Welcome back to a new week of videos! We’re starting off this week with our Kpop Music Monday on BTS and BAP. Sorry BtoB fans: that video just wasn’t our cup of tea. It’s a shame, though, because if we included them, we could have talked about how you can rearrange their letters to spell Batost, which is close enough to Batoost in our hearts.

But on to more awards for things we didn’t talk about in our Music Monday!

And the award for the worst English goes to: BTS

We’re not talking about the song here. I’m talking about the written English. Boy in Luv? Skool Luv Affair? Spelling like that doesn’t make you look cool. It makes you look like a dummy. Cut that out already.

And the award for the least interesting symbolism goes to: BAP

Sorry guise. BAP’s done these “I try to be deep with symbolism while I cry all the time” videos before with Rain Sound. I’m married and in a happy relationship. I don’t want to pull meaning out of symbols for sad relationships, because even if you looked at Bang Yong Gook digging around a rib cage and think “OH that represents a heart” it doesn’t add anything else to the meaning of the video, since it’s already about being relationship sad. ZZzzzZZ. You can say the same thing for Illuminati symbolism, which people can dig for if they want, but that kind of analysis bores me, as does the symbolism for videos like this.

Artsy symbolism in Kpop videos isn’t really that original or interesting to me. You might have to find someone else to tell you that this is a masterpiece. You won’t find high praise for that here. TOP’s “Doom Dada” is an example of something more meaningful.

And the award for the most cringeworthy name goes to: Rap Monster

This is the worst name I’ve heard in all of kpop. I’m sorry. It’s even worst than Teen Top’s “Emotional Vocal.” See, I grew up listening to hip hop seriously. To hear someone in a Kpop boy band call themselves Rap Monster makes me feel so much embarrassment that I can’t even say the name out loud. Anyone who is into hip hop as much as I am, if I said to them “hey there’s a member of a pop band who calls himself Rap Monster” they would also feel embarrassed. Sorry guise. Maybe the perception of Hip Hop is different here than where I’m from, but, oh man it burns me with awkwardness. Rap Monster? I don’t care if you’re good at rapping or not: DON’T CALL YOURSELF RAP MONSTER. Are you friends with Hiphopopotamus and Rhymenoceros as well? Is Lyrical Wizard and Mic Checka both a part of your rap crew as well? Hey, is your crew called “Rhyme Time” or “Master Rhyme Blasters”? OH GAWD STAHP PLZ STAHP.


We got em. Surprisingly, not that many from when we were out humping things, because we were totally professional and on point at that time. We did have, however, people walk by and stop to look at us humping furiously, and then give us thumbs up. They approved. Hopefully, you did, too:


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  1. Elaine1234

    Coming across this is such a torture. U have NO RIGHTS, NO RIGHTS AT ALL to call them a dummy. Why? Cuz are you any better than them? Are u more popular than them or at a high position? NO not at all so it dosent give you the right to be so rude and posting this.

  2. shadihrr

    Is it funny that I watched this after block b’s HER? (Not that HER is actually cute concept) But Zico probably got the wrong message.

  3. Justkpopthinqs

    I was actually a big fan of EYK. You guys always make me laugh when I watch your videos, but now seriously? Talking sh** about rap monster? Calling them a pop group? I may not be as into hip hop as you but I am definitely more into BTS and know them better than you – 100% sure.
    Listen to ALL of their songs and truthfully tell me none of that is hip hop.
    And by the way, you pronounced Zelo’s name wrong…

  4. I unsubscribed. This was just rude.

  5. I don’t know what to think about this review. Well everyone is entitled to their opinion …. But BTS are definitely not a pop group. The fact that BTS were Underground Rappers before and became idols, doesn’t change the fact that they’re still Rap Artists. They Write and Produce their own music and brought back the Old School sound. BTS has songs speaking out against the wrong doings of society. They have the freedom to express themselves through music. They worked together with Korean Hip-hop artists. Pdogg, Supreme Boi, Slow Rabbit worked together with BTS on their album. You really think those RAP artists make pop music? Yeah i don’t think so. 0_o BTS has rap Intro’s on their album. Pop music doesn’t have that. ~ Also BTS made a freestyle diss song called “Cypher 2″ against a underground rapper. Since when does a Pop group make diss songs? … Exactly! :D .. and i also grew up with old school hip-hop. BTS are even better then nowadays so called American rappers. I can’t call that hip-hop anymore. So that’s why i think BTS deserves all the credits and props.

    • COTAnerd

      BTS definitely has music strongly influenced by hiphop, but they are undoubtedly pop. They are a pop idol group with hiphop influence. Some of their non title tracks are pretty pure in hiphop (Cypher, like you said), but their release tracks will always be watered down hiphop to make them accessible to the majority. There’s nothing wrong with them being that, but it’s not really accurate to call them hiphop.

      • Xoxox389angel

        You may not be able to call them hip hip because it’s watered down? But you definitely can’t call them pop either. I think BRS is a new kind of hip hop for the majority, yeah for people that don’t want to hear stupid nonsense and hear something relatable or meaningful.

  6. omgzitstaemin

    Yeah! BAP needs to stop crying! It should be the fangirls job to cry! The FEELS!!!!
    I noticed the personal hygiene issues in Boy In Luv, and the written English issues (O! R U L8 2?, Skool Luv Affair) and was bothered. Just, no.
    J-Hope said his ABCs and Hakuna Matata do! Ahh, so awesome! Lyrics wise, BTS’ was my favorite, video wise, BAP’s was my favorite, although they need to stop crying. Like, seriously. SERIOUSLY. I love the drunken sailor type of songs, like BlockB’s Nillili Mambo, so BTS definitely won my heart with this. They’re not winning the poll though, definitely not.

    • KPOPLuverXD

      B.A.P. tries a lot of different type of genres in music, 1004 was shown to be a sad song so they decided to cry, so what? Are they professional actors? No, their idols / singers. Crying is the only way to show that they are in pain. Plus if you hate on a Music Video, don’t blame the artists, blame the Director who even made the Music Video. If you see the behind the scenes, it shows the idol / band just does what the director or scriptwriters tell them to do. Plus, it’s not like BTS is the only boy band who has English issues, and you never know that they could’ve just wanted to make the spelling look cool.

  7. FancyJude

    Haha! I laughed so much because of this KMM. Don’t listen to them haters, S&M. You guys are hilariously honest, especially Martina and her BAP acronym diss. I couldn’t agree more.

    Both MV’s bored me. BTS lost me with their song title, but 1004 was worth a listen.

  8. sparrow-chan

    coming late, but for argument’s sake

    those teary boys all over the kpop videos….*”You left and I can’t take it”, “you died and my hand can’t reach you anymore”,
    “I m crying and the lady over there is ready to replace my all-natural tears”* and when you’ve been reviewing them for some years while sustaining your cynical self, I m surprised how those two hadn’t said anything already

  9. MidnightEkaki

    Hey guys I think people are being way too sensitive about your treatment. I don’t think you were that bad, you just expressed your own personal opinion, you made some valid points too.
    HOWEVER there are a couple of things I want to say. I’m a Nasty so I don’t like writing negative things about you guys cause I love you but I’m being critical like you were on the groups.

    For B.A.P, I agree that crying in MVs is overdone and an uncreative way of showing sadness, but then again, they don’t need to make videos to be unique from everyone else and suit your standards and tastes. B.A.P wanted to express a concept that was sad, and the storyline would require tears to show their pain, because as artists this is what song they wanted to do. Its not fair to say oh it sucks because I don’t feel like watching sad things I want happy fun things. Its not about you, its about them because they’re the artists, I think that should be respected. You don’t have to enjoy it but saying it was stupid isn’t fair either.

    Also, ridiculous about BTOB. It wasn’t boring, it was fun and funny. It doesn’t need to be your favourite video, but not even worth talking about? That’s too much. Also Peniel probably watches your videos… I’m sure your comment on something they worked hard at wouldn’t make his day any better especially after what he’s going through. I’m not saying thats your business, I’m just pointing out that the artists can watch your videos, so maybe don’t be as harsh on it. They’ll appreciate criticism but only if its constructive.

    Thats enough ranting, I like what you said about BTS. They said already that their hip hop style is not a phase like other groups, they actually care a lot for their style and image. I’m a big ARMY (BTS fan) and I understand them well, and I know that they really want to keep the powerful image. I’m not going to say they won’t ever do a concept with crying, I don’t know about that, but it won’t be as emotional as B.A.Ps for sure.
    Their names like Luv in Skool, I agree, they are stupid, but then again Bangtan are pretty dumb so it suits them (I mean this playfully haha they’re not very serious, they remind me of Block B) Jimin said he didn’t wash his hands because he forgot to LOL so that explains that.
    Also I thought Rap Monsters name was dumb at first, even Rap Monster didn’t like it that much, but it was from a predebut/mixtape song of his when he called himself a monster that raps. He’s called a monster because he always breaks things and such. Its actually a really sad song, I think he might have some confidence issues :(

    Anyway, thats all I have to say ^^ I hope you read this…

    • KPOPLuverXD

      About the crying in 1004, it’s not like their professional actors, their simply idols who are creating a plot in their MV’s. I get that they were just being honest, but S&M sorta sounds like they expect them to be professionals or something. Like Martina said, they did Warrior, No Mercy, Power, One Shot, and Badman… what do you expect from a band that just did hardcore songs to a sudden smooth jazz / ballad song?? D:

  10. Ticiana de Melo

    I want Martina’s T-shirt! *-*

  11. Naomi Censored

    Okay, a few things here:

    #1: So, the symbolism is dumb because you are in a happy relationship and therefore sad relationships are boring now? Come on, man, that’s rather silly. I’ve never been in an abusive relationship, but I can still appreciate Ga-In’s song Fxxk You and the way it represents that situation. I’ve never been a professional entertainer, but I can imagine the positives and negatives of the experience by listening to G-Dragon’s work. This is because humans have the ability to imagine and empathize with situations they’ve never been in. Isn’t that what art is all about? Using your imagination to draw people into a new world? I don’t know, I’m not an english major, maybe there are rules for this sort of thing. But I’ve heard you guys speak pretty positively about symbolism in sad relationship songs before; why is this the one that you just can’t stomach?

    #2: I rather enjoyed this format of discussing a couple of groups in one episode, as I think it’s a good way to avoid some of the fandoms whining about why you didn’t review their bias. Highlighting the good and the bad of each in this way was a good idea, I think. (Though not really involving the third band was a bit dumb… why include it at all if you have nothing to say, good or bad?) I think this would be an interesting way to get to review more groups: you’ve done a couple of these as replacements to KMMs, and I’m enjoying them. Talking about the top 3 vids, or picking three thematically similar vids from the top ten, is something I’d enjoy seeing more of.

    So, those are my feelings. :)

  12. I think that people, especially the fans of BAP, are overrating a bit too much. You did VOTE for them to review the video, so did you expect them to like it? Probably not. They’re not expected to like every single MV that come out okay. I think that people are being too harsh on Martina when she said that BAP are bunch of pussies. I don’t think she mean’t that “boys shouldn’t cry kinda thing”, but that in EVERY single Kpop ballad the members are crying. Which gets’ boring after a while.

    • KPOPLuverXD

      Yes, I’m sure that you wouldn’t do anything if somebody calls your favorite boy band a bunch of pussies. And plus, did you think only B.A.P. fans would vote?? A different fan could’ve voted also, not just B.A.P. fans

      If it’s boring, how else are you sopposed to express pain besides crying?? Unless your a professional actor (which B.A.P. is not, their a boy band) would do something else to express pain.

  13. I laughed a LOT at this KMM! I dunno, I usually always do, and I find it a bit confusing why there is so many who is upset about this video. I have to say! Both when BTS were at the urinal AND B.A.Ps humping dance moment I KNEW you guise were gonna get nastyyy about it. It feels like I really know you <3
    Now I just need to figure out how to magically get cats out of my pocket. Best way ever t get new friends!

  14. Bubalooy

    So even though I’m late in watching this I feel like I just watched one of the funniest videos in ages and then to scroll down and see all the ridiculous negative comments really killed my buzz. Majorly disappointing.

    Simon and Martina this video was freaking hilarious. So damn hilarious I can’t even pick a favourite moment! I say screw everybody and just do whatever the hell makes you two happy because you are both incredible people who put so much into trying to make other people happy and they can be seriously ungrateful sometimes.

    Wait I think I picked it… I think it was Martina’s magic skit. SHADOODLE!

  15. I love this video anyway. But B***h A** P***s is still rude for a young-age-fandom like BABYz. By the way, if you guys have time, read some analysis of 1004. All actions in this MV have there own meaning. They not just punching wall and punching the mirror and digging and crying nonsense. And the dance too. But sooo agree with the comment about the girl in the MV when she doesn’t change her dress. Here’s the analysis : http://kittyinabarrel.tumblr.com/post/75770386267/b-a-p-1004-angel-analysis

  16. Today’s the first time I listened to the songs with the MVs. I actually liked both songs without having to watch the MVs. I spent way too much time reading people’s arguments in the comments sections. S&M were harsh than normal. I liked Meemers and Soozee popping out of nowhere. Lots of things said. Everyone needs a cupcake, a hug or more sleep. Hugs to all especially the mod.

  17. I like you S&M but I do agree with other comments that this went a little overboard. The double standards present in the video are especially infuriating.

  18. I can completely relate to the whole falling in love with a group’s sound and then they slowly start to explore a new sounds that aren’t to your taste. I’ve felt that a few times. Even if I love a group to bits I’m not going to listen and praise a song I don’t like just because the group I like is singing it. There are some eras in my bias groups that I like to pretend never existed.
    And although it seems I’ll be in the minority with this statement…I really enjoyed this KMM. Yes, I can understand the points that others have made. I guess it’s just because I’ve watched you for so long I understand your humor and points of view. I think that sometimes people take KMMs too seriously. They are your opinions presented in over the top ways whether others like them or not, you still do you. And I kind of liked the two MVs in one KMM going head to head.

    The one thing that I’ve missed from a few past KMMs were the lack of dance skits. And boy oh boy was I not disappointed this time. I’ve missed the “manly sweeping, manly sweeping” “Build a fire, start a fire” “make a sandwich”. I love and adore the dance move comments because most of the time you hit it right on the head of the nail and say what others have been thinking.
    Another point that people have been talking about are the lyrics of the songs and the other songs on the albums. But what they don’t realize or they may not have been watching you guys long enough is that you rarely talk about the actual Korean Lyrics. One of the major exceptions that i can remember was for Teen Top’s ‘No More Perfume’, and you talk about lyrics more so when it’s a soloist or band. I’ve seen you talk vaguely about Korean lyrics but you have always taken a “foreigner’s perspective” about Kpop sprinkling little insights you have from living in Korea as foreigners. I hope that you guys keep doing you and don’t change too much just because others can’t take jokes being made about their favorite groups. Because just like Martina hasn’t really been feeling some of B.A.P’s songs lately I don’t want you guys to take away what made me fall in love with EYK in the first place.
    And for all the other people reading this…EYK’s KMM is just one segment of 5 or more other segments on EYK’s site. Simon & Martina are not all knowing and they can’t afford to buy every Kpop album that comes out nor do they have the time to look up every single song that a group they are “reviewing” has done. They can’t looked up the backgrounds on every member…Hell they can’t remember every members’ name. So just because YOU as a FAN of a group know the ins and outs of the meaning or production of a song doesn’t mean the rest of us do. It’s great when fans of the group come into the comment section and talk about the meaning behind the song and how it was made. But what isn’t great is when fans reprimand someone for not knowing something they haven’t learned yet.

    sorry for the long comment but there was just so much that i wanted to cover. And if you’ve gotten through this whole comment and also have an opinion or point you want to make please share. Opinions can change as long as there is active and constructive conversations.

  19. kelsey park

    these comments are really constructive and awesome. I just want to point out that i think the most problematic part in this video is the bitch ass pussies part, because that’s not just “mean” or “blunt.” That’s socially problematic as it tells people that it’s wrong for guys to cry in public and that crying is a sign of mental or physical weakness. that’s not only completely untrue but also super harmful to young audiences who might watch eyk. and martina took it even further in the bloopers, it seems, with the whole “loki doesn’t cry, he only cries in secret” thing. i hope martina realizes how prejudiced and brainwashed she sounds.

  20. My complaint about the video isn’t because I’m a huge fan of any of these groups. It’s just that lately the videos have seemed so negative in general. Simon and Martina don’t seem to enjoy doing this anymore and it comes across loud and clear on camera. It’s fine not to like a group or an MV but both of them just seem fed up with the whole thing (which I can understand and is why I have no desire to be internet “famous”) The increase in cursing too just seems like it reflects some sort of bitterness in general. A lot of viewers are picking up on it. Maybe that’s why there’s more complaints. It doesn’t seem like it’s fun anymore.

  21. Blossom Leah

    BTS (well Rap Mon, JHope, Suga) just had been congratulated by Run DMC’s DMC (If you don’t really listen Hip Hop, he’s like a pioneer of the rap culture) for the cypher in Skool Luv Affair. Never judge a book by its cover ! :)

  22. First of all, I’m actually really happy (perhaps more than I should be) over how calmly people are discussing this. c:
    1. Simon and Martina probably really really really respect kpop groups in general so I don’t think that they were just critiquing them with the intent of disrespecting them.

    2. The whole B**** A** P****** thing wasn’t to me (TO MEEEEE), that offensive. I don’t see how the fans would feel disrespected since Simon and Martina weren’t even saying “YOU SHOULD HATE BAP BECAUSE WE HATE THEM”. And I’m sure they weren’t being serious about it. BAP would probably not be that offended anyway, it was clearly meant to be a joke. I’ve seen horrible horrible things said to Simon and Martina in the comments on YouTube and they were being completely serious. So why haven’t they crossed the line? How does that differ other than the fact that they are not handsome dancing and singing boys. Mind you, this is coming from a hard core BAP fan.

    Sure, I agree there was not enough reviewing in this video but thats really all I found the problem with. Its impossible for EYK to release consistently awesome videos and its unfair to expect that from them when they already work so hard on them.


  23. 밤비 남반

    Honestly, we can’t really blame anyone. Although I laughed at some point of the video, it’s still kinda disturbing (some over the top joke or maybe I just don’t catch the humor). EYK and S&M doesn’t really have to know about the background of BTS to begin with but a properly research on the song lyrics would be nice.

    For BAP’s song, I feel that the crying and acting is really cringing for the first time, and the rest was just mehhhh. I liked the song and dance though, like what M has said the starting of the whole video and song is really really nice.

    But I realized recently EYK don’t review KMM like before. If you watched generation 1 (their old house when they just came to korea), it was short but amazing, short and sweet. Like how I would love it – because us fans watched the video beforehand and watching KMM reviews make us excited on what they think about it and if they would agree on the awesome parts and stat out some funny and cringe scenes that we didn’t realized until now (because we were fangirl/fanboying that we missed out detals)

    KMM to me really just enforcing the original video that we already liked and having someone to agree with it is just greatttttt. Not only that, some criticism and awkward/cringe whatever was pointed out to us, and being non-delu fans, we might agree and shrug it off. EYK also always introduce me more songs and music which I really like.

    This week KMM seemed too negative in my opinion. I hope the next video will be better~ ^^

    But I wish everyone don’t start bashing each other, to EYK and the rest of the Boy bands.

    Everyone make mistakes :)

    P.S : I hope S&M make a little video about this, although it isn’t really that far to an extent, I want to know about your feedback and opinion again :)

  24. Maranda Gregory

    I was really excited for this KMM seeing as it was B.A.P and when I thought they were reviewing BTOB, B.A.P and BTS I was even more excited, but I was really let down.

    I didn’t really enjoy BTOB’s mv either, given that, I did love the song I thought it was catchy, fun and I get it stuck in my head. I know if I were a die hard fan of BTOBs I would have gotten a little upset. You guys shouldn’t have included BTOB if you were only going to mention how boring you thought they were and not do an actual review of them. I hope not a lot of BTOB fans were offended or let down by this. (I can relate because Young Saeng’s Art of Seduction was on top for like 5 weeks #1 and never reviewed)
    After that I thought the video would be more of an ACTUAL BTS vs B.A.P where maybe it was plot vs plot or dance vs dance ,seeing as the groups are similar, and an in depth video, but one of the category’s being “unhygienic” was a shock and also, a let down.

    My next point is not a surprise. The “B***h A** pussies” part. Now I will admit, I’m a giant fan of B.A.P, but also a fan of EYK and when M said that I cringed. It was just really uncalled for I guess, I mean I understand them wanting to joke about it but I don’t think they should have done it in that way. Obviously there’s no way to joke about Himchans crying without no one taking offense but I think this just wasn’t the way to go about it. I mean I’ve read a bunch of comments and half of them are saying it’s rude to B.A.P and the other is saying it’s sexist. Either way, there had to have been some other joke that could have been used.
    As for the dancing, personally I liked BTS other dances better but this one was still really good, and I’m glad that S&M did talk about it, but of course, M mentioned the hip thrusting, and two other moves for B.A.P and the next minute of the video is awkward cringe worthy hip thrusting. I was REALLY impressed with B.A.Ps dance, specially Jongup’s and Zelo’s part and I thought for sure M would mention them because I knew she liked those kind of dances, but no.
    One last thing that I was disappointed with this video, was the symbolism. I mean, in Jaejoong’s Mine review almost half the video was ABOUT the symbolism, and I thought B.A.Ps had a lot of symbolism to offer! but it barley mentioned or explained in the video and I actually really wanted to know M take on it. I feel like the video was just bashing on two groups more than reviewing.

    Now the blog post. There was still no explanation as to why you thought BTOB was boring or even a small review for it.
    I found it funny though, how BTS English was criticized when you guys has also purposely spelled things wrong in the next two paragraphs… To be fair though, at least BTS bad English was words that everyone used when they were in school before.
    Now I was happy that symbolism was mentioned in the blog post only to be disappointed AGAIN after reading it. There was no mention on the possible plot, no mention on symbols, no explanation. Just a bunch of “I didn’t like this”
    For Rap Monster, I think his name is funny too, he finds his name funny as well which is why he uses it. poking a little fun at his name is okay, but I don’t think a whole paragraph was needed.

    All in all, I don’t want to say I hated this EYK, but I came close. Like I said earlier, this was more basing on two groups than reviewing, I mean I used to watch KMM so I could learn new bands and almost always good and bad things were mentioned, but I feel like this video is the complete opposite. I’m not trying to say your opinions are wrong or anything, just I believe- and many others- that this video should have been done differently. A lot of people were offended (some by stupid stuff, some by actual things) by this video and me being a fan of all three groups and EYK I’m really conflicted about how I feel.

  25. Wow! So much hate here. I have to say that Simon and Martina are free do say whatever they say because it is their opinion about something, no one is obligated to watch this as well, so I don’t see why so much hate towards a couple who are trying to entertain their audience. So I will give my thanks to Eat Your Kimchi for all the funny stuff they do and to always keep your head up and no matter what haters say, you keep on going forward! <3

  26. Totally agree. I think EYK bashed these boy groups too much for KMM this week. The symbolism in 1004 is actually a LOT deeper than Simon thought it was and there is a lot more than just the rib cage. I read somewhere on tumblr that explains the boys’ relationship to certain items but i totally forgot where to find it because i figured S&M would have figured this out already..sorry guise but i didn’t like it…. and Martina, please don’t expect every group to stick to one concept. They may have changed this one song or one look but they’re still the same group as ever. And BTOB shouldn’t have been left out…i thought EYK reviews a group’s title song, album, dance and mv. Yes the mv wasn’t amazing but you could of reviewed the song itself at least…. and BTS’s title song isn’t the greatest but thats the concept they’re going for..( sorry this is just the defense from an ARMY). I would of mentioned more and maybe i made some a few mistakes here and there but thats only because i only read the written review and not the video because the comments down here…i agree with the comments that mention their dislike of KMM this week because when the review started…well i kinda got defense….sorry EYK. Still love ya! <3

  27. Not sure why everyone is getting so worked up, but I decided to comment here because I did not like what I saw on the YT comments section. From what I saw, you guys stated your opinion and it is completely okay! I agree with what Martina said too; k-pop groups or any band could change their sound or image, but that does not mean I always have to enjoy everything they put out! I thought the thrusting bit was hilarious too, could not stop smiling! Really enjoyed this video guys!!

  28. Stephanie Henry

    Wow, so many negative comments. I’m not really sure why everyone is taking everything so personally. S&M have always poked fun at k-pop and they go with a bit more adult-themed jokes and everyone spazzes out. I feel that if people can not tolerate hearing other people’s opinions about the groups that you love, then maybe you should not be watching or reading things where people give their honest opinions. Not everyone is going to think or feel the same way as you. It’s an opinion about the music videos and how they see them. There’s always going to be good reviews, but hey guess what, there are also bad reviews. Let’s all act like adults, or at the very least pretend to be adults for a moment and just acknowledge that everyone is entitled to their own point of view and opinions of everything; just because you do not agree with those opinions does not mean that you need to go into internet tirades.

  29. unicornsgalaxy

    I’ve been semi-following all this blow-up. I’m not going to weigh in on it or anything tho. I do have maybe a suggestion for you to think over.

    A while ago, you changed the selection of KMMs to be any video in the top 3. It seems like there have been videos in the top 3 that you don’t particularly want to do (which is fine). Why not open it even further to top 5 or even better top 10? Also, display the top 10 in random order so no one knows (or cares) who’s in 1st place. There should be at least 1 video out of 10 that you like and would like to review. It will also alleviate some of the tension of “XXXXX was in 1st place for # weeks and you didn’t review them” (which isn’t what this blow-up is about) and also make it more of a recommendation of what to review than a popularity contest.

    Although, personally, I would rather you only do regular KMMs every once in a while and do more of the K-crunch cocktail format like you did with the girl groups KMM. Only maybe limit to 3 so you can talk about each video a little more. For me, the usual format of KMMs have gotten a little stale and they just don’t have the same ‘umpf’ that they used to (plus normally the skits leave me as ‘meh’). I usually watch more for the little snippets of what you liked or disliked and why.

    One last thing, I agree with some of the people here that the swearing is becoming more prominent. Trust me, I can swear so hard and inventively that I could make a truck-driver blush, but there is a time and place for swearing. You hardly ever swore in your older videos but now it seems like in every video there are at least 2 or more bleeps. I don’t know, it just seems to me like instead of it being funny little slips it’s become ‘in-your-face’ and you have lost your respect for your work and for your audience. You like to swear and if you use it in your normal day-to-day talk, that’s fine, but making these videos is basically your job and (for me) your job is not the place to incorporate swearing in as a regular thing (little slips are as I said earlier, funny little slips). Maybe it’s my age starting to catch up to me and I’m sounding like a fuddy-duddy (which is odd because my bias group is kind of known as the swearing-dol but usually while they are working only little slips come out). I don’t know…I’m on the fence about the whole swearing thing and feeling slightly hypocritical because I do swear but then again I try not to swear while at work…

  30. i think the bitch ass pussies comment was about the fact that the music video was so dramatic and their tears and emotions looked so fake especially since the lyrics also seem fake and generic(unless its just this translation http://www.kpoplyrics.net/bap-1004-angel-lyrics-english-romanized.html) not the fact that were emotional cause they weren’t they just “tried” to be and i even liked the song and the video for the most part. unfortunately pulling out the sexist and racist card is awfully easy on the internet.

  31. yanagiba yusuke22
    yanagiba yusuke22

    i watch this just know n… S&M…rap monster knows u feeling n he know u dont like his name…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKeXCmmpk28 kinda funny…

  32. yanagiba yusuke22
    yanagiba yusuke22

    i know the vid isnt enough to explain both mv in details… i know S&M waiting for biggest 2 battle cb coming up next/this week n BAP & BTS already on the top 3 for a few weeks n for sure next week both song will start to fell apart…if both song isnt be reviewed, the fan of both group will mad at them… so cool down BABY n ARMY….

  33. I actually really like their review. I thought it was funny and they always keep it real. Especially about BTS. All these annoying “fans” need to get a life.

  34. i thought bitch ass pussys was hilarious.

  35. scuttlepants

    I happen to love Rap Monster! I love the name (yeah, at first I was like “What the hell?”, but now I just roll with it. It’s great! It’s got spunk!) and he’s got amazing charisma! He’s talented, which helps, and he isn’t yodelling “Yah, YAH!” (*cough* Bang Yong Guk Badman *cough*).

    • there was no no need to degrade Yongguk to make your point why could you say somthing about Rap Monster and leave Yongguk out of it this is problem most fans have they can’t seem to make a positive point about x without insulting y

  36. Honestly I wish the review was longer because it’s for 2 groups and I like both songs but whatever. At least there’s a review!
    I’m surprised that there was no comment on some things in BTS’s video.
    1) J-Hope (according to the lyrics) said “ABCDEFG Hakuna Matata”.
    2) Jin was hiding in a locker before he chased after the girl, suddenly stopped, and turned his head in the direction of said girl
    3) That little close-up scene of Rap Monster lifting up his finger with a sort of smirk on his face
    4) Suga sitting on a basketball hoop.
    I didn’t notice anything super weird about V, Jimin, or Jungkook in the vid..

    P.S. Meemers as cute as ever, especially in the bloopers vid!!

  37. Liam Sullivan

    Everyone just needs to calm their farm. People are allowed their personal opinions, it’s their review, if they want to ‘bash them’ they have every right too. They also have every right to ignore your fighting and criticism, but they don’t, they learn from constructive criticism like anyone else. Yelling and making them feel hated is not how you get their attention and let them know ‘hey, I think this could have been handled differently’ or simply say ‘This isn’t my opinion, but I respect yours and can see the validity’. Everyone is different and if someone has a different opinion to your own, that doesn’t give you the right to ‘hate’ someone.

  38. disqus_BdOLC1pcNm

    Simon and Martina, old time NASTY here. Been with you guys since you were teachers and didn’t even do KMM and actually replied to comments on YT. Honestly, I’m really disappointed. I understand that this is now your job but it feels like a mistake. A lot of your jokes no longer seem organic or fun – just insulting and harsh. It feels forced. And you don’t seem particularly happy with KPOP anymore but you’re stuck cause it’s your cash cow. I suggest that you take away the right to vote for the KPOP group and just review whoever you want because it’ll do both you two and the fandoms a favor.

    • Good point on taking away the voting charts. That might solve some issues for them. I’d rather hear a positive happy fun and genuine review then one that seems forced upon them. Because we are starting to see the backlash of a unhappy Simon and Martina. They are almost showing contempt not only towards the artists but their fans. Unless they just want to become shock jocks. Hey It’s a formula that’s worked financially for a lot of people. But you do realize taking away the votes will lead to more problems. Alot of fans will be upset over that. Still think in the end S&M will be happier and we will get a better quality EYKMM.

  39. Wow! You would think that S&M had ragged on the Pope, Mother Teresa, and the tooth fairy for all the violent reaction! Calm down people.

  40. I use to really like eyk, but they really are not putting effort into their videos anymore. most of their recent videos have been half assed…i mean Martina doesn’t even dress for the videos anymore, she just looks like a slob. that and no matter who they talk about they always have an attitude as of late. its getting old really fast. i can tell their heart isnt there anymore, and i wish they would admit it instead of just spewing rants everywhere. i honestly thought they where above that.

    • Cyber_3

      I think that you will have to go back and look at more footage if you think that Martina “isn’t making an effort” with her look. She has never dressed “to the nines” for the videos. That wall of t-shirts didn’t come from nowhere. She’s just evolved her style into something slightly more laid back and more nerdy chic this last year and since her hair is longer, she can put it up more easily and intricately now. Frankly, I would expect her to have major challenges just finding clothes in Korea that fit her. Also, it’s winter, and the studio is cold (c’mon – they need foot warmers!) so I would also dress in many layers as well.

      I certainly think that you’re grasping at an opportunity to insult her since you have other issues with this KMM that have made you unhappy – not cool!

      • I deleted that whole thread because it was leading nowhere but quarreling for quarreling sake. Also since I have been accused of doing nothing but adding to arguments I will stop doing that and since apparently I am not allowed to have or share opinions myself.

        Cheers, Natz

      • Let me say bluntly, i really could care less about what was said in this video. i haven’t for a while as (like i said before) the videos from them have far below standard lately. my statement about Martina has nothing to do with that, which i also said before. (did you read the whole conversation before jumping in?) also most of those t-shirts came from simon not martina. as he’s the one with the collection. i really dont feel like repeating myself further, mainly because i certainly think that you’re grasping at an opportunity to defend Martina because you cant take constructive criticism against her. much like most kpop fans. -not cool!

        • Cyber_3

          Hahaha! You’re so funny! I actually read the entire ridiculously long conversation, just because I don’t agree with you, doesn’t make me misinformed. Actually if you go check out the “welcome EYK crew” video, you’ll see that half of those shirts are Martina’s. Don’t worry, I’m not hardcore – I just remember because I was (pleasantly) surprised at the time. I am respectfully disagreeing with your assessment (my opinion is just as valid as yours), more than “defending” Martina, it’s not a crime. It’s also hard for me to enjoy the rest of the comments here when you are disrespectful to any of the users, especially me, not just the EYK crew so I felt the need to say something regarding your rudeness. By the way, you can change your username (Alana Key to “-___-” so appropriate!) but people will still see you for what you are and the mods can track your usernames, so be careful.

          Cyber_3 – Sorry Natz, I couldn’t resist……….trolololololooooooooo!! ;)

        • actually i didn’t attack anyone. other than calling Martina a slob, no one was disrespected here but me. also i couldn’t give less of a damn if they track my user name. i haven’t done anything wrong, and as far as rudeness goes you are the rudest one here. other than the person who called me an f***ing Asshole, and they had the respect to apologize. moreover most everyone else gave their point in a dignified manner, other than the “moderator”(who joins arguments instead of ending them). aside from that,
          you are a child, ignorantly jumping into and continuing an argument that had already concluded itself. so take a look in the mirror before you wrongfully state that you “respectfully disagreed” because you did not. also adding to the list oft hings i dont give a damn about is martina’s clothes. in the long run i dont care, i dont plan on seeing her as im done with the fandom and videos. i was only pointing out that shes been looking ruff lately because its ture, and add to the fact that eyk is losing their touch. and regardless of what you say, i will continue to think that. also my name is KAY, not key,if you’re going to throw an insult, get your facts right, otherwise you look very uneducated. please refrain from making yourself look like more of troll and go be in EYK’s yappy over protective dog elsewhere.

    • YukiRed

      Fucking asshole

      • Oi!

        Don’t do that.

        Seriously. Don’t

      • very educated…

        • You call someone a Bitch Ass Pussy you get called a Slob, You call someone a Slob you get called a Fucking asshole………..When does the childish behavior stop? There are other ways to express discontent without resorting to disrespect and name calling….

        • i wasn’t calling her a name. I said she looked like a slob, as in, she use to wear cute dressed and accessories, she worked so hard to lose that weight, and she looks good, yet she doesn’t bother to look presentable on camera. My opinion has nothing to do with the review, ive been noticing this slip in her care for her appearance since last year. This isn’t the first time i said it.

        • dressing casually isn’t being a slob she looked really pretty and cool to me, great make up and her hair looked really cool. She looks like some one that takes great care of herself and is confident and has a great personality. She doesn’t have to wear dresses and accessorize every time she is behind a camera she is a genuine person. I’m sure sometimes she feels like wearing dresses and sometimes she doesn’t. That doesn’t make her a slob. She doesn’t appear messy or dirty or have food spilt over her clothes so I’m not sure what your definition of a slob is. Even if she was I’d still love her personality and what she brings us. Women don’t have to be walking fashion models. And as far as her weight that is none of your business and I think she looks perfect and is as bit as beautiful as any Kpop female emaciated artist you might be trying to compare her to. And of course calling someone a slob is hurtful how could you not know that?

        • Cyber_3

          I agree with you, but I just wanted to comment since what you said reminded me of something. Martina wore more bodycon type dresses (when she wore a dress) in the seriously early videos and then she went on to sort of pinup/cupcake types. Now she wears pants/leggings more. Maybe the “style” change ( I don’t consider it dressing up or down here) was more about gaining weight (hiding under cupcakes) and now that she has lost it again, she doesn’t feel the need to hide her shape….plus it has been a damn-*ss cold winter all over the world this year. And well, she’s with 2 other girls now who are somewhat boyish in their clothes, so she probably feels more comfortable in similar clothing. But we all go through fashion fazes too, c’est la vie!

        • I do believe that maybe everyone is taking the word “slob” the wrong way. There is nothing wrong with dressing causal, however the way she has be presenting herself does not, to me, come off casual, but instead, lazy. Also i am not comparing her to kpop girl idols, but to herself. No one says she has to be a perfect, pretty princess everyday, however it has been a very long time since ive seen her put effort into her looks. Also that is not meant to be hurtful, as a person living in S. Korean she would know and understand that. Also she is the one who put up videos documenting her and simons weight loss, so she put her business out there, aside from that i was very happy for them and more than impressed at their determination and results. (especially with everyone sending them candy) With that being said, what im getting at is that if you worked to hard to lose the weight to get healthy, you should try to look healthy as well. Also she gets a boatload of cute stuff from fans and it would be nice to see her wear them. However, at the end of the day it really doesn’t matter, they will do whatever it is they want and that’s fine. I have my opinions and thats that EYK has deteriorated very much since they obtained their studio, i do not like their attitude as of late, and while i dont mind off color jokes and criticism (which is why i like eyk to begin with) it seems at this point they are just being rude and careless with their words and actions. And before you say, “then you can leave the fandom”, im way ahead of you ive unsubscribed and i dont intend on supporting this nonsense anymore. I really dont know what happened to them, they seem like two different people. I would go into more detail but that’s just pointless at this juncture. Good Day.

        • I wouldn’t ever tell some one to unsubscribe. I’m not one of those dedicated fans that can see no wrong when it comes to S&M. And If you noticed or read any of my comments I’ve also had a few opinions of my own about my dislike for this review. I don’t pay a lot of attention to a persons appearance so I can’t really follow you on the importance of how Martina dresses . For me she looks healthy and happy and even fashionable’ But I understand you must be a person that values looks and appearance. It seems like something very important to you.I like this explanation much more then just simply calling Martina a slob. But to me Martina’s fashion choices are of little importance and really trivial. It’s not something worth hurting someone over. Everything else I really have no problem with I actually have some of those same concerns.

        • Err…. Calling her a slob -is- calling her a name.

          I don’t see any other way of describing calling someone a slob. It’s obviously a negative thing. Like saying she is a pig or is an idiot.

          I agree though, this conversation is devolving into childish name calling and I’m going to just ask that we leave it here and not continue with name calling.

        • that is not meant to be hurtful, as a person living in S. Korean she
          would know and understand that. also slob is in no way a synonym of idiot.

        • Did I say it was a synonym…?

          I said it was a negative thing the same way you would take being called an idiot to be a negative thing. Whether or not it was meant to be hurtful it was still an insult.

          Anyway, you are right, Martina wouldn’t be hurt by the comment because she knows it is not true. Not just because she lives in South Korea and should be used to the fact that some people may be blunt about commenting on other’s physical appearance and it is culturally ok to tell people they are fat and ugly.

          I think the original point you were trying to make was to say that she doesn’t look professional or well put together, or simply that you don’t really like her current style and perhaps feel it is inappropriate. That is your opinion and you are free to have it.

          Cheers, Natz

        • Yes. You did. You said it was an insult like pig (which could be a synonym) or idiot. While they are all insults. They are not synonyms of each other.

        • YukiRed

          What Natz meant was that slob is *similar* to calling someone a pig, but not equal to calling someone a pig. They both share similarities that they are negative things to describe people.
          Sorry for calling you that one other word, I was super frustrated I wasn’t able to vote down so I resorted to that. I might have had a better way to do it…

        • It happens. no harm done.

        • This is what I said:
          “It’s obviously a negative thing. Like saying she is a pig or is an idiot.”

          How is that ….

          You know what? I am just going to concede the point. Maybe my sentence structure was confusing and made you think I was calling them synonyms. It is not important. I have test papers to proctor and correct for my students and I am allowing myself to get into an argument of semantics.

          Really and truly I did not care if you called her a slob, since as you rightly pointed out she probably wouldn’t care either, I just was trying to stop the immature name calling spiral that was happening in the comments, which is my job.

          But having circular, non productive conversations like this is not.


        • Cyber_3

          Natz, don’t let someone’s backpedalling intimidate you. You called it right in the first place and I think you played it well.

          Cyber_3 – former internet forums moderator

        • i wasn’t intimidating anyone. i was making sure she/he was not implying that i was calling her stupid. f.y.i.

        • Thanks. I appreciate the validation. I just realised that I was allowing myself to contribute to an argument that really was not important to me and the original point I was trying to make was being hidden by semantics of grammar.

          All in all I think we all try to make EYK a place where people feel comfortable. Even after all the displeasure about this video I still think the community here is trying to be like that.

        • Cassandra Bosquet
          Cassandra Bosquet

          Natz, you are above and beyond the pearl of maturity in all of this and I agree with Cyber_3 that you handled the situation in the best way and need not to succumb to the negativity.

          My mind is blown by how out of proportion people have gotten over this review.I get that the opinions from EYK may not have been liked by everyone, but for people to take their dislike and change them into vile attacks of the characters, efforts, livelihood, and lives of Simon and Martina is asinine to me. If you don’t like what they said, then feel that way but then move the hell on with life….build a bridge, cross it, and move on.To be still so stuck on what they said, and now how they look, can only be translated to mean that some people have nothing better to do…no homework, no jobs, no meals to make, anything???-To still be attacking them five days later is just sad.

          We’re a community of fans and friends, and as such being supportive should be the foundation of what we do. I’m not saying to blindly love everything every single time, but there should always be a level of respect and maturity amongst us all. Otherwise we might as well not bother logging on at all.

        • oh you’re a teacher? surprise! lol “cheers”

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