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Welcome back to a new week of videos! We’re starting off this week with our Kpop Music Monday on BTS and BAP. Sorry BtoB fans: that video just wasn’t our cup of tea. It’s a shame, though, because if we included them, we could have talked about how you can rearrange their letters to spell Batost, which is close enough to Batoost in our hearts.

But on to more awards for things we didn’t talk about in our Music Monday!

And the award for the worst English goes to: BTS

We’re not talking about the song here. I’m talking about the written English. Boy in Luv? Skool Luv Affair? Spelling like that doesn’t make you look cool. It makes you look like a dummy. Cut that out already.

And the award for the least interesting symbolism goes to: BAP

Sorry guise. BAP’s done these “I try to be deep with symbolism while I cry all the time” videos before with Rain Sound. I’m married and in a happy relationship. I don’t want to pull meaning out of symbols for sad relationships, because even if you looked at Bang Yong Gook digging around a rib cage and think “OH that represents a heart” it doesn’t add anything else to the meaning of the video, since it’s already about being relationship sad. ZZzzzZZ. You can say the same thing for Illuminati symbolism, which people can dig for if they want, but that kind of analysis bores me, as does the symbolism for videos like this.

Artsy symbolism in Kpop videos isn’t really that original or interesting to me. You might have to find someone else to tell you that this is a masterpiece. You won’t find high praise for that here. TOP’s “Doom Dada” is an example of something more meaningful.

And the award for the most cringeworthy name goes to: Rap Monster

This is the worst name I’ve heard in all of kpop. I’m sorry. It’s even worst than Teen Top’s “Emotional Vocal.” See, I grew up listening to hip hop seriously. To hear someone in a Kpop boy band call themselves Rap Monster makes me feel so much embarrassment that I can’t even say the name out loud. Anyone who is into hip hop as much as I am, if I said to them “hey there’s a member of a pop band who calls himself Rap Monster” they would also feel embarrassed. Sorry guise. Maybe the perception of Hip Hop is different here than where I’m from, but, oh man it burns me with awkwardness. Rap Monster? I don’t care if you’re good at rapping or not: DON’T CALL YOURSELF RAP MONSTER. Are you friends with Hiphopopotamus and Rhymenoceros as well? Is Lyrical Wizard and Mic Checka both a part of your rap crew as well? Hey, is your crew called “Rhyme Time” or “Master Rhyme Blasters”? OH GAWD STAHP PLZ STAHP.

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We got em. Surprisingly, not that many from when we were out humping things, because we were totally professional and on point at that time. We did have, however, people walk by and stop to look at us humping furiously, and then give us thumbs up. They approved. Hopefully, you did, too:

 

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  1. So I’m not gonna go and cry by saying wahh I’m gonna unsubscribe to you now because your opinion greatly differs from mine…..but even then guys show some respect what you guys said was a little too much. The fact that you even made fun of his name was a little overboard. Believe it or not a lot of idols read and watch your stuff…so yeah. And the name of their songs they kinda can’t always control that. Btw BTS is not pop, they’re hip hop. That trash you hear nowadays on American radio is not.

  2. I think it is really ironic how you think Bts deserves the ‘worst English award’ just because of the way they wrote their songs’ names but then a little further down in ‘the most cringeworthy name’ you write: ‘Sorry guise.’ Or ‘OH GAWD STAHP PLZ STAHP.’
    Who looks like a dummy now?

  3. I respect you guys and i have high expectations to you. But what you did make me lost all the respect to you. I thought this website is open minded and you embraced the kpop perspective but i realize how narrowyou are. BTS and B.A.P achieved more than you. Yes, everybody has a right to voice out their opinion but i don’t think that this article is included as an opinion. You have very much offended an ARMY here. Sorry but i lost my respect to EYK.

  4. Coming across this is such a torture. U have NO RIGHTS, NO RIGHTS AT ALL to call them a dummy. Why? Cuz are you any better than them? Are u more popular than them or at a high position? NO not at all so it dosent give you the right to be so rude and posting this.

  5. Is it funny that I watched this after block b’s HER? (Not that HER is actually cute concept) But Zico probably got the wrong message.

  6. I was actually a big fan of EYK. You guys always make me laugh when I watch your videos, but now seriously? Talking sh** about rap monster? Calling them a pop group? I may not be as into hip hop as you but I am definitely more into BTS and know them better than you – 100% sure.
    Listen to ALL of their songs and truthfully tell me none of that is hip hop.
    And by the way, you pronounced Zelo’s name wrong…

  7. Yes, I’m sure that you wouldn’t do anything if somebody calls your favorite boy band a bunch of pussies. And plus, did you think only B.A.P. fans would vote?? A different fan could’ve voted also, not just B.A.P. fans

    If it’s boring, how else are you sopposed to express pain besides crying?? Unless your a professional actor (which B.A.P. is not, their a boy band) would do something else to express pain.

  8. B.A.P. tries a lot of different type of genres in music, 1004 was shown to be a sad song so they decided to cry, so what? Are they professional actors? No, their idols / singers. Crying is the only way to show that they are in pain. Plus if you hate on a Music Video, don’t blame the artists, blame the Director who even made the Music Video. If you see the behind the scenes, it shows the idol / band just does what the director or scriptwriters tell them to do. Plus, it’s not like BTS is the only boy band who has English issues, and you never know that they could’ve just wanted to make the spelling look cool.

  9. Haha! I laughed so much because of this KMM. Don’t listen to them haters, S&M. You guys are hilariously honest, especially Martina and her BAP acronym diss. I couldn’t agree more.

    Both MV’s bored me. BTS lost me with their song title, but 1004 was worth a listen.

  10. I laughed a LOT at this KMM! I dunno, I usually always do, and I find it a bit confusing why there is so many who is upset about this video. I have to say! Both when BTS were at the urinal AND B.A.Ps humping dance moment I KNEW you guise were gonna get nastyyy about it. It feels like I really know you <3
    Now I just need to figure out how to magically get cats out of my pocket. Best way ever t get new friends!

  11. So even though I’m late in watching this I feel like I just watched one of the funniest videos in ages and then to scroll down and see all the ridiculous negative comments really killed my buzz. Majorly disappointing.

    Simon and Martina this video was freaking hilarious. So damn hilarious I can’t even pick a favourite moment! I say screw everybody and just do whatever the hell makes you two happy because you are both incredible people who put so much into trying to make other people happy and they can be seriously ungrateful sometimes.

    Wait I think I picked it… I think it was Martina’s magic skit. SHADOODLE!

  12. I’ve been semi-following all this blow-up. I’m not going to weigh in on it or anything tho. I do have maybe a suggestion for you to think over.

    A while ago, you changed the selection of KMMs to be any video in the top 3. It seems like there have been videos in the top 3 that you don’t particularly want to do (which is fine). Why not open it even further to top 5 or even better top 10? Also, display the top 10 in random order so no one knows (or cares) who’s in 1st place. There should be at least 1 video out of 10 that you like and would like to review. It will also alleviate some of the tension of “XXXXX was in 1st place for # weeks and you didn’t review them” (which isn’t what this blow-up is about) and also make it more of a recommendation of what to review than a popularity contest.

    Although, personally, I would rather you only do regular KMMs every once in a while and do more of the K-crunch cocktail format like you did with the girl groups KMM. Only maybe limit to 3 so you can talk about each video a little more. For me, the usual format of KMMs have gotten a little stale and they just don’t have the same ‘umpf’ that they used to (plus normally the skits leave me as ‘meh’). I usually watch more for the little snippets of what you liked or disliked and why.

    One last thing, I agree with some of the people here that the swearing is becoming more prominent. Trust me, I can swear so hard and inventively that I could make a truck-driver blush, but there is a time and place for swearing. You hardly ever swore in your older videos but now it seems like in every video there are at least 2 or more bleeps. I don’t know, it just seems to me like instead of it being funny little slips it’s become ‘in-your-face’ and you have lost your respect for your work and for your audience. You like to swear and if you use it in your normal day-to-day talk, that’s fine, but making these videos is basically your job and (for me) your job is not the place to incorporate swearing in as a regular thing (little slips are as I said earlier, funny little slips). Maybe it’s my age starting to catch up to me and I’m sounding like a fuddy-duddy (which is odd because my bias group is kind of known as the swearing-dol but usually while they are working only little slips come out). I don’t know…I’m on the fence about the whole swearing thing and feeling slightly hypocritical because I do swear but then again I try not to swear while at work…

  13. i watch this just know n… S&M…rap monster knows u feeling n he know u dont like his name…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKeXCmmpk28 kinda funny…

  14. i know the vid isnt enough to explain both mv in details… i know S&M waiting for biggest 2 battle cb coming up next/this week n BAP & BTS already on the top 3 for a few weeks n for sure next week both song will start to fell apart…if both song isnt be reviewed, the fan of both group will mad at them… so cool down BABY n ARMY….

  15. s&M already said the weird thing that jimin n junkook do in the toilet… :)

  16. i thought bitch ass pussys was hilarious.

  17. Wow! You would think that S&M had ragged on the Pope, Mother Teresa, and the tooth fairy for all the violent reaction! Calm down people.

  18. I use to really like eyk, but they really are not putting effort into their videos anymore. most of their recent videos have been half assed…i mean Martina doesn’t even dress for the videos anymore, she just looks like a slob. that and no matter who they talk about they always have an attitude as of late. its getting old really fast. i can tell their heart isnt there anymore, and i wish they would admit it instead of just spewing rants everywhere. i honestly thought they where above that.

    • I think that you will have to go back and look at more footage if you think that Martina “isn’t making an effort” with her look. She has never dressed “to the nines” for the videos. That wall of t-shirts didn’t come from nowhere. She’s just evolved her style into something slightly more laid back and more nerdy chic this last year and since her hair is longer, she can put it up more easily and intricately now. Frankly, I would expect her to have major challenges just finding clothes in Korea that fit her. Also, it’s winter, and the studio is cold (c’mon – they need foot warmers!) so I would also dress in many layers as well.

      I certainly think that you’re grasping at an opportunity to insult her since you have other issues with this KMM that have made you unhappy – not cool!

      • I deleted that whole thread because it was leading nowhere but quarreling for quarreling sake. Also since I have been accused of doing nothing but adding to arguments I will stop doing that and since apparently I am not allowed to have or share opinions myself.

        Cheers, Natz

      • Let me say bluntly, i really could care less about what was said in this video. i haven’t for a while as (like i said before) the videos from them have far below standard lately. my statement about Martina has nothing to do with that, which i also said before. (did you read the whole conversation before jumping in?) also most of those t-shirts came from simon not martina. as he’s the one with the collection. i really dont feel like repeating myself further, mainly because i certainly think that you’re grasping at an opportunity to defend Martina because you cant take constructive criticism against her. much like most kpop fans. -not cool!

        • Hahaha! You’re so funny! I actually read the entire ridiculously long conversation, just because I don’t agree with you, doesn’t make me misinformed. Actually if you go check out the “welcome EYK crew” video, you’ll see that half of those shirts are Martina’s. Don’t worry, I’m not hardcore – I just remember because I was (pleasantly) surprised at the time. I am respectfully disagreeing with your assessment (my opinion is just as valid as yours), more than “defending” Martina, it’s not a crime. It’s also hard for me to enjoy the rest of the comments here when you are disrespectful to any of the users, especially me, not just the EYK crew so I felt the need to say something regarding your rudeness. By the way, you can change your username (Alana Key to “-___-” so appropriate!) but people will still see you for what you are and the mods can track your usernames, so be careful.

          Cyber_3 – Sorry Natz, I couldn’t resist……….trolololololooooooooo!! ;)

  19. There really is no point in saying what I thought about this review because it’s just going to be a repetition of what is already said. What I want to say is that I noticed that most of your reviews has been very negative, and I don’t know if it’s because you really hate the song/mv and reviewing them just put you in a terrible mood hence why you guys have been so harsh and aggressive with you KMMs lately. If that is the case, and you truly do not like review the songs that is voted to the top the chart, why not just get rid of the voting and you guys just choose a song to review, whether it is talking about how amazing it was, or how much you did not like it because of particular reasons. I doubt your fans would mind.

  20. people we get it, you did not like the review. There is simply no need to write an essay about how butthurt you are. It’s overkill, and frankly no one is going to read it anyway. Get over it and move on with your day.

    • Being butthurt is writing something like “omg! why would you say mean things about oppa! I hate you now!”
      Most of the comments I have seen, short and long alike, have pointed out what they found distasteful in the video. Most of what I have read was constructive criticism. And seeing as it is S&M’s viewers telling them what they were unhappy
      with, S&M should at least acknowledge these thoughts and try to improve their videos.

      For me, I found this video to be lacklustre and not very funny. Unless S&M change this, I’m going to be less and less inclined to check out their vids. It is important for fans to let S&M know how they react so that S&M can alter their vids accordingly and thus not lose viewers (who are their source of income).

      • god, I would like to be done with this already. I thought it was over the last reply. I don’t know why your stating your opinion to me on what you think of this video. And yes I said butthurt because all I saw was the sexism in it, how dare you say those bad things about B.A.P etc. And I don’t know how saying they were cruel and mean constructive. Look up from the last comment, it pretty much sums up all of what most of the comments have been saying sooo, I would like to move on with my day.

    • I’ve read them. And if I do remember correctly there was a time when people disliked one of the KMM videos and Simon and Martina complained that people were not clear in their reasons. They said it was okay if we didn’t like something, we just had to explain so they could understand better. I wished I remembered the video. Anyway, if people don’t like it they want to make sure that Simon and Martina understand why. I guarantee you that even if you don’t read them, they will.

      • Well I am glad you have the time to read them. It is fine to explain, but there is no reason to have an essay ok. you can literally sum up your dislikes in a 5 sentence paragraph, not 30.

        • Honestly, I’m not bothered by it. Those who want to read will read; others will skip. However, since I am sick and in bed (and have WAY too much time on my hands) just for fun I’m going to try to summarize the MAJORITY (not everything) of the pro and con arguments I have seen so far. Maybe people will just say, “I agree with #1, #4 and #6″ and move on to a better life.
          Anti/con
          1. Bitch Ass Pussies? – What where you thinking S&M?
          2. You guys are getting increasingly meaner, vulgar, boring, uncreative, soulless
          3. KMMs are not what they used to be. It was better during the B.S. time period. (BS=before studio)
          4. You complain about sexist references but you also make sexist comments. How dare you be two-faced!
          5. My oppas from (insert name of idol group) did not deserve this.
          6. Why not review BTOB? Rude!
          Pro
          7. But it was funny…
          8. It was a joke! Get it? Get a sense of humor! Grow up!
          9. This is their program and they can do whatever they want.
          10. It is their opinion. Didn’t you know that opinions are sacred? Except yours, of course.
          11. Simon and Martina have not changed, they are still their awesome selves.
          12. Everyone complaining is a whiny, delusional, immature, crazy, butthurt fangirl. Even if they are not.
          Fever is getting to me. Must go and not come back. Too much wasted time on this “controversy.”

        • Lols

          As someone who has had to pretty much read all the comments I can put my stamp of agreement on this ‘short list’.

          I can commiserate on the being sick and having nothing better to do.

          Cheers, Natz

        • ….
          Well I read them and sometimes Simon and Martina do as well.

          And that person commenting above was correct. Simon and Martina have no problem allowing people to leave long comments.

          If they don’t have a problem with it, and us mods don’t have a problem, then why should you be bothered by it? Just skip over the long comments.

        • Sorry the ‘bitching’ is getting to you. It can get overwhelming, but it is the Internet. Pretty much 50% or more of all comments are ‘bitching’ because people are people.

          What I usually do when I don’t want to see the ‘bitching’, is that I just don’t read it. Alas, it is my job to read the comments on EYK and so I just deal with it. However, I avoid other places like the plague.

          Cheers, Natz

  21. Just because a rookie group composes, writes and produces most their songs doesn’t mean it is great. Also, they were only reviewing “skool luv affair” (gosh it does not feel great to spell that out >_<), not the whole album. Perhaps if they waited, they could have put out a better song? (like bap). I liked this review, but some people don't because they do not count it as a 'review'. The thing is, it is. Let's look at it from this view: Is it EYK's fault that the top 3 videos lacked a concept with a powerful meaning? Maybe Nasties need to step up their game a bit and vote for review worthy videos?

    They mentioned that there isn't any realistic symbolic meaning to it (in the symbolic form of knocking out the character who tries their best to find symbolism in the non-symbolic videos). The guys even abused the girl and then gave her a flower saying he loves her. They did touch on that but how much farther can they go with this? In the early days maybe they could have squeezed something more out, but the kpop videos are getting ridiculously repetitive and worn out (I'm talking about the videos that keep getting the top spot- there are a lot of other great kpop videos out their however).

    Boy, I am really feeling EYK's frustration with disclaimers. It's like they need to put in bold print

    THE SYMBOLISM IN HERE FREAKIN SUX DONT EVEN TRY TO GO THERR.

    I think you fail to see that they did review it. They just added their touch of humor to their message (which is the main reason I like them so much). Look for the meaning in the jokes and skits. Like the hip thrusting skit: great dance, but for the wrong music. What other professional youtubers can talk about kpop in this way?

    I don't know if you're familiar with 'colbert report', but it is an american tv late night show. The host, a political humorist, talks about the world news but his sarcasm and humor add a personal touch to the show. (C.R. has won multiple awards so they is doing something right) just watching 5 minutes and you'll understand.

    I wanted to write this because the number of ups on your comment right now is 430, and dislike is zero (even though i clicked down, it wouldn't show my number, and i think it is not counting others). I hope the EYK crew can read this and see that it is just a number. But on the upside, on YT the likes are 4K and dislikes are 1K.

    Maybe the fans are upset because they really like their groups and to see that the video they voted for turned out to be a very thin concept video. VIDEO might I add, not the music, but the VIDAYO!! and I personally really did like this kpop music monday. I like how EYK is bold sometimes in their jokes, but i guess not everyone does. Of course EYK meant no disrespect to any group, they are just making light of what kpop takes so seriously. (Let's not pretend like we don't poke fun at their names either…. B.A.P = best absolute perfect? how about bunnies are puffy or umm the other thing i shouldn't spell out lol)

    I wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings, this is just my opinion. It's good to get both negative and positive feedback, but i think you're review was too negative (but if I think it did help them). It just wasn't as bad as you made it out to be. If anything i blame the videos voted in the top spot (although I really did like this KMM). But I thought some people just misinterpreted.

    Anyways , let's look forward to next week!

  22. OK this video make me feel uncomfortable. especially when they talk about B.A.P….can we just let them try new things?? I´m baby..and I respect their opinions but..they call them B*@ch A@@ Pussies thats not funny u____u

  23. Yeah, that part where they were dragging the girl was not cool. I totally thought gang rape was about to happen O.o

  24. The beginning of B.A.P. is creepily/strangely similar to the beginning of Metallica’s “One”. Or am I the only one thinking this?

  25. So much hating :-/ I actually liked this video, Thanks to EYK I watched this MVs and I liked them as well, but I laughed while watching this review… And now I feel that I should go to hell for not cursing Simon and Martina. Yeah, they were not nice, but should they just say how awesome they are? I mean, how boring it would be just watching them fangirling -_- I also think that music mondays have changed, but cmon,.. They did lot of reviews which were even… more disrespectful (like Hyuna’s Bubble Pop) and it was fun… -_-

    • I liked it too. I actually like BAP’s style this time around and eyk words didn’t bother me. Yes, it would of probably been better if they had said more positive things but let’s get real most kpop fans just fangirl or fanboy over their idols and don’t actually care for the meaning or the symbolism of the song. I can tell that from all the video reactions I’ve seen. Ppl just make comments about how good they look and nothing about the song or video for the most part.

  26. Hey guise! I enjoyed this video a lot… I thought it was super funny and made me laugh a lot. :)

  27. Oh wow graffiti in the background. I don’t know why but I like seeing graffiti in different countries. I guess it shows the unpolished version of places that are usually on tourist magazines. That comment has nothing to do with the content of the video lol. For the record, the video was funny, as usual. Actually when I read the title of the bts song, I thought they would go down bap route and release a ballad/cutesy-wootsey love song but I was pleasantly surprised. Plus the 왜 내 맘을 흐드는 건데 part has been stuck in my head all day.

  28. “Never cross the streams” Hilarious, and super appropriate. RIP Harold Ramis.

  29. Watching the video I really wasn’t put off by anything that they said. I was actually surprised at how many people got so upset about this. I thought the review was hilarious, even as a huge B.A.P. fan. I would agree that they could have spoken more about the actual songs (because they both rock!) and how the choreography is amazing in both. But these are music VIDEO reviews, they seem to look at them like I would (and as most of us would) – as and outsider. As big of a fan as I am of K-Pop, I still consider myself an outsider. Since I’ve never been actually immersed in Korean culture, nor do I speak Korean or even understand it. Therefore, impressions are HUGE in music videos, since they provide visual context to songs I would normally not understand. This is why BTS’s video and the treatment of the girl left such a huge negative impression on me. Love the song, LOVE the choreo, but the “plot”? Ugh. I’m glad they mentioned the aggression in the BTS video and how it is not okay, regardless of the intentions or meaning behind the lyrics or anything like that. Its upsetting to see how many people keep defending BTS on that aspect. Same with the BAP video. I love the song and the choreo but the video was definitely lacking.

    I feel the majority of hate Simon and Martina are receiving right now are from the huge BAP and BTS fandoms and the fans that can’t seem to take anything slightly negative or that is said jokingly about “their boys” with a grain of salt. I also want to add that I did think that the BAP acronym was pushing a bit too far. That was the only thing in the video that took me by surprise.

  30. I don’t see this “they’re getting tired of Kpop”-thing that everyone keep referring to. They have been giving tips about songs they love and even said that they quite liked BAP’s song (even though it’s not as good as they though their debut year were) all of the time, even this year. Hell, Simon has been “dirty sexy”-ing since Rain came back. What they did critizize in this KMM was the blatant non-artisitic bullshittery that many music video writers/directors fall back on when they are talentless or try to play on clichés to make a product sell. What I see is an decreasing tolerance for weak music videos. So, let’s all try to differentiate between the songs and the MVs when we spew hate here in the comments, m’kay?

  31. This video was really off putting.

  32. Vote Up if you want Simon and Martina do a review on the GOOD STUFF in all three videos!

    I’m sure there are parts which have impressed them and I want to know how they REALLY feel about them. I mean come on, from the ‘DOEGOPA GO OPPA!”in BOY IN LUV’s opening to PENIEL’S vocals in Beep Beep (I almost cried) to Jong Up’s amazing dance with Zelo in 1004, what’s there NOT to love? :)

  33. I love when you review more than one video at a time. xD This was great!! Thanks~

  34. This is a thing that I read whenever I am in a situation where people have lost perspective.

    ‘Why I never bawl out a waitress’

    Harry Golden, the journalist and amateur philosopher, wrote this in his 1958 book Only in America.

    “I have a rule against registering complaints in a restaurant; because I know that there are at least four billion suns in the Milky Way — which is only one galaxy. Many of these suns are thousands of times larger than our own, and vast millions of them have whole planetary systems, including literally billions of satellites, and all of this revolves at the rate of about a million miles an hour, like a huge oval pinwheel. Our own sun and its planets, which includes the earth, are on the edge of this wheel. This is only our own small corner of the universe, so why do not these billions of revolving and rotating suns collide? The answer is, the place is so unbelievably vast that if we reduced the suns and the planets in correct mathematical proportions with relation to the distances between them, each sun would be a speck of dust, two, three and four thousand miles away from its nearest neighbor. And, mind you, this is only the Milky Way — our own small corner — our own galaxy. How many galaxies are there? Billions of galaxies spaced out at about one million light-years apart (one light-year is about six trillion miles). Within the ring of our largest telescopes there are at least one hundred million separate galaxies such as our own Milky Way, and that is not all, by any means. The scientists have found that the further you go out in space with the telescopes the thicker the galaxies become, and there are billions of billions as yet uncovered to the scientist’s camera and the astrophysicist’s calculations.

    When you think of all this, it’s silly to worry whether the waitress brought you string beans instead of limas.”

    While I fully expect my post to fall to the bottom of this teapot, every now and again it doesn’t hurt to try and get people to put down the torches and the pitchforks and to take the time to look at the sky.

    • So because we are miniscule almost non existing we should have no convictions or wills to fight for them?

      • Hmm, I don’t know that I saw the comment as that dismissive.

        A lot of people have been outright rude and repulsive back at Simon and Martina (maybe not here but on other formats where the video is posted) and I think the comment is commenting that in the long run, reacting to the point of verbal violence is just unnecessary and pointless.

        I agree with a lot of the points that people have brought out, however, and definitely feel like S&M need to take note of what their fans are saying.

        • A lot more people have come out just saying we thought that was just uncool and uncalled for. Then the ones that have been out right rude and repulsive. And if you are going to say rude and repulsive things you have expect them back. It goes both ways.

        • Oh, don’t worry, I agree that their comments in this KMM were quite rude and repulsive.
          But I don’t think it’s necessary to respond in kind.
          Yelling back usually makes people ignore the comments or delegate such commentators as “stupid butthurt kpop fans” but if we respond sensibly and calmly, then more than likely, it’s easier for S&M to take that criticism.

  35. So didn’t even finish watching but had to write this. Simon and Martina are people. They aren’t contractually obligated to like any kpop group, any music videos, or anything you guys like just because you go hard for it ( going hard=being really into an idea, or artist to the point where you would ride of into battle for them). This website is for them; its about their experiences, their opinions, etc. This is not a place for “constructive criticism” for your favorite artist; do you really think the companies who produce these artists are looking on YouTube for ideas on how to make these artists better?

    The fact is this is the internet. It’s a place where people can post their opinions and thoughts and feelings. Its not based on facts. So reprimanding someone on the internet is like poking them on Facebook; its pointless. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their opinions. Does everyone need to know everyone’s opinion, no, they really don’t. But what you guys fail to realize is that you come to this site, you watch theirs videos, honestly under some delusion that they are never going to say something you have a problem with. Its unrealistic. This is life, not everyone is nice all the time. Grow up.

    And stop and ask yourself before you post these thought provoking responses that no one really reads, is this video going to haunt me today? Will it affect me in school or at work? Will it cause me physical harm or destroy me mental? If the answer is no, take the l (take the loss). Beacuse you’re just wasting time and taking away from your real life. For example while typing this my nephew almost dropped my sister’s new iPhone in water. If I wasn’t typing, I would have avoided the nar heart attack I almost had.

    So in taking my own advice, I’m simply going to say that I really do appreciate S&M (chuckle, wink wink) for their videos. They make a county that my family and I were very nervous about seem fun and exciting. They lessen my aniexty and are truly awesome people. Hop off of them (too dirty to explain). And remember before you get offended, its just the internet; its meant to be fun. In the words of Kayne “How you gonna be mad on vacation?”

  36. Lol all the butthurt fangirls. I say Simon should bring out Fangurilla next week to do the whole KMM for revenge. Torture their eardrums and let them see what an biased opinion looks like…although I’m sure that will be lost to many of them..

    • So basically, Simon and Martina can say horrible things and it’s a “joke” but if people disagree, suddenly, they are “haters” and “butthurt”? It really makes me sad that so many girls are defending their use of the word “pussy” as an insult. Your actual, physical female bodies are being belittled as soft and weak and vulnerable but it’s ok cause it’s a joke, right? To call a guy a “pussy” for crying is like telling a girl to get back in the kitchen – sexist and belittling.

    • This isn’t even about being butthurt. I don’t care whether or not they liked a song; they’re entitled to their own opinions just as I am entitled to mine. But they were being downright rude and disrespectful. Calling B.A.P “bitch ass pussies” because the music video concept had them crying in it is so offensive, especially coming from people who in the very video emphasized on how they’re strong women’s rights supporters. Crying is a 100% valid emotion, why should anybody be called a “pussy” for it? Even if it was just a joke they made, doesn’t mean it was appropriate to do so. They’re in the public eye, what they say will have ramifications and they should be more careful.

  37. … I’m not even angry about that video. I’m mostly just sad. S&M, you managed to :

    – disrespect the group (Bi*** A** Pus****, seriously?). It’s not a nice thing to call anyone. You seemed very pleased while saying this <(eeing the reaction in the video, which I know was scripted: but still) but let me tell you: this. is. not. okay. I'm disappointed.

    – put everyone into a little boxes called stereotypes. This part hurts me most, as I am aware of the hard work both B.A.P and BTS put into their albums. BTS produces, writes and composes the songs. In B.A.P's case it's mostly Bang Yongguk, but everyone tries to contribute to new albums. And you basically just told us "they are supposed to do THIS and THIS otherwise I'll not like their music". And dammmmmm you have every right to say such thing… just as I'm free to say how this broke my heart. I always perceived you as people who at least try to understand the music you're talking about. Now I guess: most of kpop isn't ambitious and you don't have to think much to get the meaning. Well, too bad you chose two groups that actually try to make a difference. Pay attention:
    BANG YONGGUK, RAPMON (or Namjoon, if you prefer his real name), SUGA AND J-HOPE were all a part of the korean underground scene. They told us on numerous ocasions that they DREAM of making a difference in the world and bringing some meaning to kpop music. You just ignored all their work… I just hope you actually listened to the albums before shooting this vid.

    – Ignore almost every good thing about the MV's, which leaves as with just crude comments.
    – Upset and disappoint me as a fan.

    Yes. you had many valid points. Yes, some things were funny. Martina, I think you looked really pretty.
    But I still hate this vid and I hope this will not become a regular thing.

    ANDDD as a last thing: I understand that comment about Rap Monster and his name (I too think it's really stupid) BUT actually. It's not just a name he picked for himself. It happened naturally, because of one of his predebiut songs.

  38. putting aside all the mixed feelings about this video… simon u are a key and peele fan >o<

    NOICE!

  39. I have never seen this many people so sensitive. I agree with the eatyourkimchi crew. BAP is on this slide downhill, atleast to me. And I thought there jokes were funny. Everyone has heard the term pussy and all that before, I don’t know why you’re so offended now. Just breath people

    • How can you say a group is “on this slide downhill” because you didn’t like a song that so many people liked it, and all this song brought to them was more growth as a group and more success?

      • Wow, that was an old post. But atleast I get a different conversation. What I meant was a slide downhill is just the fact their songs are getting more mellow (?) I don’t mind trying different things, but it seems they are going for a more mainstream route. They have not done any kind of hardcore songs in awhile, which I was excited about. And I’m a little worried that since they had more success with this, they will choose to stay with this type of genre. I think I did state that it was just my opinion, and maybe it was harsher than intended but, this is just what I meant. Note* I have never actually listened to their full albums, so I don’t now about that. All I know are there title songs.

  40. Guys, I’ve been a long-time fan and have always enjoyed your reviews. However, I want to echo what others have been saying: Please don’t use the words “bitch ass pussies” to put down men for crying. That phase is incredibly misogynistic and using it in the context that you did (really, using it in almost any context) contributes to the pervasive idea that to be feminine is to be weak, and to be a man and act in a way that is feminine is to be weak. Even if you didn’t mean to convey that message in your video, that’s the message that phrase conveys. What’s even worse is that you used it shortly before talking about the abusive treatment of the girl in the BTS video! I understand making jokes, but please rethink using such sexist, harmful language in the future.

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