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September 2, 2014

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We’re back in the studio! Well, for a little bit. We’ve got another big event we’re doing in October (announcement video coming this week), but we’ve got a solid few weeks in the studio until then! And now we’re finally getting a chance to talk about some more Kpop videos, since we missed out on so many of them. Eep!

Well, today we talked about a couple of points that we’d like your input on. For starters:

Dark Kpop Videos

I feel like such an old timer when I talk about the kind of kpop videos that I like. So, I’d like to know what you think. Do you prefer fun, vibrant, colourful kpop videos, or do you prefer darker, greyer kpop videos? Do you prefer to see videos with people smiling and having fun, or videos of people looking angry, angsty, and sad? I don’t want to see kpop artists in pain, looking angry, yelling, banging their hands on walls, falling to the ground, throwing things, laying around moping. I’d like some more sparkle and shine please. I’ll take Orange Caramel’s videos in a heartbeat over Winner’s videos any day of the week. How about yourself? Or am I just framing the argument incorrectly?

Congratulations, Musicians!

It just dawned on me a week ago or so how often discussions of Kpop songs include talks about the artists helping in creating their own song, and mention this as a bonus quality. Isn’t that supposed to be…standard? Should I be congratulated for writing my own blog posts? How often are you congratulated for attending your own classes, or for picking out your own clothing? We’re congratulating musicians for doing what is standard around the world: what’s that a sign of?

Taemin

I have a feeling people will not be too happy about Taemin being SM’s G-Dragon. Yes, I know that there are very many differences between the two of them, and people can meticulously pick them out. We’re more thinking about it from an artistry perspective. The way GD has transcended Big Bang, even though Big Bang is a great group, I feel the same way about Taemin. We both love SHINee, and were totally amazed at how phenomenal they were in SMTown. But when we see Taemin he just clearly seems, to us, to be on a different level. Different artists in SM will do their own solo stuff from time to time, but those times looks like they’re just having fun. It doesn’t look that way with Taemin. With Taemin, it looks like he’s working his ass off to do something more.

I can’t explain it better, because I don’t know enough terminology for this. Any professional dancers out there know what we’re talking about? Our new web developer, Rose, is a semi-professional dancer, and she coincidentally loves Taemin, but we’re not sure if it’s because of his artistic flair or because he’s HAWT. Haven’t asked her yet. Should have asked her before writing this. Hmmm…

Anyhow, we’ve got some scenes that didn’t make the final cut. Check em out in the bloopers as well!

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  1. Are you guys doing another European tour? ;)

    Anyhow, my preference really varies. If the song is about something deep that really hits me, like Lee Michelle’s Without you, Gain’s fxxk u, I don’t mind dark songs. I do prefer upbeat songs though

    3 years ago
  2. Aw, I was really hoping you’d review Block B since I really thought their song and MV were super fun and colorful.
    Anyways, totally agree with you guys on Orange Caramel I was doing my best to count but it was so fun I got up and started dancing like a floppy chicken (terrible dancer -.-). Super fun and colorful and I really liked it since all the male boy bands were coming out with really dark concepts and all depressing. The only ones I think do dark well is VIXX although Winner’s song needed to be kinda depressing since their song is not upbeat at all… I liked Mino’s solo MV though, with the effects and the hilarious dance that they did XD.
    I seriously Lol’d at SuJu when Kangin’s watermelon fell and died! I loved their video, it had a follow-able plot and was really humorous. I liked their song Shirt more though since I though Mamacita lacked some form of climax but it was a good song overall.

    3 years ago
  3. “Super Junior “MAMACITA” MV feat. Simon and Martina’s Pet Sitter” :P

    That’s cool your friend was in the video, she has lovely hair.

    Anyway, I think being a singer doesn’t always mean they’re good at song-writing or composing. I guess some idols really are just performers, and others will be artists and performers. I would like to see more idols singing live and dancing more often (and don’t say it’s too hard, Ayumi Hamasaki sang live in concert and perfectly in tune and she was spinning and doing high kicks every chorus in those stiletto boots, so it can be done).

    If idols write their own songs I think people enjoy it more because it’s another way of getting to know them and for them to express their own feelings. I really like IU’s “Voicemail” and her collab with Jonghyun with “Gloomy Clock” (though I think it’s his song) because it’s their own experiences and people can relate to that more, I think, than to lyrics like “you joom joom my heart like a rocket.” (extreme example, sorry) At least that’s how I feel when I hear artists have written their songs..

    Great KMM btw, I really enjoyed it! :)

    3 years ago
  4. You made me realize how much I missed KMM!!! I was laughing from start to finish, esp on the part on reason to use a gun guitar… LOL! When Simon said “We want Onew!”… that was brilliant! Cuz that’s what some shawols are saying and it gets really frustrating… But you made that kind of fanwar super hilarious

    I love Taeman and I’m happy with your positive review! I dunno, I felt vindicated…

    3 years ago
  5. I do prefer fun and colors over all that sadness because to be honest I’m not depressed so I don’t really need so much boohoo but I’m wondering if you guys kinda missed out on block b’s her because both the MV and song were fun, really coulorfull and with an ostrich!
    Same goes for their previous song and MV jackpot with the circus theme, so I hope they kinda stay in that direction.
    And Taemin is awesome!

    3 years ago
  6. I totally agree with all your points made!!! ITS LIKE YOU READ MY MIND GRAPES!!!
    I came into Winner with an open mind. I didn’t watch them on their reality show and had no absolute idea about them except that they had a HUGE hype around their debut, which I guess is to be expected by the first boy group in years from YG. So when I finally heard they came out with 2 mv’s I was excited and fully expecting a bombastic, hand-banging song. Yet I was somewhat disappointed. Not to say the songs are bad, they’re great songs and would gladly listen to them again yet I felt like this probably wasn’t the right debut concept. Idk, I guess it wasn’t for me. I just feel like these guys have been waiting AGES to debut, that I wanted them to come out glorious and almighty and them all “YEAH WE CAN DO THIS” attitude which sadly I didn’t feel.

    In regards to kpop artists writing or contributing lyrics to their songs, I get why people are surprised and so easily ready to congratulate them, since in such a “fabricated” industry as Kpop it is somewhat rare. However, knowing that a certain someone wrote the lyrics for their title track (ie. Winner, Zico and others) doesn’t really affect me at all, it doesn’t change my views on the band or the song at all. I mean, I acknowledge the artists intent in the song but doesn’t mean that song is better than a song given to a group by the company. Writing their own lyrics doesn’t mean they worked harder than another group. That doesn’t mean I don’t disregard self composed song all together; on the contrary, I LOVE SHINee’s Symptoms written by Jonghyun but that doesn’t get me fist pumping like Sherlock does.

    MAMACITA was EXACTLY the type of song I was expecting from super Junior’s comeback and I’m so happy with both the song and MV. It was hilarious and just so… Super Junior! Although, tbh, when they say the line “ain’t got no chance” I legit though they were saying something like “buenos noches” which I didn’t mind since it was somewhat in context with the Spanish theme. Oh well, the songs fun

    I am a MAJOR SHAWOL. Minho is reason I got into kpop and eatyourkimchi. So I was fully anticipating Taemins solo debut and this song did not disappoint!!! I LOVED IT! I love the MJ feel, the amazing choreography and just how Taemin has changed from dimwitted Maknae to this whole new MAN. The MV was cool, albeit random but when you see Taemin dancing you just forget everything else and become absorbed with him! I’ve seen ppl complain about how Danger’s choreography isn’t intense or worthy enough of Taemin but I personally think it’s exactly Taemins style. He was never a hip hop dancer but a subtle sexy pop and locking type of guy. I’ve tried doing those hand moves that he does and I look like a baboon even trying. Each move is intricate but complicated and Taemin just makes everything look flawless- but this is coming from a non-dancer. Also, it’s totally cute how his members support him! One of my favourite songs of the year.

    Orange Caramel doesn’t disappoint ever.

    Anyway, missed you guys a bunch! I think I get more excited when your videos come out than I do with kpop MV’s! :p

    3 years ago
    • Exactly! Winner isn’t bad. Their songs aren’t bad. I just expected something totally different. Fun. Vibrant. Not sad. And I think my expectations are getting in the way.

      3 years ago
      • Even though it just ended in SK, Winner’s songs came out in summer and I don’t see why YGE didn’t use that to their advantage. Winner would have won me over if they had released an upbeat summer hip-hop anthem, something in the style of B2ST’s Beautiful Night . I wanted a song whose English lyrics I can shout out in the car alá Fantastic Baby! Or at least bob my head to. But I’ll just have to wait to see what they’ll bring to the table for their comeback next year, like you said, maybe my expectations are getting in the way.

        3 years ago
      • I totally understand you, but I don’t really agree with you, I can understand wanting to watch fun and colorful mv’s over dark and sad ones ’cause I sure love those too. But I do think there’s room for the glum ones too at least in my book there is :) Although all of this may have something to do with my excessive fangirling over winner, and the fact that I have seen them being fun and colorful numerous times so this dark concept is actually a change for me. I must admit though that despite my fangirling throughout the whole video, I did find it somewhat…. boring? like I love their faces so watching their faces for 3 minutes was to me a pleasure, but beyond that .. nothing really happened…
        I was wondering however if you’ve seen Mino-from winner-‘s solo song? I’m him? I know that that technically isn’t winner but just mino but it is pretty bombastic and colorful AND fun. So if you haven’t seen it I Sooooooooo recommend it!! :)
        Rant OVER.

        3 years ago
      • I agree, I expected something different from YG. Like Big Bang’s Lies or La La La or 2ne1’s lollipop , I kind of expected something catchier and less boring. But the songs are nicely sung, the concept is overrated though. Already seen a billion times. I like the angsty kpop feel, like in BTS (their choreography is the best idk what you are talking about-or maybe I’m biased) but only when it isn’t too overused)… BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH SIMON AND MARTINA FOR MUSIC MONDAY MY LIFE WAS GETTING TOO BORING!

        3 years ago
  7. On another note: I don’t really agree with you on songwriting being a standard. Celine Dion never did, Britney Spears rarely did, Rihanna rarely did, Beyoncé rarely did (even though she likes to pretend that she wrote all of the stuff she sings), Whitney Houston never did. (The word “did” from now and henceforth has now meaning to me at all)
    I’d rather like to think that actually SINGING is part of a singer’s job (strange isn’t it?) I get really queasy when people say that a choreography is a legimate reason to not sing live. NO IT IS NOT. If you are not able to sing and dance at the same time YOU ARE NOT TALENTED ENOUGH TO BE AN ENTERTAINER! PERIOD! I’d rather hear somebody breathe heavily into their mics and sing some foul notes than see some bitch on stage lip-synching their way through their set. UGH.

    3 years ago
    • I totally agree with the lipsyching thing, dance and sing – it’s not that hard, they only do like, 2-3 songs in a set most of the time! There can be slow songs for breaks. However, I will disagree with you slightly on Celine Dion. She started her career at age 13 (in French) and frankly, there are extremely few 13-year-old written love songs that I could stand to hear. Once she moved to English, she could sing it but it took her many years before she was comfortable speaking in English so she couldn’t have written her own songs then. I’m pretty sure she had lots of input to her French albums over the years and she has written songs for other French artists in her later years. Not that I’m defending writing your own songs or not as an artist but you shouldn’t stop writing great songs if you can’t sing and you shouldn’t stop singing just because you have no talent for poetry. It is definitely more impressive when the two talents come together though.

      3 years ago
      • I’ve looked up some credits on her most popular albums in French and English and she was just listed as a performer, neither as a songwriter or producer. I don’t know if she did participate in her other albums (and there are a ton of, like whoa nelly she brought out a lot of albums). I don’t want to offend anybody, I’m not really into her, but that does not mean I don’t respect her, her artistry, her work or vocal ability. I just didn’t see it on my quick research.

        I do agree it’s pretty impressive when a lot of talents come together though! There are a few people in the entertainment business who are a jack of all trades like Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake or Michael Jackson. I could literally ramble about those three for DAYS (I actually wrote a 12-page essay on Lady Gaga’s musical ability and artistry for school and got an A HELL YEAH)

        3 years ago
  8. Great to see a Music Monday after a long time. Really liked BTS’s ‘Danger’ not the MV, but the song and choreography. I expected it to be more edgy and less boring. Super Junior’s ‘Shirt’ is better than ‘Mamacita’. Didn’t like Winner’s stuff, way too gloomy for me. Orange Caramel as always is there to make everyone smile. Taemin is a great performer just found the face jewelry weird because Krystal from f(x) had it on in ‘Red Light’. Taemin’s ‘Pretty Boy’ is good song too.

    Upbeat kpop songs and sad ones are both good when they are not extreme. Sometimes both can be overwhelming. I watch and listen to kpop to find an escape and be happy for a couple of minutes or just enjoy an emotional song(OST or Ballad) when I need to relax, but depressing faces in an MV doesn’t help. An overly bubbly song and video don’t bring it home either.

    3 years ago
  9. Yay for the return of KMM!

    You guys have totally converted me to loving Orange Caramel by informing me about their awesome videos! And generally I agree that the trend of dark, angsty and sad k-pop videos is kind of boring. That said, I do, on occasion enjoy them. I think in some ways, it depends on the group (for instance, I’ll always say that dark and disturbed VIXX videos are my favourite VIXX videos), so generally I’m torn on the issue. I really do miss a weekly barrage ridiculous videos though.

    Also, I actually got really excited for Suju’s MAMACITA as soon as I learned that it has a ridiculous semi-plot to it, because it was FUN!

    Taemin’s solo was pretty much everything I expected from him, and I kind of agree with Simon. I’m not sure that he’s totally on a separate platform yet, but he’s definitely getting there.

    /my thoughts

    3 years ago
  10. I kind of relate to you concerning that angsty k-pop stuff that almost always comes from boy bands exclusively. I just really don’t like this marketing at all, it reminds me a lot of those people who repeatedly pity themselves all day long, I ain’t got no time for that BS. I don’t think you have to be emo to have a “darker” concept. Taemin’s video is a perfect example. Damn that’s one good song & video, if I was a singer that would be my go-to aesthetic tbh…
    Also: HOLY FUCKING BATPIGSHIT ORANGE CARAMEL!!!!! ORANGE FUCKING CARAMEL!!!!!! HOW IS THAT SONG NOT NUMBER ONE IN EVERY FUCKING CHART WORLDWIDE IT’S NOT EVEN TOP 10 IN KOREA ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

    3 years ago
  11. Been a while since Music Mondays.. i love big bang, GD and TOP more but of late, BTS has been stealing my attention… in my opinion, BTS has raised the benchmark on choreo… I got hooked to their music and their style because of their choreo.. if you can just go through their practice videos, you’ll realize that their squeaky clean moves, intricate as they maybe – is just OMG! I really wanna know who’s their choreographer? He’s doing a fine job… As for Winner, their MV initially didn’t make an impact – now i realize, the song is great for listening… just listening, it eventually grows on you through an MP3! Their dark and mopey song did take a lot of ppl. by surprise… but I think they want to position themselves a little differently… than their.. err… sunbaenims! i look forward to the IKONs… the next group to debut from YG kingdom! Taemin’s teaser got me all excited… the song and the MV felt ok, didn’t overwhelm me – maybe i just didn’t know what to expect! Thanks S&M for the reviews… pls. watch out for BTS – that group’s gonna go places, I just know it!

    3 years ago
  12. I just want to comment on your “congratulations for co-writing your own songs”. Yes it is a wildly known and accepted fact, that a lot of pop music isn’t sung or performed by the writer him or herself, BUT in many ways the acceptance of the fact is really sad. Music is an art of expression created by humans, and expression happens when a person gets to convey his or her feelings or thoughts. By accepting that pop is a genre in which it isn’t ‘special’ to be the composer or lyricist, we limit the people who actually WANT to say something through pop, because pop is regarded as not really holding much meaning.

    Second of all, I think it is absolutely in its place to congratulate WINNER for composing, because most companies either don’t allow it if it doesn’t fit the concept they find the most selling or if the idols simply don’t possess the ability to compose a song.
    I think it is worth congratulating, because some of the members of WINNER just went from performers to artists in my opinion, and that is (from observation) what many people are missing. A person behind the music, and not just a puppet controlled by a company. That was what got me out of k-pop – it was way too manufactured for me.
    Art is a product of human creativity, a creation, an artist is someone who creates. I want to see art, (though it can definitely be discussed whether one considers WINNER’s songs art, I guess), not necessarily performers who have no say in the work they’re doing.

    Now, I am not criticizing k-pop as a general genre, but when something more earthbound, less manufactured or something that doesn’t remind me of a bunch of values I don’t agree with the least bit is needed, I wouldn’t turn to k-pop. But for those who would, it probably feels nice to hear something genuine. Kind of the same reason that AKMU got so popular. :-)

    3 years ago
  13. Thank goodness the English article in Super Junior’s MV was actual readable English, unlike SHINee’s Sherlock. SME must have watched your KMM and gotten the message;)

    3 years ago
    • Fun fact about it: our friend who acted in the video also wrote the English article…IN OUR CAFE!

      3 years ago
      • By any chance did she also give Siwon the name “Sheriff Jorge De La Cruz?” I’ve decided that it’s the perfect name for him and have been calling him that since the MV came out. :-P

        3 years ago
      • It can’t be?! The connection is too uncanny!! MIND BLOWN!!!!

        3 years ago
  14. Well… did you like BTS’ new song?

    You didn’t say anything about it… :(

    3 years ago
  15. You guys didn’t say whether you liked BTS’ Danger as a song! What did you think of it? :)

    3 years ago
  16. Yay! Kpop Music Monday/Tuesday! Woo! ^_^
    Glad y’all are back from your trip!
    On to business! That Orange Caramel song was the best one on the list! So damn catchy! That’s the good part. The bad part; I didn’t care for Taemin’s solo or Super Junior’s new song. Like at all. Though the Engrish in the SuJu song was amazing as usual (shut your tongue. What even…? lol!).
    I can see what Simon was saying about Taemin being SM’s G-Dragon. And I’m not really into it. :( Like, I see him, and immediately think, “Hmm. Something’s missing…. Oh yeah! The other members of Shinee.” I haven’t separated him from the group yet in my head. So it’s like seeing a cub separated from the pack. ^_^; I suppose just like with GD, I’ll get used to seeing him by himself.

    3 years ago
  17. I love that Orange Caramel continually defy the stereotypical Kpop image and forge ahead with such daring originality and do it so well, their concepts are so well thought out and executed they put everyone else to shame, I mean who else would have an interactive music video?
    To anyone who’s a fan also check out their KBS Music Bank comeback stage which was also well thought out and included audience participation.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x249ymq_140822-music-bank-orange-caramel-my-copycat_music

    3 years ago
  18. This had me in stitches :3 I was wondering what you guys thought about Red Velvet’s debut though, I was grateful just to have something a little on the sunny side from sm

    3 years ago
  19. One of the odd things about idols is that although music is their nominal raison d’etre they’re not usually musicians. So I think that’s why they get praised when they do take part in creating and not just performing. My two cents anyway.

    3 years ago
  20. I honestly don’t care about the concept as long as the song’s good, however I can appreciate a video more if it matches the song, however I think that more thought could go into them sometimes. If OC did a song about a relative dying or a terrible breakup and then had the game theme, that’s just confusing and vice versa. I DO think OC had the best video (who wouldn’t love that game theme???) However I think BTS had the best song on the list, even though I love all of the songs here, BTS’s “Danger” just hit me the most.

    3 years ago
  21. I dont always prefer sad songs but i often love them the most and those are often the songs i will still listen to in a few years. And you can often see the talents of each member better than in those fast pop songs. I think winners debut was perfect because it was so different. There are nearly no groups debuting with sad and serious songs so that set them apart. And that they participated in the writing and composing of the album is a great bonus since it is in fact unusual in the kpop world. There just arent that many people taking part in their album and there never really are rookies so the fact that winner has a feeling for this and enough confidence to do this makes them in my eyes special.

    3 years ago
    • I forgot to mention that i really really dont like Taemins song :( First you cant really hear his voice in the beginning and during the lines (how can i say afterwards that he has improved when i cant even really hear his voice?) and the chorus is not really well done in my opinion. And this climate is quite weird… Furthermore his dance did disappoint me? Like, he can dance so much better but the choreo didnt allow it. It is surely not an easy choreo but to me absoutly underwhelming

      3 years ago
  22. Personally I don’t agree at all with the dichotomy of fun and upbeat Kpop vs. dark and moody Kpop. I like Kpop songs because I think they sound good, not because they depict a certain mood. Sure, you may be more likely to side with a more happy or a more moody Kpop sound one day, and a different mood on another day, but I don’t think it’s correct to pitch the two against each other. I think it’s silly to create a split between Kpop this way and strictly prefer one category over another.

    Dark and moody Kpop songs can be equally as enjoyable to me as happy, upbeat Kpop songs. Of course dark, moody Kpop songs can’t have fun, colourful music videos since that kind of aesthetic doesn’t compliment the sound, but it’s not like you can’t enjoy a Kpop song and/or mv just because it’s a bit dark and moody. It’s great to enjoy fun Kpop songs/mvs and want to be happy and dance along with them, but it’s wrong to hate on darker, more angsty Kpop just because they don’t depict only happy and upbeat emotions.

    On a different, but related note, dark and moody Kpop can be extremely fun and enjoyable too because in lots of cases, Kpop totally overdoes the sad/moody/angsty/angry and it treads into ‘totally overdramatic’ territory, in which case, it’s totally fun to mock and poke fun at the songs and/or MVs, especially when you’re with friends singing in the car or at karaoke or something. :P

    3 years ago
  23. Well, wouldn’t it be a bit odd to have people happy and dancing when a song is sad?
    Not every song is going to be about happy fun things.
    If a song is about a break up or a difficult time in your life the MV should obviously reflect that.
    If your life is a non stop party then those sorts of songs and MVs aren’t for you but some people find comfort in feeling like they aren’t the only ones feeling a certain way.
    If Kpop only did bubble gum happy music it would be extremely limiting.

    3 years ago
  24. I totally get where you guys are coming from with the angst songs. I personally have no problem with them It’s depending on the song and the feel. I do think that having it just be someone looking really sad into the camera or punching things can be a bit monotonous, though in kpop monotony is what they do. And it’s not your guys’ style which is fine. I didn’t check out Winner’s mvs after Empty since it really bored me,
    Other people have said it with idols producing or writing their own lyrics. I give them credit cause it’s not easy and majority sometimes don’t get the chance/won’t take it. I respect the ones that do, but it won’t make me like the songs more. I am one of those people who are super chill with the fact that I won’t be getting a song that my “oppas” wrote/made themselves. A good song/performance is a good performance.

    3 years ago
  25. Love your video guys! <3 loved this weeks video :)

    3 years ago
  26. Hoo boy, you guys really outdid yourself in this video! I was in tears the whole time :’D

    3 years ago
  27. I see what you mean about Taemin. At first I was really reluctant to be excited about Taemin’s solo debut because I am a huge Shawol and I was really worried that SHINee were going to have a Hyuna/ 4minute (aka Hyuna and her back-up dancers) situation. But when I saw the video, I kind of got why he needed to have his own time. He’s a phenomenal performer and its good to see him go all out. I still think he’s an integral part of SHINee as a unit and I would hate to see SHINee become insignificant in front of Taemin’s solo (or rather for SM to make it that way, the way Cube is doing it with Hyuna). I really really hope that doesn’t happen. SHINee are a great act and I wouldn’t want them to change that.

    BTW the ‘Shut your tongue’ thing: I watched the video and the second I saw that part I was like “Simon and Martina are going to try and fold their tongues on camera” :P

    3 years ago
    • For SM it’s always been their group as a whole over the individual so I wouldn’t worry about SHINee become “Taemin & the others” besides Taemin himself says SHINee as a group still have a lot to show and we should anticipate what they’ll do in the future :)

      3 years ago
      • I hope you’re right :) I would hate for SHINee’s dynamic to change and that in turn to affect their music and performance.

        3 years ago
  28. ent

    That lounging around scene was… super depressing. I also tend to love songs with a beat I can dance and not as many sad songs unless they’re from a drama soundtrack. I don’t mind sad songs but a lot of the recent ones seem to me like they’ve been made through some sort of formula and as you said justplain emo. KCM-Smile Again is one of my favorite sad/upbeat song but pretty underrated. There’s some great original G.O.D songs are great sad songs. Growing up in the 90’s, half my favorite kpop songs come from that era so maybe I’m too biased. :)

    My husband and I will be in Korea in less than a week and staying on vacation for a month and a half. So much to do, so much to see! I know you’ll be in Europe? In October so hopefully you guys will be at the you are here cafe when we visit during September. Any set days of the week the crew will be there?

    3 years ago
  29. 1. MARTINA YOU HAVE THE MARIO PIRANHA FLOWER EARRINGSS AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH /so jealous ლ(ٱ٥ٱლ)

    2. I like sad songs. I naturally prefer them over happy songs; I can sympathise with them better, since I’m depressed and all. I’m emo like that. Why do you think Linkin Park and Epik High are my favourite bands lol :p

    3. Say Hi to Rooooseeee I’m a big fan!! I see an Edit function? Yay?

    3 years ago
    • Case in point: This is my favourite Birthday song:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPYfbVHEb2g

      Another case in point, I requested Philtre & Younha’s song Fade, which you bagged out for being overly emo. WHATS WRONG WITH EMO I LIKE EMO EMO IS THE BESTTTTT (∿°○°)∿ ︵ ǝʌol

      Also, Lucas’ Pawpaw Ointment is awesome.

      3 years ago
    • Yeah! But we’re not sure about the edit function. Does it work for everyone’s comments, or do just moderators see it?

      3 years ago
      • Wait; the Edit function is only on Kpop Chart video pages.

        I can use it for both my comments and other users too; so it must be a mod thing.

        It’s not present on normal blog pages, though.

        3 years ago
      • Hmm actually I don’t see it anymore. Nevermind.
        It was there yesterday, but it redirected to the wp mod page, so maybe it was just a mod thing?
        I’m sure it wouldn’t redirect for normal users…maybe I should’ve tried out my other non-mod account huh

        3 years ago
  30. Can you guys do a segment on Korean rap? I noticed the program “Show Me the Money 3” has been a hit in the Korean society these days. If you guys could do a segment on KMM about hip hop/rap labels/artists (ex. 1llionaire, Swings, San E) and maybe some of the underground labels – a lot of them are based in Hongdae, that would be awesome. Thanks.

    3 years ago
  31. I am going to buy new furniture and chastise people for sitting on them correctly.

    3 years ago
  32. I think Spudgy would love Winner’s dance in Mino’s solo MV “I’m Him.” The MV was visually stimulating and creative with the lyrics, even though the MV had many dark settings. ^-^

    3 years ago
    • Oh, and even though there were some thing I disagreed with, I REALLY enjoyed this KMM! :)

      3 years ago
  33. I completely agree with you guys about taemin and the comparison with G Dragon! Even though I’m only sort of new to kpop and havnt really paid a huge attention to taemin they’d very first time I saw danger you could just see that he was really something else… He had so much style and confidence in what he was and what he was doing which I havnt seen in many kpop idols besides G Dragon. Awesome KMM! Definitely worth waiting a few weeks for!

    3 years ago
  34. I think the problem with a lot of companies in K-pop is that once they see a certain concept done by an artist that works well, they do not hesitate to jump on the bandwagon and as a result, a lot of groups end up coming out with the same thing because their companies think that, “This is the trend, let’s go with this and nothing else,” and so begins the trend of dark K-pop videos. This is probably what makes Orange Caramel so unique. They’ve managed to create a concept that only they themselves can pull-off regardless of season and/or current trend.

    Personally, I think it’s great that WINNER’s debut is unlike the usual bang-bang-pow debut that recent boy groups have been doing eg. BAP, Block B. However the song, although pleasant, is a little boring. There’s a huge number of ballads out there that are ‘wow’ despite being slow tempo, but ‘Empty’ doesn’t really have that needed ‘ummph’. I guess the reason why they’re being praised for writing their own songs is because K-pop idols are usually marketed in a models-that-model-clothes kind of way. Nobody really expects them to write their own songs because they’re just seen as idols-that-just-perform. Another reason is probably due to the fact that it is extremely rare for a new group to be able to compose their own debut tracks. So when fans congratulate them, it’s more of a, “Congratulations on being able to have your own self-composed track in your debut album.”

    Now on to Taemin! I was dancing for a decade before real life kicked in and I can safely say that Taemin is the best male dancer in K-pop (BoA and Kahi are way above him though). He’s kind of like the male version of Kim Yuna in the K-pop industry. The reason Yuna is hailed as Queen is because she’s the whole package: talent, physique, technique, artistry, humility, star quality. The same goes for Taemin, which is why he’s like on a whole other level. Jay Park is a great dancer but his moves don’t seem as fluid as Taemin because of his muscular physique. Taemin’s skinny body is a great visual aid when he dances. He has great control over his body and has great understanding of how it moves in certain places, which is what makes him such a great dancer. It also helps that he has grown up to be a heartthrob, haha!

    This is officially the longest comment I’ve ever posted on anything, lol.

    3 years ago
  35. I’m so happy for this KMM! Missed this segment a lot~

    and i never say stuff like “please review …”, but this is an exception. I think it would be awesome if you would review WINNER’s “I’m him” (Mino’s solo). That video (and song) are Dope! If you don’t review it, I just hope you at least watch it! ^w^

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQnAL-f2grI

    3 years ago
  36. About ‘congratulating musicians for writing their own music’ Re: Pop music and in particular, K-pop… it’s often forgotten that these groups aren’t really meant to be musicians so much as idols. They’re supposed to be entertainers rather than people who truly express themselves via their music the way we Western-raised folk especially usually think when we hear the word ‘musician.’ So, when we get idols who actually want to partake in the creation of their music, that’s when they go from being just an idol to actually being an artist. Showing your colors as an artist, to me, is definitely something deserving of praise, but you’re on the nose about the argument that self-written or self-composed music isn’t necessarily ‘better’ by default. It’s great that they’re taking an interest in their craft and it’s truly admirable to put yourself out there in an industry that focuses so much on polish and perfection, but unfortunately that doesn’t always lead to better music that sells well, as in unfortunately the case with HA:TFELT’s entire mini album, which was all self-composed and yet not appealing to the general public, and therefore, a sales flop even if an artistic triumph. (And all of this isn’t to say that vocalists who don’t write their own music don’t have an artistry of their own, either!)

    I’m definitely down to see more idols branching out into creating their own music rather than recording what’s given to them, but in the end, if a song is good, then I can enjoy it for all aspects– the idols who recorded and performed it, the producers, composers and lyricists who put the song together, the choreographers who created the dance, and even the coordis and people involved with coming up with the song’s concept! Sometimes it takes more than one pair of hands to create the perfectly crafted pop songs we and the general public crave.

    There’s also time constraints… idols are kept so busy because they’re expected to release a certain amount of music within a year, promote on so many shows, and have other activities to help promote the group/song/album of the moment. If a group that hasn’t carved out their place in the industry disappears for a year the way a lot of the big company’s most popular groups do in order to self-compose their album, it’s likely they’ll lose all traction that may have been built with their last comeback. While artists in the Western world, especially, can disappear for 3 years writing their next album, in K-pop that’s practically unheard of.

    So all in all, I do think it’s fair to praise the idols who do take an active part in shaping their own music in the K-pop industry, and especially in cases like WINNER’s where the song is very well-received. (And this is coming from someone who doesn’t even LIKE the song, haha!)

    3 years ago
  37. I have to agree about the lack of colourfulness lately! But man – Taeminnie’s song is the best! Anyway, great to see you back – I feel like it’s been ages!^^

    Ps. Are you taking answers to your Where’s Wally (that’s what we can him in Australia) challenge? [Fangurilla can be spotted on top of the left speaker and on the red phone box]

    3 years ago
    • Hahahahaha. I didn’t think people would actually look for Fangurilla :D

      3 years ago
      • Of course! I may have done all the games in the Orange Caramel video too…

        Hope I didn’t spoil it for everyone else though. No one reads the comments first though, right?

        3 years ago
  38. I like dark kpop videos more. Not sure if it’s because I’m bat shit insane, or that I find uber cheery music too annoying. I cannot do uber cheery anymore. Listening to my brothers cheery Christmas songs, Barney, and Wiggles many years ago has caused me to rehect uber happy things.

    However, I draw the line at kpop mvs where it’s nothing but sad moping or a lot of angst. Dark kpop mvs give out raw passion or raw emotions. But seriously, if its a dark mv and there’s sad moping, it’s just a waste of great scenery/imagery. I don’t want to see this great scenery/imagery go towards angsty stuff.

    Hey, can we get a July Kpop Music blog post or video? I think a lot of us want opinions on mvs and songs such as Red Velvet, Hyuna, JYJ, and a few more bands that I can’t name at the moment because my brain is asleep.

    3 years ago
    • I have similar opinions regarding the dark K-pop videos. I love them and when I see that a group is doing one I am instantly excited but if it gets to the video and it is just a bunch of moping around sluggishness then I get so bored. I may still really enjoy the song but I will never think about the video again. I probably won’t even finish it. I need some movement and action. If there isn’t some motion might as well just do a photo collage instead of a video. I don’t want to see you laying around doing nothing.

      When it is the epic dark version type, I love it. The songs usually never disappoint me. And the videos are typically much better. Taemin’s Danger was amazing. TVXQ’s Mirotic is still one of the best videos ever. VIXX’s Voodoo Doll is awesome… etc.
      And if it is a sad song there is still away to show a wider range of emotion then blank gloomy faces.

      I do enjoy good happy colorful music videos in-between them as well. They are good to listen to while working to keep me motivated.

      3 years ago
  39. I love Winner… but I was a little bit disappointed with their debut songs and videos. A bit gloomy and I think there are better songs on their album- much more upbeat ones too. Also whoever teaches people to lip-synch in YG needs to be fired…

    3 years ago
  40. Can’t believe you didn’t talk about JYJ’s comeback after 3 YEARS!! I’m disappointed :(

    3 years ago