their over-attentiveness (from an american perspective) to facial features/design, and their commitment to do whatever it takes (read: plastic surgery) to get the “ideal” look.

    what i like is how simon and martina can analyze it from a somewhat objective point of view and educate. i’ve seen too many videos bashing either europeans or koreans, and this was clear cut and educational.

    SO IN SHORT, ME GUSTA AND I AGREE. :D

    6 years ago
  99. I have a Korean friend who I stayed with, her and her family in Korea. But she told me that they normally don’t have friends sleep over at their home like that. I was wondering why they didn’t have sleep overs with their friends like Americans do. What do really good BFF’s do together in Korea to show how good of friends they are? And such.

    6 years ago
  100. I have a Korean friend who I stayed with, her and her family in Korea. But she told me that they normally don’t have friends sleep over at their home like that. I was wondering why they didn’t have sleep overs with their friends like Americans do. What do really good BFF’s do together in Korea to show how good of friends they are? And such.

    6 years ago
  101. I have a Korean friend who I stayed with, her and her family in Korea. But she told me that they normally don’t have friends sleep over at their home like that. I was wondering why they didn’t have sleep overs with their friends like Americans do. What do really good BFF’s do together in Korea to show how good of friends they are? And such.

    6 years ago
  102. I have a Korean friend who I stayed with, her and her family in Korea. But she told me that they normally don’t have friends sleep over at their home like that. I was wondering why they didn’t have sleep overs with their friends like Americans do. What do really good BFF’s do together in Korea to show how good of friends they are? And such.

    6 years ago
  103. I have a Korean friend who I stayed with, her and her family in Korea. But she told me that they normally don’t have friends sleep over at their home like that. I was wondering why they didn’t have sleep overs with their friends like Americans do. What do really good BFF’s do together in Korea to show how good of friends they are? And such.

    6 years ago
  104. Hello Simon and Martina! If you could please watch and support this video on your site:

    http://koreanhighschool.com/

    It’s a documentary being filmed by a young American girl in South Korea about the pressures on Koreans to be physically perfect. Koreans
    are very hardworking people who strive for excellence but there’s also a
    lot of pressure in their society to look beautiful and to be perfect in
    school. This is why there’s a high rate of suicide among students and a
    high rate of plastic surgeries done even amongst the youth.

    6 years ago
    • Wow this is what I wanted to do before!!!! Congrats to the girl who is creating the doc!!! :) 

      6 years ago
  105. Wow. I think Koreans look awesome the way they look naturally. They don’t have to look like Westerners Or Europeans. I’m Spaniard/ Mexican and I look more European but I don’t think that Europeans have more beauty than Koreans. They are both equally beautiful and I hope Korea stops with this ideal look. ^___^

    6 years ago
  106. I agree, and Gain is frickin gorgeous. I have korean friends with mono lids, and i think mono lids look really elegant and graceful, but they always disagree and say I’m lucky because i have double eye lids and “big eyes” because I’m only half asian. 

    6 years ago
  107. I agree, and Gain is frickin gorgeous. I have korean friends with mono lids, and i think mono lids look really elegant and graceful, but they always disagree and say I’m lucky because i have double eye lids and “big eyes” because I’m only half asian. 

    6 years ago
  108. LOL…..That´s OBAMA.
    WTF? Chin roller? You´re just kidding, right? (it reminds me like Jim Carrey in a movie called
    Me,Myself & Irene wants to have a big chin)

    Really strange, “white” people like tanning and making their skin “brown”, Korean don´t like tanning and would like to make their skin “white”….weird, weird, definitely weird.

    Actually, when I´m watching K-Dramas or K-POP videos I don´t pay attention to the size of faces or double eyelids at all…you just like the person or you don´t.

    6 years ago
  109. LOL…..That´s OBAMA.
    WTF? Chin roller? You´re just kidding, right? (it reminds me like Jim Carrey in a movie called
    Me,Myself & Irene wants to have a big chin)

    Really strange, “white” people like tanning and making their skin “brown”, Korean don´t like tanning and would like to make their skin “white”….weird, weird, definitely weird.

    Actually, when I´m watching K-Dramas or K-POP videos I don´t pay attention to the size of faces or double eyelids at all…you just like the person or you don´t.

    6 years ago
  110. LOL…..That´s OBAMA.
    WTF? Chin roller? You´re just kidding, right? (it reminds me like Jim Carrey in a movie called
    Me,Myself & Irene wants to have a big chin)

    Really strange, “white” people like tanning and making their skin “brown”, Korean don´t like tanning and would like to make their skin “white”….weird, weird, definitely weird.

    Actually, when I´m watching K-Dramas or K-POP videos I don´t pay attention to the size of faces or double eyelids at all…you just like the person or you don´t.

    6 years ago
  111. I’m pretty much a fob in Australia and the only thing from the list that I care is the double eyelids and that’s because it’s so hard to put make-up with mono eyelids.

    6 years ago
  112. 1. Any guy that has one type is an idiot. The four girls in miss A are all distinctly different, yet each stunning in their own unique way.

    All of us goths grow up to be vampires you know.

    6 years ago
  113. ah la la…no matter how hard I try, I’m simply NOT able to tell if someone has a mono or double eyelid LOL! nooo comment

    6 years ago
  114. “With that idea, the vast amount of time I spend sleeping on one side
    of my face should have horribly distorted my face by now.”
    -on that note, i even heard that Korean parents make their babies sleep on one side of their face(well of course alternate sides) to probably achieve that “v-line jaw”?(while their bones are still growing)

    6 years ago
    • don’t know where you heard that from, but Koreans adore children and would not do anything do compromise even a slight bit of their health. I’ve never seen Korean adults obsess over their baby’s looks and do something do change it.

      6 years ago
  115. I’m Chinese, and my mom always told me to sleep on one side of my face or the other (ie not facing the ceiling), I’m guessing so that I could get more of a v-line shaped face. Was this just my mom or do other asian moms tell their children this too?? XD

    6 years ago
    • Same here! My parents are from Taiwan. My mom says when i was a baby, she made sure i slept on one side or the other. and now she says the shape of my head is beautiful bc it’s not flat on the back like hers or my dad’s xD loll. i guess it’s an asian thing ahaha

      6 years ago
    • it’s the same, we’re supposed to sleep facing down  and your face on one side. I think it’s not about achieving a v line shape but my mom would say so the back of your head won’t be flat. (???) i don’t know if it’s true.

      6 years ago
    • my mom never told me to do that, I think she actually told me that it’s healthier to sleep normally (face the ceiling)

      6 years ago
    • I think other asian moms tell their children that too. Because a Korean mother told me that they DO do that ;)

      6 years ago
      • Haha yea, I’m glad I’m not the only one! I saw your post right after I submitted mine lol xD

        6 years ago
  116. I didn’t even notice the “V-shape” face in the image because I was too excited to see that it’s an ad for a tea I drank a lot during my visit. xD

    I totally started dancing when you guys did during “Baby Got Back.” However… *puts on a shutter-shade monocle* The line after “sprung” is “wanna pull out tough ’cause you noticed that butt was stuffed.”

    What do you guys think is a desired hairstyle/hair type for Koreans? I mean, yes, we see a lot of straight, jet black or dark brown hair, but a lot of women complimented and touched my spiraly curls saying how they loved/wanted the style.

    6 years ago
  117. Yay for paleness!!! Tan just equals tacky. I try so hard to be pale in Florida, could use some of those Korean skin products. SPF 15 just doesn’t cut it here. 

    6 years ago
  118. I guess then its really difficult to be found pretty or beautiful in SK if youre dark colored by nature.

    6 years ago
  119. I think it’s all over Asia, not just in Korea. My Filipino friend just had her eyelids done. I’m of Chinese – Filipino ancestry and I have small eyes and my mom would always tell me to have that double eyelid surgery done because of some health benefits (???). I’ve never done it. I’m happy with my eyes.

    6 years ago
  120. I don’t know if you guys have seen this, but it some-what relates to the topic. http://www.mediadump.com/hosted-id167-average-faces-from-around-the-world.html
    There’s no Canada though :c

    6 years ago
    • We’re (French and English descendents) bunched under “White American” I suppose *shrugs*

      6 years ago
    • We’re (French and English descendents) bunched under “White American” I suppose *shrugs*

      6 years ago
    • We’re (French and English descendents) bunched under “White American” I suppose *shrugs*

      6 years ago
    • We’re (French and English descendents) bunched under “White American” I suppose *shrugs*

      6 years ago
  121. Now, I understand why my relatives had that reaction. I live in Canada (but I’m Southeast Asian); I go out under the sun all the time not really concerning myself with that fact that I will get a tan. When I went back to Asia for a visit, the first thing my relatives said was “oh! you’re so dark” and then they gave me a year supply of gluthatione (it’s a capsule asians take to make their skin lighter – actually, that’s the side effect of the meds). So, while I was there, I was going out in the sun WITHOUT an umbrella and they would give me funny looks, it’s like I’ve committed a crime. I still took the glutha though to give them peace of mind so I became really really pale like zombie pale so when I got back to Nova Scotia, the first thing I did was go to the beach. :P.

    6 years ago
    • I thought gluthatione was ineffective when taken orally? What dosage were those pills? O_O

      6 years ago
    • I thought gluthatione was ineffective when taken orally? What dosage were those pills? O_O

      6 years ago
      • 1500 mg. but i am pale to begin with. I hardly tan or it takes a while for me to tan. But mom thinks I’m not as pale as one should be. Go figure. I will join Martina’s vampire club as well.

        6 years ago
        • LOL. eh, that’s family I guess. they can be pretty ridiculous =/

          6 years ago
  122. gosh! its very difficult to be considered beautiful in Korea..  
    no wonder plastic surgery is a booming industry in that country =(

    6 years ago
  123. I can totally get the tanning thing, ’cause I really don’t understand pressing in the sun for hours just to be brown and with the consequence of getting more wrinkles…

    Me and Martina can start a vampire club, I always stay away from the sun to avoid burning!! ^______~

    6 years ago
    • I´m in :)
      I don´t like sunbathing at all…even though I was born in a summer, but maybe because my name literally means “the spring celebrator” and as spring has temperate weather so I don´t like too hot and too cold weather also (but I love whet it is snowing).

      6 years ago
    • YAY!!! My friends used to make fun of me, but with my new vampire club, who’s laughing now!? BUUwaah..BUWahhhaa, BUWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

      6 years ago
      • Oh need to join that club too, I don’t like the sun cause it burns my skin, plus the heat is just not for me…

        6 years ago
  124. I can totally get the tanning thing, ’cause I really don’t understand pressing in the sun for hours just to be brown and with the consequence of getting more wrinkles…

    Me and Martina can start a vampire club, I always stay away from the sun to avoid burning!! ^______~

    6 years ago
  125. I have double eyelids and I didn’t even know what double eyelids were until i got into kpop.

    6 years ago
    • I have had to check it now what the double eyelids are and I have got it as majority of Europeans…it is common feature of Caucasian people, right?

      6 years ago
  126. I have double eyelids and I didn’t even know what double eyelids were until i got into kpop.

    6 years ago
  127. what about Hyori she’s pretty tan and she was considered Korea’s beauty queen? so yeah i’m a little confused

    6 years ago
  128. what about Hyori she’s pretty tan and she was considered Korea’s beauty queen? so yeah i’m a little confused

    6 years ago
    • Lee Hyori was not really tan when she debuted as a member of Fin K.L. And FYI she became the sexy queen of Korea not because of her skin color but because of her music and Korean people loves her personality and her attitude. 

      6 years ago
      • what i meant was like lets say girls put her as her role model and wanted to be like her so that kinda comes across like since i want to be like her im going to forget about being pale skinned and get a somewhat tan look like Hyori you know what i mean?

        6 years ago
  129.  That is why they made the disclaimer that all their opinions may not be 100%. There will be exceptions to the rules!

    6 years ago
  130. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  131. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  132. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  133. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  134. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  135. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  136. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  137. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  138. It still surprises me about the “eyelid surgery”.I think that distinct eyelid is pretty and EXOTIC!

    6 years ago
  139. And I think I’ve just found the answer to why my (Korean) boyfriend wears long sleeves and long pants in the summer and likes his skin so pale, hah. The whole concept of having one ideal look is kinda weird to me, but I suppose, in a less multicultural place like Korea it makes sense.

    6 years ago
  140. well, every culture has their own beauty
    in arab countries they like light skinned girls that are fuller, not too skinny. 
    also in india and pakistan they like lighter skinned girls. 
    it seems to be a common trait across Asia   

    haha, Obama. that kid would probably get his ass kicked for sho.

    6 years ago
  141. well, every culture has their own beauty
    in arab countries they like light skinned girls that are fuller, not too skinny. 
    also in india and pakistan they like lighter skinned girls. 
    it seems to be a common trait across Asia   

    haha, Obama. that kid would probably get his ass kicked for sho.

    6 years ago
  142. I’m uber pale, have double eyelids and I guess my jaw is v-shaped…
    I’ve never really considered these accomplishments until now :D

    6 years ago
  143. I’m uber pale, have double eyelids and I guess my jaw is v-shaped…
    I’ve never really considered these accomplishments until now :D

    6 years ago
    • I think that at first a person should like her/him-self the way she/he is and then it´s not important what others say to you.

      6 years ago
    • I think that at first a person should like her/him-self the way she/he is and then it´s not important what others say to you.

      6 years ago
  144. Ubersexual 8DD
    I just can’t get that word out of my mind XD It left an everlasting impression XD

    6 years ago
  145. Ubersexual 8DD
    I just can’t get that word out of my mind XD It left an everlasting impression XD

    6 years ago
  146. Wow.. That’s scary! The PS ads only can influence people mind! Never knew pale skin, double eyelids and v jawline such important to them. 

    6 years ago
  147. awesome

    6 years ago
  148. I knew it that Martina was a vampire!!! kkkkkkkkk

    6 years ago