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FINALLY! A BoA song made it in for a Kpop Music Monday! We loved “Hurricane Venus” and “Copy and Paste,” kinda liked “Only One” and “The Shadow,” and get the chance to talk about BoA’s “Disturbance” at long last! If you haven’t seen it yet, here it is below:

 

Doesn’t this seem so different compared to most SM stuff? It’s a subtle 90’s R&Bish ballad, and I can’t remember the last time I really heard that from SM. “What is Love” and “Before You Go” are slow ballad-y kinda songs, but they’re still bombastic in that they have big bellowing notes. This song is gentler than those two, and has none of the bombast. Everything else we’re used to in SM, from Sherlock to Mr. Simple to I Got a Boy, are very flashy and ostentatious. I dunno. We’re finding it hard to see where BoA fits here.

We’re not saying that negatively, mind you. We just don’t see this song as embracing any of the trends of Kpop lately. It’s still a really nice song, but it’s so meek and relaxed, while Kpop in just about every other instance is extremely flashy, you know? And it’s not like this song is doing poorly. It’s got more views than any other video in the top 10 on our KpopCharts at the moment, so clearly people are watching and liking it, so what gives? Is it just because BoA has a big fan group? Is it because people are looking for something different in Kpop lately? Or is it attracting a different group of Kpop fans than what we’re used to seeing?

Either way, we really like BoA. Even though her music isn’t our particular favourite artist, we still really like what she’s doing. She’s always displayed a confidence that we’ve admired. She does things on her own, without any other bandmates, and rocks it. In our minds, what Junsu is to sexuality, BoA is to confidence. Does that sound cheesy and vague? I don’t know. We can’t really put our finger on it. We think of it like this: while a lot of Kpop videos have specific techniques to try to win you over, like lip rubbing, or mouths hanging open, or making cute aegyo faces at the camera, BoA doesn’t do any of that. She’s not working the camera and trying to seduce you into falling in love with her. She’s just doing her own damn thing, and you’re fortunate enough to be watching.

Sad side note: we were so happy to be able to talk about our thoughts on BoA this week that we went to the CD shop to try to find BoA’s new CD for a giveaway…buuuuuut we couldn’t find her newest CD. We found lots of her older stuff, but it seems like this song isn’t on CD yet. DARGH! Sorry guise! We haven’t done a giveaway in a while, and we’ll hopefully we able to do one next week for Music Monday!

Also, about the change in the KpopCharts…it was inevitable. Sorry guise. The way we saw it was simply a matter of picking the lesser of two evils. If we didn’t change something about the KpopCharts, girl groups would continue getting no love, and we’d occasionally get stuck reviewing songs we don’t like, which in turn results in us making videos that we just don’t like, and we don’t want to do that. We want to promote things we’re passionate about, you know? The con to our latest system: if we ever do veto first place and pick something different, people will feel screwed over, and accuse us of being unfair. So, it’s either say bad things about a video and piss people off, or don’t say anything about it and piss people off. We feel like not saying anything is better.

We considered other suggestions as well. The suggestion of alternating back and forth week to week from boy band to girl band doesn’t solve the problem of us talking about songs we don’t like. What if the girl band’s video for the week sucks? Same issue. And the idea of making a whole new chart system, just for girl bands, and modifying our current one to make it just for boy bands, is really not feasible at the moment. Coding stuff for the site isn’t cheap, because we can’t code worth a damn ourselves, and so we have to hire a web developer to do it for us. And making TWO Kpop Music Mondays a week: HA! We already put out around 6 videos a week, on top of trying to set up interviews and doing other videos. Our plates are full until we can get faster at editing.

So, hopefully you won’t be too upset about it if your favourite band doesn’t get reviewed one of these weeks. We think it’s for the best, and the only way to get both your voice and our voice in on the picture.

On a less serious note: Martina’s got a boy chicken in this week’s Bloopers:

 

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  1. LongClawTiger
    LongClawTiger

    Came back to watch this again and that Tae-MAN bit still cracks me up. XD

  2. lol should come out with the Taeman song, sounds good.

  3. ShihonoRyo

    I like the music monday changes, but I fear that you will be flooded by imature fangirl rage in case you didn’t pick their oppa’s video that had the most votes.

  4. I was all giggly and happy because a BoA video got reviewed and then on top of that I laughed so much at the manatee part and Taeman song XD Great job guys :D

  5. JYJ Heaven.
    And yeah, BoA is totally like Janet Jackson-high soprano, soulful runs, lots of black leather, independent, kick-ass style.

  6. great job cant wait 4 next week! Drunken Tiger fighting!

  7. LOLing at Simon’s “..both… Korean.” Wahahahahaha! and oh, Martina, I never knew BoA was part of SM either, I only found out 3 years after I’ve been totally exposed to Kpop. I knew about BoA but never knew she was Korean either, hahaha. :P

  8. Dang it. I keep coming back to this. That damn TaeMAN song.

  9. amberrlocket

    taemaaaaaan

  10. This video is exactly why I’m glad you guys are getting a little more control over picking mvs for music monday, I didn’t vote for Boa at first because I really didn’t like the song and didn’t see the potential in the video that you guys obviously did. I actually only started voting for it because you guys told us to in the kpop chart update. But I’m glad you reviewed this mv because this kmm is freaking hilarious! I feel like you guys generally know better than us which mvs you can make the most entertaining kpop music mondays out of. And I think what we enjoy most about kmm is you guys and all the commentary and jokes you make, not really the groups you discuss. So I support your decision! :)

  11. You guys should make a “nasty” album and sell it online!!! I wil definitely buy it ^^

  12. Boa! Wow, she’s a blast from the past. The last time I listened to her was her big USA invasion song. She had all the assets to break into the US market but her handlers just didn’t know quite how to do it. She rivals any pop starlet today.

  13. xxMelodyxx

    OMG that Taeman song! I was almost worried what you were going to talk about for this video since it was a more mild song than what you guys usually do but I was so surprised! The Taeman song is epic! I was singing it in school today xD

    TaeMAN~~~

  14. Taemanliness!!! Haha I will be learning that Taeman song. You guise are awesome. I really like this song I never knew about BoA I am excited to see what you guise are going to do with music mondays. Keep it classy Simon and Martina ;)

  15. Can I have this song for my cellphone!? LOOL TaeMaaan~

  16. The Taemin song is awesome!!! I listen to it in the morning to put myself in a good mood. :)

  17. stardustyuri

    FINALLY! I love the new music monday picking idea~

  18. Like the new kpop charts idea :D Vote for BoA Disturbance
    Taemann <3 hahahaha

  19. The Tae-MAN song.

    My existence is complete.

  20. Lorena Abrodos

    I’m totally VIP but I think you should talk to YG Papa and ask him if
    there’s a chance GD Taeyang and Daesung maybe just maybe do not release
    songs in the same month? I can totally see the top 3 of the new system
    ruined jejeje TT (should I laugh or cry¿?¿?)

  21. Dude. There should be “TaeMAN For President of the Galaxy” T-Shirts.
    I would by one.
    So would most of my fellow Shawols.
    This should happen. Please make this happen.

  22. The TaeMan part had me cracking up, it was allmost too funny! You guys are crazy :D
    But when explaining the new system for Music Mondays, I felt like you were appologizing too much for changing the system… Please don’t feel that way! I’m sure no one minds, and if they do, too bad for them :) Your videos will be better if you get to talk about something that you feel comfortable talking about. I think it’s a brilliant idea. Good luck with it, and don’t feel sorry!

  23. Simon and Martina, don’t worry guise! I highly doubt real Nasties will be upset with your decision, otherwise they’re not true and dedicated Nasties :P You should do what you think will be best and most comfortable for you and no one else. The Nasties will support you no matter what! :D

  24. KATHyphenTUN
    KATHyphenTUN

    ” …The brick one.. and the other brick one….” I laughed so hard :P you guys are awesome!

    Also, I am actually quite happy you guys are making the change! The videos are always so much more fun when its something you want to review. and i’m sure it will be easier on you to do scripting (i feel bad when you guys are dying from work load).

  25. thisisjustforfunval
    thisisjustforfunval

    I’ve honestly loved Taeman’s more MANLY! transformation. He’s been manning it up for a while now and I’ve had to do a few double takes. My first real introduction to him was well the Sherlock teaser photos and I was so uncomfortable looking at them. Then I wasn’t a fan of his goldy locks hair. Uh what I’m trying to say. Taeman, please stay THEMAN! It looks so much hotter on you in my opinion. I can finally start to feel the attraction love for you know. The love for his singing and dancing were there from day one.

  26. Haibara Christie

    For the LONGEST time, I thought BoA was Japanese, because that’s how I got introduced to her (I started in J-Rock/Pop then came to K-Pop). And then came my shock when I found out she was in SM…

  27. I was so disappointed when you didn’t get to review Secret’s Poison last year. The song is good and the video’s even better; with its interesting story line. After School is one of my favorite, but I think they have yet to release an interesting video like Secret; most of their videos are just them dancing and posing. Nevertheless, I think the decision is for the best; and I’m sure it’ll be more interesting to watch videos in which you guys really want to make a review of.

  28. michiehaha87

    I applaud your decision to review the videos you want from the top 3! I would think top 5 would have been better – but you are the bosses :P Lets get more variety into Music Mondays! <3 <3 <3

  29. I love me some BoA as well (Every Heart was my very first KPop song; I looked it up after hearing the Japanese version on Inuyasha’s closing credits), but I wasn’t really wild about this song. I’m glad BoA finally got some love, though :). Of course, I still think I’m Sorry would have made for a WAY better review than Rain Sounds.

    Ya’ll can’t satisfy everyone (esp. on the ‘nets) and I think what you came up with for the charts is fair. This is YOUR show and you are the ones who ultimately have to put your face on the screen. I don’t think we have to worry that a video with a loathsome message (Imma looking at you, Teen Top) will be passed over. The NPOY video was worthy of being mocked and reviewed because the message was SOOOOO awful, the rant was worth it.

    Ok, what’s more manly. . . .kitten or Jigglypuff? Answer: trick question, BOTH CAN KILL YOU!!!

  30. OMG! Taeman song! I love it! I would instantly download that and put it in my iPod! People would ask me “Oh! What song are you listening too?” and I would reply “The TaeMAN song!” (emphasis on the man lol)
    On a side note I literally laughed out loud when Simon said Manatee! It was just so random! I loved it! It’s a good thing I was alone at work or else I would have had a hard/awkward time explaining lol
    I can also picture my dad saying “ManTea! Delicious! It tastes like beer!” lol

  31. xxMelodyxx

    OMG LOOOOL! The TaeMan song is hilarious!!! The most epic anthem ever

  32. I feel the same thing when I saw teamin as a man, I really really man!

  33. Lol. Taeman. You guys are just too funny!

    Definitely sad song, JYJ’s In Heaven. It’s such an awesome song but sad video and sad song.

  34. I just want to hear your opinions, if my favorite song or band isn’t reviewed I personally don’t care, cuz I will still like that song or band even if you don’t talk about it. :)

  35. Probably one of my favorite KMM yet… sooo funny

  36. I almost embarrassed myself at work because of that darn TaeMAN song! I near literally burst out laughing at my desk when the song started & only just barely contained myself! xD

    As for the ending I’m pretty sure both take place in the present. There’s a part in the MV where BoA is in a taxi calling Taemin (for sure) but he doesn’t answer (he places the phone face down) also the clothes they wear at the bridge in the ending & the ones throughout the flashbacks in the MV are different. In “Go back to the past” Taemin decides to respond to BoA’s call & meets her on the brdige (which I figure is the couples favorite spot hence “go back to the past” aka “happier times”) & they make up. In “Let time go by” he doesn’t meet go to meet BoA & she goes to the house later but doesn’t enter instead she walks away dejected & the relationship ends.

  37. Cyber_3

    Let me first say that if Simon and Martina are happy with their decision to change the KMM choice, then I am happy.

    However, I am a little disappointed that they didn’t take this opportunity to take back more creative control and time for themselves. They’ve complained before that they have very limited times they can do interviews because Sunday/Monday/Tuesday are always eaten by KMM and yet they didn’t want to pick a video all themselves once in a while (every second week, whatever) to get those days back? (since filming could be done in advance). Frankly, if Wonderful Treasure Find taught them anything, it is that they can talk about pretty much anything and make it entertaining and people will love it. I also think that picking from the top 3 is going to be a temporary solution: 1) voting clicks gets a lot of revenue, if people don’t think pumping their most into the charts is worth it, voting will go down overall, how much, I don’t know….2) now there’s going to be the added fun/frustration of people trying to pump the top 3 instead of just the #1(at least temporarily ’til they get tired), what if none of them suit? and 3) doing all positive reviews is lame. In my personal opinion: EXTREMELY LAME.

    I understand that (especially as Canadians), S+M don’t want to offend anyone and negative reviews could sometimes get in their way of moving forward in the industry. But I would seriously beg them to not always do a positive review. 1) For myself, and I can see from other comments here, that negative reviews can be some of the most entertaining – for example, I couldn’t stand the disfunction of “I Got A Boy” but I really enjoyed the review and it even makes the song more tolerable now. 2) If all your reviews are positive, you start to look like a shill and your opinions are less respected (not necessarily by me). Also then, all the songs you DON’T review from the top 3 (or top 1) automatically get a negative stigma attached to them. I think pretty much everyone would rather have a negative review than to be snubbed entirely as “not worthy”. By (periodically) picking your own song (without the chart), you avoid snubbing anyone. 3) S+M have always been about balance, I can’t really see how this translates into only positive reviews (even if there are some negative points in the review, I’m talking about overall positive). 4) As Eyk’s influence grows (and we can see that happening), I think that the negative reviews may just start to have a positive impact the industry which I think that most people here on the forums want. Maybe even help give us less “room dancing” M/Vs at the very least. It may not be very “Korean” to say negative things about others or their work but I think it’s appreciated for its difference and “allowed” since you are not Korean, and that’s an advantage to take advantage of.

    Back in the day (oh, around 2003), a well-known site called animeondvd.com I used to work for totally changed its policy behind the scenes from fair reviews of everything, to only positive reviews. Sure, they got a little bit more free stuff out of it (they were already getting lots of free stuff from the industry anyways) but they lost a LOT of members and a lot of respect (and I left too – I couldn’t stand to mislead people). I hardly hear of anyone even referencing the site any more while it had more than a million members (and even more lurkers) back in the day (which is saying a lot for back then). And I’m pretty sure there are still the same number of people (if not more) who buy anime dvds.

    I’m just saying. Those members of U-KISS saw your previous negative review of one of their videos and yet still had an interview with you and even helped with another review. That’s respect. Rather than just positive reviews, I think it would be more helpful to review more different groups/artists and this would be far easier if S+M just picked the song themselves. Just my opinion, please reference the first line of this post.

    Cyber_3 – if S+M are not already getting a lot of free stuff from the industry, you need to look into that, it’s fairly easy……look at the sticker machine……..

    • well, I think fair review will someday get into the business as “what foreign likes and dislikes about our production” since the kpop is growing worldwide and they have to somehow step up their game by gaining the trust from those outside Korea to be a loyal fan who will love their songs but also able to praise/criticized the song the way it is.

      • Cyber_3

        More than about being polite and/or self-serving, I think that the Korean music industry has just come to accept some stuff as quid pro quo over time, like large all girl or all boy bands dancing in boxes. No one complains, so nothing changes. It’s also partially since their target market seems to be the
        tween/teen market which just looooooooves repetition and tends to reject
        radical changes. Does this audience also care for a plot or continuity in their idols’ videos or are they more interested in closeup shots and cool dances unfettered with distractions? Consider also, in a music-generating-machine world, it doesn’t make sense to have your audience focused on one awesome memorable video for too long, you want them moving on to the next thing, buying the next album/swag, ad infinitum.

        I don’t think that it’s only “foreigners” that see some kpop mucic videos as wanting but maybe the foreign kpop audience is a little older, therefore, with different tastes. It could also be that the western mentality towards music is different, for example, if I prefer to get a whole album of new awesome songs rather than a re-release with one new song or 5 forgettable filler songs with one or two “hits”. I also like having a “music video dance party” when I can dance and enjoy the video at the same time. I can’t always get what I want, but I sure try, because (thanks to being old and getting initiated to music through vinyl records), that’s the way I generally listen to my music. And I’m too busy/lazy to keep making playlists……I admit that I am definitely not the target audience for kpop, but I still really enjoy a lot of it…..partially because I love to dance and that segment of the North American music market just seems to have been in a rinse-repeat cycle for the last 10-20 years.

        If you want Simon and Martina’s tl;dr on “how popular is kpop in Korea”, I think it’s obvious that even Korean audiences see kpop as wanting. However, I don’t think that improving it is really a priority for the general populace, they have bigger issues.

        If kpop truly wants to crack the international market, they are smart to start with the US, since it’s often been an easier key to the British Commonwealth and Soviet-type markets in the past. The large kpop entertainment groups will definitely need a paradigm shift to break into this market. Look at PSY, he broke in (and broke it REAL good) but, even from my limited exposure to kpop, I wouldn’t call what he does as “standard” kpop (even if it’s awesome). If they are smart, I think that listening to a “fair” review can only help. I certainly don’t see S+M’s reviews as western-biased, any criticism they give is generally constructive, balanced, and aimed at improvement…..and in all fairness, they make funny skits for songs they like equally as much as those they don’t. As long as they are technically outside the entertainment world, they can be unbiased, which is something that’s just not possible if you make your money directly off the biz.

        Cyber_3 – kinda random, hope it made sense…….

    • 코알라

      nvm <_< i dumb

  38. Djungelurban

    Very glad this new system is being out into place, just wish it would have happened sooner. I mean, if it had been implemented this summer, we would have had an “Ice Cream” KMM?! I can’t help but to think that the world is lesser place without it…

  39. Can you make like, a cut with the Taeman song? I would like to put it on my iPod!

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