2NE1 – Ugly: Kpop Music Mondays

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No pussyfooting around this one. We’re just going to say flat out that this song didn’t do it for us. If you don’t know by now, we’re big 2NE1 fans, and we set the bar really high for them. So for us, this song was just kind of…meh, especially in comparison to their other really high energy, in your face kind of songs. It does remind us of 2NE1′s “Go Away” which we also didn’t like. It seems both those songs follow the same pattern of “simple verses” + “rock-esque chorus” = an important message song, while their other songs follow more of a “unique verses” + “rock-out chorus” = a danceable fist pumping song. But then again, these kind of simple songs by any kpop band just aren’t our style. We love our “Bambaratatata!!!” and “oh,O, oh O, oh O, SHOCKASHOCKASHOCKASHOCKA” and “NANANANANANANANAnanaNANANANAna na na na na” and “cry CRY!!!!” Anyways, we digress.

We just don’t find ourselves humming the song throughout the day, or pumping our fists to a certain verse. The song just kind of came out and then went away for us. Sure, the chorus is great to sing along to, but the rest of the song feels kind of…flat. Also, the message just rubs us the wrong way. We know that it’s supposed to be symbolic (English Majors here) but it seems too self-berating, and it feels like it will be sung by people when they feel bad about themselves.

However, if the lyrics had a turning point, the song would be awesome! Right now we feel like, “yes, you think you’re ugly when you hold yourself up to the standards of beauty…….AND? And what?! Say something else about it!” You don’t necessarily need a nerdy kumbaya to make yourself feel better, but you can at least say something like “well, f**k you guys, I don’t need your approval” or something. Or make a suggestion of a power being found in “ugliness”. Something! *Simon and Martina pinch their nose bridges.*

But the video does a good job of filling the void left by the song by showing 2NE1 wrecking up beauty stores, terrorizing people waiting outside of a club for superficial people, and then rocking out in a dump. So, yeah, the video shows them being comfortable with their uniquely stylish ugliness, which is what we hoped the lyrics would have shown a bit, no? Maybe there’s something subtle in the Korean lyrics that didn’t make it over in English translations?

Alright moving on. We’re really happy with the English in the song though. Like, really happy. Blown away happy. We never understood why Kpop uses English in its songs to begin with. It often seems incongruous to us. We don’t know about you, but when we speak with people we don’t break out into another language randomly and flip flop back and forth. And if we were to for some reason want to speak in another language, we’d at least do so with words or sentences that we’re comfortable with. Take, for example, this video of Mir speaking English.

Now, we’re not here to make fun of his English. Our point is that, well, he’s clearly uncomfortable speaking English. He doesn’t seem to have a knack for it. So, umm, why force him to speak English in his songs, then? Why not have him break out into Polish as well, while you’re at it? Why is English used in Kpop songs to begin with, if the main demographic, really, is Korean people in Korea who speak Korean? We don’t get it, but we’re trying to work towards an understanding here. Our guess is that Kpop was using English originally to be trendy, but now it seems like it’s trying to be more international by using English, but in doing so often alienates those uninitiated in Kpop through its terrible execution in English.

Engrish in Kpop

Can someone please make a shirt out of this already?

This is all leading up to our point on 2NE1′s English: this song, we think, finally uses English as it should be used in Kpop. It’s not a random awkward scattering of English phrases. The English in this song is its own standalone entity, and stands up quite well. It’s in an important part of the song, the chorus, which people will sing along to. It bridges both languages, Korean and English, comfortably. Does it sell out its Korean-ness by having a fully English chorus? Not at all. This is still a Korean song. More than that, it finally feels like an international song as well, that an international audience can get behind. Yeah man. Good stuff.

HEY! YOU! Don’t give us that “oh you’re so YG biased” argument, that we know some of you are dying to spit out. We can see it on the tips of your tongues. (Our computer has webcam. We can see you.) We said that we don’t like this song, flat out. But we can pick the parts of it that we do like. Not so great song, but super great use of English that really sets a new standard.

Anyways, we might have sounded kind of hard on 2NE1 but it’s only cause we love them. We still love that 2NE1 – and Amber from f(x) – are pretty much the only kpop idols out there that make an effort to present Korean girls with an alter image of femininity that doesn’t follow the typical Korean cutey/sexy girl pattern. Even though this song isn’t the best, the rest of the album is still worth checking out. 2NE1 Represent!

2NE1 Mini Album Vol. 2

Oh! And as for the winner of last week’s Super Junior – Mr. Simple album contest, we announce those in our bloopers, which I’m surprised we haven’t been posting here as well. Here’s this week’s blooper reel!

Aaaaand one last thing: if you’re interested in the Spudgy song we made (why wouldn’t you be? IT’S OSM!) you can download it here:

I’m the Spudgy by simonandmartina

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1815914187 JoJo Nguyen

    Hmm actually when i watch 2ne1TV season 3, they did talk abt this song. They said this is not only about ” being ugly or not” but the feeling of being alone in your world, nobody understand how you feel though they tried to with their lies  and how you have to act “happy” when you’re not …etc but anyway I have to agree with you guys, this is just ” lack of self-confidence “. Instead of singing ” I think i’m ugly and nobody want to love me…” they should sing ” I think i’m ugly but the inside me is so pretty… ”
    p/s: I’m a huge blackjack and i love the Spudgy song <333 full version please and i will make it as my phone ringtone =p~

  • Anonymous

    CN blue make cuter troublemakers :)  I think i’ll vote for them.

  • http://twitter.com/bubblextee Bubble Tee

    XD it seems like the ‘simon rolling the window’ move is becoming part of most of you new videos LOL. awesome spudgy song! wish it was longer though. :(
    and i agree with Wjdzm on the how do you lipsync to a slow-mo mv? o.O cause i dont think they were trying to lip sync in the mv.

  • Anonymous

    I think the lyrical message is supposed to be in conflict with the instrumental.  if you ignore the meaning of the lyrics, the song sounds like a confident anthem.  but the lyrics totally go against that, and I think that’s done on purpose. they can do the depressed sound–they showed us that most recently with Lonely, and before that with It Hurts. If they wanted us to take away a depressed sound, they wouldn’t have gone with the rock anthem feel for this song–which makes me wonder, why?  the only thing i can come up with is that the lyrics put a voice to the thoughts so many people out there suppress–that feeling of inadequacy, especially.  the instrumental and melody put a different emotion to those thoughts, a conquer-all kind of feel, like it doesn’t really matter how ugly or inadequate you feel, because you are so much more than that.

    i think the turning-point messages have been done so many times.  It’s certainly meaningful, and I do love songs like that. but i also like 2NE1′s creative way to get the same message across.  
    As for my vote: 2NE1. definitely.  I love CNBLUE too, and I loved Intuition, but even besides the fact that I’m a Blackjack, 2NE1′s video just made more sense, and was more meaningful.  Plus the glow-in-the-dark paint at the end there is simply awesome. xD

  • http://www.facebook.com/katy.maloney Katy Maloney

    I was gonna give my vote to 2NE1 without even seeing CN Blue’s video, but eh, figured I might as well give them a fair chance: however, they still fail. They almost scored points for painting the SUV with the owner still in it, but what the hell is UP with leaving all their gear and even their freakin’ band name written on top the building?! Way to go stoopid, now the fat foreign guards know who you are, and they hold your gear hostage.

    2NE1 destroys property for the hell of it, not for free publicity. THAT’S badass. Ugly’s sounds more “rock” than CN Blue’s song, and 2NE1 don’t even play actual instruments, that is sorta lame don’t you think? Plus 2NE1 set their illegal hangout place on fire at least, y’know, destroying the evidence and walking away without looking, because cool guys (and gals) don’t look at explosions, they blow things up and then walk away. *nods* -> http://youtu.be/Sqz5dbs5zmo

    And well, haven’t we already established CL is the baddest female Seoul City ever had? I rest my case…

  • reality check

    I know the lyrics for ‘Ugly’ does seem contradictory but if they were aiming to make me realize that it’s pathetic to wallow in self-pity…then they did a great job. In one part their voicing out insecurities most people feel which kind of says that it’s pretty normal to feel inadequate, everybody feels that way or something like that. The chorus kind of summarizes the whole idea and it does voice out the very same things I say to myself when I feel really down but the thing is although I can relate to the idea it kind of is like a wake-up call for me. It sort of makes me hear myself and the things I say to myself and then I realize, “This is wrong…I’m thinking the wrong way.” So then I feel kind of emancipated…sort of, “Yeah, I’m ugly according to your standard but that’s not gonna stop me from being myself and succeeding…” Ironically this song feels more affirmative for me compared to say, “I am beautiful no matter what they say…” or the similar kind. I think this is why a lot of people, especially girls think it’s an inspiring song. Unique approach, powerful message.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    With mostly everyone agreeing to it being a song with a powerful meaning , and complimenting 2ne1 I just want to point out the man behind this song too and that is Teddy. I mean he produced this song and all the other great songs for 2ne1 so don’t forget to give credit to him too. Just saying.

  • livenlife223r

    I was one of the first to see the video when it first was uploaded onto YouTube; I remember all the European fans going on about how awesome the song was.  I think it’s a really good song… catchy… I find myself singing it in the shower.  Then again, it’s a matter of personal taste for that kind of song.  I agree w/ you about the lyrics, however.  They really should be more uplifting, and it seemed weird for 2NE1 to be singing like this.  But the song has a nice bridge/closing. Also, songs like these seem lacking in Kpop.  I’m glad 2NE1 shows different facets to themselves and can appeal to people w/ different musical tastes.

  • Anonymous

    Is that Heartstrings on your laptop? :)

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