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Kpop Music Mondays: Girls Generation “Mr Mr”

March 4, 2014


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Shazaaam! Girls’ Generation are back with an awesome song! We let you know why we thought it was good in our video. Also, 2NE1’s video just came out today, but just a bit too late for us to do a comparison of the two. Both are totally different songs and videos. I’m not sure which song I like more, really. Hmm. Will have to think about that more for next week.

What are your thoughts on the Girls Generation video? There are some things about it that just seem ill planned. One of the things we didn’t talk about in our video is that parking lot scene. Girls Generation walk off the camera, and instead of the edit ending there and cutting to something else, it goes on for another few seconds to look at the cars, and then you notice some dudes in the back start…dancing or waving or something? I don’t know. It just didn’t seem necessary at all, and seems rather indicative of a video that wasn’t well edited. The sets, costume, and props were all cool looking, but I wish that the editor stepped away and let the video speak for itself. Take a look at how clean “Hoot” was edited compared to this video, and you’ll see what I mean.

Soo Zee was really passionate about talking about the song, though. We were surprised that she didn’t like the song and how it made her skin crawl. It was for reasons that we didn’t get into in the video, because Soo Zee had a difficult enough time expressing her disdain without cringing, but the part after “Mr. Mr.” they say “you’re the best guy!” and it’s – in Korean – corny beyond all words. Our Korean isn’t good enough to know whether something’s corny or not, because we still say “Assah!” whenever we do something right, and supposedly that’s corny as well, but when have we ever let corniness stop us? I think Soo Zee’s just too cool for this song. All I know now is that I find the chorus a wee bit ruined for me now.

So, one of the things we’ve suggested in this video is that Kpop in 2013 was weaker than usual. 2009-2012 were, for us, the glory years. SHINee, Big Bang, Girls Generation, 2NE1, 2PM, Miss A, Bilasa, Hyuna, Super Junior, all had great songs and fun videos that we were super excited about. 2013, though, just didn’t have that. Some videos were good, but a vast majority of them left us underwhelmed, and we didn’t feel the same level of excitement towards Kpop that we usually do. And, like we said, we’re not the only ones we know who feel this way. Kpop videos aren’t getting the same amount of views, either, it seems. But this is a conversation we’ve only had with 10-15 or so other people. We know a lot more people online than offline, so let us know what you think. Is Kpop as good as it always was, or was 2013 not that great of a year?

Anyhow, we have higher hopes for this year. Girls Generation’s song was great, 2NE1’s two videos are pretty sweet, and everything else that comes out is gonna be fantastic elastic. FANTASTIC ELASTIC, I SAY!


We’ve got a few bloopers from this week’s Music Monday. Martina has another brainfart with the word “segmented” and I make out with a cat to try to cope with a bad headache. Is it the yellow dust or something? I don’t know. All I know is that cat snuggles make everything better:

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Kpop Music Mondays: Girls Generation “Mr Mr”


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  1. I’m just going to pop in really quick because I suspect most people didn’t join k-pop in 2013 like I did. I had a ton of time off from work and so got into k-pop and k-dramas all at once during the fall. I wouldn’t say it was thanks to Psy because I don’t care for his music. I thought Gangnam Style was a hilarious video but in general, it wasn’t my cup of tea. I had seen Girls Generation from a year or two ago when they were on a show with Kelly (from Regis and Kelly) and I couldn’t get over how much I disliked the English in the song. The only reason I kept periodically listening to k-pop was because I’ve loved Japanese anime for years and I loved the pop songs that often went with those shows, but I’d never heard any j-pop group that really grabbed me.

    Sometime last summer a friend of mine showed me some of SHINee’s music videos from 2009/10? And I wasn’t a fan then either (they were too young – I’m 24). But somehow I came across Everybody back in November and I was HOOKED. It was basically exactly what I had been waiting for and I fell in love with their music. I love electronic music, I love hot dancing, and I especially love people who can perform live. Their personalities and voices really made me a k-pop fan.

    That being said, the more I branched out looking for more great music like Everybody, the more I kept hitting a wall. Especially for music from 2013. Most of the stuff I like was from 2012 and 2009. So, from what little I know, I assumed 2013 was just an “average” year for k-pop. And there’s nothing wrong with a year being just average. It still produced some great songs. I’m optimistic that 2014 will have some great music. And I probably can only say this because I haven’t had the time to become jaded yet. ><

    2 years ago
  2. I started listing to Kpop at the end of 2011. 2012 was a great year and why I think I got so into Kpop. Shinee Sherlock, BigBang Alive, G Dragon One of a Kind, Exo Mama, F(x) Electric Shock. These were the albums that got me so excited about Kpop. I have to say that 2013 was disappointing. There were some great things like GD’s album and Exo’s growl. I also loved 2PM’s album. Why did that not get more attention? I also loved all three of Shinee’s albums but did NOT like the songs they promoted from them. In a word . . . disappointing. I hope this year is better.

    Also, I really do not like this song. I like SNSD in general but I think this song is boring. I like IGAB better (but I agree with Simon on Run Devil and Genie as some of their best songs). I also agree with Martina about the suit dance. Best part of the video.

    2 years ago
  3. I was very surprised when you guys said this song was awesome. I sincerely though you were going to bash the song. But I guess not! I thought the song was very ok. Here’s why:

    For me, a song HAS to have depth, of feeling, in a way, otherwise I won’t like it. I like complexity too but it’s not really a requirement, more like a bonus. This song though has neither. For me, has no feeling at all, the beat is pretty much the same the whole song, the vocal lines are, at times, arranged very awkwardly to the instrumentals (I personally think this is either a lack of musical talent or just laziness) and the chorus (the part Soozee talked about) is very cheesy (in sound, I don’t speak korean).

    The video though, I kinda liked it. Visually, at least. I liked the colors, the effects and all that jazz. I could’ve been done more neatly but I liked it. And I liked it even more because it’s a different image for the girls. Very interesting. However, the dance was just ok and that black and white show of them dancing (the breakdown part), although I liked it, it didn’t fit the rest of the video at all.

    So, in a nutshell. Cool video, weak song. Not bad, because I can enjoy it. But weak.

    Obviously, this comes down to personal preference but you asked our opinions, so this is mine ;D

    2 years ago
  4. Well, I’m very new to K-pop. I was looking for up tempo songs to run to. The first SNSD song I came upon was “I got a Boy” and thought it was too weird. But I’ve found lots of other SNSD music and videos that I’ve really loved.
    I think that this has been a wonderful year for Kpop. I found you guys and have been watching a ton of your videos. I’ve been finding tons of fringe kpop groups that I’ve really been enjoying. I guess you old Kpop fans are beginning to move on.
    For me I think if a group sings, Dances and raps its a good song and video. For me 2014 can only get better. I hope to see groups like VIXX, Mamamoo, Beastie, Firestar, Shinee, Secret, Blady and others go bigger for 2014.

    2 years ago
  5. Martina YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS MY FEELINGS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SEXY CONCEPT. I think it’s great if you have a nice body and all sure, good for you. But honestly I don’t like racy ‘sexy’ videos where the girls are basically wearing cloths as skirts or the guys don’t seem to know how to use a shirt, in fact it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable seeing them getting all up-close with the camera.

    That’s why I have such and obsession with T.O.P because he doesn’t take off his clothes! He’s just such a gentleman, he’s funny, smart, and handsome, but the thing I love most about him is how he’ll never remove a single item of clothing and covers up his body because that’s the kind of person I’d like I guess.

    Anyways, getting a bit off topic, when I see videos like ‘Mini Skirt’ and ‘Blaxx’ it just puts me off of kpop. I’m not saying that sexy is a bad thing, but you don’t have to be practically naked to be sexy like in SISTAR’s Alone, I mean obviously it was bit provocative but it wasn’t the now-a-days kpop MV’s where they are all wearing crop tops and miniskirts and ripping off clothing.

    Kpop in 2013 was so Meh.

    Just nothing interesting really, except for GD and TOP’s songs (in my opinion) that’s all that kept me going….I think I don’t like the kpop of now where all the girl groups decide to do the sexy concept because here in Britain and western countries, there’s already a lot of over-sexy videos and songs these days so kpop interested me at first because of it’s lack of sexy and more innocent concepts..

    I really hope the old kpop comes back because honestly, if I see a bunch of more sexy videos I’ll explode, gather myself and just stick to dubstep.

    2 years ago
  6. I got into K-Pop thanks to ESPN, The World Wide Leader in Sports. In 2001 they hired a local Boston writer named Bill Simmons. Mr. Simmons grew to be so popular over the next 9 years that ESPN spun him off into his own website, Grantland.com, Grantland in turn became a site for Simmons and a wide variety of writers to create content that is split between sports and pop culture. Grantland is where you can find an article breaking down this year’s NFL free agency class right next to an article about this week’s episode of “The Real World”. They used to run a weekly article called “Grading the charts” where they would pick a genre or a country and then give grades to the songs that were on the Billboard charts that week. In 2011 they posted one for K-Pop (http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/grading-this-weeks-top-ten-k-pop-songs/), the number one song that week was “The Boys” by GG, I liked the song and thought the video was pretty cool, so down the rabbit hole I went.
    I found EYK one day on youtube because I was trying to understand why everyone was freaking out about T-ara and Hwayoung. The TL;DR that they posted was a bit hyperactive but very amusing, been a fan ever since.

    2013 was a pretty good year for K-Pop, There were a lot of quirky releases: Lee Jung Hyon’s “V”, and Sunny Hill’s polka inspired “Darling of All Hearts” immediately come to mind, (though aegyo Kota still throws me off after “Grasshopper” and “Midnight Circus”). Dal Shabet’s “Be Ambitious” was a great song that I still listen to almost daily. G-Dragon’s solo release was fantastic, Beast, Infinite, IU, 4Minute, and Brown Eyed Girls had great comebacks. There were some good “under the radar” tracks from SPICA, Kim Greem, and AoA, et. al.
    The biggest challenge facing K-Pop today is over-supply. So many entertainment companies pushing so many groups, and there is not enough time to listen to them all. I think it is easy to think that 2013 was disappointing but I would counter with “there was a lot of good stuff in 2013, you just have to have been lucky enough to find some of the lesser known ones”

    2 years ago
  7. Believe it or not, I actually thought 2013 was a pretty good year. I do agree though, there were some videos that made me cringe, but over all, not a terrible year for Kpop.
    One thing I would like to request of you!
    As someone who has only been into Kpop for about a year and a half now, I would LOVE to hear your recommendations on other Kpop bands and songs from the last maybe 10+ years that aren’t main stream bands. I know you guys mentioned in the Anniversary video, that Soo Zee had a lot of good recommendations of older bands from the 80’s? I believe that’s correct. (Please correct me if I’m wrong!) But any who, I’d love for you guys to just do a video recommending more stuff that I may not have heard of since I’m still a newbie!
    I love you guys!

    2 years ago
  8. I came into k-pop around 2009 with the attraction to SHINee’s Ring Ding Dong and SNSD Gee making this whole genre really fun and interesting and it continued on up until this year were I felt it kind of flew over my head and passed as almost mediocre. I feel like k-pop 2013 had some AMAZING songs too it, along with really poopy ones. There was some great albums like IU’s Modern Times which made 1920’s music sound cool and I really like when k-pop artists experiment with older sounds and make them modern! There was not as many groundbreaking songs with few exceptions so altogether k-pop 2013 was summed up as a little average, nothing to special sadly.

    2 years ago
  9. I voted “worse than usual” but I will say that I only came into k-pop in 2011 or so. And at that point, I had a nice little backlog of awesome to go through. As a Suju fan, this past year has been kind of crap. As an SNSD fan, this year has also been kind of crap. I’ve tried to get into Exo, but my heart just wasn’t invested in it the way it was in Super Junior and SNSD. Thus, this video made me rather happy. THIS is what I fell into this crazy fandom for!

    2 years ago
  10. First, I find very few things more attractive than females in suits. It’s just amazingly hot. As for Kpop, I have been a fan since 2010 and while the shiny “omg, this is incredible” has worn off, I still find songs that I just love. Exo’s Growl was that song for me last year. While there are other songs that I like, anything from TVXQ (only slightly biased), there were a lot of “blah” songs in 2013. A lot of older groups are not releasing anything right now, and if they are, it isn’t as mind blowing as older songs used to be. Complexity in Kpop has become rare and few in between. I think Big Bang draws so many fans to them because they don’t sound like everyone else. I think that’s what made Growl so popular, too. Glory days kpop (for me) are songs like Rising Sun or Mirotic or Haru Haru or even Genie. And I completely agree that most groups no longer have that coherent sound. It’s what grabbed my attention about TVXQ in their glory days and what still keeps me hanging on.

    2 years ago
  11. i’m not really a SNSD fan. i haven’t really liked their stuff for a while now, but i was so happy to hear this song. i pretty much agree with everything you guys said. and btw this kmm made me LOL and i’m so happy to see this video format back. 2013 wasn’t a very good year for kpop overall, but i’m still blasting mblaq’s smoky girl. 2013 was very polarized for me where a lot of songs were either so bad or completely forgettable, and then a small percentage of songs blew my mind and i now play on repeat. i think 2014 is looking up. rain’s new stuff has gotten me more excited and i’m definitely looking forward to what everyone else comes out with^^

    2 years ago
  12. Ah, awesome, I was gonna post this if no one else had. This is basically what I wished the MV had been :D

    2 years ago
  13. I’ve been listening to KPOP since 2009 and the first video I watched was Big Bang’s Haru Haru. In 2011, I started to discover more bands in KPOP rather than just Big Bang and 2NE1. I was happy to discover Boyfriend, B1A4, B.A.P, MBLAQ, BEAST (Batoost), and many other groups.

    However, in the last two years, it did seem that KPOP videos were becoming more generic, like, everything sounded and looked the same. Plus, there were many, many, many new KPOP groups debuting that I ended up not being as excited as before. I couldn’t keep up with so many groups and so I only stuck with the ones I discovered back in 2011 or the ones in the Big 3.

    I do hope that KPOP will be better than last year. :)

    2 years ago
  14. Oh my God I never realised that
    about SNSD. How powerful they are as a whole, how united they feel.
    I’ve been struggling to find what’s so special about them for years. Why
    they are so successful. Why I always seem to come back to them (I have a
    love-hate relationship with SNSD…). That’s it! Unity, cohesion is
    their strength.
    I also feel that about Infinite, Nine Muses, Miss A,
    and more recently EXO. All those groups – and probably more – feel like
    they’re working together as a team while sometimes, other seem more like
    a competition between members – which is not necessarily a bad thing,
    it works very well for BAP and Big Bang.
    I’m going to go through SNSD’s releases again with that in mind. Thanks Martina!

    Really good KMM by the way. I
    like funny ones as much as the next one but it feels good to hear your
    honest and balanced opinions from time to time. AND it was funny still.

    2 years ago
  15. That’s a great story!

    2 years ago
  16. Have you guys seen this article about you on KpopStarz.com?


    2 years ago
    • It seems like they didn’t really bother to watch the whole vid, including all the positive stuff you guys were saying. The headline is quite melodramatic.

      2 years ago
  17. I’ve been listening to kpop for 3 years now and I absolutely love it, heaps more than american music. There are never the same genres and everything is easy to sing to and I love the dancing as well. Its just better :)

    2 years ago
  18. In my opinion, most of the Kpop in 2013 was underwhelming, but the year balances out to average due to a few outliers which were AWESOME.
    With my music taste, i didn’t like most songs, but Crooked and I Got a Boy were both amazing and are still some of the best Kpop songs I’ve heard. Others such as Growl, Sweet Dream, Miss Korea and both of GLAM’s songs (I Like That and In Front Of The Mirror) were also really good and leave me with a few fond memories of 2013 Kpop. :D

    2 years ago
  19. wow, youtube auto caption understands simon figuratively.

    2 years ago
  20. It’s funny. 2012 was the best year of my life, but 2013 was a really tough one. 2014 has been awesome so far and it promises to be quite a blast.
    I feel exactly the same way for Kpop: 2012 was fantastic. 2013 was not a terrible year, it had some good stuff, but it left a lot to be desired. Come to me 2014, with your sexy jazzy sound, mature pop-rock and creative videos! And please don’t debut too many groups, my head is spinning.

    2 years ago
  21. whether it was bette or worse, i’m not sure– but i certainly haven’t been listening to anything ‘new’ since this time last year…. idk it could be laziness or crappy music or both.
    i want me some kitty cuddles :(

    2 years ago
  22. I’m relatively new to kpop: less than a year. So, it’s probably fair to say that I’m most familiar with kpop from 2013, BUT I did my research on previous kpop. I went to Wikipedia (just wait, don’t discount me yet) and found a list of as many Korean artists as possible. I searched all the 1st generation idols all the way through to the 2013 debuts. I listened to a few songs of each to decided if I liked them, and then pursued more of their music depending on how I found it.
    My personal conclusion is that there are gems of kpop artists in each generation, but there’s also a lot of stuff I absolutely hate. I haven’t found any year particularly standout because for all the good stuff I see, I also see an equal, if not larger, amount of stuff I don’t like.
    Side note: there is even better music outside the kpop industry. I’ve fallen in love with so many Korean hip-hop artists, it’s insane.

    2 years ago
    • Well, I enjoy the idol groups with hip-hop influence, but outside of the idol industry, I’m particularly partial to Phantom, San E, Bizniz, CB Mass (and Dynamic Duo and their individual work), Bumkey, Kasper, Verbal Jint, Ugly Duck. There are more that I follow, but those ones are my favourite.
      Hmm, SHINee’s Replay… I have conflicted feelings about that song. I enjoy the vocals and it can be fun to sing along to, but overall that pop/rnb sound isn’t for me.

      2 years ago
  23. Martina 짱! xD I totally agree with you on the what is sexy bit. To be honest , I haven’t really been checking out MVS last year, but based on the ones you reviewed I’d say yes, it wasn’t a very good year for Kpop.

    I’ve been listening to Kpop since I was 15-16 ish, before that it was predominantly Jpop. The funny thing is that now that I’m doing Korean studies at university , I’m starting to move away from Kpop a bit regardless of the phenomenon as a whole . Maybe it’s because Korean popular culture is an unavoidable topic when learning the language and in lectures and I need a breather from time to time .

    Anyway, I really like ‘Mr. Mr.’ ! The video seems random in parts (the parking lot scene included) but I like how they’re trying for something edgier that can’t be classified as ‘sexy'(as in , skimpy clothes sexy), ‘cutesy’ or ‘tough’. Definitely one of the better songs to start the year with .

    2 years ago
  24. Personally, I’ve only been a kpop fans since around this time last year, so I can’t really speak about good or bad years. I think that as music is changing with time there have to be some failures as companies try things out and experiment with concepts and such. Maybe this year will be better!
    With the album, there were a few songs that I absolutely loved – wait a minute and goodbye (even though the line “really really good goodbye” is a bit so-so). I think you guys could have maybe talked about the album a bit more because some of the songs are quite good.
    I so agree with the fact that the mv was shoddily edited. It seemed as if they were cutting to a different person every second and it was a bit confusing for me. Awesome song though!
    Thank you for the epic nastiness!

    2 years ago
  25. Soozee should definitely start doing that part for SNSD songs. Their English segments will always be great because they literally have two west coast Americans in the group. For the best that we give other groups a chance to fit into the rankings. Truth be told, Tiffany definitely has a noticeable accent, so I sort of wonder what the outside view is in Korea about her Korean pronunciation.

    About the song, overall I thought it was a great track, but the early parts did not really pull me in as their other songs have. I am obviously glad they didn’t add any silly rap segments or intros, because that was really the only thing I didn’t like about I Got a Boy (and everything I didn’t like about The Boys). I’m also glad they at least somewhat simplified the dancing. Ever since Paprazzi, their choreography has gotten ridiculously complex, which almost always leads to lip-syncing in live concerts. It became really hard to try and imitate their dances!

    I do agree that there was something of a story in that video that was hopelessly lost somewhere in the editing room. It seemed like there was a lot going on, and there was enough of a set and props to do something, but ultimately ended up being incredibly brief clips of the dude, and weird images of random jewels hanging about. They could’ve done a lot more with their crazy diamond-encrusted heart and the transplant that was to follow. Saturation filters and flares were definitely J.J. Abrams’ level, only not executed as well. Black and white filters are at least classy and fit with the stylish suits and hats in the dance segment.

    2 years ago
  26. Though I joined the fandom in late 2012, I too have felt that 2013 was a bit lacking in general. Already this year, I’m far more excited about the songs and stage performances than I was at any point last year. 2014 is shaping up to be fabulous in k-pop!

    2 years ago
  27. Martina ~ I am totally with you about the sexiness concept!!!!!!!!!! I also think that I’m slowly starting to fall in love with the song, I think. I much prefer the older SNSD sound with songs like Hoot and 힘 내! (Way to Go). That said, I am glad that this song is a HUGE step-up from the messiness of I Gotta Boy.

    I’ve been listening to K-pop since 2011, and I think that 2013 was a sort of average year, but with some stand out songs/groups becoming popular. I think that part of what is hurting K-pop is there are too many new groups debuting and it’s not really sustainable. It’s just too much.

    2 years ago
  28. Awh, Simon didn’t feel too good :/
    But THANK YOU for saying that normal dressed clothes with confidence is so much more sexy than half naked people showing off their very well shaped bodies. I remember earlier you said that it seemed a lot of girl groups now in 2014 had decided to play it very sexy in their mv’s. Let’s cross fingers that Girl’s Generation will reverse that trend a bit this year. So much more hot to look at I think ^^
    And Soozee says some really interesting things here about the Korean. Maybe it’s not the englsih in kpop that is cheesy and have weird placed words in their sentences… Maybe it’s KPOP ITSELF! *Uh-oh* I’m outta here!

    2 years ago
  29. i’m not an avid kpop listener. i drift from language to language lol. i’m ethnic chinese so basically i grew up listening to mandarin pop till the early 90s where spice girls and backstreet boys were popular and i switched to listening to mainstream US/UK music.

    during the late 90s, i started listening to jpop A LOT, so hooked on it that i would even buy music score magazines like utabon so i could rock to the songs with my guitar lol. at that time i listened to a little bit of kpop, but not much since i dont understand the language at all unlike the others. the only korean CD i bought then was JuJu Club’s 16/20. i lost the CD somehow (after moving multiple times) but i am glad there’s youtube where i can still find their songs lol.

    i stuck with jpop until the mid 2000s and started listening to heavy metal LOL, yes i am weird. nightwish was my go to band until the late 2000s i started listening to electronic. my 1st “present day” kpop experience was 2ne1, because their videos would always popup on youtube’s homepage. so i gave it a try. till now, they are still the kpop group i would listen to the most, besides the other electronic music i listen to.

    i came across simon and martina’s video because i was searching for 2ne1 and found their KMM reviews. so now i watch EYK videos because its entertaining, not because i want to know anything about kpop or korea for that matter. none the less, i like to eat korean food LOL.

    2 years ago
  30. which is funny because in reality, there were more rookie groups that debuted in 2012.. but only by like, 10. still more though.

    2 years ago
    • Really?? I felt like there were more in 2013? maybe i just didn’t like what they were putting out and it felt like everyone and their mother were put in a group. idk

      2 years ago
      • which is funny, cause I thought the complete opposite ahahahah. I think it’s because if I find a group I like from their debut song, I’ll stick around for them and any i didn’t like I forget about them completely. that’s why all the 2013 rookies I remember/liked are BTS, Ladies Code, Alphabat, BESTie…. i think that’s it… maybe another ahahaha. So when Soompi had their yearly round-up rookie debut videos… I was like “oh weren’t there like 15 new groups in total or something?” and then found out that there were 32 girl groups that debuted last year…. just GIRL GROUPS!

        2 years ago
  31. PPS: I got into KPOP in 2010/2011, so I find it hard to tell whether KPOP has gone down in quality or KPOP has just lost it’s original “OMG OPPA SO HAWT” factor as I’ve seen it a lot before. I suppose it would be hard to create new MVs/songs that are “new” but still have the same “Kpop feel” to them. I have noticed that in the past year I have been listening to K-indie more than KPOP, so maybe 2013 wasn’t a good year for KPOP -confuzzled mindset-

    2 years ago
  32. And woah Martina, that point about the sexy concepts, SPOT ON! -pats you on the back-

    2 years ago
  33. Omg, died laughing at this KMM. You made some really good points overall, makes me think about KPOP 2013, herm… Anywho, well done guys, I appreciate the time you guys take to make these videos >~< ALSO, are you going to continue doing K-indie segments?? I love them :3

    2 years ago

    I got into kpop in September of 2012, I remember it very
    clearly because my first MV was Sherlock sometime in the summer, and then a few
    months later the same person showed me Lucifer and that’s what got me. The
    shawols were talking about how they wanted so many views before Key’s birthday,
    so I remember almost exactly when I got hooked. I think I’d agree that 2013
    wasn’t the best year. I thought 2012 was phenomenal, probably because of Bigbang’s
    onslaught of releases, with SHINee’s huge comeback in Sherlock and Super Junior
    with Sexy Free and Single and Spy. 2013 just seemed like the year that everyone
    tried to be too different. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to stand out and
    make a name for yourself, especially in this industry where everyone seems the
    same at first glance, but it was too much. A lot of great artists came out of
    it, but I feel like I would appreciate them more if they were more spread out,
    like if I had time to process each of their comebacks instead of feeling like I
    have to keep up and then neglect other artists. I think another reason why it
    didn’t feel the same is because a lot of the huge kpop giants didn’t make much
    of an appearance. Super Junior, TVXQ, Bigbang, no releases. And while Bigbang
    did have a ton of amazing solo work, it wasn’t the same as the full group and I
    honestly feel like I’m on a bit of withdrawal from the huge success of
    Fantastic Baby, Blue, Bad Boy and Monster. SNSD released one song on the first
    day of the year, and didn’t make a comeback until now. SHINee had a great year
    as far as promotions go, and they worked their butts off, but my favorite song
    from them was Dream Girl, and that wasn’t anything close to the way I feel
    about Sherlock, Lucifer and Juliette. I liked Everybody, but at the same time I
    felt like the dubstep thing was already overdone by then. I do really like most
    of the newer groups that are coming out because they are all such talented
    people. And not to say that nothing good happened in 13, Teen Top had a great
    year, and many of the onslaught rookies actually made it out of the brawl for
    best rookie to make a reputation for themselves, BTOB, VIXX, BAP, EXO (Maybe
    2012 shouldn’t be called the year of the rookies, and instead the year of the
    caps lock). Also BTS has become the first group I’ve followed and loved since
    Day 1, so that was another plus.

    However, the groups I
    talk about with different people change depending on the person. If it’s
    someone that is extremely close minded, and only sees kpop as that annoying Psy
    guy, then I try to share my interest in it through groups that aren’t so
    pop-ish and “annoying”, such as BAP, Block B, BTS (granted these are all
    Khip-hop ish groups but they help me convince people that I’m not a weirdo
    who’s obsessed with Asian people who all look and sound the same, I’m just a
    normal fangirl weirdo). And then I have my closer friends who accept my love
    for kpop, and are willing to give anything a try as long as I don’t avalanche
    it upon them. For those friends I’m more than happy to make the first group I
    show them Super Junior or SNSD, because it’s those kinds of groups that got me
    hooked and I want them to at least experience it the way I did, not through the
    viralness Gangnam Style but through hours of scouring through one suggested
    video after another on YouTube. Back when I started kpop in 2012, it was all SM
    and YG and I don’t consider that a bad thing, because those companies are
    successful for a reason. They put out good music and that was what kickstarted
    my obsession.

    ALSO. I’m a Nasty~ out to defend S&M here…

    HEY, maybe why all y’alls complaining about the kpop music
    Mondays going downhill, is because kpop itself hasn’t been putting out the most
    kpop-ish material. Sure, there’s good music in there, I myself am really liking
    this kind of hilarious hip hop trend that’s taking over, but doesn’t anyone
    else notice a pattern to KMM? The best music Mondays that come out are the ones
    that review older more popular groups, or even newer groups, but they embrace
    the strange language of kpop (because really, kpop isn’t even a genre, it’s an
    entirely different universe). Besides the kpop giants of SM and YG getting me
    hooked on kpop, it was KMM. I spent an entire week of my summer break watching
    all the EYK videos because I was introduced to so much kpop, so much GOOD kpop
    through it all and I couldn’t get enough (and I also couldn’t stop laughing my
    ass off). It was right up through the end of 2012 where I found the best music
    Mondays and the best music, because just look at the songs they were reviewing.
    Miss A, 2NE1, SHINee, MBLAQ, Bigbang, 2PM, Batoost, UKISS, KARA, T-ara, and the
    old SNSD, and this is just what’s off the oldest page of KMM. I’m not saying
    other groups are necessarily bad, but when I want to get hit real hard with
    some nostalgia all I have to do is pull up a MV of Super Junior sporting the
    Korean version of a mullet. You know what I’m saying? I don’t necessarily want
    kpop to stop progressing forward, but I also really don’t want it to forget
    where it came from, even if I’m just a young fan myself.

    I really wish I had discovered kpop years ago. Thank you
    S&M for bringing it to a clueless girl in Iowa who tries too hard to be an individual.

    2 years ago
  35. It is ok SooZee, their Japanese lyrics in “Paparazzi” and “Flower Power” make almost no sense either.

    2 years ago
  36. I’ve been listening to Kpop since 2002 (omg I feel old), but after Baby VOX’s heyday, I kinda fell out of it. I got bored. Then, I came back to it in 2007 with Big Bang and the like. I was definitely bored with 2013. I kinda gave up hope, like “maybe I don’t like this anymore” but I feel myself getting back into it. I just don’t like 90% of the groups that debuted after 2009, so it’s difficult.

    2 years ago
  37. Hey! I finally like a Girls Generation song. I’ve tried but they’ve never been my cup of tea. Anywho, it was a good song that I wouldn’t mind hearing being played.

    Lol, lol, lol, to your J.J. Abrams jab! First thing I thought when I saw the lens flare pic.

    2013 Kpop question: I feel like 2013 had some good songs, I have list of at least ten songs I loved, but overall most of the music felt like a blur of repetitiveness. Last year I tended to find favor in soloist more than groups, this especially goes for the rookies. I probably spent more time and money downloading older songs that I failed to never hear before like SHINee’s Reply (yes I was living under a rock apparently well I do live in a basement, same thing).

    Personally I don’t like that many companies are trying Americanize or Westernize kpop. There is the natural blend that kpop has always had, being inspired by western music, but held it’s own sound and style. Lately they’ve been over stepping that line and it isn’t to my liking. If that’s what I wanted to listen to or watch I’d listen to the music here in the US.

    Thinking about it now, I’m a bit nostalgic for how it was when I first found kpop in 2010, with Boys Over Flowers and SS501. Also 2011, when I really delved into it and embraced the genre.

    2 years ago
  38. I’d like to add that I think Pepermint Chocolate is a perfect Kpop song! I love that and the mv. Why isn’t that more popular one wonders….Simon..I agree w u about 30 Sexy…to me this is in that category. Have I lost my mind? Have I no sense of rhythm ? I think not!

    2 years ago
  39. I’ve been a fan of kpop since 2007 – one of the many that was introduced through DBSK and then stayed for the long run. I will say that the kpop I started getting into is very different from the kpop that’s around now, and I don’t think there’s any particular era I could describe as a “golden era.” When I first got into kpop I loved DBSK, Big Bang’s hip hop style, and Super Junior’s stuff. When Big Bang started changing style around the time they released Haru Haru, I didn’t know how I felt about it because I loved their fun hip hop style so much, and while their more alternative sound was nice it wasn’t Big Bang for me. Eventually, I’ve grown to love their current stuff as a group, and although I loved their old stuff too I consider it like different time periods of goodness. With TVXQ, I loved them before, but when they came back as a duo I loved them even more and how they come up with interesting dances and play a lot with different genres on their albums. I also eventually fell for U-Kiss (especially Neverland and beyond) and lots of other groups like SHINee, EXO, 2PM, B2ST, etc etc. With the newer groups come newer sounds and styles, and with how pop music has been changing, different things like dub step become popular. So I feel that while kpop is different than what I started listening to, I always find comebacks I really enjoy and different styles of music that are fun. 2013 may not have been one of the greater years for kpop, but I don’t think it was necessarily one I would call weak either.

    And I also have to agree with Martina about her comments about what makes a group sexy. I have to admit, while I will listen music by some of the girl groups, I usually just don’t find their music videos interesting because I don’t like the sexy dancing/skimpy clothes. I know male groups sometimes show skin or do sexy dancing, but I feel overall they get to do more interesting dancing that shows more skill or style while girls are stuck with the sexy or cutesy concept. I love it when I get to see BoA proving her dance skills by dancing however she likes, or when Girls Generation dances like in this mv where they show more power or leave out the more sexualized choreography. Or just see girls look like they’re having fun, like in a lot of G.na’s mvs where she would smile and enjoy herself, or the backup dancers in TVXQ’s Spellbound that, while dressing a bit skimpy, also are smiling and dancing confidently in a way that makes the performance more enjoyable. I agree that confidence and skill seems more sexy than skimpy clothes or doing the same dance moves all the time and wish female groups had the opportunity to do that more often in their performances.

    2 years ago
  40. okay i totally have to agree with you guys -2013 kpop was suuuuuuuuupeeeeeeeeeeer dissapointing. I really started getting into kpop in 2012 (THE HOLY GLORY YEAR..BIGBANG, SHINEE, BAP ALL MADE CRAZY GOOD COMEBACKS) and I’d listened to a little kpop in the years before, so I definitely felt like 2013 didn’t compare to those years. and I definitely feel like 2NE1’s return to awesome originality (as opposed to the nappeun gizibe style….blegh) along with this song gives me hope for 2014 :D

    2 years ago