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K.Will “Love Blossom” – Vote for it Here!

 

Hooray! We just finished our K.Will interview! It’s 4PM on Friday right now, and K.Will’s coming in 4 hours. I should probably have showered. Ha! We ran over here to do the livechat, and then started writing some blog posts. Martina’s got a makeup post she’s working on (damn, I hate writing the description boxes for those). Anyhow, K.Will’s about to come and we’re nervous. AH!

Not that we act nervous on camera. We just always feel odd when there are other people in our videos, you know? We want everything to go smoothly. We should start with showering first!

Ok I’m writing this now after the interview is finished. We just did it last night. Yay! K.Will gave some insight into this song and video, among other cool things, and maybe we might use that material in our discussion of his video…if we choose to review it.

Also, in our KpopCharts update we commented about how disappointed we were in this week’s comment section for Music Monday. We understand if you don’t agree with our selection of what video we decide to talk about, but we’d rather the comment section be used for commenting on the video, not an unrelated video. That’s what we want the comment section to be: cool people discussing a video we shared. Agree with some points, disagree with others, laugh at some jokes, add to points we missed, ask questions, give answers, get answers. We’d like to talk about the video that we made, and use that as a springboard for discussion.

For this Music Monday, though, we have complaining about videos we DIDN’T make, rather than talking about a video that we DID make. If you’d like for us to make a page for you to voice your discontent in our selection process, we can make that for you, but please don’t hijack a comment section for another video instead. It alienates potential commenters, and alienates us as well.

GI “Beatles” – Vote for it Here!

 

In a somewhat related note, some of you might have looked at the thumbnails we made for this week’s list of videos and wonder what the hell this “I’m Sorry I Couldn’t Save You” business is all about. Any Korean people here? Guise? Can you explain this for us better? We were talking with Soo Zee yesterday and she told us about this big Korean online meme going on, in which they take pictures of celebrities derping out and caption it with “I’m Sorry I Couldn’t Save You,” but in Korean (obviously). We don’t remember the Korean phrase for it. It gets shortened as well for the meme, which we also don’t remember. Point is, get ready for us to abuse the hell out of this meme :D Maybe it’s already really old and uncool, and we’re gonna be the equivalent of your parents being like “hey there, my child: did you hear about this Nyan cat thing? It’s cool and funny!” Maybe. Maybe…

EvoL “Get Up” – Vote for it Here!

 

Shortest video ever gets shortest blog post ever: EvoL – why this video so short?

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  1. From now on, I am going to redirect people who want to talk about the Lee Hi-gate, to this page.

    This is the email that I sent to Simon and Martina weeks ago, soon after they got upset. Simon read it and understands the situation much better now. We have discussed the matter further since then, but I’m not going to post any more of it, since it’s personal emails and stuff.

    But for now: This is how I view the situation.

    Please correct me if I misunderstood anything.

    “The first problem – The KMM choice
    I don’t particularly care about this problem. And I don’t think it’s the main issue either. The only reason I’m including this is so you understand what the fans are actually complaining about, and see things from their point of view.

    - There is a new system for the KMM.
    - Some fans tried to understand how it worked.
    - Other fans didn’t particularly care.

    Now, of the fans who tried to understand how it worked; they came up with some assumptions (in order of importance?):

    What some Nasties think you use as Guidelines to choosing a video for KMM

    - Girls > Guys
    - 1st place > 2nd place > 3rd place
    - S&M likes it > S&M doesn’t like it
    - Never been reviewed > Long time no review > Was reviewed recently
    - Good KMM material > Not much KMM material
    - Small fanbase > Large fanabse
    - Cool in Korea > Irrelevant in Korea
    - Been in Top 3 long time > Just released
    - Last chance of review > Possibly reviewed next week
    ….etc.

    Some of those assumptions were based on what you yourself said when you introduced the system. (might wanna go back and read/watch this http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/kpopcharts-update-40/ )
    Others were assumptions were what they made up themselves – which are likely to be incorrect. (especially the last ones)

    Ever since the new system was introduced, the fans that tried to understand it have been justifying your choices every week based on those assumptions. Usually, your choices would fulfill all, or most, of those ‘guidelines’.

    This is how it looked like from the (commenting) fans’ point of view:
    BAP – 1st place / Good KMM material / Cool in Korea (?) / Been in Top 3 long time / Last chance of review
    SHINee – 1st place / S&M likes it / Long time no review / Good KMM material / Cool in Korea (?)
    Lee Hi (It’s Over) – Girls / S&M likes it / Long time no review / Good KMM material / Cool in Korea
    UKiss – 1st place / Long time no review / Been in Top 3 long time
    Infinite – 1st place / S&M likes it / Long time no review / Good KMM material
    Lee Hi – Girls
    K.Will – 1st place / S&M likes it / Never been reviewed / Good KMM material / Small fanbase / Cool in Korea

    *Note that ‘S&M likes it’ and ‘Good KMM material’ depends mainly on the impression you give in the Kpop Chart Update.
    So, based on that, Lee Hi and UKiss actually had the least reasons to be chosen. (But nobody complained about UKiss, since they have the biggest fanbase on EYK.)

    This is how the fans saw the KMM choice last week:

    HYS: 1st place / Never been reviewed / Good KMM material / Been in Top 3 long time / Last chance of review
    Lee Hi: Girls
    Girl’s Day: Girls / S&M likes it / Never been reviewed / Good KMM material / Small fanbase / Been in Top 3 long time / Last chance of review.

    Do you understand now, why they were so surprised when you chose Lee Hi?

    Here’s the problem:
    The overwhelming sentiment was, “Why did you choose Lee Hi? We don’t understand!!”

    Knowing the problem helps you to fix it.

    Here’s the solution:
    All you needed to say was:
    “We chose Lee Hi because we really liked the song and video (S&M likes it), because we had some really interesting points to talk about, and some funny skits planned (Good KMM material), and because it’s really popular in Korea, including amongst our staff and friends (Cool in Korea)”

    I know that seems self explanatory, as you expressed those points in the review; but if you had replied to the complaints in that manner, the matter would have been resolved instantly. Trust me.

    Remember how I emailed you asking why? You said you liked it and your friends liked it. That was enough for me; I think that would’ve been enough for all most other Nasties as well.

    Lastly, this misunderstanding stemmed from being unclear about the new KMM system.

    Here’s an extra solution:
    Look at the guidelines/assumptions I listed above.
    - Are there any you disagree with?
    - If so, MAKE IT CLEAR. Tell your fans. If “S&M likes it” is the ONLY guideline, then say so!!
    - Otherwise, it’ll seem like you’re being inconsistent, and contradicting yourself.”

    If you’re clear from the start, I think most fans would be understanding. And if they’re not, well….they can go find some other YouTuber who will follow their demands.

    The second problem was between me, as a comment moderator, and Simon, as a commenter. He’s apologised and the issue has been resolved. That is all.

    • Thanks for putting this here, and for acting a bridge between the nasties and EYK

      • No problem. :) We discussed a lot more than that, but I just wanted you to know that the matter has been addressed, and you’re not being ignored.

    • I don’t know the entire story of Lee-Hi-gate, but I thought S&M’s choice that week was hmmm …. The thing is they have to make a fairly important judgement call almost every week. Under a deadline. For very fickle viewership. They were bound to slip up sooner or later. And with current system it will happen again.

      The proposal I made removes the need to make a judgement call every week. It prevents fan girls spam voting blindly for their favorite oppa, yet voting still does matter. Every 3rd week, S&M still have chance to review something they like. A concrete transparent rules shut many complainers.

      • Ah yes. Even they themselves said that the main drawback of that system was that they’d get a lot of complaints.
        But they said they could handle it. I guess they overestimated themselves ^^;

        They’re in the process of reevaluating the system again. Sometimes we just have to experiment with different strategies, and see which works best (I’ve changed my moderating guidelines about 20x since I started) :p

  2. WARNING: Evol ahead

    Ok, tbh, I wasn’t sure what to expect from Evol. I think everyone and their grandmother knows Stardom is probably pretty tied up at the moment- so, if nothing else, ‘Get Up’ is a valiant effort.
    Jucy and J-Da are awesome together, and I like that their partnership is reflected in the video (Jucy/J-Da vs. Yull/Say/Hayana).
    For the most part, the styling its great too. The girls look beautiful- it’s cleaner than 우린 좀 달라, and I think their new look might polarize some previous fans but (hopefully) gain them new ones.
    It’s not a ‘game changing’ release by any means, but it’s certainly more universal than their first effort. ^^

  3. you guys can review any video and i would enjoy it regardless. ^____^

  4. I totally agree with having K.Will appear in his videos more! Not just cameos! He’s amazing and perfect just the way he is <3 And his voice is totally, utterly and unbelievably godlike! GAAAH~!

  5. LOVE the K. Will video, it totally cracked me up. I had the hubs watch it (and bribed him with “One of the Sistar girls is in it” harhar) and he found it funny too! I was so happy to see K. Will in the video and then…not, lol. The song is SO spring/summer and while watching the whole ice cream scene I kept thinking how many cones they must’ve gone through. That and if it were me, I would not be able to stop myself from mopping up the dripping ice cream. Gah.

    GI’s song, while it’s not bombastically epic, nevertheless has its hook. I listened to it twice, then saw the live performance and yep, it echoed in my head hours later. I did find a live, sans autotune performance they did (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9teBRsewLU) and OK, color me impressed–their voices are good and frankly I prefer them without the autotune. I am also curious to see (via any interviews) if the swag carries itself outside of their performances.

    EvoL…the song is too short. WTHey. :/

  6. I love kpop chart updates. ^^ I get to see songs I normally wouldn’t even bother giving a listen too (Like GI’s… which I loved. I was also surprised by how much I liked Evol’s, which I shouldn’t be because I like all of their other album… anyhoo!)
    What I’m really shocked with is that GI is in the top three!!! :O
    Can’t wait to see who you review on Monday!
    I love that it’s a surprise and YOUR pick of the top three. ^^ More power to ya~

  7. I was wondering why no indie list was up yet lol I’ve only seen these videos now xD Can’t wait to see the interview with K.Will!! And now “I’m so curious yeahh!” about this north america thing you guys just mentioned :o what could it be??

  8. GI’s song sounds a lot like TOP’s “Bingu”.. So much that I had to watch it afterward to get my TOP fix.

    Oh Oh! And the GI fangroup name should totally be GI Tracts! Oh yeah digestion~!

  9. Anyone else getting a TOP Turn it Up vibe from Evol’s Get Up?

  10. Cyber_3

    I liked this update because I caught a gleam of something when Martina spanked Simon’s butt in this kpop chart update that has been sadly missing a lot in the last couple of months of kpop chart updates, indie chart updates and frankly, KMMs as well: Simon and Martina in the same frame, interacting with each other! You guise have great chemistry and play off of one another so well that that is part of the joy of watching you. It would be nice if more skits and even commentary were done together, even if one person is off-camera. As I’ve been plying my way through the archives lately, the lack in the recent videos is really noticeable compared with the older KMMs. The ones where a “character” comes in and “chats” with either Simon or Martina are the best! Judo chop!

    Also, the lovey-dovey scenes that sometimes lately make it into the bloopers of WANKS, FAPFAPs, or other videos – please don’t cut them _all_ out, that you’re such a loving couple is part of your adorable-ness, it’s okay to let it peek through now and again. I am sure that you will appreciate it yourself when you look back on your own videos one day.

    Last thing: please don’t worry so much about the swearing or “nastiness”. I don’t think that the swearing has EVER been excessive, and well, I like the nastiness and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone. While I let my 6-year-old watch most of your videos, I do pre-watch them to make sure that there isn’t too much to get him in trouble with at school and I accept full responsibility for any warping that results from his exposure. While I wouldn’t say that your content is “adult-only”, it is occasionally NSFW but that is a lot of its charm since I haven’t been a teenager in many years…..though it probably would have also attracted me in my teens anyways……. *^^*;;;;;;

  11. That ride in K. Will’s video is awful and painful and also the devil. I don’t know why it exists – it actually looks nicer in this video than in real life. It is intentionally dangerous. Do not ever go on it. Unless you like bruises an pain, that is.

    Actually, considering all of the abandoned parks in Korea that closed because of death-inducing dangerous rides, I’m amazed that it does still exist.

    • Oh dear this was exactly what I was afraid of. This will/has already created anti’s and unfortunately I totally can understand why. My worry is that S&M don’t seem to grasp the gravity of Music Monday’s ‘Lee-Hi-gate’ and use it as some one said below, to learn from it and ‘really’ listen to a substantial amount of their fans. It is not Lee-Hi-gate that has created the problem, but the way S&M have handled the fall out that has. I don’t want to loose reasonable fellow nasties :( I just hope this can be resolved and we can all go back to enjoying hilarious videos and fun.

      • People seem to think that because we didn’t post an entire blog post dedicated to last week’s music monday fiasco that we are ignoring people’s comments and that we don’t care what they think. Don’t worry, we read all the comments, both reasonable and angry, all the tumblr posts, all the facebook posts, etc etc, and we are thinking of a way to keep people from feeling so upset next time we pick a video that we want, regardless if they are a rookie, super popular, in 3rd place, a boy, a girl, or a group we already reviewed. But the problem is, what’s done is done, so it’s not like we can rewind time and pick a different video, and we can’t apologize, because we actually wanted to review Lee Hi over the other two videos. Really, we can’t do anything now except mull over how we can prevent people from feeling disappointed in the future.

        • Oh thanks for the reply guise, and good job on this weeks music Monday! By the way although I am not enamoured of the new way the Music Mondays review is chosen, I accept that its better for you guys to review what you feel passionate about and that it increases diversity of what is reviewed (with perhaps the exception of last week). I love YG and Lee Hi so had no problems with last Monday. The issue I had was with your comments on the reaction to the disappointment and the near censoring of negative comments that was proposed, you will find that is also what the author linked above alludes to. However I don’t think you are actually following though with this, and I notice below that you will announce which was number 1 and explain why this was not reviewed So I am a happy bunny and I think this will appease a lot of other fans as well :) This couldn’t have been a great week for you guys, so sending you lots of fluffy happy cyber vibes!!

    • the truth is out there

      EYK should just add a disclaimer to their videos: “those who are easily offended please do not watch” I think a lot of people forget EYK is just a place for fun and to make fun of videos while also giving their two cents about it.

    • Simon and Martina have finally ‘made’ it big. They have anti-Nasties I propose we call them “The Yummies”. Y’all know that people that are making an impact it haters.

      Keep it up S&M! You are finally so awesome that you have people that actually take TIME OUT OF THERE FRICKIN LIFES TO SLANDER you guys.

      P.S.- and I bet these are the same people that dislike the Anti-Fan culture in K-pop

  12. I actually agree with Simon and Martina. I rather see a video that they really want to do a review for cuz they enjoy it and it turns out great. There are lots of videos that I would like them to review, so I just keep voting and hope they get to the top 3 (most of the time they don’t) and if it gets reviewed great and if it doesn’t I just keep trying.

  13. Someone made a reference to “Animal Farm” on last week’s Kpop Music Monday and it completely went over my head (even though I have read the book). This week, after reading the comments it just clicked. Haha.

  14. Does anyone else feel like producers are increasingly releasing girl groups with a ‘different’ image (and most rookie girl groups are now all ‘tomboyish’ or ‘badass’ or watever)? I think that maybe they see/think the ‘cute’ market (which is the traditional girl group market) is completely taken by SNSD (and some other popular ‘cute’ image bands) and have all decided that the best route to do is to ‘follow’ in 2NE1s footsteps by trying to be/appear original/something new (I dont mean they are trying to COPY 2NE1′s style or sound or anything – just trying to use their route to fame) – problem is, cos everyone had that idea, the rookie groups aren’t appearing to be as original as they hoped (Also, 2NE1 had the support of YG Ent (and specifically Big Bang) and the support of a main company is always the best method.) This is all just me thinking aloud though.

  15. I voted for K.Will but not cos i’m a fan. He’s hard working does a good job, pays attention to his fans and home-made youtube channels <3 ginormous respect to him!

  16. i am starting to wonder, is someone going to send a giant knight piece to simon and martina via a fan mail package…..

  17. “Speaking of filling up, I’m going to go eat some food.” hahah love it!

  18. I say, EYK either picks a video or just leaves it up to fans. Pll are kinda disappointed and I understand why. It’s too obvious they want to review K.Will so their fans will probably vote for him. As long as he in the top three, Simon and Martina will review K.Will. It really is no point that anyone else vote.

    Basically its like telling pll that they get to decide on a video but the system is set up so that they don’t really get to decide. It makes pll furious and its best to keep it simple. Either the public decides of Simon and Martina does.

  19. I think it would be a good Idea to make a comment section for those of us that might have some questions about KMM selection process. Were there not hundreds of comments only wanting an explanation from your fans deleted? Comments that were all respectful. Some maybe combative only because some of your fans thought it was disloyal to question your choice. I think it would of been more respectful to all your fans if you had also spoken to them and let them know that it was OK for us to have questions regarding the new system. I can understand you wanting feed back from the video you reviewed. But there needs to be a place we can discuss your selections especially because it’s so new. I think you are running the risk of alienating a lot of loyal fans. Their only crime was asking you,” Why Lee Hi?”. It doesn’t want to make me stick around having my comments deleted because I didn’t know where else to ask these questions.

    • I think from now on, if we pick a video that wasn’t the #1 video, we’ll just have to give an explanation as to why we choose it over the others within the music monday.

      • thisisjustforfunval

        I personally think that is a wise decision. You guys always said that you would acknowledge who was in first when you first presented the Top 3 idea to Nasties and choose another video over it. I think it’s good to keep with that proposal y’all made ^_^

      • I think that’s a good solution. Hope we can all put this behind us and start enjoying EYK for what it really is: Fun. Not drama.

      • Thank you for replying. I think that would really help. If through all this I haven’t mentioned it. I really do love the work you do.

  20. It’s funny because GI is trying to sound kinda tom boyish, but when I heard EVOL’s song I thought it was more manly/manry sounding. If you look at the lyrics though GI takes the manly cake. Anyway stoked for der Music Monday! It’s reasurring to hear ya’ll’s opinion and know I’m not the only one who thinks strange things about Korean music videos.
    Or the only one who watches Korean music videos.

    sighhhhh it’s hard out here for a pimp/nasty.

  21. When you were explaining the “Sorry I couldn’t save you” meme, I was like, “What the heck is that? Oh well, I guess I’m too white washed now.” (And I mean it in the less-offending way possible.) Then 10 seconds later I realize it’s “ji-mot-mi”. 지못미 – 지켜주지 못해서 미안해. I see it in variety shows a few times whenever idols embarrass themselves like dancing badly.

  22. I would like to thank you, Simon and Martina, for broadening my Kpop horizon through reviews of various artists like you’ve done so far. I do understand the reasoning behind the disappointment for “Rose” , even though I have to admit Lee Hi intrigues me because after Psy she’s the second YG artist I like when I don’t like any others!

    As for this update, hehe, love the Final Fantasy comment. That was the cutest thing ever :P

  23. ☆pallavi☆

    Hi Simon and Martina…I’m a HUGE Nasty. I religiously watch every one of your videos every week and honestly I watch KMM for you, not the artists/songs. However, I was kind of surprised when you decided to review LHY’s Rose. I mean, your skits were amazing and absolutely hilarious (and I LOVE the song), but I still was left with this uncomfortable feeling because you didn’t pick HYS’s song. Now, I am definitely not a fan of HYS (I didn’t even know he existed before he was 1st on the charts), but I still felt that it was somewhat unfair that y’all didn’t review his song. I know you changed the rules of voting to make the kmm videos more diverse, which I thought was a great idea. However, since LHY was just reviewed 2 weeks ago, HYS had never been reviewed before, and he had been in the top 3 for 18 days, I honestly thought you would review him. I understand that you guys are biased as well, and may have enjoyed Rose better than the Art of Seduction, but I also think you should respect your fans’ opinions to some extent. Eatyourkimchi requires fan support for it to prosper and targeting people that voiced disappointment (which was constructive because people were not mad cause it was not their bias but because they felt cheated by the system) in your video and blog post just alienates your viewers. It is understandable that this disappointment might have felt hurtful, but your retaliation was equally hurtful. Although I will continue being a dedicated nasty, it is hard to say how many people would stop being one because of this event. And as a nasty that cares, I wouldn’t want to see that :(

    • This is exactly how I felt. I am not an HYS fan but I felt he deserved the last weeks KMM with how long people voted to keep him in the top spot.

    • “Eatyourkimchi requires fan support for it to prosper and targeting people that voiced disappointment (which was constructive because people were not mad cause it was not their bias but because they felt cheated by the system) in your video and blog post just alienates your viewers. It is understandable that this disappointment might have felt hurtful, but your retaliation was equally hurtful. Although I will continue being a dedicated nasty, it is hard to say how many people would stop being one because of this event. And as a nasty that cares, I wouldn’t want to see that :(”

      Completely seconding this. I also take a different mental approach to EYK than I do to some other YouTubers I follow because EYK is so reliant on fan support. It’s not like, for example, A Dose of Buckely, which is completely Buckley’s hobby and he’d be doing if he had no followers or a million. For EYK, this is a business, which means that if it fails, if the fans (essentially customers in this case) are driven away, etc. that certainly risks the company and their livelihoods. While I don’t want S&M to be unhappy, I also don’t want them to scare away the people that are even making it possible for EYK to exist. As a fan, I want my TL;DR Wednesdays and FAPFAPs and WANKs. :P

  24. I really like EvoL’s song in a really weird way. I’m not sure why, but something about it just makes me really bob my head.

    Oh, I also wanted to say that I think this was a really great KpopCharts Update this week! I still like watching all of the other ones, but something about this Update was a lot better then usual. I think what was so great about it is that the video on the chart were not the usual Kpop music video. K.Will’s was actually funny, and GI and EvoL are both groups that are trying for something else other than the “cutie-sexy” look. Sure, it may not always work out that well, but I think it’s great that companies are starting to change it up.

    No Indie Charts? D: I guess I’ll have to get over it, because K.Will is just that awesome.

  25. I think some of the confusion arises from the reasons why people watch your Kpop Mondays. When I open the Kpop Monday video, I know I am going to get a funny and creation commentary on the video and the song which brightens my Monday. Then, we all get to have a big collaborative discussion on the the Kpop video and your video. I am a person who is grateful that you guys introduce me to great songs and videos, but in no way am I a huge, diehard Kpop fan, nor am I a diehard fan of any single group or artist. I expect you guys to review amazing and interesting songs, which sometimes coincide with people’s biases. Not every song released by your favorite group is gonna be fantastic: I think most Nastys realize this, others still become blinded by their biases. However, I do appreciate that people were talking about voting for a variety of people for you, Simon and Martina, to review. I certainly look at the past videos you have reviewed in season 3 to determine who I think deserves their chance, and hopefully that goes with the best song/video combination. It is a balancing act, of the two reasons I just gave, one might be favored over the other in different weeks. In the end, some bias has to win because of this system. I personally like the system: it makes sure that a video which is reviewed is tagged, we get to vote the top 3, and you, Simon and Martina, get to ultimately pick from these. You are in charge of making the Kpop Music Mondays so it makes sense, and I think it is fair enough. I will only comment about my disappointment if I really deem it necessary, I am very picky about what I say, and I would much rather give a positive review. Thanks to anyone who read my long post, I salute you.

  26. I know I should have read all the comments to see if I was repeating something that someone else already said but I could not read any more. While I love Heo Young Saeng’s video and would have liked to see what you guys did with it, I also understand and respect that this is your blog and your site. I watch and follow you guys to get your opinions on videos and food and everything that you do. Why would I want to watch something that only mirrored my opinions? That would be sooo boring! And I cannot count how many times you guys have caused me to look again at something and see a different side. Sometimes I change my views but sometimes I don’t and that is just fine. I appreciate that others may not feel the way I do, but can we not all be grownups and not stomp our feet and pitch a fit. Can we please move on and let Simon and Martina do what they do so well and show us another side of things? I love you guys and have enjoyed every single thing that you have done because of your wonderful quirkiness and attitudes. Please, please, please don’t let nayayers (not sure if this is a real word but..) change you guys!!

    On a side note, I cannot wait for your K. Will interview!

    • You were close, it’s naysayers. You left out the “s”. Your comment was spot on in my opinion and less convoluted than mine. I too scroll down so that I don’t copy comments, but I agree, there were too many long ones so I had to stop.

  27. i think that people are forgetting the whole point of simon and martina posting these videos. i mean, i always enjoy their videos because i get to have a bit of a laugh or listen to a bit of deep meaningful (sometimes meaningful, sometimes completely bonkers) chat about symbolism in music videos. i mean, do you need their opinion on EVERY favorite kpop music video out there? you have your own opinion, make use of it and comment on the video :)
    dont take it all out on simon and martina, they’re working as hard as they can to keep up with what they’re doing already to try and make us, as fans and as an audience, happy.

    Fighting simon and martina :) keep up the good work xx

  28. I don’t vote on videos I like. I vote on videos that I think EYK can make most entertaining. Sometimes they get to the top and sometimes they don’t. Not everyone feels this way, it becomes a contest to get their favorite group to win (whether its here or on any of the other voting programs) and to me that kind of sucks. Super fan groups will always win and the less popular groups don’t stand a chance, even if their videos are amazing. In the end, I watch KMM to have EYK entertain me. I guess I don’t take this as seriously as some other people do.

  29. I like the K.Will more then the last one. And I thought the last one was EvoL “Get Up,” so how come the video was K. Will again? Which I like, of course, but odd?

  30. I don’t understand the One Direction comment/comparison. Was it just a joke? Someone explain it to me D:

  31. EVol’s song is short but *awesome*. :p

  32. Dang it. You mean I actually have to watch the update video this week?

    Jk, I usually do, but like, way later, just because of the way my schedule normally is on Saturdays. I normally just make do with reading the blog post to get a sense of your thoughts on the MVs. By random stroke of luck, I actually have time today! For that I say, good timing.

  33. OnigiriBunnie

    I just want to say that I like the new system. I think it gives everyone more freedom. When you guys are passionate about reviewing a song the review is a lot of fun to watch but when people constantly vote up the same 5 groups it gets a little boring. I love the groups don’t get me wrong but I think it is definitely a lot more fun this way. When you get a lot of fans, then come the trolls. I hope you don’t take it to heart too much, and know your Nasties are behind you <3

    Vote for K.Will <3

  34. Derp, I’m just happy I get to find out new songs released and notice k-pop groups I never knew existed. I thank eatyourkimchi for that :D

  35. i think k.wills mv is AMAZING for a kmm i love to watch it!! waiting for monday to come ^^

  36. Also I think I know one of the reasons people get so hung up on 1 – Who’s picked for KMM and 2 – Whether negative things are said about them. Because there’s a voting system, I think there might be a contest feel to it… which would make the reviewed one, in people’s minds, the winner. “The winner of the Kpop music monday for the first week of April award!!” as it were. Then, when a runner up gets treated as if they have “won,” or if the music video gets criticized rather than patted on the back, people feel that there is some kind of mad injustice and go around smashing things.

    When. In reality. It’s a review show. And you guys pick what’s interesting to talk about. What sparks ideas for skits, or would be hilarious to laugh about, or has a bunch of awesome details to point out. It’s not a “best of,” like the EYK awards were.

    I really think that’s where the confusion kicks in.

  37. thisisjustforfunval

    Wow, I finally got around to watch GI’s MV and I really like that song. It really isn’t a sound you hear many girl groups doing and it makes that a win in my heart. I know GI is being promoted as the tomboy girl group and compared to the majority of girl groups out there I can really see how they fit that title. I’m not sure I would have checked this out if it wasn’t for you guys. Think I’m heading to iTunes to buy this song now!

  38. Hey guise! Just want to take a second to say that your MM (and especially TL;DRs and WANKS… and FAPFAPS…. *boinks fingers together* and IMMs… and Open the Happies … heh) are the highlights of my week. I actually started watching your TL;DRs first a few years ago because I’m planning on moving to Korea (in July! Finally! Woo!), but I eventually got into Kpop and the MMs as well. The point of it all is, I really enjoy them, regardless of who is being reviewed or whatever. Your work is always, always worth it. Sometimes you hit it just right and I end looking insane for bursting out laughing in library. Or choking on whatever food I’m eating in my vague attempts to distract myself from the deliciousness of your FAPFAPs. (Distraction always fails) (My JONs -jealous of noms- disease is progressing horribly). I’m not really too much of a commenter, but I think I’mma do more of that now. I know that *this* particular comment didn’t reaaally match the video exactly, but it seemed appropriate.

    I loved finding out about the “Sorry I couldn’t save you!” meme. That’s hilarious.

    Also, curious. Does anyone know what particular bed all of the nasties who voted in Lee Hi to third place are hiding under?

  39. I always read the blog before watching your videos…I don’t know why I do this lol but it always happens. Anyhoo S&M, I’m about to watch your KPop Chart Update and I promise to say something nice

  40. Poor simon and martina. I really liked Lee Hi’s rose so i’m glad you reviewed it :)

  41. o.o

    So anyway I liked last weeks review, although I can no longer watch Rose without screaming ROSE CRUSHER in a really gruff man voice that I don’t naturally possess. Seriously guys, that’s not cool – making that voice hurts.

    You guys do a great job, really. Honestly, you guys haven’t reviewed anyone I was really interested in lately, but it’s kind of a good thing because it makes me pay attention to groups that I wouldn’t normally give the time of day. For instance, I was one of the few who didn’t even bother watching The Chaser (I think I have some kind of grudge against Infinite, but I don’t really know why I mean I watch their dramas o.o) until you guys reviewed them, even though I was voting my heart out for NU’EST. Because of that review, I actually try to give Infinite a chance because you made me realize that I actually LIKE The Chaser.

    So thank you for doing the stuffs you do, and thanks for being bias (no really). You can’t please everyone, it’s not possible, and people will always be butthurt over something or another.

    Just thought you’d like a comment from the light side, since it seems like the only people who feel the need to comment on the ‘issue’ really just want to vent frustrations.

  42. I watch Doctor Who so no, there was no mind blowing.I know that from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, time is more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly… timey-wimey… stuff…

  43. I miss the surprise Playlist Mode!

  44. KWILLLLLLLLL <3333333333333

  45. Someone made a gif out of all the buttshots and it is seriously the best gif to look at while listening to get up xD It matches the rythemn so well.
    Anyway i know you are disappointed with last weeks comment mostly being about not having reviewed Heo Youngsaeng or Girls day. How about you write one or two sentences about why you chose a song over another in the blog post? At least I sometimes want to know why you didn’t choose a song.

  46. You know guise, sometimes I wonder if your Kpop update is actually neccessary to do (don’t get me wrong, I totally love it, just thought that you already have a lot to do and those who want to vote can find all the videos on the charts). But I have to admit that it brings value into my kpop life since I don’t watch girl group videos that much and thus miss out on a lot of them. I do watch them though when they are in your playlists and I’m totally loving the two songs you included this week. So thanks a lot! And please don’t ever stop making awesome videos :)

  47. I am a HUGE EYK fan. I am an open YG stan and love Lee Hi. But I have to say, I was ‘pleasantly’ very surprised they did Lee Hi last week, precisely because she was reviewed only a few weeks back. I loved the review, but was actually mentally prepared for something else to be reviewed (was hoping for girls day, love the song and video, but did think there was not much to make a fun review out of, really didn’t like Heo Young Saeng’s song or video tho, so all in all i was glad they did Lee Hi) . I saw the disappointed comments and could very easily understand why people were disappointed.

    This problem stems from the change in which video is chosen for Music Monday, I am among those who do not like the new system, in fact I hardly ever vote cause it seems pointless if its not the first one that will get chosen. I always thought there should be a review of number 1 AND S&M’s favourite song. But I appreciated it would be too much work. So now I check who is reviewed and either view it or don’t view it depending on whether I like the song or not. I find commenting about ‘why was this not reviewed’ etc… extremely childish. That being said, I am really surprised and little disappointed in S&M post and comments below basically telling people what they can and can not write in comments…what about freedom of speech and all that? What I do get is S&M seem to be very upset about the comments cause they felt they worked really hard etc… but I have to say your blog post and comments below may alienate some of your nasties/fans… This is form a nasty that cares.

    • They want constructive comments and a lot of the comments don’t even get into the content of the review, which is unfortunate because that’s the point of posting a review. Giving feedback and getting it in return. The people that are complaining aren’t providing anything that we would want to see as we scroll through the comment section. It’s not really about freedom of speech, but knowing when and where to post those types of comments.

      I’m glad they’re doing the top 3 system, because even though I may like a group’s song, I know that S&M wouldn’t enjoy making the video at all. The videos that should be reviewed should at least have some content to work off of, and there’s a history of videos that don’t have much content at all and props to S&M for finding something to make a ten-odd minute video with!

      ✧・゚: *✧・゚:* (◕ω◕✿)/ *:・゚✧*:・゚✧

  48. Hello Simon, Martina, Soo Zee and Leigh! :)

    This kpopchart update has an equal potential for KMM. :)

    Thank you for introducing us to some awesome songs :D. I’m totally into GI “Beatles” , K. Will’s “Love Blossom” is a cool song :)

    Great job!! I’m so excited for those meetings you mentioned you’re going to have! :D

    ♥♥ ♥ ♥

  49. Broke out of my shell made that gigantic post earlier, why not continue with one more.

    Of the three this week, I think K.Will’s Love Blossom would be THE PERFECT review for you guys. Uh it’s just screams “EYK review me!” I really hope you guys had a wonderful time interviewing K.Will. He seems like he would be fun to talk to.

  50. Where is PLAYYYYYYLIIIIST MOOOOOOODE?!

    • Yeah… I don’t know why it doesn’t work… it does that sometimes then it gets fixed and it goes back – . – I usually come to read the blog then go watch the playlist on yt.

  51. I’m a fan but I don’t vote so my bias doesn’t lean anyway. I just love watching your videos and go with your flow, so hopefully I can seem a little less bias about my suggestion right now. In fact I’m not sure I’ve ever commented before today :-P

    I know Monday was hard for you guys, it seemed very hard for your fans as well. To me reading comments there honestly seemed to be some confusion as to who was in first place when the polls closed. The majority of comments I saw was that Nasties saw Heo Young Saeng was in 1st place but your own comment said Lee Hi was. I think this was the honest reason for so much confusion and disappointment. It seemed as if Lee Hi was chosen over an artist never reviewed before, and this I honestly feel lead to the influx of disappointed comments. Having read your comment, I know now that wasn’t the case but I’m not sure everyone saw that reply/comment you made. I’m sure some are still unaware that, that was the case.

    SO my thought is, may be you guys could add an edit to your Kpop updates, or in your KMM blog post or somewhere else post a screen shot of your administrator page or a make quick list in your blog so fans know for sure who’s in the top 3, but more specifically who’s in 1st. Not everyone can be there to see who’s in the top 3 when the polls closed due to worldwide time zones.

    It’s just a thought the help both your and your devoted fans. Hope this isn’t an upsetting post for you guys. I love everything you do and for all the hard work, laughs, kpop and Korea you bring into my life ^_^

    • I mentioned a similar observation in the last music. Monday comments. There seems to be a delay between the results Simon and Martina see and the results the viewers see. So when people looked at the result at a certain time after the voting closed it still had HYS in first place, so when they went to watch music Monday and saw it was on LH it might have looked like the veto was used again for LH. However if you looked at the chart at a different time you would have seen LH was in first place.

  52. I just want to say that I think asking viewers to save certain comments for a different space is completely warranted. As a viewer who was fairly impartial to the songs in this past week’s Top 3, it was a little frustrating to see a massive number of comments complaining about Lee HI getting picked and almost nothing about the actual KMM. I thought the KMM was really spot on, funny, and well put together and I wish that had been discussed more this past week… Admittedly, I was slightly hoping Girl’s Day would get picked last week, but, other than being able to vote, I know that the final choice really comes down to who you guys want to review! So while I can understand some of the disappointment associated with the video I wanted not getting picked, I was still super excited to see your review of Lee Hi’s Rose because: (a) it’s a great song that’s different than her last two singles (b) it had a very unique video and (c) it’s more fun to watch your KMMs when you guys are into what you’re discussing. I could be totally off, but based off the recent videos, t seems like you guys are having more fun reviewing songs lately (at least it seems that way to me) and I think that’s more fun to watch than you guys puttering through a video you don’t want to review (that being said, I still think you guys do a fantastic job on videos you didn’t like in the past).

    I sincerely hope my comment doesn’t upset anyone who left a comment voicing their disappointment last week (I do not want to start an EYK viewer war or something…), but I wanted to let you (Simon & Martina) know that I completely agree with your statements about the response to last week’s KMM and just send you guys some love. Thanks for all the awesome work you do! :)

  53. I’m in same page with G.I:s Beatles with you guys. I want to love the song but autotune just keeps bugging me. I don’t like autotune anywhere, sometimes I can shake it off and still enjoy song that has it but I still think that the song’d be better without. But anyway I love G.I:s style and especially their dance, finally girl group who does cool moves and don’t use their sex appeal in their dance!

  54. thisisjustforfunval

    You know what is really incredible about this weeks Music Monday? No matter who wins this week, it will be an artist never reviewed for a K-Pop Music Monday. I love this thought more than anything else in the world right now at this very moment. More fans will be introduced to one of these incredible singers or bands. Happy dance! ^_^

  55. Isabel Ruby

    ooh really love the “haummmmmmmmm” in the background of the GI song. kinda funny how both GI and Evol used boxing imagery in their videos….. made me think of GD and 2ne1 though……

  56. Sandra Darling

    So I love Final Fantasy 7!!!! It is definitely the best out of all of them. Oh, and yeah, GI’s song did remind of that chase scene. I thought GI’s song was really catchy. I think this is one of those songs that would really grow on me.
    Also, note to the girl in K.Will’s video: Never take ice cream from strange children!!!!!!!!! It could be poisoned!!!!!!!!! ;)

  57. Hi Simon and Martina, I get that you probably were dismayed that so many people expressed their disappointment last week that you did not review Heo Young Saeng’s song but surely people have the right to express their opinion and disappointment? (No, I was not one of those who posted a comment, but I did read the comments with interest and thought that the majority of the comments posted were polite and respectful).

    Yes, its your blog and your site, but you invite your fans to actively participate in the voting and the site and you have also said many times yourself in a variety of interviews you are nothing without your fans, so surely your fans have a right to express an opinion even if they disagree with you. While I can understand your frustration at so many people expressing their disappointment, surely its can also be seen as a positive thing? That is: that you have so many passionate fans who follow your website and videos, who care about not only kpop but also want to hear what you have to say about their favourite singers and groups.

    In all likelihood, I will now probably get digitally lynched by some Eat Your Kimchi fans for sticking up for those who expressed their disappointment about the last kpop Monday review but oh well … c’est la vie. But I will end with saying, I love your website and your videos – I watch pretty much everything you post and read your blogs, as well as read or listen to the various interviews you have done with the media. I credit both of you as being responsible for my growing kpop and Hallyu Wave addiction, which began after seeing one of your videos with Meemers as a baby. So thank you for opening up the world of kpop for me, I am so glad you did! And thank you for all the work you do!

    • I think these kind of posts aren’t what Simon and Martina are referring to, believe it’s more along the lines of “omg why didn’t you review so and so? omg so ___ bias” And yes I agree expressing disappointment on something should be allowed but also take it from their perspectives, they work so hard to make everyone happy and try to make things fair and all they get is more negativity that drowns out the people that are happy and excited with all the changes. I for one am one of those floaters that go with the flow I haven’t really been disappointed with S&M and their decisions mostly because I can’t say I have just one particular group I am like “omg __ oppa, omg ___ unni” probably because I’m an older fan of kpop.

      But I’m starting to divert from what I’m saying, Simon and Martina aren’t saying don’t express your disappointment but be more constructive and critical with it instead of throwing an e-tantrum and threaten to stop watching their videos because that’s really hurtful to say to someone who’s main purpose is to entertain you and has put so much time and effort in bringing something you and everyone else to enjoy.

      • I think i agree however not very much LOL i mean most ppl who were disappointed were not even HYS fans i think most ppl believe that HYS and Girls Days fans were the ones complaining, however it so not true must ppl were disappointed cause they expected a new review , not again a review iof the same artist, many of us thought that with this new system of chosing between the top 3 will give other artist that never made it in to the KMM a chance , however it has not been like that, yes S&M work hard and everybody appreciate that but ppl can also voice what they think,specially cause S&M said many times that they do all this for fans

      • Although I saw a few cases of people throwing some e-tantrums, most people actually expressed their disappointment in a very polite and constructive way. You can check the top comments for that video yourself.

        And I agree with Stormrox in that a large percentage of people weren’t even HYS/Girl’s Day fans. Most people were of the opinion that 1) those two videos would have made for a more interesting KMM because of their content, 2) they have never been reviewed before, and 3) Lee Hi was just reviewed two weeks ago.

        I love S&M and I really want to thank them for what they do. However, I do not believe they have the right to tell their fans what they can and cannot do.

        • Even though S&M said they do this for their fans, but I still think S&M have every right to do whatever they want. They could even review videos that are not in the top 3. Because they are using the Top 3 in their KMM, they are respecting the fans decisions.

    • I don’t want this to seem like a “love everything we do” kind of comment. That’s definitely not what we want. If people are disappointed, we want to hear it, so we can know how to make things better.

      The problem is, people didn’t express disappointment in what we did. They didn’t say that we messed up a name, or dropped some frames, or had awkward pauses, or lame jokes, or anything pertaining to the video. They expressed disappointment in what we didn’t do, and that’s not something that we can in any way prevent. We didn’t get how we could improve things. The comments were just people upset that we didn’t do what they wanted us to do. The only way for us to make things better, in that case, is to “do the video I wanted you to do because I didn’t approve of your choice.” That’s not constructive criticism.

      The nature of Kpop Music Monday, though, is that every week people are disappointed. Every week there are 10 other bands that don’t get reviewed. Are we going to read about how disappointed people are every week? How shitty is that going to be?

      From our perspective, we put out two videos that day, Lee Hi and 4Minute. We worked for 16 hours, ate poorly, rested barely, and came home when the sun started rising. It seems like, to us, that it was such a bloody waste for us to put in that much effort, if all we see is upset comments because we didn’t do the video some people wanted us to do.

      Problem is, the people that comment aren’t the majority of viewers. There are still lots of people that gave the video a thumbs up over a thumbs down, still a lot of people who engaged with the video in the comments rather than engaging with their feelings of disappointment, so we won’t be wholly upset.

      I don’t know how to end this comment.

      • You guys were amazing last week and very funny…So far right now you guys are my top Youtubers I go to everyday… You guys work to much and for people to be complaining for reviewing something that they didn’t want is not fair… ~Fighting~ ^-^ Love you guys :)

      • I think you might be misunderstanding why people were upset. I personally think people were upset not because you did not choose their bias, but because you seemed to have chosen yours. I think people were under the impression that the top 3 selection was suppose to increase the diversity of who got reviewed, but in this case it did the opposite. And I also think that the comments were constructive and are possible to learn from because now you know no matter how popular the artist is EYK fans don’t appreciate it when the same artist gets reviewed over and over again over others–in this case Lee Hi has never not been reviewed. I really enjoy what you do and I am only commenting because I care about the site, otherwise I would not have bothered, so please do not take this negatively but as my opinion.

        • You do still see, though, that this is a comment not on what we did in the video, and how it sucks, for us, to read as a comment? It’s not a matter of choosing their bias: we’re not building strawmen arguments and trying to say that people are butthurt fans: what we’re saying is that people are still complaining about who they would have preferred for us to do, which sucks to read as a comment.

          And – yes – we will chose our biases. We’re two people. We’re biased. We’re not a company, we’re not a faceless machine. We’re two people who like some things more than other things. We like Lee Hi’s song and video more than the other videos.

        • thisisjustforfunval
          thisisjustforfunval

          “We’re two people who like some things more than other things. We like Lee Hi’s song and video more than the other videos.”

          You should never be afraid to say that very sentence. I thank you for your open honesty by making that statement. This is part of the reason you made it top 3 now and I think y’all have been to afraid to say that very statement. I think Nasties appreciate that open honesty more than saying nothing at all.

        • I totally agree and I am happy now that Simon and Martina just said it out loud. I don’t know why but I had the feeling that the last KMM lacked something and I got the impression they just chose LeeHi because they thought she has more fans or whatsoever. But now that they said they liked Lee Hi’s video more than the others, my disappointment just faded away :) I just think the disappointment of many could habe been based on the question “why” because they, like me, might not have liked Lee Hi’s video this much. And I know one could assume that Simon and Martina would only choose the video they liked most, but until they say it is like that you cannot be sure :P
          Overall I just wanted to hear the reason for the choice (after all it’s a habit of humans to question things ^^). So thank you, Simon and Martina, for saying it!

        • Cyber_3

          I think that people _are_ commenting on this video since you mentioned how much you were upset in it.

          If you are biased (totally understandable), why don’t you just select 3 videos at the beginning of the week, put it in text in the KMM bloopers, any of which you would like to do a KMM for, pump them to the top of the charts with an S&M bias and then let people vote from those 3 which to do, and pick the winner? You would then be happy no matter the winner and everyone would get to vote on a video that had a chance to win. I am serious here, not sarcastic. Let the rest of the charts influence your choice for next week, or not, I think they are still interesting for people to comment and vote on for the sake of seeing what the community thinks of various songs.

          Previously, you gave the voters the control of #1 before and were you were not happy. You took the ability to bias the vote back (and let’s face it, if you ask for Nasties to vote for a song, it will make it to the top 3 for sure within the week so it’s almost total control of the song) and then some of the Nasties were unhappy. I understand that the kpop charts generate a lot of hits/revenue but asking people to vote makes them think that their vote matters (otherwise, why vote?) and then giving them only the illusion that their vote matters when you have total control is kind of vexing. Take the control of the choice of songs but give the voters input into preference and perhaps the rules will be more clear. I think a lot of the disappointment is generated by a lack of understanding.

          Also, I would like to put the “disappointment” in perspective because I’m pretty sure that, despite the disappointment on song choice, most people liked the KMM you did do and still love you and your work. Even if your only subscribers were your parents, invariably they wouldn’t all vote for the same song and would not be 100% happy with you KMM 100% of the time, but they would still love you and appreciate your work and laugh at your jokes. If you think of this Nasty community as family, maybe that will help to take these types of criticisms as well-meant and indirectly appreciative, which I believe that they are. If you were to compare the disappointed comment posters usernames to their overall comments, I think that you would find an overwhelming percentage of the comments were positive and that many people posted their appreciation and disappointment separately so as to not muddy the waters/to make the comments more readable. Just take the criticism for what it was: opinions, and then move on.

          There also is no other place here to comment except on the videos. I totally understand that having full blown forums is a ton to manage but it doesn’t leave people a lot of choice where to comment sometimes. It might be nice to have the ability to thumbs up/thumbs down the actual video, instead of just the comments, to get a more balanced view of what people thought of it. Maybe post a marker comment for this at the beginning of the thread.

          I will disclaim that I am ok with whatever you do and that it is totally not my choice anyways. I’m just trying to be helpful because I think that you are both very nice and I don’t like seeing you in distress. I may have posted my suggestion quickly here but I have thought long and hard on it over the last weeks as I have seen what was happening after you changed the charts.

          Have a nice day and thanks for this kpop chart update because I don’t think that I would have watched K. Will’s video otherwise (since it’s a ballad) and it IS very funny. I already really liked Evol’s video and was intrigued by GI’s.

          Cyber_3 – just trying to be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem.

        • *hugs* I don’t know if e-hugs make you uncomfortable but I just felt the urge to do that.

        • Cyber_3

          Bring It! HUGS BACK!

        • Natz, I don’t know if e-hugs make you uncomfortable, but *hugs*
          You’re awesome.

          @cyber_3:disqus You’re awesome too. I really like both of your comments on the subject.

        • Hi Simon and Martina; I’m also one of those people who didn’t like your choice for last week’s KMM. You know what I did about it? I drank a cup of concrete and HARDENED THE F* UP!! (end death metal voice ke ke ke)

          I’m personally voting the heck out of Evol cos their song and MV are full of gems; sass coupled with hippity-hop swag and funky funky club beats. I can see a butt close up at the next KMM before it’s revealed to be the lovely Seungri time for kisses girl XD I also love GI’s image! If there can be androgynous boy bands then it makes sense to have androgynous girl bands too; with less autotune thanks but lots of electro-funk beats!

          P.S HUGS!! Love you both long time!

        • maivalentine

          Hey! I just wanted to say thanks for being cool enough to reply/address criticism instead of ignoring it!! Don’t be disheartened! :)

        • I think it sucks for your fans to be told that the top 3 will be used to increase diversity, and then see it being used to decrease diversity instead.

          While I sympathize with you wanting your job to be fun and being creatively motivated, I also sympathize with all of your fans who are supporting your business. Instead of blaming your fans for being unhappy after you spent a lot of time and effort on something that fell flat and didn’t resonate with everyone, it seems like it would be better to use this as a learning opportunity. For example: clearly, how your fans have interpreted your intentions with the top 3 is not how you intend to use, and have been using, the top 3. That’s something you can address.

          You can also take into consideration that your biases are not necessarily going to match your fans’ biases. Many kpop fans find Lee Hi to be overrated and are bitter about YG pushing her ahead of 2NE1 and disbanding SuPearls in favor of Lee Hi. It’s not surprising, then, that they would be annoyed that this is the second time you have chosen to favor Lee Hi over the artist in the number 1 spot. Taking into consideration the kpop fandoms’ feelings toward a certain artist is also doable for you when making your final decision. I’m not saying you shouldn’t have selected Lee Hi, but I would think you guys could certainly mentally prepare if you pick someone who is so polarizing. (Hyuna and T-ara being other examples that readily come to mind.) You would know, then, the minute you selected an artist like that over whoever was in the number 1 spot, you were making a decision to face your fans’ dissatisfaction.

          I might feel differently if you had a history of fully expressing your true opinion every single time, and didn’t care if you annoyed/upset your fans — as I can certainly think of other YouTubers I follow who have this attitude, and I don’t find it bothersome that they do what they do, fan opinion be damned, because they have a history of taking that approach. But you guys don’t. You’ve said in the past that you often do not fully express what you think, and it’s apparent in your videos that you hold back a lot in favor of always finding something positive to say. When you’ve made it apparent you take fan opinion into consideration and are affected by fans’ opinions, and that you certainly influence fan opinion in return, it’s hard to say that your fans acted inappropriately by then sharing their opinions.

        • Can you change, perhaps “your fans” with “SOME of your fans”? The people who expressed their dissatisfaction are not the majority, but for some reason some people are trumpeting this week’s dissatisfaction as the voice of the people. It’s just SOME people that are dominating the comment section for that moment.

        • I feel bad that you guys feel down so I want to redress the balance a bit and I don’t mind sharing. In the last few months my Dad very nearly died and was seriously ill in hospital for several months (he’s on the mend now but it was pretty close), my husband got made redundant and then I got a ton of really nasty abuse from one family member because she couldn’t understand why I said I didn’t feel ready to meet her Grandchild and she thought I was being a selfish b*tch despite me being nothing but really lovely to her in the past, me being very respectful when I explained why I wasn’t ready to meet the baby and having the knowledge that I recently lost my own baby quite late on in the pregnancy. Spudgy dressed up in his rose head dress singing is the first thing that has made me really laugh in ages. I understand why some people were disappointed when they worked really hard to get and keep their video at the top and I do feel for them because they are only disappointed because they really wanted to see what you were going to say about that video because they love what you do. The sad comments are only there because people appreciate you if that makes sense? So, even though I understand and feel for all the people that wanted their video I’m still going to appreciate the fact you chose the video you did because, frankly, I really needed the giggle so thank you!!

      • Hi Martina and Simon! I completely get and can totally sympathise with your frustration. Perhaps I am wrong, but it seemed to me that a lot of people who expressed their disappointment did so for a number of reasons: (1) they were
        confused about the automated voting system (2) felt that you had deviated from the reasons you gave for why you changed to the system of choosing from the top three and; (3) expressed disappointment only after Heo Young Saeng had been in the top 3 for an extended period of time (ie. 18 or so days).

        In relation to the automated system, a lot of those who expressed their disappointment believed that HYS’s song was in the number one place when voting closed (I have no idea whether it was or not). In addition, I think their disappointment came from the fact that when you announced in February that you were changing the way you chose the review for Kpop Monday – you said one of the benefits would be to allow you to balance out the reviews, allowing more female performers and groups/singers who don’t normally get reviewed a chance to get reviewed. Thus, I think, people were surprised that you didn’t review HYS who you haven’t reviewed at all before as far as I am aware but you chose instead to review Lee Hi although you have reviewed all of her songs so far (don’t get me wrong, I adore Lee Hi and love “Rose” and I really liked your review of it as well).

        Also I think it should be recognised that the mass outpouring of disappointment only came after HYS’s song was not chosen two weeks in a row and after it had been in the top 3 for 18 days, while Lee Hi was chosen for review straight away and you had already reviewed her two or three weeks before.

        Of course you cannot please everyone all the time and no-one should expect you to do so. But there is a difference
        between getting a few disappointed comments and a massive overflow such as last week. When there is so many, then perhaps from the perspective of those who posted comments there was a genuine reason to be disappointed and they weren’t simply just being whiny whingers/sore losers because you didn’t pick their “oppa”. Instead, their disappointment might actually be related to the reasons you gave for the change in the system – ie. to allow more diversity and reviews of lesser reviewed acts.

        As I said before, I really love your videos and site and look forward to all the videos you make, including kpop Monday, even when the songs you review may not be my personal preference or the ones I voted for. My reason for commenting on this subject is not because I am upset you didn’t choose HYS to review but because I can also understand why others may have felt they had a genuine reason to expressed their disappointment and that this was not simply because they were being whiny crybabies.

        • Inspirit13elieve

          OMFG
          MARRY ME
          THIS
          IS
          EXACTLY
          WHAT I THOUGHT
          Seriously. You stated EVERY reason I had put on a thread I made on the allkpop forums. Thanks for representing people who wanted this so badly! I’m an inspirit and I wanted HYS song to be reviewed even more! It was the first song I had heard from him and I fell in love with the whole album, it really is an amazing album.
          Plus I feel like they did essentially give in by reviewing for inspirits. I guess a bigger fandom is probably scarier. There were many who were really mean and breathing down their necks to review Infinite’s songs.

      • I just want you to know, myself and a plethora of other Nasties really appreciate your hard work and how much you do for us. As a blogger, I know how hard you work and how much time and effort you sacrifice on our behalf. I’d like to say that I’m hardworking, but you guys really take the cake. You not only put out 6-7 videos out a week, sometimes more, but you still have to conduct business, interviews, and fit in room for your personal lives. I really commend you for that. Don’t take to heart what a few trolls say. The real Nasties love you guys! Hwaiting! Now, go take a nap.

        • I am going to have to mention here that it isn’t fair to say that anyone who disagrees with Simon and Martina are trolls. Many of the people who posted comments were not trolls but have been pretty active Nasties on this site for a long time and have contributed previously to the fundraiser. Also I am uncomfortable with the idea that the only people who are ‘Real Nasties’ are people who only agree with what Simon and Martina say. They often ask people for differing opinions.

          I see plenty of trolls since I have to moderate the comments on the charts. Not everyone is a troll. The suggestion s&m made about having a different place to put those sorts of comments rather than having them take over a kmm video page may be a good one. As they said, comments about stuff like that can be helpful but they do sort of create an uncomfortable atmosphere on a page which is supposed to be discussing a particular video.

          Just putting that out there.

        • Cyber_3

          I agree with you Natz. However, I think that making a place to put “those types of comments”, only leads to more of “those types of comments”. I suggested in another post that maybe a thumbs up/down for the actual video might give a more balanced view of the appreciation vs. the comments. It could be the first post in the thread.

          Maybe the most important part of the KMM video to people was what it wasn’t, rather than what it was. Partially because Lee Hi’s song/video kind of lacked that umph! to begin with and people weren’t that interested in it. The KMM’s entertainment value totally outweighed Lee Hi’s actual M/V, therefore, that’s what people found more important to talk about (with no other place to post). It’s also impossible to read S&M’s mind as to what they like/don’t like, want to do a KMM on, or not, because these things are not mutually exclusive and I guess that voters want to believe that their influence will trump bias since S&M ALWAYS say how important subscribers are. If S&M consistently pick M/Vs that people aren’t interested in, less people will watch. They can care about that or not, but I think that complaining that some people shouldn’t be disappointed when they thought they had influence is not nice either. You’re an artist, you work hard, but not everyone is going to appreciate your work. C’est la vie. It doesn’t follow that if you work hard, you will be appreciated – no matter your level of success, that is never true. It’s a bit of a trap that they have made for themselves that they work so hard – don’t blame others for your choices – they should create a schedule from scratch now that they’ve thanked the Nasties for the studio and make more free time for themselves.

          They may not like it, but if S&M want to control the comments to the point that no one can voice even disappointment, they are also going to lose subscribers. Maybe they should learn from the comments, rather than be bitter at people for having opinions. I don’t think that it was only a handful of people either, a couple of hundred people agreeing is not nothing. It may not show as much in the KMM thread, but it did in the HYS video thread.

          Cyber_3 – is sorry, that was a little off-topic Natz……..

      • I totally understand your point of view guys.

        For me, I do not watch KMM because of the groups which are featured in it, but because it will never fail to make me smile and brighten my day.

        Keep up the good work guys and keep on chosing who you want to review, and I know a lot of people will enjoy your hard work (I know I will).
        Love from captain cheesy lines^^

      • This may just be me, but I think that if a video was voted first and you decided to pick another video, you should at least spend a minute on talking about the video that was number one. That way the people that voted a lot will still get their review, just a much smaller compacted version. And it also allows you to talk about the one that you wanted to. It even gives you a chance to explain why you preferred one video over another–whether it was because you haven’t done a Kpop Monday on a certain group, they’re your bias, or just because you didn’t like the top-voted group as much as the one you chose.

        I think it would be a little more fair. Though I, personally, just like listening to your own opinions about different things, and it has showed me new groups that I don’t usually listen to.

      • A battle royale of opposing artists voters…with a simon and martina voiceover….

      • We didn’t express disappointment in what you didn’t do we expressed disappointment that your choice was inconsistent with some of the statements you’ve made in the past on how you will chose from the Top 3 video’s. We just were trying to get a clearer picture on how you will be making your choices. I think now I understand in the end you will chose the artist you like the best

      • Sorry to tell you guise but I think the problem is with you. People DID express disappointment in what you did, you picked Lee Hi over the other two. People are dissapointed in your new voting system. It strikes me as a little strange that you don’t get how to improve things, especially when taking the comments regarding lasts weeks KPMM into consideration.

      • If you think about we did express ideas on how to improve things by reviewing artists that have not ever had the chance to be reviewed before is away of improving things.

      • *gives Simon and Martina a hug*

        Looking forward to your future videos, thanks for all the effort you always put in your content! Your videos brighten up my days each week (even now as I am more aware of the 2.5k words assignment due tomorrow (oh god) and the 1k assignment due on Wednesday (*sigh*… better start working)). Please don’t get too upset by comments that sound disappointed, most people who voice their opinions are still your major fans who love your work and want the best for you/the EYK community.

        Can’t wait for the K Will interview~

        (unrelated:)
        I was first introduced to K Will in year 11 (ah the good old times of high school) when I was involved in the Shakespeare Festival. (How does that link? HAHA) My group was gonna do a Romeo-and-Juliet-in-7-minutes thing, and we added in musical elements. Yes. Breaking out into song. (Y) The balcony scene was pretty much K Will’s “A Girl Meets Love” but with our English lyrics…

        ah… memories 8)

        • (It’s almost 2am and I’m still not done with my assignment.
          *watches EYK videos as stress relief*
          I talk about you guys in the assignment, hope it’s alright~
          *sigh*
          I’m so sleepy, I don’t know how you guys do it on a daily basis… props to you for all your effort!)

    • the number of tumbs up from your comment is proof that most people take things for granted………………………..

  58. thisisjustforfunval

    Does this mean L is really Kira? Come on he kills K.Will and loves sweets. Huh, huh. XD

  59. Yay for me commenting a thousand times, but I had another thought:
    Simon and Martina… perhaps you should include something about what you’d like to see in the comments section in the next video. Not as many people watch the updates as KMM, so it might be a good way to make sure people know. Maybe it would be a good time to remind people that the EYK awards last year gave Infinite their review, so even if their favorite MV isn’t reviewed this week, nothing is impossible!

  60. I didn’t really like GI’s song.. except maybe in this one part where one of the girl raps, but I DID LIKE very much their dancing! ^_^ I kinda hope it gets reviewed to hear Martina & Simon’s thoughts! XD But I like K.Will’s song too! Excited to see which one it will be! Either way I still always enjoy Music Mondays no matter what video it ends up being…

    I feel bad that you guys KEEP getting angry comments even AFTER I’ve heard on your videos/read on your blogs about how you guys have a fair system going on for choosing groups for Kpop Monday! Sheesh from now on just ignore those people man… (^_^)/

  61. pretty sure the korean phrase for “I’m Sorry I
    Couldn’t Save You” is 지못미 which stands for 지켜지 못해 미안해 if i’m not mistaken? anyways, i’d be happy if you review K.Will but anyone will do ^^

  62. I think it will be awesome if u guys give us a site or something were we can talk and put our opinions and so not just the MV u review
    Anyway well since now i know heo young saeng has no chance i guess i will go with K.Will

    • Yeah, I’m thinking we should make a short blog post for it, and open up the comment section there :D

      • Not to hijack the comment thread or anything like that, but I think it’s maybe a good time to start looking at an official dedicated EYK forums where we can more openly discuss videos that were not mentioned or not reviewed, but also have a more dedicated where fans can hang out, talk and hold more conversations. It’s not that I don’t have a problem with the Disqus system, but once it gets to a certain number of comments (usually 100+) it will start bugging out to where it starts hiding past comments.

        • I totally agree and have been hoping to see some kind of EYK forums for a while now. It seems like the Disqus system just isn’t quite robust enough to handle such an awesome community as this one.

        • Yes I’m also a pretty opinionated person so I like to express myself and sometimes I know it doesn’t stay on topic. And there is noting that upsets me more then seeing not just my comments deleted but others as well.

        • an EYK forum! That’s a good idea…

  63. thisisjustforfunval

    I’ll love what ever you review. I have my choice biases, I won’t say which ones. However one is on this list and is my future husband. XD

  64. My poor EvoL girls…one day your music will be payed attention to…one day…

  65. K.Will’s music video is just so KMM-worthy. And also, check out Sunny Hill and Daybreak’s collaboration “Love Actually.” It’s a very very funny music video. :))) Here’s a screen shot from that music video.

    • YES! This video is just as hilarious as “Love Blossom” :D That traumatizing heart-shaped chest hair! And as someone else noticed, it even contains a guy losing his pants in slow motion. No matter what the chances for this MV being reviewed are, this is a must-see.

    • Cyber_3

      That is sooooooooo hilarious! It’s also nice to see that Korean _women_ are allowed to have fantasies too ;)

  66. EvoL bought U-KISS’s chess piece when the boys had to sell it since they became homeless again. kekeke

    • thisisjustforfunval

      I thought the same thing. It all starts with selling your prized possessions. Kevin loved that chess piece so much, he must have cried on Soohyun’s shoulder for days after letting it go. XD

  67. K.Will’s mv will be the best choice. How can you not love this mv seriously. And if you guys choose it, please add the Death Note reference too in the middle of so much things to say about the mv XD (not blaming the gun though haha)

  68. K.will’s MV literally makes me laugh out loud every time >_< I love it! ^_^

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