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KpopCharts Update: Shinhwa, CNBlue, BtoB

March 31, 2012

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1) Shinhwa “Venus”Vote for them here!

I’m kinda worried about what we said here for Shinhwa. See, back when we started Kpop Music Mondays, we talked about a lot of bands that we weren’t really familiar with. As time passed we got to know them more, understand them better, and kind of get to appreciate the inside culture of their fandoms. We’re more comfortable now with our Music Mondays than we were back when we started. Talking about Shinhwa today kinda brings us back to those first few reviews, when we still felt new. Shinhwa doesn’t really mean anything to us. We know they’re legendary, and that they mean a lot to other people, but they are before our time, and so they don’t really resonate with us. Sure, they resonate with lots of other people, but they don’t really seem to resonate with our KpopCharts audience, either. No servers are crashing for them. No votes are getting flooded. And so, they’re not having as big an impact as we thought they might, but we’re not surprised.

Long story short, we can only talk about Shinhwa based on the song we heard today…which is alright. Nothing really that takes us by storm. And the video is of confident men rather than of growing boys…so…yeah. Decent song, we guess!

2) CNBlue “Hey You”Vote for them here!

Last week we talked about CNBlue and couldn’t really say much about their video, which was cool for being artistically shot, but not something to really talk about. This video is much more up our alley! So many white people! Wow! Seriously: how did they get on set for that? What company do they work for? I’m hoping that one of you reads our blog and can answer this question for us. Come on! Don’t be shy! And – you potential trolls – don’t use this as an opportunity to pretend you were there just to lead us on. PICS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!

3) BtoB “Insane”Vote for them here!

BATOOBA

BATOOBA

BAOOTBA

BATOOBA

Kpop: stop making ridiculous names. Seriously. This is such a bizarre WTF name that I can’t even concentrate on anything else apart from my sheer confusion for stupid names. It’s like you eat alphabet soup and poop out band names. Stop it already.

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  1. *Three Shinhwa members speak English. Are you forgetting our Hyesungie? >.> And Junjin’s, Dongwan’s and Minwoo’s English is great too so it doesn’t sound like P-Nus at all. :D

    4 years ago
  2. BTOB is not a stupid naaaammmmeeeee!!!!!! its cool cause it stands for “born to beat”!!!!!! have your own thoughts Simon but I think its awesome!!!!1

    5 years ago
  3. Whoa, whoa. What’s with all the mean comments, all of a sudden? Like, the first ten are (respectfully and not) telling M&S that they don’t know what they’re talking about. Shinhwa are awesome and talented, yes. But they’re right. They’re older. It makes sense for them to have an older fanbase. That doesn’t mean you can’t like them as a younger viewer. Hell, look at Bi/Rain and Leeteuk. They’re both ten years older than I am, but I’d come running in a heartbeat. They’re also promoted more overseas (my country), and more currently.

    Today’s popular image is that of the Flower Boy. SHINee and SuJu both have that image and they are the more currently popular. I’m not saying Shinhwa doesn’t have a large fanbase, but here’s the three types of people I run into most who like them:

    Old fans, who were fans back when they were mid-career.

    K-Pop obsessives, who know most bands since 1980.

    K-Pop hipsters. “Oh, you listen to SHINee? They’re cool, I guess. My favorite’s Shinhwa. They’re kind of the original, you know? But, I mean, SHINee’s ok too.”

    It’s like the Rolling Stones. Sure, they have younger fans. But the majority (not whole of, but majority) of people at all their comeback concerts will be the three groups I stated above.

    TL; DR –  In a foreign audience, what’s current is what’s most  popular. Current is not Shinhwa, even though they have talent.

    5 years ago
  4. cnblue is the best kpop band
    without the dancing routines and robotic moves
    they are the freestyle of what kpop would be if it decided to freestyle! lol
    cnblue so cool so charming
    should listen to in my head solely composed by yonghwa and the japanese single where you are also composed by yonghwa
    that is the true sound of cnblue and the future sound hopefully

    5 years ago
  5. I once read somewhere that you should never read the “comments” section of the media you watch on internet because that is where people go to forget their manners and just say whatever they want, unfiltered.

    I made the grave mistake of looking through the comment section on this post. Oh my! Who knew people get so worked up over a difference of opinion on MUSIC? Seriously.. it’s a band, people, not reproductive rights.

    Simon and Martina, you guys still rock. Haters gonna hate. Your true fans love you – and respect your opinions even if they are different from our own.

    5 years ago
  6. I just don’t understand… many of you Changjos are claiming, “Oh, our fanbase as a whole is older and more mature, we don’t have time to do all the ridiculous things fans of younger groups do”… but how mature is it exactly to pounce on  and rant away to people for sharing their opinions and liking different music than you and not knowing your fanclub name and …God forbid, making a penis joke?! I don’t know about the rest of you, but those who aren’t amused by a well-placed penis joke are just a bit too srs business (I’m so serious, yeah!) for me.

    5 years ago
  7. Just to add my two cents ^^:

    I was also disappointed with the opinion of Simon and Martina, I hoped they’d as excited as I was for this return but no…. and it’s alright ! You guys have your own opinion (I almost always agree with you^^) so I wasn’t offended or anything.

    The first time I heard Venus I was a bit surprised, the chorus I thought was a little weird (my loooooove ….Venus), that the Venus bit was a bit off but it grew on me and I can’t stop listening to it and mimicking (or trying to) the choregraphy (and looking ridiculous while doing it).

    I do believe that Shinhwa is more than just music. While I do love their music, I discovered the boys with Xman and their amazing personalities. They are incredibly funny. I suggest you watch Win Win with Shinhwa or the Shinhwa Broadcast, it may help understand a bit the history of Shinhwa (debut, success, though times…). 

    While Shinhwa was popular (and still is), it was honestly never as big as g.o.d or h.o.t (they debuted before and were a revolution for SK) but unlike all the other groups, Shinhwa stuck together even after they “separated” with the army or solo activities, they always promised they would come back as a group. And after 14 years, they are still together. 

    They are all signed under different companies (some even have their own!) so in order to do their group activities, they created a company (Shinhwa Company) and each brought in an equal amount of money, all that just to keep their promise to their fans and come back as a group. They are not nearly as young as the new groups out there, they don’t have the same stamina (Hyesung and Andy got injured during this come-back) and their dance can’t be as impressive as it used to be but it’s still awesome. 

    Instead of fighting with them over something so trivial (they weren’t even that harsh!), let’s vote for Shinhwa and try to make them win the kpop charts :)

    —–

    If you don’t want to read all of this, a little recap: song is great, the guys are awesome and Simon and Martina are entitled to their own opinions. Let’s vote for Shinhwa – Venus !

    5 years ago
  8. I actually like this piece.  SHINWA may be a legend but for those of us new to KPOP, we can only base our opinion of SHINWA on what they have shown us recently.  As for myself, since there have been news that the legend SHINWA was making a comeback, I was quite open to see what they have in store.  I was also not pleased because the material is pretty much what I see everyday in the kpop sphere.  Not to say it’s bad.  It’s just that it did not stand out (not with me and not with the general present-day kpop community) which explains why it did not create a buzz the way SHINEE and EXO are getting. I think that is the same opinion held by Simon and Martina so why should it be wrong and all of you who have known SHINWA forever be right? 

    If you think differently, speak out but don’t be disrespectful… and don’t attack the people who gave opinions.  Not everyone thinks the same.

    5 years ago
  9. Yes ZackEager is young.  He’s an opinionated little fuck and so am I.  We agree to disagree.  Every band listed in this argument, I am probably old enough to be everyone’s mom.  But I digress,  I love Kpop and I love to perv on Kpop,  Jailbait, 20’s, 30’s.. it’s all good.   Never heard Shinhwa sing til this video and yes I did like it.  Then again, Ren from NU’EST gets my motor running too…. :P
    BTW, I am 47  Old enough to know better and old enough not to give a shit….
    /keeponperving

    5 years ago
  10. Child, please.  You demand an apology video because you don’t agree with their opinion and you’re offended? What about what Simon said was rude?  He was very polite when he was talking about Shinhwa.  It doesn’t matter if you agree with it or not they did/said nothing that requires an apology. 

    People need to know the difference between stating an opinion and being rude.  They’re only responsible for what they say and how they say it.  The rest is up to the viewers to be mature and understand that they’re simply stating what they think – which is why people watch their videos anyway.

    5 years ago
  11. Some people really need to grow up. What the hell is with all this bashing and bad comments? It’s just a video about THEIR opinion on this song. If you disagree with them, this is it. Everyone has different opinions, you can’t kill people for what they think. From what I see they didn’t bash Shinhwa, neither did they say harmful things about them…They just said what they thought while being funny as always. This is why I think they are awesome, because they say what they think about songs and stuff even  if it’s a positive or negative thing. They are honest and this is the most important thing. 
    If you think their opinion is wrong, if you hate them or whatever why do you even spend your time commenting? This doesn’t make sense.Oh and I almost forgot, they made fun of Big Bang, they made fun of Shinee, SJ (And by the way I’m an ELF and I won’t get angry if they said sth. negative about them because, as I said it’s just their opinion and it won’t change my love for the group)  and so many other groups so your comment is invalid :P Simon, Martina, Spudgy, thanks for making awesome videos all the time. I respect you and I love your videos! You always make me laugh even if I’m not in a good mood. Don’t let these comments affect you and your work, because some people are just stupid. Go on and make honest videos like this! Love you, guys!

    5 years ago
  12. First off: I wouldn’t care if anyone bashed any band I like. Why? Because it’s just their opinion! It doesn’t effect ANYTHING! I still like the band! The band is still successful! Yay all around!

    Second: Shinhwa will always will be a legend to those people that know Shinhwa, but that will NEVER change the fact that we just personally don’t know them! It’s not an insult, it’s just a plain old fact. 

    Third: We make fun of TONS of fan club names and the names of actual kpop bands! It’s just for fun.

    5 years ago
  13. Even I do not agree with some words spoken by Simon and Martina, I still respect their opinion. We all have different point of view and the diversity makes life become more interesting. I do not expect everybody has the same feeling as me, for what I feel when Shinhwa makes their comeback. They are coming back, for me, it made my day. So we should put all the drama aside and just enjoy their music, don’t take everything to heart.

    I think all the 6 members of Shinhwa are aware of how their fans are feeling, because before they went in hiatus in 2008 due to military service, they gave their fan a goodbye concert, and the CF of their concert reflected their thoughts. You can check out the CF here. Personally, I love that CF, it showed even if their fans grew older, have other interest, Shinhwa was, be, and will take  a special place in their heart. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qasA7yByU4A). The background music for the CF is “Throw my fist”, one of their hits. 

    Instead of blaming Simon and Martina, I think it will be better if we can show this wonderful couple about Shinhwa rather than just throw words to fly all over the place. Dear Simon and Martina, if you are new with Shinhwa, one of the song I can recommend to listen to is “Once in a lifetime” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-OhegVtbaQ). If you see the MV, you can actually spot UEE of After School before her debut ^____^~. Or, you can check out “Brand new”, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR46mwxCanY), another hit of them, which the MV and the dance has some similarity to their new song “Venus”.

    I wish both of you all the best. Love

    5 years ago
  14. All they said was they didn’t know if Shinhwa was still popular enough to comeback, and they even admitted they might be wrong.

    It’s like Madonna, a legend in her own time, but her new album flopped because she is not that popular with the younger generation. Simon and Martina just said that the same thing MIGHT happen to Shinhwa.

    Anyway, about the Cn Blue thing, I think it is possible that they filmed it in L.A. while they were there for their concert.

    5 years ago
  15. I’m not sure what to say but… I love you Guise. I wait for Tuesday every week to see you k-pop music Monday. (and WANKing, of course) and I’m feel awful to see many discourage comments about this week video. But I gotta say We all can make mistake. You done yourselves this time. I agree with some comment below such as you video is not fun as it used to be. (which i ask myself why too. In some older video, I laughed my side-sore) and Please do some research next time (which i know you do and just tried to be funny). For the sexual related jokes, I don’t know since i’m Asian and not Korean. Sometime is funny and sometime is just plain dead. Maybe reconsider your script more.

    The reason I started to follow your blog is you dare to make fun of K-pop Band. That’s right. In my country, we love K-pop in younger generation. it expand their fan base more and more, which I find disturbing at that time I just new to K-pop and saw many Thai artist follow K-pop footstep. Enough story about me. One day I tried to find some M/V to watch and I found you Guise. and Boy, I love it ! How you make fun of K-pop M/V that is what I’m looking for to see other side of it that fan girl won’t approve. (So keep making fun of them even it have to be BigBang or VIP)

    Thanks for being part of my life that introduce me to Korean culture, music and many more. 
     
    Please Don’t feel bad about other comment so much, refresh yourselves and  keep on making good quality video. ^U^

    P.S. Sorry for my Simon-Won’t-Approve English. I haven’t use it properly for long time….  

    5 years ago
  16. Hi Simon & Martina,
    yeah, i don’t know anything about Shinhwa either, other than that they sounded very familiar and were suppose to be a very big group when I was younger. And yeah, i agree, they are really the “man-band” now, compared to the innumerous boybands that sprouting up like crazy with their flower boys (and wedding bouquet what nots!). But that generation gap aside, i must say their comeback with Venus is still cool. Given that they have been away (for more than a couple of years?), I really dun expect them to return crashing servers like before. But their performance of Venus is still unmistakably that of the pros on stage to me. Welcome back, Shinhwa! Storm up Kpop again!

    5 years ago
  17. Firstly, you guys are the fans and this is Simon and Martina’s blog. You don’t have the right to say anything about their opinion, you can only disagree. They were totally respectful while giving their opinion. And really, their opinion wasn’t even harsh. They said they don’t know them so they are just like any other band to them. Since they don’t know them, they have to judge them based on their talent and not their legendary status. Venus didn’t leave an impression on them which is fine. I like Venus a lot personally, regardless of the fact that the group is a legend or not. This is how you should judge a song/video.You need to put aside fandoms and judge songs and videos objectively. Simon and Martina are very good about putting aside the fandoms and being object, judging songs/videos by how good they are rather then how popular groups are even when it comes to bands they love. And honestly that’s what you all should do. I frowned a little when Simon and Martina called them old, but it’s all in good fun it’s not like they were being malicious and saying “your too old, go away”. It’s a fact that they are older compared to other boy bands but I like this about them. If you don’t like what they have to say, just leave.

    Secondly, I’m 20. I’m young. I think it’s a fact that us EYKs are of the younger generation and therefore we don’t know much about Shinhwa. They didn’t crash the site, but they did make it to the number 3 spot even when their not well known to some of us, so I think that shows talent. (Which Simon and Martina NEVER implied that they don’t have talent.)

    And to all of you telling Simon and Martina they’re harsh in their video, it’s called humor. You have to find things to make fun of and it’s all in good fun. Simon and Martina are not malicious people, unlike some of you guys trying to make them feel shitty over nothing. I thought the “Venus” “penis” thing was hilarious and if you didn’t find it funny that’s fine, but if your gonna be malicious no one ever said you had to watch these videos. We don’t want you here.

    Simon and Martina, you guys are great. I think what you do is awesome. It’s thanks to you guys that I discovered my love for k-pop. You guys have introduced me to so much awesome music, you keep me updated, make me laugh hysterically, and give me an outlet for k-pop loving all the way here in America where I have basically no k-pop loving friends. Being famous has it’s up and downs but don’t ever let it get you too down, because you’ll always have people who support you not matter what. Stay strong <3 hwaiting! Your my luv uh! uh! uh! uh! uh! uh! Venus (or penis, you're preference)

    Ps. I totally want to see this video get reviewed after all this drama.

    5 years ago
    • I agree!

      And, thank you for explaining Bilasa in another post.  I’m a new person for knowing now. LOL.

      5 years ago
    • Just…just come here…come on. GROUP HUG!!!! Get in here Spudgy… *SQUISH*

      5 years ago
      • Group hug! =D

        The awesomeness of getting a reply from you guys overwhelmed me. Virtual group hug… I would die from awesome overload, but then I’d miss K-Pop Music Mondays tomorrow and that just will not do.

        5 years ago
  18. ROFL BATOOBA XDDD

    5 years ago
  19. You guise know when watching a simonandmartina video you will hear their opinion on a subject! Their own personal opinion if you don’t like to hear and respect their opinions then don’t watch ^-^ I wuv you Spudgy , Martina and Simon <3

    5 years ago
    • I’m tired of this “don’t like don’t watch” attitude …. Simon and Martina express their opinions, post videos for people to see. Viewers are as much entitled to their opinion as Simon and Martina, and their way of expressing themselves is through comments and like or dislike button. Blogs are made for exchange of opinions.
      I find most of the responses here and on YT respectful and articulated in their thoughts. Simon asked for viewers opinions in the video as well.
      I watch and appreciate S&M for a long time now, and it is because I care about them that I bother to post my thoughts. Otherwise I would not waste time typing and thinking.
      On this particular video I disagree with them, but that doesn’t meen I don’t respect their opinions. Exchange of opinions makes people grow.

      5 years ago
      • Okay ^-^ hehe I agree with your point, but I think some people went to extreme with their opinions …..it just made me sad that they were attacking S&M TT A TT

        5 years ago
  20. This is the first Shinhwa’s song i’ve ever heard, not expecting anything at first. But then, i love it so much! It grews on me surprisingly quick. After watching the video (like,.. ten times :p), i just dive in to their past and current variety shows. They are funny as hell!! I guess they are born to be entertainers and that doesn’t age. Comparing them to NKOTB is kinda unfair, bcs when NKOTB occured their comeback single “Summertime”, they are too old for that single. It doesn’t really fit their age and leave the pedobear impression to me. kkkk sorry, just my opinion. But Shinhwa members are still on their early 30s, so if you compare them to BSB or NSYNC or Westlife, that is fair. Bcs i consider Mark from Westlife is still hot (though his gay, but its ok :’) ). IMO, Venus fits the man-band concept and Shinhwa still manage to have their charisma among kpop fans, not only fan in their time. And, i guess Venus is climbing up to number 3 on your chart, right? :))

    5 years ago
  21. yes, the playlist mode is broken.
    the latest Kcrunch coctail also was like this…

    talking about SHINHWA once again. I do not think that Simon and Martina were mean because they said about Shinhwa’s impact on nowadays kpop charts as irrelevant. I think they were a bit mean because they seemed to talk too ironicly –> it looked like they were forced to say something nice but they didn’t want to.
    I love sarcasm but it is passive aggressive behaviour. and people who are Shinhwa’s Changjo took it into themselves.

    on the other hand, I do not think that flame-war here would help. stop fighting with mean words. it is for nothing and only show your frustration. it won’t help – but instead will show you as immature people.

    btw, I also do not understand BILASA :(
    :D

    5 years ago
  22. I dun know why i felt ‘offended’ by S&M views on SHINHWA. I personally barely knew them. I just knew eric becoz he is an actor for Que sera sera and Muyng Wol the Spy and Andy for the Season 1 We Got Married… I never knew their past song and what I feel when reading on ur post is like u guys just dont give any space for them… U guys also barely knew them but SERIOUSLY guys i hope U guys can be more open minded… TQ… I love VENUS aka PENIS…. hahaha

    5 years ago
  23. JP

    hmmm the playlist doesn’t work too great this time. It plays your videos in playlist mode, but omitts the musicvideos.

    5 years ago
  24. JC

    wow, you just dissed Shinhwa.  If this words gets out you’ll never get another interview with KPOP anything in the future.  You guys are really, really clueless about the almost mythical status of Shinhwa has not just with all current KPOP idols but the entire nation of Korea.  You best hope this video doesn’t get viewed by a real Korean in the industry.   You’ll be shunned everywhere… hope you can keep this going w/o actually going anywhere close to actual KPOP stars or insiders. Let’s see if the U-Kiss boys will even look at you after seeing this travesty.

    5 years ago
  25. I understand Batooba and Batoost… but I don’t get Bilasa.  I feel like I’m so slow on picking up the joke.  I hope someone explains. Thanks. :D

    5 years ago
    •  B1A4 – There are two difference number systems in Korean and in one of them, 1 is il (pronounce eel) and 4 is sa (pronounced sah) hence BILASA!!!

      5 years ago
  26. is no one mentioning SM using the poorly lit room for shinwha and that the girl floating at the end was scary..lol.. good song though!

    5 years ago
    • are you serious? Shinhwa left SM a long time ago *headdesk*

      5 years ago
      • im sorry im not knowledgable about SHINHWA.. but they were in SM so they def had some influence on them .. hence the poorly lit room.. hope your head doesnt hurt from the desk.. jeez kids these days..

        5 years ago
  27. fun fact back in the day was a Wednesday!  hahaha just thought id lighten the mood 

    5 years ago
  28. CUBE needs to hire a new stylist… BtoB looks EXACTLY like B2ST

    5 years ago
  29. omg S and M i made a comment how i thought your review of shinee’s vid was more enthusiastic than your big bang.. i was just joking and stuff and people started replying and freaking out that I thought bb was better than shinee. and i was like well i do like BB better but just an opinion. and people kept freaking out so i had to delete the comment. so now I understand what you go through because It was one comment and a couple of replies but these fans are crazy! you cant have your own opinion they stress out major.. I feel bad for you cause a ton of people were commenting about your shinhwa review.. im not knowledgable about them because they werent together when i got into kpop but the song is catchy and they are cute and probably closer to my age than daesung *my husband*, but yea so stay strong and to all the Changjo’s,,, i understand your upset but give them a break. they were just saying…there opinion.. everyone is entitled.. just like i think Daesung should marry me.. you may disagree,,,,lol

    5 years ago
    • Haha sorry to hear about your bad experience! The worst part about this is that we don’t even dislike Shinhwa! We were literally talking about our personal kpop chart ranking and joking about their age! TOTALLY JOKING but now even if we got to know Shinhwa’s music, the crazy fans would be like, “YOU’RE FAKING IT!! AGHHHH!” if we don’t like them, “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW GREAT THEY ARE! ARGGHHHH!!” You really can’t win at this point. This is really the ugly side of kpop fandoms. Next time we meet Daesung, I’ll put in a good word for you! ^^

      5 years ago
  30. dear Simon let me clarify you regarding the names of kpop bands
    they are called backronims (I think it’s spelled like that) check it on wikipedia and there is a hole article there
    and b2st is not read batoost as you say since 2 in Korean is 이 you read it  비르트 (I think that is how you spell it in Korean)
    so… hope this clarifies some misunderstandings :D

    5 years ago
    • no that is not how you spell it in Korean.. and he says Batoost at a joke.. its funny ..we get that its Beast and its not BILASA but they are bloggers they entertain us.. thats why they joke.. and its 비스트

      5 years ago
  31. omg i thought i was the only late 20’s that loved kpop! thank God im not alone!!

    5 years ago
  32. ok even though Shinhwa didnt get a lot of votes and I agree with Simon on his point,,, I actually liked the song a lot! .. i hadnt really listened to kpop when i was younger so i didnt know them too well but in reality they are probably at the age that I should be swooning over since the other band’s members (like shinee or exo) that I love are way to young for me lolol… im a noona ..lol

    5 years ago
  33. 1. Vussy — i died haha 2. S Club 7 Reference… wow i havent heard about them in forever THROW back!  i love it!

    5 years ago
  34. I wonder if you guys will do a TLDR one of these days about fandoms and the comments you guys get.

    5 years ago
    • We’d love to talk about this for a TL;DR.  Boy, do we have a lot to say about it :D

      5 years ago
    • I think they need to be asked the question on the Moderator page before we can vote up…

      5 years ago
      •  I’ve just made asked a question. Don’t think it will be answered soon, but it’s there. ^.^

        5 years ago
  35. yes… we’re called BOICE ^w^….

    5 years ago
  36. The thing about the V is that koreans in general have problems speaking the V and most times comes like a P or B… Trying seeing Infinite’s Nothing’s Over to see what I mean. S&M are not saying that Shinhwa speaks venus wrong, but that many will… it’s the same with the F sound. Ever heard in tv someone calling Fei from Miss A or Tiffany from SNSD? They speak the F like a P…

    5 years ago
    • A good example of this is when Jo Kwon was doing the intro for BoA’s Hurricane Venus song and he pronounced V as P.

      5 years ago
  37. Why are people calling Simon and Martina ignorant? I see their point. Shinhwa’s a well respected band and they even acknowledged that fact. They weren’t being rude or disrespectful but they were trying to be playful. It’s the same attitude they have with all of their other videos. People don’t exactly get butthurt when they make fun of other idol groups, do they?
    In my opinion, Simon does have a point. Although Shinhwa’s INCREDIBLY popular, their fans from several years ago have all grown up. However, I’m not saying that they’ve lost their fan base. The fans that have grown into their late twenties are thirties have MATURED (I need to caps lock for emphasis). They have jobs and families now and less time for stalking their idols, going to concerts, or dedicating shrines towards Shinhwa. People who are obsessed and stalk their idols are typically students who do not have to focus on work and stuff. Adults are generally more busy, I’m assuming? Yes, I agree there are a lot of fans still, but there won’t be a lot of super FANATICS, which is what we see normally from SHINee, Super Junior, 2PM, etc. It’s us fanatics who repeatedly vote for our favourite obsessions that allow them to win, whether it was on eatyourkimchi or any other site. And whether people like it or not, companies and businesses love promoting groups that have more obsessed fans, because that equals more $$$.

    5 years ago
  38. But now you are adding words to my mouth and that’s not fair. I never talked about how popular or legendary Shinhwa is or that the song is AMAZING, so your points are kinda invalid to my comment.

    I have also lived in Korea for over two years and even teach children, and for the record I have never heard my students mistaken the word Venus as Penis before, especially when the word venus exists directly in Korean. Maybe I’m surrounded by students who have good pronunciations, but that has never been the case. 

    but I’m glad that we can at least agree that there is nothing wrong with confident men though.

    5 years ago
    •  i never added any words to your mouth. i said shinhwa is not as popular or legendary as “their fans” (not grace hong) would like everyone else to believe.   perhaps i shouldn’t have used that comment as a reply to your comment but i was just making my point as to why simon and martina may think they are “irrevelant”.  i understand the impact they’ve had on kpop but artistically speaking they don’t much for me.  i admire the loyalty of the shinhwa fans but you shouldn’t expect everyone else to feel the same way – including simon and martina.  it’s great that you had students with excellent english pronounciation skills but if you lived in korea for that long you of all people should know that many koreans do mix up the V sound for a B/P. i’m not sure if you’ll be able to read this person’s note on facebook but read #4 if you can https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=2210324107.  in case you can’t see it, the note is called “top 10 quotes from korean students/teachers and it says “4. “You look like Penis” -Korean kid to my woman co teacher (he meant she looks like Venus)”.  if you’re still not convinced hear infinites “nothing’s over”

      btw, your first paragraph in reply to my comment just proved my point and their point. 

      5 years ago
      • I see how you can say that, but you read my comment wrong. When I emphasized AMAZING, i wasn’t STATING that it was amazing and that EVERYONE should think it was amazing.  you just kind of inferred that and maybe it was my mistake for writing it in that way. I was trying to sarcastic and be an enthusiastic fan girl, but that didn’t carry out very well. oh the world of the interwebs. 

        anyways, 
        I honestly don’t want to keep arguing with you because I know that whatever I say is not going to change your mind since you are adamant about S&M being able to state their opinions, and I am completely fine with that. You’re right, this is S&M’s blog and they can say what they want.
         
        i’m not trying to get S&M to change their opinions – I even said that in my original post. I’m not God or a dictator. 
        S&M said they know Shinhwa’s ‘legendary’, but don’t really know why – all I asked for S&M was get to know them, instead of spewing out and implying random things about them to the EYK fanbase. That’s why I want Shinhwa to win for music mondays, so S&M can learn about why Shinhwa is ‘legendary.’

        As for the V/B/P sound, for a Korean, who knows the song’s name is a Venus and is speaking in Korean, they will never pronounce it as penis. 비너스, 피너스 – there is a huge difference. Now maybe if they were in a setting when they had to speak english, it’s might be different, like your example. 
        So maybe I was wrong, but I still stand by my comment about how only immature people would notice venus = penis.

        5 years ago
        • In the old (McCune-Reischauer) Romanization, 비 was Romanized as “pi” because the Korean /b/ sound at the outset of a word is a bit harder than /b/ in English, and so quite close to /p/ in English. This is why the surname 박 is commonly romanized as “Park”. In the old Romanization, 피 — now (officially) Romanized as “pi”, used to be “p’i” or “phi”, showing strong aspiration (notably stronger than in English). Thus, to the untrained English-hearing ear, 비너스 does sound like “penis” (especially since English does not have the unrounded front vowel).

          5 years ago
  39. It really bothers me how you spelt “they’re” wrong. 

    5 years ago
  40. I’m 33 now started listening to Shinhwa when I was 19 and it was one of the first groups that I got into when I first started listening to Kpop.  For the most part I think EYK is gear towards the 30 and below group.  For the group that is around 30 and above, we tend to be lurking in the background and not constantly vote and so it won’t be the best indicators..  The Shinhwa fans have all grown up, have kids, in the workforce now and for the most part been most loyal to this group. I respect your opinion on this but I would have to disagree you will having judge an idol group by how much traffic you get for a particular group and to note who their target audience group Shinhwa is mainly focusing and it’s their loyal fans. But to each to their own opinion. I really do enjoy all your videos Simon and Martina and I really am glad you stick to your guns on your opinions because it is your opinions and that is what makes your site works. All opinions in one way or another going to offend someone. Sigh.

    5 years ago
  41. Grow up.

    5 years ago
  42. I agree.  We’re working on redesigning the site, and just spoke with our developers about different design ideas.  This will definitely be a feature :D

    5 years ago
  43. simon and martina please never stop doing videos with “YOUR” opinion – even if this means making fun of BIGBANG. even if you destroy them to pieces i would much rather hear an honest opinion then some ass kissing.

    5 years ago
    • well, your opinion counts more i guess because people reeeeaaallly respect your opinion.

      5 years ago
  44. simon and martina, please read!!! for you own benefit!! :)

    5 years ago
  45. It is because of groups like Shinhwa that idols such as SHINee and B1A4 exist! If there was no starter generation of idol groups then the flood of idols today would not exist. Shinhwa did more for the music industry than any of these idol groups will do in their lifetime. Just because the site didn’t crash doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be given the same amount of attention as ANY one of these idols today.

    5 years ago
  46. S Club 7?

    5 years ago
  47. Way to get butt hurt really easily people….Simon and Martina are just stating this as a people who got into the Hallyu wave late. It doesn’t mean they disrespect them any less; they just honestly don’t know who Shinhwa is. I didn’t either when this song went up on their chart so I googled them….I love this song, but you are going way too far….who are you to “demand an apology” from them? Honestly you are having a negative effect on new listeners to Shinhwa like me. However, I not gonna be one of those people that because they don’t like the fan base say that they don’t like the group. Simon and Martina do this for fun, I’m pretty sure they don’t do this to purposely bash on k-pop idols, so please be respectful to them and act your age.

    5 years ago
  48. I have to admit that you know more about K-pop than me, but you don’t know sh*t about ShinHwa. Over the past 14 years, they’ve been through a lot together and actually survived sabotage by South Korean powerhouse SM entertainment. They have something special that they can share with their fans and you will never understand. So can you please STFU

    ‘Shinhwa doesn’t really mean anything to us.’ > yeah, you really mean nothing to them, too.

    5 years ago
    • Think about it, you guys are kind of well know and it’s the same thing that happens when someone well know says something that disappoints people or that people disagree with. You guys make fun of groups all the time but this is the first time I’ve seen you guys be so mean even in your replies. I get it’s because of what people are saying but you’ve gotten pretty mean opinions before and you’ve been the better person. You are making it seem as it’s a Shinhwa fanbase only type deal. I remember something like this happening with another of the videos you reviewed [can’t remember who it was, maybe Girls Generations?] where people were going crazy too but you guys weren’t like this. Shinhwa is one of the groups I love [not my favorite but one of] and you have made fun of the other groups I like but this one felt different. I don’t know how else to explain it lol

      5 years ago
      • We’ve been more forceful in our responses to people this time.  Why? Because we always back away.  People rant, people throw darts and hurl insults, and we always just tell ourselves not to worry about it, move on, and we usually just back away.  So now we feel like defending ourselves, and not even by hurling back insults, but by forcefully and thoughtfully stating our opinions.

        No, we didn’t slink away this time, and I don’t think we’ll do so again.

        5 years ago
  49. I’ll be honest, I don’t know much about Shinhwa since I started liking kpop around 2008… but I am in my late twenties and feel less like a pedophile when I watch this group :D They’re really good too… and I really like this song!

    5 years ago
  50. I’ve calmed down from the initial rage, so I’ll try to do
    this civilly. As a Shinhwa ChangJo, I’ll try not to let Shinhwa down by using
    expletives. I don’t hate on the guy, he’s pretty funny (on the second watch, I
    actually giggle at the way he said “manband”), but you guys ask for opinions in
    the comments so here is mine. First, are you guys nitpicking on the “V” and the “P” in Venus as a joke? It must be a joke to nitpick on that for a title song. Then you guys say “Shinhwa
    is only relevant in the past” I can’t agree. Considering the fact they
    are the only Kpop band to last 14 years and make a pretty darn successful
    comeback (maybe not “successful” like “newer” group but that’s a
    given with how kpop is run by teenage angst nowadays) They are paving the way
    for current boy bands and telling them that it IS possible to break the 5 year
    idol curse and, as long as your fans are there, you can continue to stand
    on stage after military. How, then, are they “irrelevant”? Maybe it’s
    my bias coming through, but I think these newer groups are lucky they have a
    role model like Shinhwa, to do all these solo activities and still stay
    together as one group and make good music under the group’s name, perhaps even their
    own company. Of course, unless you guys are speaking in the context of “popularity”
    relevance because that’s what I get a lot from this video – the huge amount of
    emphasis on popularity and age. The implication I get is that “you’re old, you
    don’t matter like the young kids, don’t make music” and that “music is only for the young”. Also your demographic is
    mostly younger teens that have the time to sit at their desk and vote mindlessly
    compared to Shinhwa’s audience who are mostly in the working force. Perhaps if
    you’ve given a review on the substance of the song/album, and don’t like it, I
    probably won’t get so worked up, but as you can see, ever since Shinhwa’s
    announcement of a comeback, we’ve (Shinhwa ChangJo, the “butthurt Shinhwa fans” who have waited 4 years loyally for their return, as you ignorantly refer us to along with
    some other made up fanclub name) had to deal with younger fans talking shit
    about how our oppas are too old they need to get the fuck out of the kpop
    scene, yeah…your video is like adding on to it. It’s sad you guys put an expiration date on your idols/bands/music. Btw, I’m 19 and am a SHCJ, so stop it with the generalization of all SHCJ being mothers with kids and talking as if they’re about to die from being “old”. And you should know (or probably already does) that when it comes to stats on sales and whatnot, there is only so much international fandom can do in comparison to the k-fandom…and these voting things, SHCJ has already come to terms that we won’t be able to beat the fans of younger idol groups, but we still do because we support our oppas. You shouldn’t base what Shinhwa is all about on how your chart rankings is and age as you do in this video. Anyway, it’s my two cents. Hope it’ll help
    you understand some of the butthurt Shinhwa ChangJos’ sentiments and rage. SHCJ is a very peaceful fanbase, but when
    it comes to Shinhwa or SHCJ themselves, SHCJ are fiercely loyal and sometimes aggressive in the way we behave and we’ve been this way for 14
    years and some later than 14 years. So I apologize for whatever threats you’re receiving from other angry SHCJs, and though I respect your opinion, I don’t agree with it.

    5 years ago
  51. so if it means that you are old, than I’m too old XD I’m 25 and I’m thinking the same, they are awesome and sexy and I’m happy that they don’t look like boys, but men. Guess that’s because I’m over 20 and I feel awkward to like my bias in other groups who are just turned legal XD I mean, I can only say to half of Super Junior ‘Oppa’, and I won’t talk about B2ST, U-Kiss or all the others XD (Just thinking about NU’EST, four of them are nine years younger than me.. T__T)

    5 years ago
  52. you have under estimated the power of shinhwa changjo. I found your review on shinhwa disrespectful, distasteful, and just ignorant. 

    5 years ago
    • And I found that many of the Shinhwa changjo are just as “disrespectful, distasteful, and just ignorant”. 

      5 years ago
  53. Actually, I’m one of those who didn’t know much about Shinhwa before this comeback. I wasn’t expecting to go WUAAAH over them, but I did :P they’re so freakin’ awesome!!!

    5 years ago
  54. I actually really like Venus :)

    5 years ago
  55.  ok away from all the drama her ..
    i would like to say that i really love CN blue and yes cn blue music is so ammmm how can i say it cn blueeeyyy ><

    5 years ago
  56. Being 16 and not Korean, I’ve heard of Shinwa but never listened to them.
    BUT VENUS. I LOVE IT.
    ARGHH. I don’t know who to vote for now D:

    5 years ago
  57. I really like Shinhwa’s song, but I don’t think I could ever fangirl over a bunch of 30 year olds. :s But I’m sure these guys were hawt several years ago.

    5 years ago
    • I think Shinhwa is not the “one” for you, but trust me sometimes you fangirl over ppl as old as ur parents…e.g. Cha Seung Won, he’s SO sexy! ;)

      5 years ago
    •  So when your idols grow a little older you will stop being their fan?

      5 years ago
      • No that’s not it. I’ll still like them because when they’re older, I’ll be older as well continuing to like and listen to their music. Like Martina said, older fans of New Kids on the Block get excited over their comeback, so I think it will be the same for me just with BigBang and SHINee. 

        5 years ago
        • And a few years from now when Big Bang turns 30 and a lot of the younger kids running around and saying they should stop making music, what will your reaction be? Will you sit back and watch as people tell your oppas are not fit to make music on the basis of age and not musicality? This is what SHCJ are having to deal with right now.

          5 years ago
        • My reaction would be “I don’t care what these kids say, I’ll always like BigBang.” It’ll really no different that what the Shinhwa fans are saying right now.
          **Note how I never said anything to bash Shinhwa, I actually praised them for this song.

          5 years ago
  58. I like the MAN BAND! :P

    5 years ago
  59. I like Shinhwa alot ..The new CD is great better then the last…I have been listing to Kpop for 7yrs now. They r not one of my OMG groups but I like them just the same. My granddaughter not so much she is 2yrs old and love’s Big Bang. Fantastic Baby she can’t get enough of.

    5 years ago
  60. haha glad i’m not the only person who noticed all the white people. i seriously think that cnblue were the only non white people on that set. that’s pretty much all i could focus on when watching this mv xD

    5 years ago
  61. Let’s not hate on Simon and Martina. If Shinwha is not your bias or you just heard about them, you probably would not be as excited as the noonas or older fans. Shinhwa’s song Venus is catchy and good but their performance was not up to par. However, I appreciate that they still perform and are there for their dedicated fans.

    5 years ago
  62. I’m kind of tired of the ‘perverted’ feeling I have when I see those young little boys acting all sexy, naked.. etc. So when I heard SHINHWA will be back my heart start beating very fast! I don’t know.. maybe 6 years ago I would have screamed of joy and excitement if EXO came out but now… I like more the manly feeling from SHINHWA than from EXO. And I’ve been waiting for their comeback. CNBlue’s song is great as well. I really love the way they’re doing music. But for now my vote goes to SHINHWA – VENUS. 

    5 years ago
    • Yep – I feel the same. I am older than Leeteuk so hot older guys making good music is fantastic. Finally I get to say “oppa”!!

      5 years ago
  63. Shinhwa isn’t well-known outside Korea I think. and your audience consists of foreigners mostly :)
    but you have to watch latest Music Bank on KBS… all those people shouting “Shinhwa” and singing along. I have never seen something like this on Music Mondays, even when TVXQ performed. 
    and, somehow, this is very refreshing that they are my age and still perform as an idol  group. all nowadays idol groups consist of boys and girls nearly a decade younger than me >.<

    5 years ago
  64. I should probably tell you that S Club 7 is getting back together for a summer tour and possibly a new record deal. Come on, you didn’t want to join the ‘S Club Party’?

    As for Shinhwa not applying to a younger demographic, I am 21 years old. I haven’t quite gotten to the age where I think I should be calling myself  a ‘noona’ but if going by your standards, should I be?

    One more thing- the name of Shinhwa’s fan club is ‘Shinhwa Changjo’. I am quite offended as a fan that you take the time to research other aspects of K-Pop whereas a simple google or wikipedia search could have told you the name.

    5 years ago
  65. Batooba give me a very Batoost feel in terms of sound and look. Maybe cause they’re from the same company..but the song’s rather catchy~ XD I like it.

    And I can’t say the same for Shinhwa. It’s great they’re back but somehow I feel like they’re worn out and tired…I don’t know..but that’s what I feel from that MV.

    5 years ago
  66. hahaha S Club 7!!!!!!!! i used to LOVE them so much!!!!!!! (i want Busted back!!) 

    5 years ago
  67. It is strange to see them performing, as they are considered old in the Kpop world, but I’m glad they are back. Its kinda creepy for me to watch SHINee and all the debuting rookies trying to act sexy when they aren’t even 18/19 yet. I feel like a creep since I’m years older than them. 

    5 years ago
    • I was thinking abt suing SM for making me watch child porn, then I remembered Taemin is legal, still…those pics were bad. Im still sad that Beakho from NU’ESt is so young T_T He looks older.

      5 years ago
  68. I ended up listening to S Club 7 because of you ;] 

    5 years ago
  69. sorry but… where is spica? *cries*

    5 years ago
  70. Boy you guys decided to really put your necks on the guillotine XD

    I hadn’t listened to any of their stuff before and mostly knew about them through Eric and also am about 10 years younger than them, but when their album dropped, I was in love. I think the single is amazing, the rest of the album even more so, especially “It Hurts”. I did have some anticipation as the excitement from other fans and especially other idols for their comeback (one of those times when “comeback” actually makes sense) was really infectious, but still wasn’t sure what to expect. But I got quality music, interesting MV, and cool choreography. Also, actual grown men performing is a plus, not a minus (no awkward “oh, he’s hot” “oh…he’s a child” moments here). They have a sexiness and a confidence that only comes with age. One person mentioned they’re a “breath of fresh air”, and that’s exactly what I felt with Shinhwa’s comeback.

    5 years ago
  71. For me, Shinhwa is a breath of fresh air actually. They’re mature, confident, they know what they’re doing, their talent is indisputable, their album is consistent and I can’t imagine their image bouncing from aegyo-balls to manly men from single to single (and there are no awkward moments of under-aged crotches in my face).

    I haven’t listened to Shinhwa before their latest album and they blew me away at first listen which isn’t something I experience often. I’m so glad they’re back even though they’re basically new to me.
    Rookie bands often seem lost and it takes a while for them to find their sound (which is rarely unique) and start looking comfortable in the spot light. Shinhwa’s experience takes away all the baby-illnesses and leaves us with amazing music and fun idols.

    5 years ago
  72. I’m 26, and neither married nor with kids. But I’ve been a fan since 2001 when I was 14, I literally grew up in the fandom, wasting away my highschool years in the SHCJ forums… Shinhwa was the kpop group I taught myself Photoshop for so I can make wallpapers/icons/banners/graphics to show my support…

    I have since gone to college and now a registered nurse. Dont have that luxury of time to sit & keep voting like a crazed young fan anymore, but that doesnt mean my live for my oppas have diminished. Venus is damn catchy and It Hurts is just fuckin amazing —

    I’m so glad that Shinhwa’s doing this comeback for their loyal “orange princesses” Mad respect right there.

    5 years ago
    • yy

       Agreed. I don’t think Youtube counts or stats on this site can be an accurate indicator of Shinhwa’s popularity or the excitement that surrounds their comeback. The demographic of EYK fans is not necessarily reflective of all kpop fans. What about other statistics, like how quickly their comeback concert sold out? I think that definitely reflects how excited people were to see them back.

      5 years ago
  73. Um Hey You was recorded in America, hence the white people.
    Shinhwa fans are Shinhwa Changjo.
    Your playlist mode is also broken. It keeps putting the MVs together and your bits together. If they show the MVs at all.

    5 years ago
  74. And it’s not like some men in their 30s are so concerned about having more teenage girls “in love” with them lol. So, no showing off abs, no lip(..what was that term again?…gosh), and other things. They came back for their devoted fandom, and they have for sure way more Korean fans that any other new group. 

    5 years ago
  75. Nah, no hate from me. I’m not a huge Shinhwa fan but they were the first kpop group that really got me into kpop and I heard of them late, like back in 2006. They’re one of the few groups (along with H.O.T and G.O.D) that I can truly call “oppa”s since I’m in my late 20’s. I was a bit worried about their comeback but I was pleasantly surprised that they didn’t go all out to compete or sound like the many hoobae groups of now. While their sound has a new sound (such as dubstep), it still has a very Shinhwa-esque aura to it. It reminded me of “Brand New” from a few years ago. I still think they’re relevant, a bit nostalgic but a breath of fresh air among all these debuting groups this year. It’s nice to see an old familiar face again. Makes me want to rewatch their old MVs as ridiculous and cringeworthy some were lol But that old kpop really had a distinct sound. 

    5 years ago
  76. BtoB reminds me of the french boyband we had in the 90s called 2be3 (yeah, they were three)(and it was supposed to sound like “to be free”) (and only french people knew them anyway), we could start an awful boyband name contest.

    5 years ago
    • Que de souvenirs avec les 2be3 !
      Tu te souviens de la parodie ? Partir un jour….à Carrefour…sans se retourner…..
      Toute mon enfance^^

      5 years ago
  77. omg canadian listen to s club 7 
    i thought it was just a english thing
    I LOVED THEM
    “dont stop booging to the boogy boogy beat, dont stop booging to the s club beat”

    5 years ago
    • I listened to them too! (and I’m French) We had their TV series too, which was fun. Good old times~

      5 years ago
  78. Lol youtube play list wanted to warn me for the Shinhwa video he just skipped on and went to martina her part :P 

    5 years ago
  79. Shinhwas fanclub name is Shinhwa Changjos :)

    5 years ago
  80. I agreed to Simon that Shinwa comeback is not very healthy for marketing. Personally, I’ve only heard the name ‘Shinwa’ but never actually listened to their song. So there aren’t a lot of the possibility that I will sit in front of the computer for a whole day voting for them.

    However, at the same time, this is an opportunity to introduce this group to younger audiences. Yes, they might not crashed your server, but at least it made some people (like me) aware of them, their ability, and their song.

    So I’m not completely disagree with Simon and Martina, but I’m not agreeing with you all the way either

    And I guess this comes down to the ‘Song’ itself. If the song is good, they got my vote. If not, then too bad….. :)

    5 years ago
  81. Shinhwa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m so glad because of comeback of shinhwa!! I can’t write in english well so I can’t write a lot of words for comeback of shinhwa but I want to recommend two music of shinhwa ‘wild eyes’ and ‘brand new’ to you. They are old but good songs.

    5 years ago
  82. Since my Korean obssesion started with ShinHwa I was so waiting for they’re come back. I was so happy that they returned. I love the song but MV was… a bit.. awekward..? lol, But, personaly for me it was such an event since I knew them before. Their previous work, their X-man shows.. Seeing them again was like goin back in time. You dont have that experiance with them but just think of your very first k-pop band that you loved commin back on stage and thats how it was for many of us to see ShinHwa. (even if i still belive they could do better with the dance choreography, haha). And no matter what Im their fan for life. ^.^v  Oh, and Im 26 so i perfectly go into mid 20s fan range hehe.

    5 years ago
  83. Just think how crazy excited you would be if DB5K got back together and had a comeback, or if SJ or Shinee went off to the army for several years and managed to stay together and come back and this was their comeback song…if you’re fans of them now, think about how happy or excited you would be…that’s my take on Shinhwa

    5 years ago
    • Oh yeah, we get it. I’d be really excited, but I STILL wouldn’t give a crap what other people said or think about DBSK. Other people’s comments or opinions don’t affect my love for a band. :D

      5 years ago
      • Totally kinda cool that you took the time to respond to me :), just really was passing through and dropping my 2-cent thoughts on the whole matter. But I do agree with you and I definitely respect your opinions and videos, too! I also see where the other commentors are coming from although some are um…more passionate about it? 

        Ultimately I’m glad you have this forum where people can have a (generally)good discussion about the trends in kpop. I find this topic especially relevant in the setting of what happens and what will happen to kpop bands when they get older (considering there are so many new bands coming out that I can’t even figure out who is what), and how they can stay relevant to both their hardcore fans and brand themselves to new fans as they come back to a setting that has also moved on. It is especially relevant, I feel, because since miltary enlistment is mandatory, all the kpop boy bands are going to have to face this facinating dilema (if they don’t disband before then >_<).

        Otherwise, since it seems you are reading the comments in this section, just wanted to say hiiii! ^__^'n""""  

        5 years ago
  84. In my opinion, I’m a new kpop fan but I’m obsessed with their new song. I totally agree that they probably shouldn’t have named their song that considering I’m hearing something totally different and wrong. People question why I like Shinhwa though I’m super young [14], but that song is just awesome. I just hope that they’re song will be able to get just as famous as the new debut groups or SHINee. 

    CN Blue’s new song is really catchy but what’s up with the daridoo nonsense that went on in I’m A Loner and Intuition. It has to stop man. But, I still love the song.

    5 years ago
  85. LOL NKOTB did try a comeback a few years ago and then last year I believe went on tour with Backstreet Boys. It was called NKOTBB. Think it only excited their fans from back in the day, didn’t make a huge impression on the music world. (FYI New Kids on the Block was my first concert).

    5 years ago
    •  Their 2009 comeback album “The Block” was #1 on the Billboard Pop Album chart and #2 on the Billboard 200. The 2011 album with BSB made it to #7, and only had two new songs. I was at one of their 2009 concerts and there were more than just fans my age from back in the day. (FYI the first time I saw the New Kids on the Block was 1989.)

      5 years ago
  86. Am I the only person having problems with the playlist? Yesterday and today it either playlists the MV videos or Simon & Martina’s review (in other words skipping the vid inbetwee). I have to open the playlist and go back. Or maybe YouTube has lost its mind…I believe it is the later.

    5 years ago
    • me 2!!!!!!! omg

      5 years ago
    • Yeah, I had that problem yesterday too! What’s up with the every other video crap, youtube. though glad to know it’s not a my computer hates me problem….

      5 years ago
    • It’s only Simon and Martina when you watch the playlist here, and it kept it’s original form on Youtube. And it makes more sense this way, because here you have the MVs on this page anyway. I’m liking the new format, but can see how people will get confused with any little change.

      5 years ago
    • No MVs…Just Simon and Martina reviews for me.

      But I like it this way…

      5 years ago
    • It does the same with me! I thought it was just me…I’M NOT ALONE!!!! XD

      5 years ago
  87. I’m freaking excited about Shinhwa’s comeback! It’s true that they won’t probably get as much hype as BTOB or EXO or some other new groups because they’re so “old”. But what you say almost makes it sound like people little older than what k-poppers are nowadays (geez, some of them are like… 15?) shouldn’t make music in Korea anymore? Like what? I definitely would like to see for examble DBSK making a comeback and music even after their military service…

    But yeah… Shinhwa are legends. And they do have people who are veeery excited about their comeback. Like me. And no, I’m not old. I’m 17. And no, I’m not Korean. And no I haven’t been in k-pop for like ten years, but three. But I think long enough to know how legendary they are.

    Yup. Going to vote for Shinhwa. The song is freaking epic.

    5 years ago
    • Wow…i feel like you just took my kpop life and age and typed it out…it’s so creepy…XD

      Anyways i agree i barely know Shinhwa, but once i heard how amazing they were i couldn’t help get excited for their comeback. And i was defiantly not disappointed with what i saw and heard

      5 years ago
  88. Well, as you mentioned the Shinhwa fanbase is very different. In Korea, many of their fans are people in their late 20s or 30s who have jobs, families and other commitments, and may not have the time to vote or crash servers. As for international fans, the fanbase is quite limited because by the time “Hallyu” truly took off, they’d gone off to the army. But as a fan of the group, I am definitely overjoyed that they are back. :)

    5 years ago
  89. Your viewers/fans are primarily non-Korean fans, the majority of whom didn’t get into kpop until after Shinhwa’s time, so it makes sense that they’d freak out over newer groups more.

    5 years ago
  90. haha I think CN Blue filmed the Hey You MV while they were here in LA for their concert with FTI :) I can totally see you two in that video being all awesome and funky though! you could do it way better than any of them actually did ;D 

    oh god… Batooba. cannot unsee. cannot unhear. I LOVE IT.

    5 years ago
    • I think I read that they filmed the video in Korea, because they were saying they were saying some of the extras were foreign exchange students who could speak a bit of Korean.

      5 years ago
  91. BtoB – isn’t it just simply ‘B to B’ ?

    5 years ago
  92. BATOOBA! trololol.. i am not yet a fan, but i’m seriously fan of their new name.. BATOOBA slays!

    5 years ago
  93. generation gaps I guess…

    5 years ago
  94. WOOT FIRST ONE TO COMMENT!
    well i absolutely adore shinhwa– they were  the start of korean idols (pretty close enough) and they did a great job in leading kpop culture! im so glad that they cam back! :)

    5 years ago