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First off, we want to apologize a bit for this lackluster Music Monday. We tried really hard to be inspired this week, and I’m sure there were tons of things we could have joked about to make this more of an upbeat Music Monday, but, at the moment, Martina’s grandfather doesn’t look like he’ll pull through. Things have gotten significantly worse, and we’ve been really down as a result. Most of the time silliness comes natural to us, and we’ve got tons of ideas for things to say. This week, though, we’re just too mopey to be inspired of cheerful things. Sorry everyone :(

Onto more cheerful things!

Gull You Like a Cat Pee! If you haven’t seen the awesomeness of this video and the near perfection of this song, check it out. We seriously love this song and video and feel so passionately about it:

 

Did you see that? Did you see how perfectly everything worked together? The video director and the costume designer, it seems, actually co-ordinated their efforts, so that the wardrobe fits the set! And the set is lovely. Yes, it’s a set, and it’s not outdoors, but it’s so freaking original. Not a well-lit box, but a very decadent, Victorian damasqued-decor room. It’s smokey and dark, fits perfectly with the smoke cloud of the ex-girlfriend and the smoking of the fire and of Yoseop’s body (and by “smoking body” I don’t mean that with a Balley-girl accent. I mean, literal smoke). The high-arching cathedral pillars, the almost tattooesque skully wallpapered room where Yoseop sits. Just…so cool! All of it, lovely.

And that’s just talking about the design aesthetic. There’s also the awesomeness of the strings. They’re brilliantly used. Right when Yoseop starts hitting those falsettos, those higher notes, his chair elevates to match the sound. The song sounds like it starts floating, and the chair matches. Brilliant! So simple, yet so effective. And the use of strings for the dance makes him look very puppet-like, which matches with the dead, robotic stare you see on Yoseop’s emotionless face when he puts the heart back into his robot body. Holy crap! It’s so well done.

We also didn’t get a chance to gush on about the backup dancers, but we loved loved the covered bodies and fringed faces. They were like Yoseop’s creepy shadows following him around, doubling as both backup dancers and aspects of the music video. It was so cool but did remind me of the fear I felt towards Son Dambi’s creepy backup dancers. *shudder*

Who made this video?! I know some of you know, you dedicated Batooties, you! Did they make videos of similar quality before? I must know! This is seriously one of the coolest, prettiest videos of the year.

Side note: we find it pretty hilarious how people are freaking out over the kissing scenes…AS IF THEY’RE ACTUALLY KISSING! Come on! Ain’t no kissing going on there. Look how cleverly the camera covers up any actual lip touching. It’s like “Ooops! This frame got in the way of our camera! Their mouths are covered! Ah well! We can’t redo the shot because, umm, we gotta go to lunch, so…let’s just use it!” Rubbish. If this was a real kiss scene, we’d see lips on top of lips moving. Not faces close to each other with weird stuff getting in the way. I’m too used to Western TV Shows and Movies to think that this was a real kiss. I seen some real kisses. This ain’t it!

Other than that, I think our 40 minute rant on English in Kpop pretty much covers it. We still totally love the song, though, even if the chorus makes us vomit in our mouths a little bit. The rest of the song is flawless. Where the heck can you buy it, though? Come on!

We did try to giggle a bit with our bloopers, which you can see here.

 

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  1. I don’t like this song. But that may be because I dislike most slow songs. No…. the best part about B2ST is their Engrish….Engrish is what got me into UKISS and B2ST don’t take it away from me…
    But I agree if they want to be taken seriously on a global level their English needs to improve. Or better yet use no English. But I love B2ST’s Engrish….. It’s what got me into Shock. Everyday I shock shock!

  2. kpopfan123

    I hope he gets better :(…..

    About the English… I think Yoseop tried for it to sound the way it should sound; the one who really messed up was, in fact, Jun Hyung – . -

    You were a bit harsh but it’s understandable :(

    ♥♥♥♥

  3. Maybe Ive just got post christmas blues, but this song didnt do it for me. The video IS very prettily shot and thank god someone (other than YG) has put some serious attention into the concept of the importance of a video relating to the song it is for. The engrish WAS too much for me, I heard “you better me, so better me, oh girl you like a caffeine ” Ok, individually “you better me” can stand as in ‘you make me better then I was previously’ , fine Ill let that slide. But “you like a caffeine” ? What, she likes having a caffeine, so shouldnt that be ‘she likes having a coffee, or a red bull’? Is that not what Yoseop meant? Did he mean she is like a drug? Who knows? So yeah he managed the f, but wth is you like a caffeine meant to MEAN? Its nonsensical! I can happily cope with mispronunciation what I cant cope with is poor GRAMMAR. GGGrrrrrr sorry, but the song was ruined for me. For that reason I cannot vote for this song!! I would have voted for GD anyway as I love ‘That xx’ but this COULD have given it a run for the money.

  4. GD’s That XX. The one w/o the blips and the silly censoring.

  5. how cute wallpaper on your laptop ^o^
    for The Showdown I wote for… GD. I have to admit that Yo Sup’s “Coffeine” is great and I really like it but… I love “That XX” even more. It’s just so good and hey, it’s G-Dragon! XD Sorry Yoseop, maybe next time :c

  6. I’m sorry about your grandfather,Martina. I hope he pulls through.
    I love this song even though the English is kind of messed up.

  7. whats wrong about the English part!!!

  8. So, if you’re not doing a Kpop music monday until the new year, and Girls Generation is coming back on January 1st… I think we can kiss our dreams of a Secret review goodbye. -_-;;;
    That said, I loved the episode, and now I can’t sing this song without saying “you’re like a cat pee!”

    And as for your grandfather, Martina, here’s hoping he’ll bounce back and pull through. And if he doesn’t, here’s hoping that you and your family will find comfort and peace together.

  9. Arg!!! I u guys were doing kpop music monday next week Secret could finally be reviewed

  10. Alana Eliasmith

    I’ll vote for GD even though it’s really difficult to choose…. and I know it’s for the music video not the english, but the english in That XX was SOOOOO much better. And it influences my choice a bit.

    I hear “Girl you like a coffee”, not “Girl you like a caffeine”. Maybe it’s just me… but I also hear “You bad to me”, instead of “You better me”. But everyone’ll hear it a bit different, and it does matter what each individual person hears, so…

  11. This is so hard…………………….. GD or Yo……Seop………Ack!

    Yoseop………..

    I’ve loved you longer.

    YOSEOP!!!!!

  12. Myka Otaku Perdida

    Please review the subtitles so we can understand better the video that we are not English-speaking. =)

    Thanks =D

  13. English and all I vote for Yoseop. It’s a very nice song the whole album is.

  14. Beautiful, classic video. Really too bad about the English. Yoseop, call me next time for grammar corrections!

  15. Seriously catchy despite the Engrish. I’m lovin this! I wonder if caffeine could equate to drug. You’re bad for me like caffeine (but I’m addicted)? I know I was humming this and grinning at the bakery I work at this morning. It went well with my frappucino :D

  16. This is the first time in awhile that I see Simon getting SO upset with the engrish of a song… AWESOME!!! lol…..

  17. I vote for GD because that XX was just beautifully shot and it really added another meaning to the song, like you pointed out on your review. Plus I’m GD biased, so thats that LOL

  18. michiehaha87

    I love Yoseop’s voice and I absolutely love Batoost, but the english in the song killed the mood for me, I cant take the song seriously at all. I saw a great example of engrish, a friend sent me this picture which looked like a catalog pic of this dude posing very awesomely with a sweater that said ‘Crap your hands, make some noise’ …. how would that sound, I wonder? XD hahahaha

  19. Dulce Lopez
    Dulce Lopez

    G-Dragon – That XX

  20. Also, I just wanted to say that they did actually kiss. Junhyung said that Yoseob requested it because Junhyung got to kiss in one of his MVs apparently. I believe it was either Yoseob or Junhyung who said this in an interview I watched.

  21. Yoseob is my bias, but I liked GD’s That XX video better. The plot was really interesting and could be taken several ways. I just loved it. :3

  22. GD song and MV are good, but Yoseop are way better for me so my vote is for Yoseop Caffeine.

  23. michiehaha87

    LMAO! @ Girl your like a cat pee xD hahahahahahahahahahaha – on the other hand, I thought Secret was going to make it :0. On the OTHER hand, My thoughts are with Martina and her family! <3 Dont be so sad, just think about it as him moving on to a better place :)

  24. Sung Soh

    I have a suggestion. How about doing male song one week and female song another, alternating for Kpop Monday? That way you can balance the two and viewers may have 2 weeks to vote for their favorite song.

  25. I come to your website mostly for the wanking and the fap-fapping (both of which I absolutely love), so I’ve never heard of Yoseop. I watched the video and wasn’t at all offended by the English. I thought the whole thing sounded good and liked the song a lot. English can get pretty butchered in songs done by native English speakers also! Good luck to you guys. Keep up the good work!

  26. bouhbouhification

    i loved both songs and both videos, but i think i’ll vote for That XX, even though Yoseob sings better… i don’t know, That XX is, for me, a prettier song with a prettier MV, but it’s a hard choice lol

  27. I vote for Yoseob’s Caffeine.

  28. ‘I can’t foresee anything wrong going with that’ – Simon. Awkward grammar? Yes? ;p

  29. My thoughts are with you and your family Martina!
    As for my vote, G-Dragon all the way :)

  30. xbb1024

    As to votes for next year’s videos, I’m voting “Tinkerbell” by Gain. I’m sure it will be out by next year… maybe…

  31. PANDA_EYES

    Well this is a hard choice…:| Caffeine, That XX, both songs, both MVs I love them so much!>< But…, I'm gonna vote for GD. :) I still love your song, Yoseob!^^

    And…I'm sorry about your grandfather, Martina. Stay strong, both of you. :")

  32. I don’t think that this KMM was a lackluster, I’d rather watch you talking throughout the video than forcing yourselves to joke when you’re feeling down. Stay strong, guise!

    To the video: It’s one of these moments when I’m glad that English is not my native language, because the Engrish in Kpop doesn’t make me cringe that much (well, sometimes it does, but not often). And “Caffeine” didn’t impress me at first, but it really grows on me.

  33. Well, i dunno if anyone said this in the previous comments, but they use a different director this time instead of the usual zanybros. I forgot his name, but yoseob said that this is his first time working with him

  34. I’ve become strangely addicted to the Engrish in this song. The chorus is so catchy. I find myself singing “You bad to me, you bad to me, Oh girl you like a caffeine” under my breath all the time. It’s so easy to understand what the lyrics are trying to express with that line, that even if it is grammatically incorrect, I don’t mind it at all. Some Engrish you can’t even tell where the writer was going (or what he/she was on) when they wrote it. Also, between the two of them, I’d say Junhyung is the bigger offender with his pronunciation. At least I can hear Yoseob singing “You bad to me” unlike Junhyung’s “You bed to me.”

    I also think certain cases of mispronunciation of English in kpop songs stem from the line having an English loan word. For example, Super Junior’s Spy contains the word “highlight,” which is a loan word from English that has its own accepted Korean spelling and pronunciation: 하이라이트 or ha-i-ra-i-too. Considering that that part of Spy’s lyrics is written in hangul and not English, I find it perfectly acceptable for the singer to use the Korean pronunciation. Caffeine’s case is different because “caffeine” is actually written in English in the lyrics, but since it is also one of those English loan words, I can see how it would be easy for a Korean speaker to fall back on the Korean pronunciation of 카페인, which sounds different from the English pronunciation.

    Moving on to the showdown: I love both songs and both videos! It’s close, but my vote goes to That XX because the video adds meaning to the song that you can’t glean from only listening to the song. Actually, since we’re already talking about That XX, I’ll just mention that That XX gets my vote for Best Overall Video of the Year in the EYKAs. We couldn’t nominate both a GD video and a BB video in the same category, so it wasn’t included in the Top 10. But in my heart, That XX is the Best Video of 2012. :)

  35. Here i thought he was saying “you’re bad to me”

  36. I kept on hearing “Your battery”… and it made me giggle

  37. KATHyphenTUN
    KATHyphenTUN

    YAY I’m so glad you liked the song!! (not that im suprised you guys seem to have similair tastes to what I like) I loooved it when if first came out! You guys are right about the english…. I prefer to sing it properly to myself haha XD

  38. i actually prefer G Dragon’s ‘That XX’ over Yoseob’s ‘Caffeine’. Although ‘Caffeine’ was a good song and partnered with an amazing music video, but ‘That XX’ has a lot of elements that i think outweighs ‘Caffeine’. Simon and Martina did cover some parts of the video quite well but I think they missed a lot of detail. Things like the artist’s explanation of the art on the wall where G Dragon stood, the clothes and their representation- I can’t remember most of them cause I actually saw them on a post somewhere but that detailed post really have my eyes opened for ‘That XX’. From the make up, to the art, to the clothing, G Dragon paid extreme detail to it as all of it has its own meaning and when put together is what made that video so ‘perfect’. ‘Caffeine’ was a pretty song and the video and lyrics goes really well together with Yoseob’s voice and the choreography but i personally think G Dragon’s ‘That XX’ although simple but the video gives a whole other dimension that’s deep and meaningful, that we couldn’t have thought of just by solely understanding the lyrics. All in all, what’s most important is that I hope you guys will feel better soon. All the best for you and your family and have faith.

  39. I feel bad that you both had to act cheerful even in these trying times :( Thank you guise for the hard work you put on this video!
    I really liked the song and was REALLY interested as how you’d react to the Engrish! I must say, you did NOT disappoint.
    I’m a hardcore VIP but I LOVE this song to bits!! So on the showdown, my vote goes to Caffeine :D

  40. I don’t know…I heard it as “you’re bad to me” and not “you better me” and as for the pronunciation of caffeine, that’ just the Korean pronunciation of caffeine. For example, English pronunciation of Porsche is different from the actual pronunciation.
    It’s actually funny when I try to order a machiatto and say it with English pronuncation and the people don’t understand me so I have to say it in Korean pronunciation “ma-kki-ah-tdo” and they all go “ohhhhhhh! that!” hahah

    (Another fun fact….instead of saying sodium, Korean say Natrium…which is from the chemical symbol for sodium, Na.)

    Also, keeping your family in my prayers! <3

  41. I want that Beast shirt so bad!!! But they won’t shipped it to Korea!

  42. I’m sorry about your grandfather Martina, we Nasties appreciate your effort to put out videos even in this situation, so don’t apologise. I love you guys and I hope for the best for you and your family.

  43. Sympathies for your Grandfather’s poor health. I appreciate your professionalism in making a video even when it wasn’t easy! Much respect.

    Re: the review itself, don’t worry about it not being jokey. I’m possibly in the minority, but I actually kind of prefer the more low-key reviews without as many skits and so on. There really aren’t a lot of sources of objective reviews in kpop (there tends to be either extreme of ‘lol these wacky Asians and their wacky music!!1′ and “OMGGGG OPPPPPAR ILU I AM SO READY TO BINGO!!!1′)

  44. As much as I love G-Dragons MV I’d Have To Give it To The Tiny One. My Vote Goes For Yoseop Yangs “Caffeine” Because its really more literal and gives you a movie like short mini movie :) By the way, is it just me or Did T.O.P make a cameo in this video? Lurka Lurka I.e he’s wearing that hideous turtle neck outfit.

  45. You can hear ‘Caffeine’ or a brave attempt at pronouncing ‘f’ if you hear with earphones and turn it loud and concentrate really hard. Lol. Esp seob’s parts. But it’s more like Calf-fin or Caffy. Junhyung sings coffee regardless. Must be missing his beloved Cola.

  46. kpopwillneverstop

    I so agree with you guys on that engrish. I’m not a fan of Beast (and really don’t care for Cube Ent.), but Caffeine is an amazing song; sadly, the engrish in this song turned me off so much that I still can’t even finish the entire song. I’ve probably tried to listen to the entire song about 4 times and I still can’t finish it. I do think that the english is 0 worthy because it’s like you have this beautifully composed song with great singing only to be disrupted by the contrast of bad english. If the english was perfect (or even near perfect), this song would exactly be the ideal kpop introduction song to non-kpop listener. Wait, don’t Beast have an english coach (because she made a brief appearance on Hello Venus’s show teaching them english)? Wow, we can really tell her hard work is paying off…not.

  47. Martina every time I hear about your grandpa…I cry. I’ll pray for you two and ur family.

  48. What was that clinking sound at the beginning of the video? It sounded like ice cubes dropping into a glass to me. I thought perhaps he was making an iced coffee, but nope, no ice in the glass. Also, it sounds like he’s saying “you bad to me, you bad to me, you like a coffee”, which kinda makes sense since coffee is bad for you. Although, I’m sure Simon is correct about the lyrics.I just like to make mine own lyrics up when I don’t understand what’s being sung (but that’s usually when sung in Korean not English).

  49. I really did not think the English was that bad. I did hear “you’re like a caffeine.” Instead of “you’re like caffeine” but I definitely heard “you’re bad to me.” Which to me, makes perfect sense. And the extra, a sound, was awkward, but it wasn’t horrendously, offensively bad. I don’t think it’s 0 worthy. And yeah, yoseob wins.

  50. unicornsgalaxy

    Ok so much to say!

    First, I have dubbed Yoseob as Sir Bendy of Bendsalot because of his bendy dance. Feel free to use that as his name from now on. :D

    Second, I’m right there with you with B2ST songs. I have loved all of them, except my least favorite are Beautiful and Bad Girl.

    Third, I love the skits that you usually do, but I quite enjoyed this review. It was a pure review and was entertaining at the same time. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you don’t need all those skits to make a review entertaining so you have no need to apologize and I didn’t think this KMM was lackluster at all.

    Forth, Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice! See attached pic!

    And Lastly, My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

  51. Our hearts are with you and your grandpa. Thanks for doing a KMM despite that. Love you guys! <3

  52. Oh man this video is so pretty! Like stare-at-it-all-damn-day pretty. <3

    Martina, I'm sorry about your grandfather! Prayers and lots of happy thoughts coming your way :) And this KMM isn't lackluster so much as it is an earnest plea to PLEASE FREAKING UPGRADE THE ENGRISH OF KPOP SONGS. (or this Kpop song, at least). I agree with everything you guise said. And Simon, thanks very much for the how-to-pronounce guide for Yoseob's name–I had no idea how to pronounce it :)

  53. leftshoe4613

    You seriously have no reason to apologize. We all go through hard times. I just hope everyone else thinks the same thing.
    I’m so glad this song was reviewed, despite the cringe-worthy Engrish. Simon articulated my thoughts about this English perfectly. Thanks again for the wonderful MM!

  54. So sorry to hear about your grandpa Martina, I know what that’s like and I hope you and your family can draw strength and grow close during this terrible time. Go all out for Christmas and New Years this year with your family if you can, have a skype party.

    About the vid, I do understand how it’s kind of ruined as a kpop initiation song by some of the lyrics and I appreciated your insight into everything that is going on.

  55. cookiemonster

    I agree completely about the mv and song being simply a.ma.zing. When I watched it for the first time I was just in utter awe at all the beauty and mystery and awesomeness contained in under 4minutes. And yeah, about the engrish, I guess I’m just so used to bad english now that I don’t even care, no I actually love it now haha, it is very entertaining :P
    Anyway, I’m really really sorry about your grandfather Martina!!! I hope that you guys are ok, just know that nasties are thinking about you and your grandfather and I am too <3 <3
    oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS^^^

  56. Yes, they have made other MVs where the set and clothes actually match the song. ^^ You should check out Beast’s “SHOCK!” I’m not sure if you’ve seen that MV yet, but I think that one is just as perfect as Caffeine, from the shaky camera to the funky black clothes to the emotional scenes to the shockin’ dance to the dark – but electric – set! You guys gotta check it out.

  57. fuuko4869

    Wow….I didn’t realise you liked it so much. Maybe because the Batooties on the site had been hyping it up so much, and I was soo in love with KSK’s solo, so I found this a little underwhelming. But I do admit it was really pretty.

    lol did you know, we almost nominated this for Best Engrish of the year the moment it was released. Even the Batooties were joking about it.

    And wow that KMM was short.

    And it was the last of the year too.

    I see you’ve been reading all those tumblr posts. Good on you for addressing it. I like the Engrish sections of your KMM, don’t let the haters get you down :p

  58. I heard “You bad to me, you bad to me, oh girl, you like a coffee.” and then wondered what he meant. The girl likes coffee or she’s like coffee. If she’s like coffee then how is coffee bad?” I couldn’t get into this song.

  59. Wow, sorry to hear about your grandfather. Please be well. Maybe take a break from EyK for a week or so.

  60. Psst: Martina. Can you do a open the happy on how to do your hair? :)

  61. Paige Kosa

    I’m hoping that fate will be in a giving mood so that a.) My copy of “The First Collage” will get here today so that it can coincide with the release of this KMM and that b.) Martina’s Papa will get better, no matter how grave it may seem. After the awful even that happened on Friday, I don’t want anyone to lose someone so important to them.

  62. bigbangfosho
    bigbangfosho

    Oh no! Martina, I really really hope your grandfather feels better. I hope you both feel better too.

    But I can’t help but laugh at this:
    “it’s so freaking original” original…in the voice that Simon used. Typed out it’s like orIGInal..e.e

  63. Nazaret

    I feel really sad because now it is going to be impossible for Secret’s song to get reviewed.

  64. First off, my off heart goes out to you, Simon and Martina!!! I know exactly how you goes feel right now, and I’m hoping and praying for the best!!! Second, is this a B2ST song I like? Inconceivable!! But seriously, after the terribad experience that was Beautiful Night (The song and the video made me want to throw things at my tv when it came on M-Net), I’ve been avoiding all things B2ST; they just seemed icky to me. This song, however, is beautifully made; even with the bad english (which I didn’t even notice, till y’all pointed it out). I have to give my vote to G-D, though. Yes, the YG bias is strong in me. Don’t hate me guise!!!

  65. I’m sorry to hear about your grandfather Martina! Please take comfort in knowing the K-Pop warriors and the whole Spudgy army are here for you.. Thank you for everything, you guys inspire me everyday. I wish my first commment to you guys was on a happier note but please know I’m here for you..

  66. I’ll continue to pray for your grandfather and family. Although you guys are physically far apart remember that these are the times where a family can grow even closer together. You guys can still emotionally and spiritually support and encourage each other. As for the KMM, the atmosphere of the song definitely allotted a more toned down review. Don’t worry about us Nasties. We’ll continue being here so family first~ I understand how distressing it is to have a relative so sick, especially during the holidays. My grandfather died last year the day after Christmas. Although, I wasn’t super close to him I still cried from my loss and the loss of my father. During these times it’s important to draw strength from God and also each other~

    I also agreed with everything you had to say about the song and video. I loved the song to begin with, but the video made me love it on a completely other level. The aesthetics were beautiful to behold <3

  67. DARNIT THIS MEANS NO SECRET KMM >_<
    Sorry about your grandpa Martina, I hope for the best!

  68. JustDense

    No need for explanations nor apologies guise, I’m sure all nasties understand the situation :)

    Now for a short rant I have:
    The “Like a Caffeine” isn’t as engrishy to me after taking into account the beat of the melody. I see it more of an “inflexion” to fill that empty space between the two words. I tried singing “Like Caffeine” and it sounded choppy, like it missed a word in between. So I see what’s the reason behind that part. Countless songs in english have used that resource in similar situations so I don’t see any reason to let that alone, at least this time.

    The rest of the english however, yes it’s awful GULL YOU BED TO ME SO BED TO ME~
    Junhyung why.
    /rant

    Since this is the last KMM of the year, I hope you all have a nice christmas and new year’s celebrations :D
    And may 2013 be also a year full of K-pop and awesome. Specially overseas concerts. Lots of them.

    • Haha, yes, Junhyung most definitely sings/raps “You bed to me.” :D In Yoseob’s case, I can actually hear “bad.” Even in his lives I can hear him sing “bad.” So good for him.

  69. Whereas I do agree for the most part about the English of the song, I will say that I find it a tad bit more understandable than S&M do. Every time I’ve heard the song it doesn’t come across as “You better me”, but rather, “You’re bad to me.” Admittedly, this is still terrible grammar, but the concept of the wordage makes more sense to me. I can’t deny that he does say “Girl, you’re like A caffeine.” though.
    Other than that, I find this Music Monday to be very much in sync with my own feelings about the song/video. I can’t say that it was my absolute favorite song of the year (I have far too many I’ve liked better.), but I can say that I thoroughly enjoy it, and the video was drop-dead gorgeous. Seriously, I don’t think I can say I’ve seen a more artistic video all year.

    Very sorry to hear about y’all’s family circumstances. I’ll be praying for you both, as well as the rest of your family. I truly hope you can still enjoy your holidays and start the new year off on a good note.
    God bless.

    • I defiantly don’t hear “you better me” but instead ” you bad to me, so bad to me, oh girl you like a caffeine” which doesn’t sound horrible to me. While yes I do hear ” like a caffeine” I also know he is just pronouncing “like” in Korean “라이크” so I don’t think he should get bad marks for that. Anyone who has ever been around a Korean person knows they pronounce some English words differently cause they have changed it to Korean to make it easier to learn. That is how their teacher taught them what else can you expect. I personally think S&M was to harsh on him while in so many of their videos they say they are not going to take marks off for pronunciation …….”cough” Junsu uncommitted “cough”…which I could never figure out what he was saying at the chorus. Oh well I guess Junsu can do no wrong for S&M. So I would say at least a 3 not a 0. Even Koreans who have lived in a America for awhile, example my husband who has been here for 5 years now who has improved amazingly from when we first met, still says stuff a bit different sounding. Just last night he kept saying “code code code” and all I could hear was “cold cold cold”. I just asked my husband to say caffeine and he said it so weird but he also said I say it weird/wrong so there you go….

      and one last thing…I can’t stand that pearl suit!!!! That makes me vomit more than any of his engrish!!!

      • As a student of Korean going on two years, I understand where you’re coming from completely. Different languages have different forms of phonology. They use different vowel sounds, intonations, inflections, and so on. It’s only natural that someone who speaks a language like Korean would have difficulty pronouncing certain words from a Germanic language as convoluted as English – particularly those which end in very distinctive consonants, such as ‘like’, ‘heart’, ‘humanoids’, etc. They’re simply not used to the structure, or the ‘mouth feel’, if you will.
        Be that as it may, when you boil it down to its root, the grading system
        in Music Mondays is meant to be based on a singer’s English, not their
        ‘Engrish’. This, of course, includes their pronunciation just as much as it does the grammatical correctness of whatever it is they say. Looking at things objectively with this in mind, I can understand why they would be judging the pronunciation based on a native English speaking standard, rather than the acceptable standards of an ESL student. Of course, this is just my opinion on how things should be rated from an analytical standpoint and has nothing to do with how S&M choose to rate things for themselves; this is their site and they may rate in their videos however they so please. Honestly though, I really don’t pay much attention at all to poor English usage in Korean music; I’m listening for their Korean, after all, not their English.
        I hope I don’t come across as abrasive. If so, that’s not my intention. I just like the chance to ramble now and then.

        As for the suit… I agree, it’s pretty terrible. But at least he’s not wearing shorts and tights. (Ugh.)

      • I agree with you, they were too harsh about the english grade. There are other examples of horrible engrish in kpop videos: “human noise”- Tvxq; “tonight i don’t need a damn explain” Get out- JYJ. Non of them got a big fat 0. The issue that you mentioned about Junsu is so true, i almost forgot i! They said they were not taking off marks for pronuntiation!! Hate doule standards… Btw, this is coming from a massive fan of JYJ, but I have o be fair!

  70. All I keep hearing is “You’re so bad to me, so bad to me, girl you like a COFFIN!!!!!!” XD And that has to be the shortest K-Pop Music Monday EVER!!! DX I am so disappoint!!! TT_TT What a great song and video though. I guess there wasn’t much to say besides the English. :- I was expecting more skits involving the levitating YoSeob or the heart being put in the chest or the English. What about the dance?! It was sick!!! Oh well, love you Yoseobie~ ^_^ And S&M you still rock. :-P

  71. I am so in love with this song and video, and yes… the engrish is just.. asdfOHGODWHYgjkl, but u know, i still love it :) btw Merry Christmas!

  72. azn_cbc_1992

    … nooooo does that mean that secret wont get reviewed …

  73. Jessica May

    Hey you don’t even have to apologize for this more serious MM, it’s already amazing you filmed it regarding the situation! All my thoughts are with you and your family, fighting!
    I’m voting for YoSeop for the showdown, both song and video are really cool^^

  74. I hear “girl you like a coffee”, not even a bit close to caffeine :( But it’s still an awesome song!

  75. Kim Hoang

    I vote for GD because he didn’t jump on a counter and dance on top of it.

  76. Sorry to hear about your grandpa, Martina.

    Also, shedding a tear for what could have been. I could get over most of the Engrish except the “like a cappeine.” If you can’t pronounce the “ff,” don’t put it in the chorus!! And “a” —aaarrgh, any English speaker could have pointed that out. Siiiiiggghhhh.
    Still voting for Yoseop b/c the video is really good – I like the floaty bits.

  77. I have a friend from Japan and to help me pronounce his name he said to think of it as Yo Hey…Yohei…….lol so Yo Sup makes sense to me!

  78. PunkyPrincess92
    PunkyPrincess92

    is that Super Cute Kawaii on your laptop??
    hahahaha SHINee Juliette clothes weren’t my fave either!! and haha Taemin’s bajillion watches!!!
    oh god i hate those hideous “owl” outfits from Keep Your Head Down!!! dunno why it just reminds me of owls!!

    aww sorry to hear about your grandfather Martina!
    and i thought this KMM was totally fine!! i loved the ‘Yo…Seop!’ part!!!

  79. The song was boss! LOL idk I guess English doesn’t really matter to me as much when it comes to KPOP but it matters to you guys and I totally respect that. I think everyone should voice their own opinions in a professional way which you guys do because nothing irritates me more than hearing those rude comments under an amazing video only because the viewer does not like the band or song, that’s childish but I like your opinions and hey if anything u guys help me piece together videos that the first time around I possibly did not understand =) Thank you Simon and Martina for making my Mondays and any other day that you guys release your cool videos about the food or certain places special! You guys are cool and I hope that someday when I am a photojournalist working in Korea, my dream and i’m willing to accomplish it, I can meet you guys! FIGHTING!!!!

  80. batoooostttt alll the wayyyyyyyy!!! I’m glad you guys got to do a music monday for this song and manage not to change my love for it. I was excited but also afraid of what you guys would say because, honestly, yoseob is purrrfect lol I’m glad you guys enjoyed it like I did ^^

  81. I’m sorry Martina about your grandfather. I wish the best for you and your family. I love you guys and will support you no matter what :) Nasty for life!

  82. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    I’m going to go cry myself to sleep now because OC now has zero chance of winning…

  83. I vote GD. Like Simon and Martina, I felt that the video really added another dimension to the meaning of the song and that it was really well done.

  84. Bethany

    I don’t hear the same english as you guys. I hear “you’re bad to me, so bad to me. Oh girl, you like a caffeine”…

    • I hear “You” rather than “You’re”, personally. There’s no way he’s singing “you’re” with the way he transitions to the rest of the words. It would have been a better line if he’d said “You’re bad for me, so bad for me. Oh girl, you’re like a caffeine.”

  85. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    We almost put this in the Engrish category… Guess we should have kept it…

  86. Well, we can’t buy it here on iTunes in the states yet, so disappointing ;( i loved this song from the moment i heard it. His falsettos are gorgeous, and his attitude and tone in the song are phenomenal! BUT, i agree with the English. The first time i heard this i thought, “If this gets voted to KMM, Simon is going to rip him a new one on this!” Honest to Goodness, that was my very first thought when i heard, “Just Like a Cappiene!” But otherwise, the sets, dances, costumes all of it, I am in total agreeance, it is PERFECTION!

  87. First! Hehehe this is the first time I’ve been able to do that!

  88. The Engrish is quite cringe worthy, but the song still holds a special part in my heart <3
    And I'm so sorry about your Grandfather, Martina! I'll pray for you and your family and hopefully he pulls through :) And don't worry about the KMM, I still found it entertaining as usual!

  89. ktaeng

    omfg. “Yo. Seop. I can’t forsee anything wrong going with that.”
    Sorry about Martina’s grandpa, guise. :/

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