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B2ST – Beautiful Night: Kpop Music Mondays

August 7, 2012

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B2ST is finally back with an awesome song and a video that – to us – at first seemed fun, but then turned out to be quite disturbing. If you haven’t seen it yet, here it is:

Ok, so we’re worried with this week’s Music Monday that we might come across as angry, so we want to clarify that, indeed, we are not angry. We are just passionate when it comes to expressing our opinions. We’re not name calling anyone here; we’re trying to present our points in a logical and – hopefully – convincing manner. We’re also quite disappointed. Simon and I have talked about this video a lot. We’ve tried to figure out why we feel so disappointed with it and we’ve come to the realization that are several factors contributing to our sense of disappointment.

To begin with, let’s talk about our personal experiences with Kpop, and then maybe you’ll get a sense of why we’re so let down by this video. we got into kpop only once we started living in Korea, before the hallyu wave really hit the overseas shores of our hometown. Having been in Korea for over four years now, and now fully converted to Kpop evangelists, we’re excited whenever kpop makes its presence felt in North America. It’s something we had no clue existed beforehand, so when we see it now in North America, we’re quite happy about it, not only because it shows that Kpop is doing pretty well, but also because it reveals all the hidden kpop fans and the special subcultures that comes with it. When we went to California for the Google Kpop Concert we were just BLOWN away by all the people waiting in line before the show and all the fans cheering at the concert. It was like, “OMG! Look at all these like-minded people that are into kpop! OMG! They know the dance to this song! OMG! They know the lyrics! The fan chants! The names of the idols!!!”

Moments of connection like this, for us, are rare. Even though we live in Korea, it might be surprising to people to hear that only ONE of our friends actually likes kpop. The rest are either indifferent to it, or absolutely hate it. And we’re talking here about both our foreign friends AND our Korean friends. In turn, if it wasn’t for you guise visiting our website, we wouldn’t really have anyone to talk to about Kpop besides each other.

So, we were really excited that B2ST was going to film in NYC, because we felt like this was a great opportunity to show kpop outside of the boxes in music videos in Korea, to show that it’s not only present in other parts of the world, but quite big there as well. It seems like every time I tried to introduce kpop to my friends back home, I found that every group with more then six members failed to impress them immediately. Bad English lost their focus, too much makeup on guys brought grimaces, and synchronized dancing for too much of the video was alienating…arghhh!!! SO FRUSTRATING!!) while I feel like groups like B2ST, SHINee, Girls Generation, Boyfriend, B1A4, Girls Day, Super Junior (and I could name more) are more difficult to introduce to people who aren’t already interested in Asian culture or Korea in general. I find that people who have zero interest and connection to Asian culture are really quick to judge a band by the way they look or the English they butcher. I’m sure you guise have experienced your non-kpop friends saying your favourite band “looks like they’re all gay” or “has way too many members” or “looks weird with those contact lenses”. B2ST in New York City would show them that, yes, you might not like them that much, but they’re quite big in the U.S. Give them another chance, maybe!

This video would be that chance! This video could have shown that Kpop is cool! And it could have been done, easily, with your help. I have a strong feeling that B2ST has tons of fans living in NYC. I JUST KNOW IT. These fans may not chat with each other on a regular basis or be even aware of each other’s existence, but if B2ST put out a message saying that they needed B2ST fans for their video in New York City, B2ST would be flooded with throngs of genuinely excited kpop fans. Instead – and this is not blame we’re placing on the members of B2ST because they are just following the orders of their company – we get this awkward sham of a music video which just reeks of fake fake fake. Yes, kpop is cool, but – come on – no one believes it’s as cool as this video makes it out to be. Graffiti artists, BMX bikers, people with low riders – they’re not the ones that listen to Kpop, and all of you know it. Sure, there may be SOME who do, but generally Korean Pop music is not a part of that culture. In trying to make B2ST and Kpop look cool by hiring a bunch of actors that represent another cool culture, they just made B2ST look like posers. Awkward, awkward posers. Such a frickin’ waste of a great opportunity.

It’s usually our friends who cringe at kpop music videos, not us. So, we sent this video to some of our friends who we mentioned above, and asked them what they thought. They most notably laughed at B2ST clothing, they called B2ST posers for singing pop music in low riders, they wanted to know why there was a DJ spinning when there was clearly no scratching present in the song, and overall they thought that the video looked like it was trying too hard to be “cool”. They found it awkward, just as we found it awkward.

Kpop companies are trying soooo hard to be successful overseas, but they will ALWAYS be successful for those of us that are already kpop fans. Breaking into the non-initiated kpop crowd should be their goal, but it feels like their marketing strategies are so poorly conceived. You can’t trick a North American audience into listening to B2ST because you hired a bunch of actors to pretend that they like B2ST. You could interest them, though, by showing some of the genuine hype surrounding Kpop. This video wasn’t for the world to watch, though. It was for Korean people to watch, so that they can say “Wow! Look at all the beautiful white and black people who like B2ST!” Seriously: where are the Asian people in this video? Are they not both a significant part of A) The Kpop Crowd and B) New York City?!?! Why were there no Asian people in the crowds in this video? Was that accidental or intentional? And, if you think it was intentional, what do you think it says about how B2ST and Kpop are marketed?

ARGHHH!!!!! *Martina collapses in frustration* I’ve had it. Guise, what do you think? Are we totally wrong? Did the B2ST video look great to you? Have you shown any of your non-kpop friends? All I know is that I need a cupcake. *mumbles while eating imaginary cupcake*

Anyhow, we’ve got nothing against this song or B2ST as a whole. We just really dislike this video both in execution and in principle. But, that doesn’t change the fact that this is still an awesome song. We’d like to give away a new B2ST Midnight Sun album, in support of the band itself. We’ll be hearing their song played outside everywhere. Fortunately, we won’t have to watch their video anymore. So, if you’d like to get a B2ST CD or a TOTALLY AWESOME BATOOST SHIRT, here’s what you gotta do:

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That’s it! We’ll pick two winners next week, and the first to contact us gets first choice in either CD or T-Shirt. If you’d like to get the CD yourself, you can pick it up at YesAsia. Not sure why it’s not on iTunes yet! And, lastly, though this was a bit of a serious Music Monday, we do have some bloopers that make us seem less serious. Our friend, Brendon, who you might remember from our Gangnam Style video, isn’t really the best actor. We’re working on it, though. Soon, he’ll be as Oscar worthy as we are :D Also, add a scene in there that we cut out from the main video: our comparison of B2ST’s video to Big Bang’s “Bad Boy” and Sistar’s “Loving You”. So, it’s not all jokes in the bloopers as well.

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  1. 100% Has to be Hyunseungs red suit/shorts outfit omg it looked so great with his hair! i loved it! oh and my youtube user is jaydeisvip :D

    4 years ago
  2. We agree, once again, about the video.
    This is what I said when I shared the video two weeks ago:
    “Nice song, typically cheesy “look, we’re in America, so we’re cool” video.

    All of those people in their audiences have the most obvious “Who are
    these guys? Whatever just dance! :D” faces I’ve ever seen. xD”

    I’m totally all for the song, but yeah, I don’t like watching the video at all unless I want to get a giggle going. While production was nice, it really does come off as very fake. What a shame. But again, the song is really great, and that’s all I care about.

    I don’t know any of these guys’ names, but my favorite outfit is at 1:00 – the one who knocked on the wrong door. I went from staring at his shoes to a nice BAM of red suit all over the screen. I kind of think it actually looks decent on him, though. xD
    YT Username: MamushiLove

    4 years ago
  3. Dr. Meemersworth was so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!! The review was good too. I really appreciate how both of you are so objective and realistic when it comes to reviewing something or answering questions. I really appreciate all the thought and effort you guys put into all of your reviews. :D

    4 years ago
  4. “You are just a freeloader” that was sooo funny….yeah he have to work hard for his food =))

    4 years ago
  5. I enjoy the knife scene.

    4 years ago
  6. Was that “Ouran high school host club” music in the last few seconds of the bloopers? I immediately thought of Honey-sempai when Dr. Meemersworth was talking.

    4 years ago
  7. As someone who lives in the ghetto (South Bronx in NYC, anyone else? D:), it actually really infuriates me when I see celebrities in general attempt to show participation in this culture without actually participating in it. I hated Big Bang’s Bad Boy (MV, not song) for this and this one as well. The urban subculture is often ostracized and there are so many preconceived notions on how rough it is, so to see people who aren’t apart of it glorify it without touching foot in it is frustrating and demeaning (especially as a KPop fan who lives in the ghetto with no one to talk to about it). Why are you pretending to be apart of this culture? What image are you trying to associate yourself with this culture by pretending to be in it? Why aren’t you using this to reach out to this culture and your fans instead of pretending to? It’s irritating and I wish it would stop

    So I’m really glad you guys spoke about this. It’s something that needs to be addressed for more than just K-Pop.

    4 years ago
  8. My favorite outfit is Dongwoons. You should already know why :D Apparently, they were allowed to pick their own outfits from a store in NYC, and it just made me wonder how he’d think looking like a ghetto cowboy was the answer. I love the outfits, all of them. But his is by far the best. I think it shows that he isn’t afraid to (attempt) to embrace the western culture. Albeit, he should know we dont dress as cowboys and cowgirls anymore, but I think his intention was to show his interest in the culture.
    Puckey07 = my youtube username

    4 years ago
  9. True. SOMETIMES it really sucks to be an asian fan since kpop idols/companies give special attention to non-asian fans. You’re just in front of oppar but he will never notice since your face is common XD

    4 years ago
  10. I’M SO OFFENDED ! not really. I agree with you guys. I love the song but that video is just… not great. When I first saw it I said “batoost, the most colorful gangstas I’ve ever seen” .

    4 years ago
  11. :D I didn’t see that coming, but it actually makes sense. I wonder why they didn’t ask actual fans to party with B2st. The video was a bit awkward in some aspects, but I couldn’t really put my finger on what exactly was so awkward, I guess I’m so used to seeing awkward Kpop music videos, that I don’t realise it anymore :D Still love you B2st :) And you guys as well, Simon and Martina. :)

    4 years ago
  12. I really like the Black/Red suits that they all wore in some of the night shots near the end of the video. I think that they were pleasing to the eyes, yet different. The black faded into the red perfectly without it looking awkward, and it fit their body types well. *Youtube username: kpop4worldpeace *

    4 years ago
  13. I’m a white kpop fan…

    4 years ago
  14. You guys seem kinda worried xD I appreciate your honesty :) Even though I thought you guys were nit picking a little bit >.>…. While the music video is definitely not accurate, it was made for entertainment purposes, so I myself don’t hate the video, but I can see your point.

    4 years ago
  15. OMG !!! the english i heard was exactly the same as what simon heard !! not until i seen their live performance with lyrics at the bottom that i know its/ im your nobody/ !!!

    4 years ago
  16. I really couldn’t agree more with you two! I love B2ST and I love this song but the music video, eh not good AT ALL in my books!

    4 years ago
  17. thank you guys so much!!!! these were the EXACT problems i had with this video!!!!! i was like eeewww what is with that car?? and just the whole setting and everything!! it just didn’t go!! i was like yeah, that’s so right to see a bunch of kpop boys dressed in what i thought was some ugly outfits and hairdos (some of them though) acting like they belong in the area and fit in!! it was awkward!!

    4 years ago
  18. I don’t think them shooting anywhere outside of Korea has to do with anything. It could still be Kpop even if they do film their video overseas. It’s just their creative team that sucks.

    4 years ago
    • There are many Korean videos shot overseas over the years. This isn’t anything new. I mean does any know of LOVE by S.E.S? That’s filmed in NYC. And I know there was a kpop concert in DC over 10 years ago. Kpop is now bigger, but they always had some foothold in the USA.

      4 years ago
      • I kind-of get what you are saying. It seems there is this sort of “low class” thing going on with Korean culture being “Korean.” All the rich people in Korean dramas don’t know certain Korean foods, don’t drink soju, but only imported wine, etc. And they seem to always eat spaghetti (which cracks me up since it is so dirt cheap here)

        It reflexes a little in kpop. I mean Jpop has some old Japanese influences in their music videos (IE kimonos, food, etc) but not so much in Kpop. I haven’t seen a Hanbok in a music video. Honestly. I can think of several kimonos in Jpop videos- or at least nod to the kimonos.

        Again, this isn’t anything new. I can’t think of an old video even that shows Korean culture in it other than something very modern. Can anyone else think of any?

        4 years ago
        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCJ4hKo900 drinking culture etc
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZXNUUYep2g plastic surgery which happens a lot in korea, also the issue that keeping your job isn’t easy, also drinking etc,…

          it’s not that hard to find korean culture in kpop songs, there will always be a part in it, like korean fashion or so.. but these days, the song elvis by AOA and others are too not korean. the mv of elvis is so french like… that’s what i am trying to say :) it’s nice to see cultures, and when i watch and listen kpop, i expect to see korean culture, if i didn’t want to see that, i would probabbly just listen to other pop songs. :)

          4 years ago
        • Hmm….Didn’t Fantastic Baby have a Korean hat? That GD wore?
          But yes, I’ve noticed that inferiority complex that some countries have. It saddens me sometimes, it’s kinda like, “Where’s your patriotism yo?!” …though I think I would still prefer that over racist arrogance.
          Btw, I’m not naming any names. It’s getting a bit touchy and I want to stay clear. -_-

          4 years ago
        • I THINK I know what you mean, but I always thought it was the face mask just flipped up. But maybe it is suppose to be a traditional hat- or at least suppose to resemble it. Funny that you mention it because when writing the other comment I was thinking about that video and how they are wearing crowns, and TOP is wearing all the old timey European garb.

          Clearly there is patriotism in Korea. Otherwise there wouldn’t be so many historical dramas.

          4 years ago
        • I wasn’t talking about Korea……I know nothing about Korea. As I said, I’m not naming any countries. Let’s drop it? :p

          4 years ago
  19. i completely agree with this entire review. When that famous 5 member male idol group went to film in NYC for those two songs, the mood and atmosphere flowed perfectly with their song. They didnt show a fake NYC and in turn weren’t being fake themselves.

    I dont mind them shooting in the States or anywhere overseas but it do mind it when they film something that they could have just done in Korea. It’s like “so you went all the way to the US… for this?” like SISTAR with Alone. I was like, “WHY?” they’re not even showing us anything. For that they could have just rented out a Korean club and emptied it out. -.-

    4 years ago
  20. xDD omg I didn’t notice Hyunseung’s…….dance… eherm.. before xDD great music mondays AND I don’t hate you guys… and I’m a beatooty? xD Gotta agree with a lot you said here.. no asian people for example :/ EYK fighting~!

    4 years ago
  21. Didn’t B2st’s agency advertise for “caucasian female models ONLY” on Craig’s List for this M/V? I think that’s why there are no Asians/African Americans/etc

    4 years ago
    • Well exactly, why not “K-pop fans”?

      4 years ago
      • there were about 10-15 of us in the video that were fans

        4 years ago
      • I just asked myself the same thing, but maybe they only wanted the most beautiful people in their music video? And maybe a lot of Kpop fans are too young? But I guess it would’ve been less expensive if they just told B2st fans, “Free B2st concert! Come and party with us for their new music video” :D I don’t get it.

        4 years ago
        • ppl need to know the ppl who hired us were hired by b2sts prod crew

          4 years ago
    • There were POC in the fake audience… this was clearly debunked.

      4 years ago
  22. I just wanna say that I am a big BATOOST fan and I totally agree with you guys about the video. I think a lot of times producers in Asian countries of any kind (be it for movies or tv shows or music videos) always want to keep up this image that western countries have ONLY white people. They probably only included black people in this instance because of the ‘street’ theme in the video. And all of that made me feel icky too!! :C

    As for the outfits, I’m gonna have to go with Dongwoon’s ridiculous hot pink pimp suit type thing. Had he actually been sporting that in NYC in a non music video context…I don’t know how he would have survived. The crazy jewelry just made it shine will silliness all the more. If only he’d been carrying a cane with a giant diamond on top!

    Youtube username is shortcynic. :D

    4 years ago
  23. Ugh, I’m really really sorry for all the hate you’re going to get for this because it was an amazing review. 8(

    4 years ago
  24. I think Simon would perfectly fit in Batoost’s video xD he has more swag than everyone else haha and omg Martina I love your pink hair!!

    4 years ago
  25. I agree with the Asian thing bc I wanted 2 go with my friend so yeah i agree but I &hearts: the song though!

    4 years ago
  26. I losssssssssssssssst my moneeeeeey!!!!!!!!!! Oh batoost you lost your money in NY

    4 years ago
  27. WAIT, there’s a website to learn how to pronounce B2ST?????? And B2ST definitely takes it this time, at least 2PM had sassy finger snapping.

    4 years ago
  28. your bloopers….were hard to watch. . . . the “YG BIAS” loop thing gave me a headache. lol

    4 years ago
  29. ….WAIT WHAT?!

    So you mean to say I’ve been singing that line wrong ALL THIS TIME??? :'(

    I sincerely thought it was: I LOOOOOSST MY MONEY!!! :'(

    #FAIL

    4 years ago
  30. No worries Simon & Martina.. I am a B2UTY but I agree with what you guys said about the MV ): The song is soo good, the MV…… :S

    4 years ago
  31. W O W. I swear I’ve been watching B2ST’s video like 1765t89 times a day everyday since it came out and I never thought about that. But now that you guys mention it, it is totally true. I don’t think of them as fake or posers though. I indeed still LOVE the song and like the video since it seemed like at least THEY (B2ST) had so much fun doing it. Actually I had thought about the fact that why did they hire those people that I’m like 99.9% sure they had no idea who B2ST was at first. I was more in shock about their clothes and hair at first not noticing the point of the video first x3 sorry… but Yep I totally agree. Still I love and truly support B2ST till the end, B2ST FIGHTING!!

    Ps. The kitty was SUPER adorable (and I’m a dog luver lol btw the dog was the cutest thing ever!!)

    4 years ago
  32. Just FYI B2ST’s first ever song was really upbeat-sounding (Bad Girl) although the meaning was sad. Also, Beautiful was pretty upbeat and happy too. I will say though that in general I guess they go for serious songs.

    4 years ago
  33. Simon i am from NYC! Its kinda offense with that accent. And no Facebook for the cd and shirt, :'(. And we dont mugg ppl that much here, (I have been living here all my life so yeah) No facebook No!

    4 years ago
  34. Simon & Martina – did you not hear about the “Caucasian model types” only ad on Craigslist from Beast’s management? That’s why you didn’t see Asian women, and that’s why you didn’t see Hispanic women, Native women, and only one black woman (friends with the dancers?). Pathetic and offensive attempt at culture IMO.

    4 years ago
    • Stop being so negative Tiffany.
      I’m not saying that what happened with the blackface wasn’t wrong, (which btw, it wasn’t BEAST who did it, it was just Gi Kwang) but you shouldn’t be blaming BEAST. You think that Gi Kwang said “Hey! I wanna be racist today, so imma do this skit :D”?
      No. He didn’t voluntarily do that. Sure, he could have refused to do the skit, and then he could have suffered consequences from his manager.
      Once again, in absolutely no way am I saying that this type of thing is ever okay, but you’re not being fair. How would you like it if you did something basically against your will, and people labeled you for life?

      4 years ago
    • Yeah, we heard about it, but we didn’t want to comment on it because we weren’t sure if it was true or not. Was it confirmed, or just a rumor?

      4 years ago
      • Its true.. A local ad hiring caucasian women. Probably a quota to fill in the mv. They even put beast in the ad so actors might be fans. Lol

        4 years ago
      • I was actually in the video! :D I’m one of the male fans haha
        Martina! you drew an arrow to me in the video at 2:05! :D I’m the hispanic guy all the way in the back.

        There were actually 4 black women, several hispanic women, and quite a number of asian women as well. In front of me you can see two hispanic women and 2 asians women.(2:05)

        Those rumors about the ads that were flying around the internet might’v been true but I dont know since I never saw that specific ad on craigslist, but there were several other ads on the internet asking for other ethnicities as well not just Caucasian >.<

        4 years ago
        • If what you said is true, I don’t think it makes it any less disgraceful that the closeups are still only largely on the white “model” types…it reinforces what we are taught about racial prejudice in Korea (that all colored people are bad somehow). Idk I’m just not buying it after seeing blackface on them and other ignorant comments. If they wanted other races why is the video largely white? I would’ve loved to see them interacting with real fans, not some faux upscale high rise party of tall, thin, beautiful people.

          4 years ago
        • And you obviously don’t know very much about Beast if you think that was the only incident.

          4 years ago
        • I was just pointing out the blackface incident? I said “because of the blackface incident”, so I was just explaining that particular one, and where it could have made it seem like a Beast member was being racist. There’s no other blackface incident other than that, unless you seem to know Beast better than me.

          4 years ago
        • true. im a b2uty, i know how much the boys looks up to artists like chris brown, omarion, especially hyunseung. sad thing theres even some people even left the fandom because of the rumours.and im pretty sure beast isnt responsible in casting the extra/editing the mv, so why the hate on them? another thing i notice is how skinnier some of these boys look, kinda feel sad cause theyve been really busy, and when their comeback i heard this stupid racist rumour *mental facepalm* anyways theres already people from the set sayin theres also other ethnicities. i guess u cant please everyone, people will find other things to bitch at~

          4 years ago
      • Oh, and btw I completely agree pretty much 100% with your evaluation on the video. I love the song, but I thought the video was a joke–especially Hyunsung…lol. The only thing I’d add is that I found it really offensive even as an Asian person that there were like no black women in the video considering how large the population is there. This kinda reminds me of how GD&TOP used white models in a lot of their videos instead of Asians or other races.

        4 years ago
        • get your fact straight next time.

          4 years ago
        • Who’s mad?
          >.>
          <.<

          4 years ago
        • atleast gd&top’s vid had a real audience its not like they were paid to act as a fan

          4 years ago
      • Tbh I think the video is confirmation lol…Beast’s management and some of the members have a really bad history of making racist comments or requests such as making all the colored people in their Spain concert go to the back of the room (including a pregnant woman) to “unify” the crowds or something…even after paying for front row tickets. I haven’t heard any definite confirmation from anyone who was at the shoot, but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it was real since Bigbang’s casting call in New York was legit.

        4 years ago
        • why are all the people making and believing all the fake rumors, why?
          sigh….

          4 years ago
        • because all they saw was one of the ads and automatically think theyre racist, There were several ads circulating around the web and no one has yet to mention them because those ask for other ethnicities not just caucasian >..<

          4 years ago
        • thats not true!
          really ?
          are you serious? o.o

          4 years ago
  35. Great job by Brendon by the way on this and the Gangnam Style video. He should be an honorary member of EYK. :)

    As for Batoost, the video reminds me of failed efforts by JPop groups to enter the North American market about 5-10 years ago. Instead of playing to their strengths (and letting people appreciate them as they are), they tried really hard to look “cool” or “hip” and looked really awkward in the process. They’re out of their element, and look like poseurs. It seems some KPop agencies are falling into the same trap.

    4 years ago
  36. i completely agree with your blog (i need to watch the review now!). I was so disappointed when i saw on allkpop some pics of Batoost in NYC~~what the hey! how come i didn’t know they’d be there! i live less than 2 hours from the city, and, while i don’t love NYC, i’ll go into town for a once in a lifetime opportunity! so i watched the music video, and, again~~what the hey!! it was disappointing. i’m not introducing any of my hard-to-convince friends to kpop using this one… just… no.

    4 years ago
    • lol can i be the first (and hopefully only) to be so very deeply offended … Greenwich might be spelled Greenwich, but it’s pronounced “grennich” like… like a grenadine sandwich? without the w. now, hows about that be the ONLY thing people give you flack for…?

      4 years ago
  37. well,people has different taste i guess and i have shown this video to my non kpop friends and she like it and now became B2ST fan!^^ anyways thanks Simon and Martina to review this.i thought you review the song a little bit.B2ST fighting…i love them so much! :D

    4 years ago
  38. FINALLY!!!!
    SIMON GOT TO WEAR HIS BATTTOOOOST SHIRT!!!!
    (‾▿‾)┌(_o_)┐ (/‾▿‾)/

    4 years ago
  39. ITS UP! THANKS S&M :)

    4 years ago
  40. YES first!

    4 years ago
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