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So, we’ve got a lot to say here for this week’s Kpop Music Monday. If you haven’t seen CL’s “The Baddest Female” yet, check it out here:

 

Ok: we’re quite torn about this song and the imagery in the video. I could be totally wrong here, and might have an out of date perspective, so please let me know – in a civil manner – if I’m off here. Here goes:

When I think of rap videos, they usually depict a culture, rather than just an aesthetic. Like “this is what our lives are like. This is what we go through.” Rap music, to me, is more than just music. There’s an overarching narrative of coping and dealing with systematic racism, racial profiling by the police, and economic struggles. At least, that’s what I think of when I listen to rap. I could be wrong in that; I could be seeing something that isn’t necessarily there, and so my conclusions based on those assumptions could then be unfounded. If I’m right, then, to see YG and CL use that specific aesthetic, which kinda symbolizes something more to me than just something that looks cool, I feel a bit icky. The people of YG, I doubt, went through that struggle, so to imitate the genre, aesthetic, and imagery so closely really hits me as insincere. Innocent? Sure! Malicious? No way. I’m sure that there’s a genuine appreciation of rap as an artform, but an understanding of it as a culture?

Also, there aren’t any hoods here in Korea. Nobody here is hood. Nobody in Korea really dresses that way. And we’ve asked lots of people about it. Nobody knows where these hoods are, apart from in the YG studio. Hence the skit we did. Side note: did you know that at Teddy’s Twosome Café, you can buy Teddy’s clothing line as well? The same kinda clothing: hats, beanies, t-shirts. Buy yourself a thug-life oversized tee, with a matching Tumbler, and eat a piece of Tiramisu as people snuggle up behind you and look into each other’s eyes lovingly.

So, all in all, I’m not sure what to think about this. YG has re-appropriated Gangsta life into something different. Something that had meaning to me before I see now, in Korea, as a commercial enterprise. Not that I lived through the same conditions oppression that I talked about before. I’m not talking about it as someone who’s personally offended or upset. I’m just confused by the whole thing, like the commercialization of Christmas or something. I can’t come to a full conclusion about it on my own, so let me know what you think.

All seriousness aside, you wanna hear an awkward story? That last part of the Gangsta Amnesty skit, where we filmed outside of the YG building…well, we filmed that right when office hours were closing, so lots of people were leaving the building. While we were filming, one person ran up to us and said “Simon and Martina!” Great. We were recognized. I didn’t think we’d be, especially with the Gangsta uniform I had on, but I was recognized. The person who recognized us was someone from YG who sent us tickets to the YG family concert a while ago. She remembered us! AHH! So, there we were, in gangsta gear, talking to one of the marketing people from YG. HAVE WE NO SHAME OR EMBARRASSMENT? Yeah, a bit. We talked with her a bit and explained what we’re doing for the skit, and she asked when the video’s going to be live, and we told her, and in the back of our minds we’re thinking “well, we’re not really saying the nicest things about the song and video. This is going to get a lot more awkward when the video goes live.” AHHH! IF YOU’RE READING THIS, YG LADY WHO I WON’T NAME, I HOPE YOU DON’T HATE US! We’d still like to hang out in Hongdae! To everyone else who isn’t the YG Lady, let it never be said that we’re dishonest in our videos!

Side note: you love that Spudgy song, don’t you? I know people are going to be asking about it, so we put it up in our store. Yes! We have a store now! We’re working on putting up all our shirts, and new shirts as well, along with all of the songs that we do. All purchases of Spudgy songs go directly to the Spudgy Touch-My-Tummy fund. Click here if you want to get The Baddest Doggy! It’s the extended version, with parts not heard in the video :D

And, lastly, we’ve got a bunch of bloopers, especially when Martina says something inappropriate accidentally…

 

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  1. You couldn’t be further from the truth, “hoods ” exist within Seoul outside of gangnam rich district, not to mention underground listeners in North Korea, Mongolia, China, Japan, etc…rap/hip hop was a form of political expression and youth struggles. in my opinion Kpop captures it beautiful while American hip hop has lost itself and celebrates drug selling.

    I kinda wish ppl would stop lumping it all as Kpop since many artist like MISS A have put out some good R&B music as well. I think the Kpop definition needs to end. Korean Artist have proven themselves capable across all genre’s of music, it is the American listeners who are turning xenophobic against Koreans especially hip hop fans. Who turn up their nose when they hear other ppl express themselves.

    In Case you’re living under a rock Seoul is the break dancing capital of the world. they have really embrace the essence and love of urban culture while Americans have become obsessed with “thug” image only.

    When you demand that certain forms of music can only be done if you are of that culture/race then you have become a racist. Ppl live hard lives everywhere, Black Americans do not have a monopoly on bad luck and hard times.

    Check out the docu film Mongolian Bling..it will open your eyes.

  2. THAT is the last word on this issue, I’d say. And we have been doing it for far longer and to a far larger extent than KPop.

  3. brilliant. and it isn’t. and people will come to it in their own time.

  4. plus everyone is too busy updating their FB status to even realize there are messages that still need to be told.

  5. I hear you – gotta say tho – you said it yourself – the genre is commercialized differently in the US nowadays and that’s what they’re seeing – modern rap – we don’t have as much of the strong, deep, undercurrents in our Rap like we used to. Either because there is not as much of a need for it since the issues are not as bad as it used to be, or just because no one has had the opportunity to get popular enough to reach other countries with real, old school, rap in the last decade or so. Plus, people’s interests have shifted, even those living 2014 version of ‘the thug life’ are equipped with tech more often than not. Basically, can’t blame KPop for staying current.
    Notice the rappers you named are all in their 30s now.. Plus, 2NE1, especially, seems to be all about blending diff genres and daring to perhaps offend in their songs. Otherwise they really really really have no business including Reggae in their songs! But I like that they do because I see it as something different than the Reggae I am used to hearing here. Not bad, nor mockery, just different. (and of course they’d use it – they’re not deaf – a good sound is a good sound!)

  6. i was with you all the way til “sadly”. Nothing sad about it not being relevant anymore. It’s good that these controversies have come soo close to resolution and so many fewer people’s lives are affected by racism and we have the freedom now to waste our time on talking about brands, drinks, riches. i’m sure you didn’t mean to say “sadly” there.

    • yea but other genres are stepping up and doing so. Can’t really be hard on CL for what she says in her rap – can’t single rap out – to need to stay traditional when all other genres are changing constantly. Although I agree that music can bring light to issues, but how many people do you know that have ever heard Ice Cube’s ‘Black Korea’ or Tupac’s ‘Hellrazor’. Instead, people will remember the news articles and later the TV covers of the awful mess that was the riots in 92. People who like and listen to rap may have heard the songs, but bets face it – its media that brings light to things and although music can, can we really look down on musicians who don’t. As someone who likes rap – I’m just glad new stuff is coming out and if it’s more meaningful, all the better. This song isn’t one I particularily like, but I like 2NE1 in general because they are not afraid to cross boundaries and bring all kinds of genres into their songs. The must know some people would dislike them for it, but they do it anyway and I gotta respect them as long as they keep bringing different things together.

  7. haha yeaaa about the clothes in that setting!! lolol but to be fair, not like our rap songs were all realistic in their vids either :/

  8. I agree they lack the same authenticity – they are borrowing some visual bits. Instead I think in Korea, they may not have ‘thug’ as we do here in the US, but they sure as hell have gone through and are still going through difficulties. I mean, for one, they are still actively at war with their neighbors. Maybe they haven’t been through the hood, but every single male has to go into Military – that’s a different kind of hardship and a danger unto itself. They don’t talk about it in their songs, but I bet they don’t forget about it easily. There has been a shift in the US too, about Rap, can’t find authntic old school rap much anymore – now we get the weed, hoes, and cars crap instead – but can’t be mad – something must be going right for a lot of people.

  9. someone please define hood and gangsta for me. I grew up in a bad area near Boston, shoes hangin on like every telephone line, cops always around, people shot a few feet from my apartment’s front door… is that “hood”? Really?
    And rappers may have come from poverty or other difficult situations in life, but many have not. I don’t think being poor is a pre-req for being a good rapper. And if you wanna talk poverty, plenty of Korean Celebs have experienced their share (ever read up on Rain’s background?). so I don’t think it boils down to economics either. I’m not so sure about 2NE1, but I think anyone who can do it, should. How about not defining things just to meet some assumed stereotype from the 90s? I think that what’s ‘gangsta ‘ is changing. I, for one, don’t go around telling people I lived in the hood, walked past projects almost every day, etc. I just think of it as a low-income area my family was stuck in for a while. These days, I encounter people telling me that I’m in a gangsta place, but honestly, they just label it gangsta so they don’t have to feel bad about blasting base in the middle of the night or hollering like banshees whenever it suits them. But there is no violence and everyone still has their iPhone and wifi hook up. Gangsta used to mean “don’t look the wrong person in the eye or you get shot”, but I’ve discovered that even in wife beaters and baggy jeans, 2 black, 30-something, rough looking guys can be totally friendly and chill if you approach em with the right attitude. Living in low-income (what you might call “hood”) just means you grow up with different ideals and goals and priorities. Korea not having hoods, I don’t understand that.. There is plenty of poverty there too. There are dangers and alcohol abuse and such there too. Thankfully, you don’t see many people carrying guns, but the potential for it is certainly there.
    I think that songs like CL’s and BIGBANG’s ‘La La La’ may be just as ‘hood’ as they want them to be. Nevermind the labels – they are just a crutch. Living in a bad area, its easy to fall into thinking “im in ‘da hood’ now, gonna be all gangsta and nevermind school or work or whatever” – that’s a crutch. And an outdated one at that. Life is a struggle. Even filthy rich can find themselves with “hood” mentality if “hood” is to mean “oppression” and “coping and dealing with systematic racism, racial profiling by the police, and economic struggles”. In fact, those def can apply to anyone at any time. The word ‘hood’ just has its own weight and mindset that weighs on you, when you’re better off without it. Kudos to KPop for making rap look colorful and bright! Is about time we expand our minds and step out from labels.

  10. Simon the hood is somewhere here. Here’s to hope

    http://youtu.be/IBK0nvJlfgw

  11. I’m with you guys on this one. It grows on you but for the most part…I DON’T like it. LOL Its got it good point but mostly…NOT!!! Thanks for the on-the-scene reporting on the Gangster was just looking for a place to be himself. I’m glad he’s going back to be a Wigger. My daughter is a Wigger! No really, she makes AWESOME WIGS!!!!
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419818188111451&set=t.1413460815&type=3&theater (she’s in the middle but basically makes pretty much all the stuff you see, and more!) Thanks for that plug! LOL But seriously!

  12. What video did Martina mention that CL stole her hairstyle? I thought it was funny but I can’t find it!

  13. I just checked out “Princess of China.” I think it should be renamed Asian princess. It has way too many different Asian cultures. (seriously, ninjas?) Also, Rihanna is nowhere near Chinese.

    I think YG was trying to show a badass image that is simliar to what is seen in American rap mvs. It may have gotten liked by Korean kpop fans (i’m guessing. please don’t hurt me), but it might not have attracted the international listeners that have knowledge as to what rap music is like.

  14. Glad to see I am not the only person who didn’t care for this song. I actually turned it off before it finished. Ugh.
    Loved the review though! So nice to start my day off with something funny. Gansta Spudgy was bad ass! Bad in a good way, not a bad dog…. XD
    As for the battle of solo songs: Park Bom without a doubt.

  15. Your comment really expresses how I was feeling whilst reading the blog post for this KMM. “But.. YG does this all the time..?”

    Both yours and @Rabby’s comments were worded eloquently and politely, and I’m grateful for your opinions, as well as Simon and Martina’s. It’s nice to know we can have these kinds of discussions without anyone claiming to be “butthurt” (oh how I have come to loathe the phrase) or bashing on the latter.

  16. did soozee dye her hair?

  17. This was one of my concerns here. that Martina’s fans would thinks it’s ok to use a word that is laced with racist innuendos. Especially here, younger fans and ones not to familiar with American slang or culture. I’m not saying you fit into that category but this was one of my main concerns after hearing Martina use it. That word is neither cool nor funny. It’s actually a word an English teacher should of been ashamed to use.

    • I don’t think you or even Martian’s original comment was made with intent to belittle or shame anyone. But I do believe that words can hurt people they might not hurt you they might not even hurt most people but words can hurt. Or they could just really piss someone off. I know on the internet it’s easy to be offensive because you don’t have to look at someone in the eyes while saying something. Like I doubt Martina would use the word wigger in front a group of black friends and be comfortable saying it. This also applies to me. I would also have a more difficult time telling Martina face to face that I absolutely hated her using that word.

  18. I’ll admit I like the song “Princess of China” but didn’t like the music video. Rihanna cannot pass for a Chinese Princess, plus she was wearing a kimono which is Japanese. And then the imagery with her 8 arms (I guestimate) isn’t even Asian, it’s East Asian. That video was quite the let down for me. I don’t think most people are hurt because YG portrays American hiphop in this video. YG has used American hiphop imagery in their videos way before this video. It’s the use of American Gang culture to show how “bad as in good” CL is that doesn’t sit well with some. To portray it in a positive light is wrong on so many levels. And I agree with you, America has distorted symbols in many cultures (not just Asian).

  19. I see where you’re coming from Simon on the whole rap/hip hop culture misuse YG seems to be doing. It’s annoying to me but I usually just shrug it off. Just like the kids from back in high school who I labeled as “wannabe gangsters”, that’s how I see some YG artists (and a few others in Kpop who go for that concept – it’s not all just YG) at times. But there are some things they do and symbols & words they use that I’m not quite sure they’re fully aware what they actually mean. And this just makes them appear as idiots. It’s laughable sometimes. I’m for people who are real and have a handle on who they are. Many in Kpop who hold onto the rap/hip hop culture image appear very fake and completely ignorant of what it really is, therefore I don’t care for these Kpoppers. I respect their talent, yes, but I’d respect them a lot more as people if they weren’t trying to “be cool.”

  20. I wish your kind of comment was being posted by more people; it’s totally normal in today’s global media market for different cultures to reappropriate images and aesthetics to suit their own styles and needs. Yes, it distorts them from the original, but that’s okay too. It’s like saying Koreans (or any culture other than African-American) shouldn’t be able to sing the Blues for similar reasons, in my opinion. Where do you really draw the line, and who gets to decide? Why is it such a bad thing for it to enter into the mainstream pop diet, when listeners might eventually find their way back to the roots and be intrigued by that as well? I personally don’t see a problem with it.

    All of that being said, this was not my favourite song, it sounded like too many others (GD, or even “You Got Some Nerve” by Junhyung, Feeldog and LE – which I LOVED), and felt a bit muddled… My point is that I’m not trying to protect CL and her song, and making an argument for the sake of that – but that it’s happening EVERYWHERE, not just Korea, in K-pop or with YG. And the guy who is, in my opinion, the king of hip-hop and rap in Korea, Jay Park… Where does he stand in all of this? Does he have more claim to it all because he grew up in America, as a part of a minority? What of bringing it back to Korea? I think this argument raised more questions than it answered.

    I guess the tough part in all of this is that S&M might be presenting their views as they have them – but the truth is that many of the discussions they have with their fans may also change those perspectives. Unfortunately, as time goes on, their views in their videos are frozen in time, while their own opinions may have altered. I hope fans won’t judge them too harshly when their opinions differ (so far discussions seem to be quite peaceful here! ^_^) because S&M are likely still growing and learning, too.

  21. NAEGA OOLF! NAEGA OOLF! Thank you for that. I needed to not be alone in that anymore.

  22. G-Dragon did mentioned he wanted to be “naked” as his next fashion concept though…. xD

  23. Awesome KMM! I do agree that YG is pushing to hard on the “gangsta” concept. To be honest, they haven’t done really good hip-hop tracks/concepts since 1TYM and old Big Bang songs. With the exception of G-Dragon’s “One of a Kind” (though it sounded like something Lil Wayne would do… o.O), YG’s “gangsta” concept seemed… plastic now. >w<

  24. omg, gangster spudgy… <3

    i'm definitely voting for CL against Park Bom cuz she's way sassier!!! Park Bom sings well and she's super pretty, but she can't act!

  25. Alright, I’m willing to admit it, even though I didn’t really like the song, dammit if I wasn’t humming the chorus at various points of my day. It’s an ear worm.

  26. I totally noticed that!

  27. I actually didn’t notice that GD wasn’t wearing any pants until I read the comments. I was too transfixed on CL xD

  28. i wud have been really weird analysing the video since… there’s nothing to analyse. the video was too mashed up and random and just strange places with stranger clothes… i really liked the gangsta amnesty! i laffed a lot!
    All in all, i’m not a fan of CL, but i actually expected an awesome video with sick beats… i got pretty disappointed… it was like a randomer, girl version of GD’s mvs… -_-

  29. I think you guys should go on a quest for the true Korean hood. Who knows, maybe you might find something… similar? Maybe it’s in another city. xD

  30. *Not related to song whatsoever*

    Aren’t you guise happy that people can actually discuss an MV like this with maturity and an open mind?? That’s why I always go to your blog post cause I learn from people’s opinion and experiences and less of those “OMG YOU ARE SO WRONG CL IS THE BEST”.

    (Most) Nasties Rock!! :D

  31. These clearly are subjects that awoke disqussion :D For me it doesn’t bother that much if kpop rapping doesn’t have deep meaning.. mostly the singing doesn’t have either! I love good lyrics and messages but they are rare candy in now-days music (well indiemusic probaply has better messages). I haven’t quite much ever listened rap about social issues and things like that so before kpop rap was for me “big booty hoes” and after kpop.. well I realised that it’s possible to rap about love and things like that too. So.. I kind of draw krap higher (even idol rap) than rap that western world produce ^^;

  32. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

    I’m using Macklemore as an example of how I feel about this video. To me, rap and hip hop have recently been enveloping a lot of different messages and cultural trends. Macklemore, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Common, and the Lonely Island all use rap but in totally contrasting ways. This new trend of variety has evolved from the way it was in the 90s, as Simon was saying, when the music itself was a message because most rap and hip hop revolved around a central theme. Macklemore and CL are examples of today’s way more diverse rap and hip hop in which the musical style (rap/hip hop) is simply a tool to get a message across. I think where it gets weird is when the video shows a gangster lifestyle that CL is most likely not a part of. But again, the Lonely Island (a comedic musical group who were once on SNL) also use that imagery but in an ironic/making fun of the lifestyle kind of way. So, what exactly is CL doing? She is using the imagery not in an ironic way but in order to boost her image. She wants to be seen as “bad” and tough so that gangster imagery was chosen to portray it. Is this wrong? To me, it is simply silly and makes me laugh, but I can see where it’s off-putting to others. She’s using imagery that she is not associated with just to create a certain image. However, just like the use of rap and hip hop has changed, so has the use of gangster lifestyle imagery.

    What do you think?

    • Good point about the evolution of rap beyond just the “gansta”, and that it has been so for a long time. I mean, heck, Matisyahu anyone?! As I read your post, I instantly thought “true, but CL is deliberately invoking the gansta image” and as such she’s inviting criticism of her total lack of hood cred and the borderline offensive way she has appropriated it and mixed it in with the usual cotton candy sugar image traditional in kpop. However, you went on to point out exactly that, so kudos! ;)

      I still think it’s inappropriate to ape the “gansta lifestyle” unless you’re doing it in a satirical way like Ludacris’ famous “Stand Up” video, but even then he pulls it off because he does have legit cred in that lifestyle. To me, this was as tone-deaf as the chubby anime nerds who own fake katanas and wear dragonball-z shirts and claim to be “japanese on the inside” etc. Yes, it’s silly and we laugh, but deep down, it’s a bit offensive to the culture they are mimicking. Know what I mean?

      • :D Matisyahu is a great example! This post made me laugh so much! And good point with Ludacris, too. And yes, I totally know what you mean. CL is mixing up a strange brew and it can totally be seen as distasteful. I’m just thinking that so many people from all different cultures are taking on these gangster images that it’s slowly becoming a new norm. Maybe not an acceptable and non-offensive one, though!

  33. For this one I have to disagree…guys, why so serious? Probably they don’t know what rap/hip hop culture really is, but to me it doesn’t make a problem…kpop is about images and concepts…it is also extremly graphic- oriented…going too deeply in the things doesn’t suit it…Simon and Martina you were the first to teach me this! So, let’s not take the thing too seriously! ^_^
    About the song, it is not bad, nor extremely good…but I sing it a lot, because I find it cute and catchy.

  34. My opinion of this song… well, it felt very GD-ish. :P
    It wasn’t so good, but it wasn’t awful either, so I guess it will grow on me. Something tell me though that she will rock this song in future concerts, like she always does on stage. But I don’t think I will listen to it with headphones with my mp3-player and such… Because the video was very entertaining, but if you only listen… I don’t know. :( I actually feel pretty disappointed. I don’t know why though. She loves her song and I’m happy for her. :)
    I somehow looked forward to amazing rap-parts in this song (because she’s really good, she is!) but at the same time, I ‘knew’ that she wouldn’t rap in this song. I guess I was right, because I can’t really hear any of it. Too bad, because I think that was what most of us Blackjacks had been waiting for. Or maybe not, I don’t know, I can’t speak for everyone, can I?
    In 2NE1’s upcoming album, I really hope that we will hear some hip-hop beats again, some CL and Minzy rap (it’s been a while since, right?) and amazing hit songs like ‘I am the best’, ‘Fire’ and ‘Can’t Nobody’.

  35. You guys are awesome!
    Everyone in my city is a rapper, singer or trying to be. Rap culture isn’t dead but its been commercialized and made palatable for the masses. It is true that the point of rap music is to describe your life, sometimes it becomes what you want your life to be- but the best rappers talk about what they know.
    I don’t have a problem with the rapping, i just have a problem with the “swagger jacking” they are attempting to do. There are backpack rappers who don’t claim to be hard, because that isn’t who they are… I hope YG artists could get that through their heads.

    Now for the mess CL has created, it has been evident for some time now that she thinks she’s hood (remember her ghetto accent) and i think it’s hilarious. Drop her off on the east side of Detroit where people really look like the folks in her video and see what she does. lol.

  36. Oddly, what bothers you about this song is actually what I like about it. I don’t particularly like the whole “gangster” rap thing you see in the US because it has so much underlying culture. And to me, it’s not really a culture that should be celebrated. The problems you were talking about of being poor and racism etc, are seemingly made worse by that culture, not really better. They celebrate it and encourage others to emulate it. However /rant – I like this song because in Korea you don’t have that culture. They can take the appearance of the gangster culture (which sometimes does look awesome) without having the gangster culture. They can also take the excellence of some rap and turn it into something great here, without having to be giving props to one gang or another or causing shootings or whatever (although some fans can get crazy!). Anyway – just my opinion, I know many won’t agree.

  37. I’m a big fan of 2ne1 and I love their music and singing skills, but this is just disappointing! I really thought CL’s song was gonna be in 2ne1’s style, this was just a slower ver. of “one of a kind” …yg waeeeeee~ EYK great job!

  38. I completely understand where you guys are coming from. This sort of hip-hop gangsta life is something I had a hard time accepting with asian pop. But I guess my issue is why mention it now? It has been going on for years. I remember being crushed when my favorite kpop group Baby V.O.X released Xctasy. It was their “attempt” to break out in the US market. Basically producers saw images of “gangsta” and “hip-hop” culture and dressed the girls up. American’s like 2PAC? Let’s buy rights to an unreleased rap and put it in the song. American’s won’t find that offensive? Right?

    I think also we need to think about the context of how hip-hop enters other countries. For example I remember doing a report about rap & hip-hop in Japan. Basically the movement became popular not necessarily because of music being imported, but more so because of break dancing. Because break dancing was so popular some people started to learn how to DJ to make music to dance to, then came in the rappers. Because of this rap became about something different. It wasn’t about rap battles, or talking about how hard life is. I hear Japanese rap being a lot more light hearted and goofy is anything.

    That said I don’t know much about the HISTORY of Korean rap. From what I can see, it seems that there are more Korean Americans who paved the way for the movement so Korean rap is probably more “traditional” to the original American movement. I had a hard time swallowing YG when I first got into Kpop because unlike Japanese hip-hop (which kind-of carved it’s own definition), it was TOO much like American culture without the substance. G-Dragon rapping about Korean Baseball? Se7en with his backwards cap slinging a chain? Get out! I had to ignore the image and just listen to the music. I think the modern stuff I have accepted because hip-hop in Korea has sort of carved it’s own identity. T.O.P and G-Dragon have a unique image that I am not sure would even work in the US, but I feel like would be respected.

    That said I wish CL did something else with her imagery. I think her song is relevant to modern Korea. Women are gaining a lot more respect and empowerment. I think women should take pride in themselves and be more vocal about it. I wish the video was less about swag and looking cool and more about strong women, strong women in KOREA.

    Oh and GD without pants, maybe it was just a joke on saggy pants. His just fell off.

  39. Agree with you on a LOT of levels.

    “I understand that hip hop culture has such a vast history but why can’t kpop draw influences from it.”

    “They’ve drawn influence from sooo many other parts of western culture on pure face value why should hip hop be the taboo that everyone gets angsty about.”

    THANK YOU…

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