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For those of you who watched us live at the YouTube Music Awards, we were the transition into Troublemaker’s performance. And now we’re seamlessly transitioning into our Music Monday on them. But first, for those of you who haven’t seen their video, here’s a transition to their video!

 

One of the things that we didn’t know how to say in our Music Monday because it’s a bit too serious and difficult to say in a reasonable timespan: yes, Troublemaker’s video is cool, but we don’t like what it represents. Let me explain: I know this blog here is mostly about our experiences in Korea, but it’s really about more than that. We do videos outside of Korea many times as well, and we do a lot of personal videos. The one overarching theme of this site and our videos is really just us interacting with each other and sharing our thoughts and experiences with you. And the main core that we try to share throughout all of our videos, be they Kpop or food or Mexico or personal related, is the concept of a happy marriage. That sounds cheesy, I know. Start barfing rainbows all you want, but that’s really the most important thing we want to share above all. We’ve been married for over six years. We’re best friends, crazy in love with each other, and we have fun and live happy and respect each other and care for each other tremendously.

We saw a bit of that in Rihanna’s video, and not a lot of that in Troublemaker’s video: people happy with each other. I liked seeing Rihanna and the dude at the skatepark and outdoor concert together. They were together, having fun, and smiling, and that was great. However, what we saw in both videos that we didn’t like was the physically and verbally abusive relationships. That wasn’t cool at all. And we don’t want pop culture to make it seem like it’s cool; glorified romantic visions of relationships that are explosive and volatile, equal parts passionate love and passionate hate flat out suck. They suck! I’d rather do my best to depict two people nauseatingly in love. I think that’s a better message to put out there. It’s not gonna get 300 million views like Rihanna’s video did, though, and it’s not something that everyone can relate to, but I think it’s still worth sharing. I didn’t see that a lot in media growing up. I’d like to see more of it now.

Martina at this moment would like to ask how many of you have read The Time Travellers Wife? Because she read that and sobbed like a baby. I remember her reading that. She finished the book and cried her ass off and held my hand nonstop for the next four hours. It was touching. Another thing: we promised ourselves to stop watching sad movies. Why do people put themselves through that? That’s two hours of your life you gave up to end up sad as hell. Anyone seen “House of Sand and Fog”? Interesting movie, but wretchedly miserable. I’d rather see happy things, kthxbai.

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  1. Allan Randall

    I’m sorry, but are you actually saying Rihanna’s MV is better than TM’s!? “We Found Love” is about a self-destructive relationship, abusive even. “Now (There Is No Tomorrow)” has a fight, but it’s not abusive! Maybe you should watch the Uncut version.

  2. crooked was crap…this concept has been overused

  3. You didn’t talk about the dance!

    I love the dance and I think it looks great live.
    I also think Hyuna looks great in the black outfit with the red plaidish overcoat. It moves well when she dances.

  4. I liked GD’s drunkenenss alot more because of his less seksutal and more crazy behavior :)

  5. I read time traveller’s wife! I also cried tremendously. It really showed how the characters strive for love through difficulties… Yeah well I don’t really like how pop music makes sex like it’s nothing, not a big deal, but I dislike this kind of glorifying the abusive relationship more. What happened with all of us….

  6. Guys. Pleaase review a-jax snake. This video is hilarious and really fun :D Too bad it doesnt have enough views and it has been a little underrated.

  7. PromisesNoelle

    I really want to see B1A4 in that M/V simon. It has to happen now; go direct it man!

  8. I guess since it’s Winter, turtlenecks are more in fashion now. You should just come over to the dark side, Martina >:3

  9. Luci Georgieva

    I think the most important part of watching/ listening/ reading about sad things is going trough some form of catharsis and learning something that ‘happy’ can’t give you. For me personally after going trough something that made me cry I feel like I overcome something in me and am more ‘prepared’ when or if I have to go trough hard times. Idk, I’m not exactly a fan of sad stuff (especially movies) but I do appreciate them and do think that somehow a sad movie gives you more than the cliche happy ending.
    I really liked the video of Now, even if the song is kinda boring. I love te part where Hyunseung look at the mirror and turns into the Joker. Cool!

  10. contrary to popular opinion, i liked this video very much for it’s very destructive and violent depiction of a romance because let’s face it, not all love stories are fluff and rainbows. Maybe it’s just me but how they show the loyalty and love until the end, despite all the raw unpleasantries that we’d rather not see, really got me. I never liked Hyuna, nor Hyunseung, nor their song Troublemaker but this song’s MV is something I can watch over and over (not because im attracted to Hyuna, oh no) because it is so carefree, so wild and so realistic in my opinion and it reminds me of Bonnie and Clyde. I dont know though.
    If there is one thing i don’t like about Troublemaker in general, is that Hyunseung appears so passionate, the way he gazes and directs himself to Hyuna whether in music video or live performance, and yet Hyuna always appears so indifferent, more content on flirting with the camera and being unresponsive to Hyunseung. Maybe that’s supposed to be intentional (Since I doubt the audience would appreciate Hyuna flirting and appearing to enjoy Hyunseung’s mistrations, but that’s another cultural isuue).

    Anyway, Now is a pretty realistic and tragic video and it did cause criticism and controversy but, isn’t that what makes a good item? If you are able to raise eyebrows and divide an opinion into two polar opposite sides, then they did well.

  11. I read that book. It was a birthday present and I loved it. Martina’s not alone in being reduced to tears after reading. Awwww for her not letting go of Simon’s hand for 4 hours ahaha.

  12. All I want to see is a male and female unit group that are on equal playing fields. Trouble Maker is interesting, and I get what they’re going for, BUT, I agree that the whole constantly being in a touchy makeout session will get real old real fast. Except to maybe Koreans, who aren’t still used to seeing this kind of stuff. I would honestly prefer a SkyDragon-like (not necessarily them, just an example) duo, where they just go hard and look damn fine just by doing them and not each other. :)

  13. Megan Soller

    Wasn’t the severed hand from the guy that gave him the money to begin with? He had the same watch….

  14. The day I watched The Pianist I vowed never again. I can’t even think of that movie without a hitch in my breathing. The grandfather in the wheelchair scene will forever haunt me. So I too try to avoid these types of movies/books at all costs. Not everything has to be pure fluff, but I disagree with the notion that a happily ever after means that it’s somehow a waste of time. Why does someone have to die or something horrible have to happen to be taken seriously? REDONK!

  15. Aminah Henne

    how do you guys like trouble maker’s new album? (if you’ve listened to it all that is) i think i like it more than their first one

  16. What do you think about the way kpop is going nowadays? From what I have seen, more and more kpop idols are doing “risky” MVs, movies or other things including more sexual scenes. Do you think it’s ruining the “original” cute and innocent kpop image? or is it just the way things have to go

  17. I wish there was more of a middle ground between overly cute and overly sexual. I get that many of these groups need to age as their members age, but maturity does not have to necessarily equal “sexy.” I think BoA can be said to be a mature artist who fits in that middle ground. Women seem to have a harder time to transition from girl to women than the boys to men do in k-pop.

  18. Tangka

    I was pretty taken back by the teaser photos when they first released. I just thought “oh god lord they’re doing the overly sexy thing again”. So I can say, for someone who didn’t watch the Rihanna video, this video was a pleasant surprise for me!

  19. Thank you Martina, for making me laugh my pants off with “Bohemian Rhapsody — the Meemersworth Edition”. ^_^ Oh no. I feel it coming. I can’t stop it…. Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii lost my pants!! Ripido fipido sipi in slow motion

  20. Hey guys! I loved the video. And I agree that this is probably one of the better kpop videos of the year, although it’s a pretty depressing, with it’s message. I was wondering what you thought about the prostitutes at the beginning being Caucasian?

  21. Hannah Rogers

    What do you guys think about Fiestar – “I don’t know”… I thought it was going to be one of those… typical overly innocent girly groups, but it made me laugh through the whole video. Let me know what you think. and Trouble maker. them.

    • It took me awhile to decide to click on Fiestar, but I was actually impressed by it. It’s not the typical aegyo, but seemed to me a more sincere innocence.

  22. irritablevowel
    irritablevowel

    Oh hey, look at me making a comment actually related to KMM! ANYHOO, I’m okay with attempts at pushing the envelope even if what is expressed is depressing. I’m glad they’re trying something different. Yeah, it was derivative of Rihanna’s video, but Rihanna’s video was derivative of the tv show Skins, so there’s that.

  23. ExoticLillian
    ExoticLillian

    you guys are amazing! <3 :)

  24. The song is kinda catchy but the video is just meh..

  25. RiddleThemWithBrillance

    I have two questions.

    1. How come you guys stopped doing Kchart updates?
    2. Why do you hate turtle necks so much?

  26. I vote for Troublemaker!

  27. Could you review Jaejoong – Just Another Girl next week?! I really want you to review his song because this will probably be the last review you will do for Jaejoong and JYJ. They will enlist in the army next year, so, please, puppy eyes!!

  28. Andy Reynolds

    But If you see the whole uncut video you can see that It isn’t an abusive relationship….and this MV is not similar as Rihanna’s MV. However everybody has the right to have its own opinion it’s ok.

  29. Heineken and Budweiser got in a bidding war. Bud obviously won. There’s 2 bottles of Heineken and 10 million of the other. XP

  30. Macie Tonn

    Ok sad movie question for Simon and Martina: Have you guise seen “Pan’s Labyrinth?” Holy crap, I cried the ugly cry after that movie… and the ending, don’t get me started!

    • SoyUnQuesito

      I saw it. In the cinema actually years ago. It’s a spanish film right? Quite famous there, and actually one of the best rated id IMDB and Metacritic :) Beautiful movie

  31. I watched the uncut version, and it makes WAAAY more sense now. However one thing I noticed in both Trouble Makers mvs is that that they’re bad assassins. XP. If them gangsters were gonna kill him anyway why didn’t they shoot as he was running, and COME ON~ That guy was walking with a gun! IT WASN’T EVEN HIDDEN~~xO
    Otherwise, the chemistry between those two are really realistic and well done. :]

  32. Thanks for the great video. Feel better, Martina.

  33. Rahel Rockstroh

    Honestly i didn’t knew about troublemaker until i watched it before K-Pop Music Monday. I just agree that its really interessting and not the usal K-Pop style. I don’t know how to discribe it better.

    Besides I have to say Martina, i don’t like pink that much but you make this color look so good that i may start liking pink. Thanks to you both and the rest of your crew for making K-Pop Monday Videos. Even if its fun it still takes a lot of time.

  34. AuroraCoddled

    Well, i don’t agree that we don’t need sad stories. I think many people can relate to them, need to tell them, or for whatever reason need to “go through” them to learn or feel something not necessarily familiar to them. But i do agree that there are not many depictions of healthy (totally abusive free) couples out there. Not even in romantic movies, let alone in music videos. Anyway, be assured Simon, what you and Martina try to communicate through your videos is clear and i think many of us nasties really appreciate it!

  35. Bronze Babe

    I would like to predict that the next Kpop Mondays review will be Miss A’s Hush :P (The laptop spoiler really makes voting a bit moot)

  36. I would like to see meemers and spudgy do a music monday. That would be hilarious! XD

  37. jimmy piplup

    I get what you mean with liking people being in nauseating love… But, I mean, if you watch the drama version (witch S&M obviously did) you get to see the kind of consequences of such a volatile relationship. Hyunseung is this bad boy who kills people for (magic) money and Hyuna is obviously attracted to the whole bad boy image, except she has random fits of rage at him (I personally like to look at it as her anger at his job of killing people, which is why she’s throwing magic money at him all the time) and stuff like that.
    (SERIOUS SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN’T SEEN IT)
    But then it all comes back to bite them, because Hyunseung dies and Hyuna is left alone in their trailer waiting for him, not knowing whether he is dead or alive. That is a sucky end to a relationship, no matter how you look at it.
    Besides, as much as I get the happy in love thing (being completely happy and barfingly in love is awesome, obviously) it is still a fact of life that relationships like this happen. Sure they’re not ideal, but we can’t just turn a blind eye to everything in the world that is unpleasant… (of course, I completely agree that glorifying said relationships is bad)
    I think this paragraph is confusing… urg I give up.

  38. But I totally love sad movies :p. I am told I am such a pessimist but I am honestly a very happy one. It makes me sound like such a loner to say this and it is so not the social norm but I’m sometimes so comfortable with myself I don’t want to be with other people. I was social up until I turned sixteen, then I became a contemplative yet free loner. Yes, I am totally a vagabond type of person. I can’t imagine being with someone else! I totally love sad and moving stuff. I just feel like they tell better stories. I always find lovey dovey stuff to be shallow and at the end, you learn nothing. Yes, some lovey dovey stories are very heart warming. You guys should watch Paris Je t’aime: Bastille (It’s somewhat sad but very heart warming and moving story though it might urk you guys a little). I love stuff like that not necessarily emotionally and physically abusive. Heavens no, but bitter sweet. I like to feel the feels, you know!

  39. jeenisthebestt . ♥

    i need SHINee in maa lyyfe

  40. Ellen (alatariel)

    Hahahaha how the heck did people end up talking about The Heirs, here??? 8’D

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