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Battle of the B Name Boy Bands: BAP and BTS

February 25, 2014

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Welcome back to a new week of videos! We’re starting off this week with our Kpop Music Monday on BTS and BAP. Sorry BtoB fans: that video just wasn’t our cup of tea. It’s a shame, though, because if we included them, we could have talked about how you can rearrange their letters to spell Batost, which is close enough to Batoost in our hearts.

But on to more awards for things we didn’t talk about in our Music Monday!

And the award for the worst English goes to: BTS

We’re not talking about the song here. I’m talking about the written English. Boy in Luv? Skool Luv Affair? Spelling like that doesn’t make you look cool. It makes you look like a dummy. Cut that out already.

And the award for the least interesting symbolism goes to: BAP

Sorry guise. BAP’s done these “I try to be deep with symbolism while I cry all the time” videos before with Rain Sound. I’m married and in a happy relationship. I don’t want to pull meaning out of symbols for sad relationships, because even if you looked at Bang Yong Gook digging around a rib cage and think “OH that represents a heart” it doesn’t add anything else to the meaning of the video, since it’s already about being relationship sad. ZZzzzZZ. You can say the same thing for Illuminati symbolism, which people can dig for if they want, but that kind of analysis bores me, as does the symbolism for videos like this.

Artsy symbolism in Kpop videos isn’t really that original or interesting to me. You might have to find someone else to tell you that this is a masterpiece. You won’t find high praise for that here. TOP’s “Doom Dada” is an example of something more meaningful.

And the award for the most cringeworthy name goes to: Rap Monster

This is the worst name I’ve heard in all of kpop. I’m sorry. It’s even worst than Teen Top’s “Emotional Vocal.” See, I grew up listening to hip hop seriously. To hear someone in a Kpop boy band call themselves Rap Monster makes me feel so much embarrassment that I can’t even say the name out loud. Anyone who is into hip hop as much as I am, if I said to them “hey there’s a member of a pop band who calls himself Rap Monster” they would also feel embarrassed. Sorry guise. Maybe the perception of Hip Hop is different here than where I’m from, but, oh man it burns me with awkwardness. Rap Monster? I don’t care if you’re good at rapping or not: DON’T CALL YOURSELF RAP MONSTER. Are you friends with Hiphopopotamus and Rhymenoceros as well? Is Lyrical Wizard and Mic Checka both a part of your rap crew as well? Hey, is your crew called “Rhyme Time” or “Master Rhyme Blasters”? OH GAWD STAHP PLZ STAHP.

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  1. I feel like I should give a shoutout to the dancing in both of the videos, BTS has some sick moves and Jongup could have broken the wall much easier with his pelvis thrust to be honest…

    3 years ago
    • MmM

      I was waiting for Simon and Martina to mention the dancing! It seems to me that BTS has been really knocking it out of the park with their choreography since debut :)

      3 years ago
      • Definitely! Their choreography is nothing like any other boyband out there. They’re always masculine with that graceful hint of swag (that is always masterfully pulled off by Jimin), and they outdo themselves with each passing video. Even the choreography for their award show performances is just plain old sick. So I was also surprised and very disappointed that s&m just completely ignored such a great aspect of good video by a great group.

        3 years ago
        • Yeah I quite liked BAP’s opening dance (wish there’d been more of it, honestly) and BTS always has pretty amazing dances!

          3 years ago
  2. BTOB is still on your chart to the right of this page, does that mean you’ll be reviewing it next time? I vote for BTS on this one because BTS. xD but seriously they just continued their school theme and this song(although the MV kinda failed in showing it properly) talks about frustrations of young boys who are clueless in their first(?) puppy loves. Then there’s namjoon’s cringeworthy name. You should listen to We Are Bulletproof pt.2 , Cyhper pt.2: Triptych, and the intro of this album understand why he claims to be rap monster.(I still prefer using his real name tbh)

    3 years ago
  3. Haha, Simon your rant on Rap Monster’s name, and the English was hilarious. This was a great KMM. I almost died laughing. Which I should be careful of, cuz I’m sick. T^T

    3 years ago
  4. J9

    Also…as for evolution…I guess you never saw this…are you happy for evolution now? Hahahahaha~~~ I guess Block b should have stayed the same….8P Oh lovely debut songs~~~

    블락비(Block B) – Tell Them(가서 전해) MV

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbd0__eS_uc

    3 years ago
    • MmM

      I’m glad you brought this up! I still like this song and video, but oh, how far Block B has come :P
      I don’t think I would call this aegyo though. When I think of aegyo I think gwiyomi, pastel colours, animal onesie nonsense like Boyfriend’s “On and On” and DBSK’s “Balloons”, where there’s basically no point to the video except to exhibit how cute the group is. “Tell Them” just had a more fun/laid back concept that still showed the guys rapping, dancing, and goofing off in a teenage-skater-party kind of setting. They acted WAY more cute and light-hearted than they do now, but the video had a plot and didn’t depend at all on how adorable the members are capable of acting.
      “Action” though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRjbO8Kx0jM
      Because what could represent letting loose and having fun better than dying of boredom on a low-budget wind farm while you wait for help to arrive and repair the company van?
      …Let’s just pretend that never happened.

      3 years ago
  5. The intensity of Simon’s thrusting dance moves and his facial expressions can only be summed up into one word…Dedication! You’ve got to do it right or why bother doing it at all!

    3 years ago
  6. J9

    I’m a little disappointed with this review. I’m all for the funny jokes and stuff, but it seemed like you guys were just ratting on the videos instead of actually reviewing them. The lyrics in 1004 are actually pretty cool, and although Boy in Luv isn’t my favourite song on the BTS album, the rest of the album is freaking AMAZING! I think it’s also worth mentioning that these guys compose, write and produce almost ALL of their songs. Do you know many rookie groups that do that? Did B.A.P do that when they started? Perhaps that could have been a contrast you could have talked about. Mind you, 1004 WAS written by B.A.P this go round, so that is a point of evolution on their part.

    I don’t know, I think that you guys went a little overboard with some of the skits and there wasn’t a whole lot of reviewing or contrasting. it was JUST poking fun, not reviewing.

    Similar to what someone else has mentioned, I don’t think that BTS is simply going to change their image so easily. Three of them were very active in the underground, and their other stuff is super legit. Like the BTS Cypher PT. 2 : Triptych is freaking AMAZING. They respond to underground rappers that have been making comments / through their music, making fun of BTS (calling them ‘sellouts’), and it’s a freaking AWESOME response. I also have noticed that BTS is being the ‘voice’ of Korea, like you had hoped GD would be. In the past few albums these guys have been tackling issues that students in Korea have been facing: being forced to do a job they don’t want, studying intensely, crushing your friends so you can succeed. I think these guys definitely have the potential to be the next voice of Korea.

    B.A.P’s album was definitely more experimental; however, I think there are still aspects of B.A.P that are in the songs. ex. Daehyun’s scream/singing at the climax of the song lol. I think these songs also gave the singers of the group a little more show time rather than continuous rapping from BYG and Zelo…

    Anyway, enough ranting. I think you guys could have done a lot more with this video. And why bother mentioning BTOB at ALL if you weren’t going to feature them in your video. Perhaps instead of just saying “It was boring. We didn’t like it” you could have at least mentioned WHY you didn’t like it. Even if it was only one or two lines of explanation. Otherwise, I don’t think it was necessary to mention them and get fans hopes up lol

    Anywhoodlepoodle. This format of KMM definitely isn’t my favourite. It’s okay every once and again but…yeah, I’m not sure if this format was very fair / showcased real reviewing.

    3 years ago
    • Just because a rookie group composes, writes and produces most their songs doesn’t mean it is great. Also, they were only reviewing “skool luv affair” (gosh it does not feel great to spell that out >_<), not the whole album. Perhaps if they waited, they could have put out a better song? (like bap). I liked this review, but some people don't because they do not count it as a 'review'. The thing is, it is. Let's look at it from this view: Is it EYK's fault that the top 3 videos lacked a concept with a powerful meaning? Maybe Nasties need to step up their game a bit and vote for review worthy videos?

      They mentioned that there isn't any realistic symbolic meaning to it (in the symbolic form of knocking out the character who tries their best to find symbolism in the non-symbolic videos). The guys even abused the girl and then gave her a flower saying he loves her. They did touch on that but how much farther can they go with this? In the early days maybe they could have squeezed something more out, but the kpop videos are getting ridiculously repetitive and worn out (I'm talking about the videos that keep getting the top spot- there are a lot of other great kpop videos out their however).

      Boy, I am really feeling EYK's frustration with disclaimers. It's like they need to put in bold print

      THE SYMBOLISM IN HERE FREAKIN SUX DONT EVEN TRY TO GO THERR.

      I think you fail to see that they did review it. They just added their touch of humor to their message (which is the main reason I like them so much). Look for the meaning in the jokes and skits. Like the hip thrusting skit: great dance, but for the wrong music. What other professional youtubers can talk about kpop in this way?

      I don't know if you're familiar with 'colbert report', but it is an american tv late night show. The host, a political humorist, talks about the world news but his sarcasm and humor add a personal touch to the show. (C.R. has won multiple awards so they is doing something right) just watching 5 minutes and you'll understand.

      I wanted to write this because the number of ups on your comment right now is 430, and dislike is zero (even though i clicked down, it wouldn't show my number, and i think it is not counting others). I hope the EYK crew can read this and see that it is just a number. But on the upside, on YT the likes are 4K and dislikes are 1K.

      Maybe the fans are upset because they really like their groups and to see that the video they voted for turned out to be a very thin concept video. VIDEO might I add, not the music, but the VIDAYO!! and I personally really did like this kpop music monday. I like how EYK is bold sometimes in their jokes, but i guess not everyone does. Of course EYK meant no disrespect to any group, they are just making light of what kpop takes so seriously. (Let's not pretend like we don't poke fun at their names either…. B.A.P = best absolute perfect? how about bunnies are puffy or umm the other thing i shouldn't spell out lol)

      I wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings, this is just my opinion. It's good to get both negative and positive feedback, but i think you're review was too negative (but if I think it did help them). It just wasn't as bad as you made it out to be. If anything i blame the videos voted in the top spot. But I thought some people just misinterpreted.

      Anyways, let's look forward to next week!

      3 years ago
    • Hey can I start by saying that you make a ton of very valid points and I really love how your comment is very respectful and not angry rude or yelly.
      But that being said, I think we need to take some time out and try to analyze Simon and Martina’s video and understand where this is all coming from. This is clearly not something we are used to seeing from them, so why? Honestly, I think it really all comes down to a frustration on their part, or at least that’s what I got. Martina seemed really frustrated at BAP’s image change, but more than that I think she kind of saw this angry response coming and I think she may have been kind of frustrated at that too, hence the whole ‘I’m free!” bit. I think they are both frustrated at trying to balance people’s expectations and desires when it comes to EYK’s videos and their own opinions. Someone else said it in another comment, a kind of “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation for them and I would imagine they are tired of that. They clearly didn’t like any of these videos and so they told everyone that, albeit in a very bold way, and I think the boldness is what upset everyone.
      Also, I think so say that what they did isn’t “real reviewing” is a bit unfair because reviewing is a subjective thing at it’s heart and again, they didn’t like these songs and videos and they made it pretty clear why they did not, though they did mention some positives which a lot of people are overlooking. Moreover, to say that they ignored the positives of these songs and groups is also unfair because 1. maybe they just can’t see any and 2. we can’t expect them to try and FIND positives just to appease us. They already do so much for their fans, we can’t MAKE them make us happy all the time.
      I think people need to cut Simon and Martina some slack, they didn’t like these videos, so what? They have slammed songs and videos before. And if fans are upset because they were more blunt then before, say that respectfully. People are getting very emotional over this and forgetting the absolute most important thing about Simon and Martina, they listen to their fans and they GENUINELY care about us. So if we say, “hey guys, we didn’t really appreciate the bitch ass pussies comment for x y and z logically laid out reasons” they will take that into consideration, I am sure, because they are awesome like that. That was my rant =P

      3 years ago
      • They shouldn’t have to force themselves to find positives to balance out the negatives though. That wouldn’t be a true review. Sometimes people hate something more than they like it. Or sometimes something is more bad than it is good. People need to stop expecting that. I mean I saw a comment on here about how someone was upset that they didn’t mention how funny it was that one of the BTS members was sitting on a basketball hoop. And other comments like this. What does that have to with the review? Thats not a positive, its just a minor insignificant detail. You can’t expect them to touch on meaningless stuff to force out positive comments.

        3 years ago
      • MG

        I think this time it’s S&M fault not the Super duper fans like you call them. They had to expect this type of reaction. They were the instigators they were the ones that maligned the artist. You might not think of it as offensive or disrespectful but of course you realise changing a group acronym to Bitch Ass Pussies is definitely warranting of a negative response from others. I don’t think the makes them overly sensitive or fanatical or protective. I think that acronym they used was offensive enough.

        3 years ago
        • Can I just point out once and for all that they didn’t actually call BAP Bitch Ass Pussies. What Martina said was “ARE YOU Bitch Ass Pussies?” in the form of a question. Not “YOU ARE Bitch Ass Pussies” which is how everyone seems to think it was said. There is a big difference. It was a call out, like a hip hop battle type diss, not a direct insult to the group like you seem to be suggesting. I think that if people realize this difference, they’d be a lot less angry about it. Maybe not happy, but not as vile.

          3 years ago
        • like a hip hop battle type diss… i like that lol

          3 years ago
        • MG

          very good point I’ll rewatch it and then give it some thought. thank you for your reply and insight.

          3 years ago
    • ^^^^^^ This about summarizes every feeling I had about this KMM and a few other recent videos.

      3 years ago
    • I agree for the most part I mean bts is freaking amazing on photoping (an app) bts beat out SHINee , and even Bigbang I love bts possibly more than exo and I think that all of their albums are amazing it’s hard to believe that they are a rookie group they DEFINATELY deserve a LOT more praise if not for this video than at least another video like , concept trailer ( amazing choreography ), n.o (still amazing choreography and amazing point), no more dream ( altogether great ), Etc. I kinda feel like they were trying to find problems with it but still don’t get me wrong I love the video and love eyk.
      Ps: listen to the lyrics it will explain why jin and suga did that to her so please don’t give people the wrong idea like they were just beating her up for no reason plus they weren’t even beating her up in the first place, but still then again love the vid not trying to rag or complain or anything :) haha <3 just us kpop fans defending who we love sorry haha :)

      3 years ago
    • Can I say that I just love what you wrote? Holy smokes. This is why I’d rather read the comments on their website better than Youtube. There’s more construction of thought and a lot of constructive criticism that mentions our own displeasures, but yet we know that it’s something that CAN be changed.

      3 years ago
    • Totally agree with you. Simon and Martina should research at least a bit before “”””””reviewing”””””” or giving “”””constructive”””” criticism (FYI, to criticize includes pointing the good aspects and the bad ones, ok?) certain groups’ songs. It’s getting REALLY annoying.

      3 years ago
      • Here is some constructive criticism: “reviewing” & “constructing”. Only one set of speech marks is grammatically correct. :)

        3 years ago
    • MG

      Thank you for sharing, Everything you wrote was really informative for me. actually what I really look for from a reviewer is information about the music and group.

      3 years ago
    • J9

      I also agree that the message in Boy in Luv was awful. The abuse of the girl was not okay, and I’m totally okay with that constructive criticism. I don’t even really care that much that they made a lot of jokes. Whatever, it just wasn’t a review, which is what I personally liked about KMM before. In past videos there were some constructive stuff in the reviews mixed in with some funny (and not over the top) jokes. I love some of their jokes! It’s great! But yeah…this video was just a little too much.

      I don’t mean to hate on EYK. I LOVE their videos. Just…this one was too much attempt to be funny, and not enough reviewing.

      3 years ago
      • Jin wasn’t keen on the violence either, but the director made him do it. He apologised to the actress during their showcase because they kept on making him shove her harder and he didn’t want to do it.

        3 years ago
      • Well with the lyrics the MV is like how boys deal with their first love. First they are confused, get irritated, sometimes angry and ashamed… they can’t deal with their feelings and with the girl, they are too insecure and proud… but then they grow up and learn how to face with the girl and tell her their feelings and treat her nicer. I didn’t find it that bad because of this. I don’t think it’s a bad message and well young boys are like that and this concept matched well with BTS.

        3 years ago
        • This ^^ is important. I think the message the boys were trying to give was lost in those really aggressive scenes, which like I have stated before, I don’t think they were actually meant to be taken in a literal sense, but more from a metaphorical standpoint. I’m not defending it because I was really confused by those scenes as well and think they were a little much for what was trying to be put across, but overall the video WASN’T TERRIBLE.

          3 years ago
        • Jo

          With as long as EYK has been in Korea, I would think that they would have a better grasp of the language to be able to take away the meaning with the image presented in the video. They need to up their language game.

          3 years ago
    • I completely agree and well said. I mean I’m not a hug fan a B.A.P, but even if [email protected] A@@ Pussies was meant to joke around it still disrespects the group and their fans. I mean fans do usually understand that you guys constructively criticize the groups with your opinions and joke around, but I have to agree with them that this was going a little overboard. Seems you guys weren’t really thinking of the feelings of their fans and how they might have taken your joke this time :(

      3 years ago
      • I might just be playing a bias card here, but that sounds like bullshit. Have you ever been on tumblr? I dont understand why this turned into such a huge deal, or why people are actually getting angry over it. It was a joke, and meant to be taken as one, and truthfully, funny as hell. Fans insult their biases playfully ALL THE TIME. There really is no disrespect here, I’m actually surprised that a boatload of fans are jumping on the bandwagon and getting angry over this. Do you honestly believe that these roles they are playing in the MV are an accurate reflection of who they are? I think that B.A.P have a good enough sense of humor to realize that ‘Hey, its a joke, and its and MV anyway.’ I don’t mean to present myself as rude or insensitive, but this is my opinion, and my truth.

        3 years ago
      • I really don’t think B.A.P.’s feelings will be hurt if we poke fun at the name. It was funny to bring all the crying in the video to full circle with the acronym of their name. In three days, who will care about this joke? Old news….
        If this joke really upsets you, just imagine the members laughing along. It really meant nothing more than a silly joke.

        3 years ago
        • Yeah, honestly considering what S&M meant (i.e. BAP keeps crying in the video)….it wasn’t really…that offensive? Even speaking as a huge BAP fan. I guess some people will react to anything negative as if it was a big deal…..

          3 years ago
        • they even explained the joke. if you don’t like it? fine, not everything is catered to you. (you meaning people who didn’t like it, not you as saeri)

          3 years ago
      • I’m a fan of both BTS and BAP and I found Simon and Martina’s video hysterical.
        Their videos are for entertainment purposes, remember? Don’t take it too seriously. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you are.

        3 years ago
        • I totally agree with u. I love both groups and songs. I mean, it’s not like they tried to insult them.

          3 years ago
        • MG

          I actually laughed about it while watching the video but then instantly felt sorry for the B.A.P members and thought wow that was pretty nasty and mean. So I reacted honestly to both sides.

          3 years ago
      • I agree. Its one thing to joke around, but there’s a difference between being funny and being disrespectful.

        3 years ago
    • I agree with you.
      And it doesn’t feel like they were just poking fun, they were being really agressive with some comments.

      3 years ago
      • Yeah… especially with that quote renaming B.A.P. as B**** A** P****. I’m aware that Simon and Martina are just voicing their opinions, however I think they are starting to confuse voicing opinions with crude commentary. I’m used to their blunt thoughts, but this is one of their moments where I think they went too far. Sometimes I would (internally) cringe at what Simon and Martina do or say that I would know provoke sensitivity. I know that they won’t change their opinions, but still… can’t they learn to sympathize? I don’t know, and I’m not pointing fingers at anyone, but WHOA is Youtube blowing up with the dislikes! Sorry EYK, but there was BARELY ANY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!

        3 years ago
    • Well said my friend! The whole album is awesome! (actually, it’s mini album. when I imagine what a full one might bring…^^)
      Still, “Boy in Luv” isn’t my favourite song either. I would love to see the mv for, let’s say, “Jump”. Sooo hyper, and… Jumpy ;)
      Maybe it’s becouse I watched BangtanTV, but I don’t really mind all those random scenes in the mv… I actually kind of love them ^^ Still, I have to agree with S&M about the thing with abusing the girl. I know well that the boys couldn’t do anything about the plot, and they felt sorry, and so on… I don’t blame them. But I have to agree, that it makes me uncomfortable.
      When I first watched “No more Dream” I just loled aloud at the names. Now I’m used to Rap Monster and aaall, those “cool” titles (well… they still make me chuckle a little^^). So I don’t think it’s such a big deal.

      3 years ago
    • Actually Bang Yongguk has co-written almost every BAP song and has helped compose a lot of them, so it’s not really something new. He also was a producer on the last couple albums. That’s one thing I like so much about both BAP and BTS. Unlike most groups, the members are actually very involved in the creation of the groups’ music.

      3 years ago
      • I totally agree with you. actually ,(just wanted to add something :D ) I don’t know if you listened to Skool Luv Affair, but Tomorrow & Jump were produced by Suga, before their debut. *____* that’s amazing

        3 years ago
        • Yeah I found that out! Tomorrow is my favorite song on the album and Suga is my bias so I was really impressed when I found out that he had made the song pre-debut.

          3 years ago
  7. In that scene where Zelo “kills his girlfriend” I thought it was him going back to the now run down location. It wasn’t the same visit. He is revisiting the location of their date. Unless the girl is on the carousel when it blows up and Im just not seeing her.

    3 years ago
  8. I totally agree with the name Rap Monster being terrible, it was half the reason I could not bring myself to actually look up BTS’s MVs after watching their interviews and why I was so surprised (and relieved) that he is actually a serious(er) rapper and not just a non-singer. But it still is one of the worst stage names anywhere I’ve ever heard, and there are some corkers in the K-Pop industry. Also the bad spelling thing put me off too, I’m pretty sure “skool” went out of slang fashion after Busted finished with it back in what 2002? I suppose they’re pretty young (ridiculously so) so I get it but please, the correlation between bad spelling and hiphop coolness is tenuous at best.

    Having actually seen BTS’ MV and heard their album though, I actually really like their strong hiphop core and style, and as you say it reminds me of the aggression I saw in BAP’s Warrior and Power etc, and I love the cyphers and freestyle stuff. They are very talented, great dances as well. No More Dream is great (loving the double bass) and N.O is OK, what I most appreciate is the consistency of their original style combined with development, a very delicate balance few K-Pop acts have in my opinion maintained. I hope they do stick to their hiphop roots or at least evolve in a natural way because what they’re doing is so credible right now and changing too radically will lose them at least one interested possible fan.

    That said, I absolutely support evolution and experimentation for artists and it’s good for them even if it alienates some fans. You write music for your own satisfaction after all, even if it’s “for” the fans or your family or whatever. That’s why I really loved “1004” as it showed a really interesting development for them whilst still retaining their most core features e.g. particular rap arrangement and vocal allocation. Plus I am originally a pop rock fan so even just that guitar riff made me fall in love with the song. But that’s a difference in tastes so I could see why you might not like it as much. The MV itself was pretty good I thought, perhaps overdramatic, but they interpreted and expressed the song well. It was visually rich and interesting enough so that I watched it about ten times in two days, a lot for me, so much so that I’m now a teeny weeny bit sick of it. But plenty to keep you gripped and I liked that it complimented their other very high quality videos like One Shot and Badman, and it’s much more interesting than say the No Mercy video or even Warrior or Power.

    By the way, I commented on YouTube about how there are so many boybands beginning with B, and another thing I thought was this weird thing of having two names or two different spellings? The only examples I can think of are B2ST/BEAST (I don’t know if they were ever officially referred to as BEAST but I’ve seen it a lot and always thought it was ANOTHER band beginning with B so was very confused, plus B2ST is hard to read and so hard to remember) and Bangtan Boys/BTS? I personally think Bangtan Boys is a little more original and memorable (BTS = Behind the Scenes so I’m not very likely to click on a video with it thinking it’s going to be an interesting MV) but why have two seemingly unrelated names? Isn’t that just bad marketing? I’m not an ARMY so I don’t know if there is some actual meaning, but to be honest it shouldn’t have to be explained, right?

    Sorry for the long comment :)

    3 years ago
  9. Do listen to BTS,s full album pls!! I totally agree that their album title annoys me so much but rapmon’s English is amazing !! I hope you two will like bts bc it’s totally nice when my favorite ppl also like my favorite band too!!(ofc I’m not forcing, just hoping you’ll give them a chance!!) I really love how they take part in composing and producing their songs!!

    3 years ago
  10. I agree with you. It would be really hard for BTS to change drastically. Their album
    has some mind-blowing songs. They practically have 4 rappers and V and Jin’s
    voices are not really made for slow songs. It is as possible as Block B doing aegyo
    MV. Seeing how only P.O, U-kwon and Kyung(being brutally interrupted and hidden
    by Zico the minute he starts) do it. Rapmon kind a really has an awkward name
    but you get used to it. I don’t really understand what’s the fuss about. I
    think there are more wired things in the group like the fact that V is an
    alien, Jin is a Pink Princes and Suga kind a looks like chicken. And that is
    not all. They are soooo embarrassing that you have no choice but to hate them,
    sorry love them :d

    3 years ago
    • Haha I totally agree with what you wrote here :D especially the last sentence! Anyways BTS fighting! A.R.M.Ys will love them for really good music that they make and also the names don’t really matter but their skills. This album is freaking amazing and I really admire their work :)

      3 years ago
  11. I don’t know how you guys did it, but despite ripping my favourite group almost to shreds, I died of laughter. Good one! Again, a really nice balance between funny skits & reviewing a song properly and giving your opinions. You’re on a roll (so is Martina’s hair, apparently. I wish I was as creative as you are with my own! >_<)

    I see where you guys are coming from about B.A.P. but I have to say that personally I really enjoyed 1004 and I think it's a great song (and even better dance, hohoho ;D). I actually like that they change their image up because it shows their versatility and I don't really know what to expect next. That being said, I also have to admit that my favourite was definitely their debut era and there HAVE been some that I didn't particularly enjoy… (*cough* Hurricane *cough*). I think it's mainly because they seem most comfortable in their Warrior/Power concepts, whilst not so much in cuter concepts like Crash. But I also feel like if they had just figured that powerful concepts worked and had ploughed along with that then I would've gotten really bored, really fast. I'd like to see another Warrior-type song from them, but I also like the more mature position they've eased into recently – sort of hit that point in the middle. Jazz definitely suits them, too. You guys should check out "Body & Soul". Whilst on the one hand I love it, on the other I'm sitting there going "Zelo NOOOOOOO! You can't know about these things yet! Don't let them impurify your innocent little braiiiiiiin!"

    I'd also like to propose removing the award from BTS for being unhygenic and pass it on to my cleaner (before you shoot me down, yes, it's very common here to have a cleaner once a week). He blatantly doesn't wash his hands after going to the loo and then he cleans our house, rubs them all over our clean dishes etc. I really want to say something, but I just… can't.

    3 years ago
    • Something else I forgot to mention: I know you guys always complain about one boy group sharing one girl, but can you imagine how awesome it must be to be that girl? I mean, you get to be seduced by multiple good-looking guys in one day, without even having to try! :D

      3 years ago
  12. wow my tweet before almost came true! i also said do a KMM with all 3 of the Bs but only two made it lol. and the poll results are damn close right now…… anyhow…. i love both videos a lot! but….. honestly…… i listened to BTS song a little (just a little) more lol.

    3 years ago
  13. Bwahhaahaha, that humping skit cracked me up! The music matched the dance perfectly. Right after watching it I went to the kitchen and did that dance in front of my roommates but they were totally unimpressed, they’ve been living with me long enough to get used to my weird dances… I mean, I went there to get something to drink, not only to hump the air.
    Meemers looks so snuggly!
    I liked B.A.P’s song more, it’s actually my favorite song by them in a long time. As for BTS, I definitely prefer their previous releases. The song is not bad but I totally didn’t like the message in the video. Also, agreed about Rap Monster’s name. I’m not even a hip hop fan and it gives me jibbershakes.

    3 years ago
  14. i was totally thinking the same thing when they are in the toilet… i mean like who goes out in the toilet without washing their hands after going out the toilet? BTS is!!

    (is my grammar correct?!) shololololololololo…..

    3 years ago
  15. 2ne1 as wallpaper!!! i saw that!!!

    3 years ago
  16. Maybe it’s a sad commentary on kpop these days that there’s not enough material to talk about in one m/v for KMM? There’s not even enough to make fun of……? While I really enjoyed the song and dancing from BAP, the symbolic scenes just interfered with the dancing IMHO. Bored out of my mind by BTS but perhaps that’s because high school is so far away for me and well, it’s sad that not much changes there either.

    I thought that the raunchy thrusting (hah! I almost typed “ranchy thrusting” – LOL!) in the streets was awesome, though, not for amateurs, you don’t want to accidentally punch yourself in the junk ;) Martina’s “magical” scene was way cool too, very well edited as well BTW.

    Last week I REALLY noticed a delay in the blog being available. It seems to be fixed today though (so far). I would click on the link in twitter and get a white screen, and not see links to it on the EYK site but if I searched through youtube, THEN I could see it. Sometimes for days, so if I didn’t comment much last week, that’s why, after 3 days, my comments feel a little stale. It obviously worked for some people because discus digests told me of people posting, only I couldn’t see them (it was not my compy – I am a compy expert). Just FYI.

    3 years ago
    • Well, I think Kpop still has a lot that people can talk about. I just think that in our old age our attention spans are fading, and we’d rather talk about a few videos than just one. Talking about one video for so long…unless it’s a gold mine of ridiculousness, might be a bit much for us now, I think.

      As for the blog delays, we found an error in the database. A really big one. We’ve been trying to fix it. And we think that it might be finally solved. If you still see white pages in the next couple of days, please let us know. It might be a different issue affecting the site, then…

      3 years ago
      • I actually like these multiple groups in a review. I think this one was the best so far. The last one with the girl groups, I liked, but wished you had talked a little bit longer about each one. That’s why I miss the K-crunch Cocktail so much. You did a few videos and plus usually always had an older video in there too.

        Actually, I (and I might be in the minority here) would LOVE if every once in a while you went back to the older videos (like Pre-whenever-you-started-doing-KMMs) and did a mini review or included them in a compilation video. Some of those Videos are A GOLD MINE of things! You can maybe even do it like the K-indie segments and have people do request videos. Idk. Just a thought to maybe spice things up for you. ^^

        3 years ago
      • I honestly don’t think that it’s your attention spans (get off my lawn!), maybe it’s just that the ridiculousness is repeating and it’s hard to come up with new ways to look at it. Before, I used to say “wow! this is really dancey!” or “look at the cool outfits and moves!” or “that was a nice fun story to go with the music!” or “I could totally kick someone’s head in to the beat of this music, and look, they just did that in the video – neat!” or what not. Now…… I feel like anything hard or fun in kpop has turned into easy-listening coffee shop crying in my milk. Not that there aren’t some great songs and m/vs out there, because there are, and not because I don’t enjoy a nice light tune for a Sunday drive, because I do. It just tends to be more new groups that get the budgets to do anything cool and they tend to blow their wad up front and sploodge too many diverse things at once for me to really process it fast enough to enjoy. I feel like the formula is not working for me any more, it’s TOO repetitive and it has failed to surprise me in a long while.

        KMM is really whatever you want to make it, but part of its (current) appeal is that it is NOT what everyone else is already doing to death: reaction videos (bleh!), my top 10 favourite whatevers (meh!), what I hate about this (ZOMG noes!). So, please for the love of Spudgy, don’t be generic, that’s all I ask ^_^v What about doing one kpop and one k-indie every week in the KMM to contrast and compare? Or trade off back and forth each week to keep it fresh? If KMM really isn’t your most popular video of the set, what could you do to improve it to make it so? I’m sure you’ll come up with something ;)

        3 years ago
      • Actually, I really like when you are reviewing several videos with a similar topic at the time. Last week I thought most of the points you made about girl groups were very interesting (and made me discover a couple new songs!), and I think this week was well balanced between funny skits and jokes and serious talk about the videos. Happy nasty here :D

        As for the glitch, I could load your last WTF without any issue today, which wasn’t the case since Saturday, so it does look like it’s improved!

        3 years ago
        • Now that you mention it, the ability to compare groups within the same KMM *is* nice, good point. Personally I’m not sure that I would like KMM to turn into “S&M’s Top 10 Countdown” (in Kasey Kasem’s voice) *every* week tho’……

          3 years ago
  17. I KNOW!!! *huddles in a ball*

    3 years ago
  18. But don’t worry, we really like BTS! We just poke fun of the video. :D

    3 years ago
  19. Yes!!!!! Finally someone thinks the same about Rap Monster! That name is so much a NO. And I hate the bad grammar in their album too, that doesn’t make them look cool AT ALL.

    3 years ago
  20. Yay for normal human hours!

    3 years ago
    • Semi-normal. It’s 1:21 here. But that’s better than last year, when we’d be editing till 3AM :D

      3 years ago
      • Oh well it was only 4pm here so perfect time for me! I have exams this week so this video was a nice surprise (I forgot it was Monday -_-) and break from revision :)
        I hope you guys continue posting videos forever and ever and ever even if you turn old and wrinkly, not that that will happen since you guys have magical powers from drinking unicorn blood…
        I know your secret to eternal youth guys *stares crazily*
        ===> goes back to revising :(

        3 years ago
  21. XD omg i love how suju did the pelvic thrust some few years back when they released the U mv. Now BAP takes it to a whole new level: EPIC RAUNCHY NASTY PELVIC THRUSTING!!! WARRIOR STYLE BABYZ!!!!!!

    gee i wonder what’s next? ;D

    3 years ago
  22. I love that I don’t even really care about the videos one way or another for KMM half the time – I just like the commentary. Excuse me while I go use the ladies’ room because I laughed so hard I have to pee now. And yes, I will be washing my hands, thanks.

    3 years ago
  23. I always cringe at the bathroom scene in BTS’ video as well haha. I love BTOB but I agree the video was a bit boring, there are other songs on that mini album that should have been their title song in my opinion :

    3 years ago
    • The bathroom scene cracked me up! Especially after they showed the 1 guy cleaning it like a fiend. S&M must be mind readers,lol, some of the comments about certain bits were exactly what I thought. ;~} Purell anyone?

      3 years ago
    • I started watching BTOB’s video and then I just… Had to close it. Sorry BTOB fans, it’s really not their fault – it was just a really awkwardly set up video :/

      3 years ago
    • That… That was not as bad as I thought it would be XD I just can’t see Block B doing an aegyo concept, yo; the thought of them doing such would asplode the universe!!

      3 years ago
      • I think Tell Them and Bbabbabba are as cutesy as it’s going to get with Block B. Though Zico doing Marshmallow…

        3 years ago
      • Indeedy. I got a kick out of it but yeah, definitely not full on aegyo. Cute, tho. ;)

        Trying to imagine Zico dancing with a teddy bear or something, truly horrific. /shudder

        3 years ago
  24. Martina, Martina, Loki does indeed cry in the first Thor movie.
    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls9t6cK8Sn1qjo1x3.gif
    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mao9bvTG6h1r54fm7.gif

    But it is more of anger yell crying, not sappy, sap tears.

    3 years ago
    • That is my. FAVORITE. SCENE. from the first Thor movie.

      3 years ago
    • Those are MAN TEARS! D:<

      3 years ago
    • That was more anger with shining wet eyes. Not single serving drippy solo tears. WHICH I have no problem with when they’re real, but when it happens a bunch of time, like in Korean dramas, I don’t like it. Plus, Loki. Hot shining anger tears.

      3 years ago
      • Lol K-drama tears aka Alice in Wonderland flooding a room syndrome.

        Loki, hot and shining. That’s all I read XD

        3 years ago
  25. i agree with Martina about B.A.P …and it also makes me sad that they didn’t get any awards when they debuted but got lots now…with a more ‘pop’ song….

    And…love this KMM…and is there anyway to forward ur message to Zico?? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

    3 years ago
    • idk although I liked Warrior/No mercy type of songs they are not my favorite BAP songs…they were their promotional songs but their albums had far better songs imo

      3 years ago
    • I agree, though hip hop & rap were on the low end of my fave music styles, B.A.P. taught me that when it’s good, it’s worth dealing with the less than awesome stuff. You appreciate the good stuff all the more. I do understand Martina’s point about the changing styles in KPop. I was just watching an older YT playlist I had put together and realized how much I like earlier songs of some groups, and later stuff from others. Like Shinee, when I first heard Hello and RingDingDong I thought not bad. Lucifer and Sherlock I loved! Dream Girl, after hearing it a few times, it’s ok, but made me miss earlier stuff. I’m sure they’ll eventually put out more songs that blow me away. Same goes with VIXX. Off the top off my head, I think BigBang is one of the only groups I can always find something I really like everytime. (Actual instrument playing groups like FTIsland, CNBlue, LunaFly, and Royal Pirates are a totally different subject)

      3 years ago
    • But Bad man and One shot? This is just one title song so I wouldn’t overthink it as much.

      3 years ago
      • not arguing…but u have to admit that Warrior was still more ‘in ur face’…ㅋㅋㅋ

        3 years ago
        • I liked the energy and passion of Warrior, and the crisp dance moves along with the Zelo-puppet-master-death-acting just amazed me. I really found it easy to believe the panic on Zelo’s face and his ‘death’ and there was so much confidence that it really stood out to me.
          I feel like for whatever reason (maybe because the song genre didn’t demand it), that passion was lost somewhere.

          3 years ago
  26. Thanks for such a fun Kpop Music Monday. I haven’t seen either of the music videos and wasn’t planning on watching them; but, after the awards you gave them I am now inclined on watching them.

    3 years ago
  27. This was hilarious. I loved MV + Song to bits.. but well taste’s different for a reason, right? ^^

    Anyways.. B.A.P’s 1004 is in my opinion one of the best songs released at the moment~ ♥

    3 years ago
  28. my dream come true to makes these 3 group in 1 KMM today…princess Jin-kun in that screen shot… like3…

    tq for these S&M…

    3 years ago
  29. is meemers actually as big as spudgy now?!?!?!?!?!?!

    3 years ago
  30. I almost snorted coffee out of my nose as usual. When will I learn no drinks during KMM??

    Both songs, really good. Both videos, good if you don’t really pay attention confusing as hell….and they both seemed like they were half thought out videos. I imagine that they were discussed as broad ideas but they never really finalized the details. However, both SONGS are in my top 20 for the year so far.

    And Rap Monster….I can’t….I just…NO. I’m from VA (same area as Timbaland etc), sooo….NO son, just NO. I call him R.M. if I have to name him at all.

    3 years ago
  31. I wouldn’t really call it fair that the band that you fell in love with is gone forever, remember one shot and bad man? Wasn’t that the hip hop style? It was talking about how society needs change and (one shot) you only have one shot on making it and if you screw it up you’ll friends will end up dying (no pressure). So I wouldn’t really call it fair since B.A.P is a versitile group. Also, if you listen to their albums, you’ll see it loads with hip hop and “b.a.p-style” songs. So I wouldn’t really call it fair since the title songs aren’t everything. Meh.

    3 years ago
    • If “Badman” was their hiphop style, I don’t know whether to laugh hysterically or cry. Trust me, if you’re a BAP fan don’t remind anyone of Badman…

      3 years ago
      • Why shouldn’t I talk about Badman? I’m a huge fan of B.A.P and I loved the song. It was their mix, since their a versetile group.

        3 years ago
        • I like many of BAP’s songs, but I personally find Badman to be… well, awful. It had promise, but the complete 180 on sound was poorly integrated and Bang Yong Guk’s odd “Yah… YAH”s genuinely sounded ridiculous to me.
          This was a song that had the potential to be far, far better than it was. Luckily, I really enjoyed 1004. I’ll always prefer Warrior but if they continue to release at the standard of 1004 I’ll still enjoy their work.

          3 years ago
        • I’ll desagree with you about Badman… I’m a huge fan of B.A.P since 2012 and Badman is nowadays the first music I show to non kpop fans and they like it right away… Badman is too different from kpop we all know, but B.A.P was never trying to be like “normal” kpop so whatever people say about their music they’ll still do what they want to and try different things…

          And, I don’t understand Martina’s statements about B.A.P songs … I only can assume that she doesn’t listen to their other musics besides their promotion song because B.A.P always mixed different styles and aways sang ballads or “sad songs” like 1004 or Rain Sound… In “Warrior” “Power” and “No Mercy” that she metion as their “best times” there are “Secret Love”, “It’s all lies and” “What the heart tells to do”…

          I really don’t think that someone will like all their music, and no one is suppose to do it, but as they are reviewing the song at least do not say things if you do not know their work well…

          That’s all..and sorry for my poor english.

          3 years ago
  32. We were pissing ourselves laughing while watching this….. and yes Rap Monster is the worst name….

    3 years ago
  33. Spudgy looks like he’s wearing a ruff in the bloopers XD that fluffy little puppy (〓 ̄(∵エ∵) ̄〓) Also that raunchy thrusting, man…… twas naaaaaaaaaaaaasty

    3 years ago
  34. This week’s KMM is hilarious! But I kinda miss Fangurrila here though. It’s her beloved oppas! Where is she?? XD

    p/s: Meemers lurking in the background at 3:38. Hahahah!

    3 years ago
    • Oh my gosh touché! I hadn’t even thought of Fangurilla but now that you mention it I realise how extremely hilarious that would’ve been! xD

      3 years ago
  35. I’m not going to say that I don’t miss Warrior and that I find all the “symbolic” scenes cool and awesome and true but I totally think that the song is freaking awesome! Also even though I’m no BTS fan, I really like the song.

    3 years ago
  36. Soooo with you on the Rap Monster thing. I can’t get into the group because of that monstrosity. Haha so clever

    3 years ago
  37. ahahah alot of funny moments in this MM^^I love it.

    3 years ago
  38. i’m disappointed gain’s truth or dare didnt win!!! i guess fxxk you was enough ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

    3 years ago
  39. First? Hooray!!!!!

    3 years ago
    • Seems that way!

      3 years ago
      • I’m always unsure because sometimes someone posts a second or two before me and then my comment is actually the second one but it says I”m the first. Awkward. Almost as awkward as “Rap Monster”. :P

        3 years ago
        • AH! I see what you did there! xD Cleverrrrr

          3 years ago