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KpopCharts Update: Shinhwa, CNBlue, BtoB

March 31, 2012

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1) Shinhwa “Venus”Vote for them here!

I’m kinda worried about what we said here for Shinhwa. See, back when we started Kpop Music Mondays, we talked about a lot of bands that we weren’t really familiar with. As time passed we got to know them more, understand them better, and kind of get to appreciate the inside culture of their fandoms. We’re more comfortable now with our Music Mondays than we were back when we started. Talking about Shinhwa today kinda brings us back to those first few reviews, when we still felt new. Shinhwa doesn’t really mean anything to us. We know they’re legendary, and that they mean a lot to other people, but they are before our time, and so they don’t really resonate with us. Sure, they resonate with lots of other people, but they don’t really seem to resonate with our KpopCharts audience, either. No servers are crashing for them. No votes are getting flooded. And so, they’re not having as big an impact as we thought they might, but we’re not surprised.

Long story short, we can only talk about Shinhwa based on the song we heard today…which is alright. Nothing really that takes us by storm. And the video is of confident men rather than of growing boys…so…yeah. Decent song, we guess!

2) CNBlue “Hey You”Vote for them here!

Last week we talked about CNBlue and couldn’t really say much about their video, which was cool for being artistically shot, but not something to really talk about. This video is much more up our alley! So many white people! Wow! Seriously: how did they get on set for that? What company do they work for? I’m hoping that one of you reads our blog and can answer this question for us. Come on! Don’t be shy! And – you potential trolls – don’t use this as an opportunity to pretend you were there just to lead us on. PICS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!

3) BtoB “Insane”Vote for them here!

BATOOBA

BATOOBA

BAOOTBA

BATOOBA

Kpop: stop making ridiculous names. Seriously. This is such a bizarre WTF name that I can’t even concentrate on anything else apart from my sheer confusion for stupid names. It’s like you eat alphabet soup and poop out band names. Stop it already.

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  1.  ok away from all the drama her ..
    i would like to say that i really love CN blue and yes cn blue music is so ammmm how can i say it cn blueeeyyy ><

    4 years ago
  2. Being 16 and not Korean, I’ve heard of Shinwa but never listened to them.
    BUT VENUS. I LOVE IT.
    ARGHH. I don’t know who to vote for now D:

    4 years ago
  3. I really like Shinhwa’s song, but I don’t think I could ever fangirl over a bunch of 30 year olds. :s But I’m sure these guys were hawt several years ago.

    4 years ago
    • I think Shinhwa is not the “one” for you, but trust me sometimes you fangirl over ppl as old as ur parents…e.g. Cha Seung Won, he’s SO sexy! ;)

      4 years ago
    •  So when your idols grow a little older you will stop being their fan?

      4 years ago
      • No that’s not it. I’ll still like them because when they’re older, I’ll be older as well continuing to like and listen to their music. Like Martina said, older fans of New Kids on the Block get excited over their comeback, so I think it will be the same for me just with BigBang and SHINee. 

        4 years ago
        • And a few years from now when Big Bang turns 30 and a lot of the younger kids running around and saying they should stop making music, what will your reaction be? Will you sit back and watch as people tell your oppas are not fit to make music on the basis of age and not musicality? This is what SHCJ are having to deal with right now.

          4 years ago
        • My reaction would be “I don’t care what these kids say, I’ll always like BigBang.” It’ll really no different that what the Shinhwa fans are saying right now.
          **Note how I never said anything to bash Shinhwa, I actually praised them for this song.

          4 years ago
  4. I like the MAN BAND! :P

    4 years ago
  5. I like Shinhwa alot ..The new CD is great better then the last…I have been listing to Kpop for 7yrs now. They r not one of my OMG groups but I like them just the same. My granddaughter not so much she is 2yrs old and love’s Big Bang. Fantastic Baby she can’t get enough of.

    4 years ago
  6. haha glad i’m not the only person who noticed all the white people. i seriously think that cnblue were the only non white people on that set. that’s pretty much all i could focus on when watching this mv xD

    4 years ago
  7. Let’s not hate on Simon and Martina. If Shinwha is not your bias or you just heard about them, you probably would not be as excited as the noonas or older fans. Shinhwa’s song Venus is catchy and good but their performance was not up to par. However, I appreciate that they still perform and are there for their dedicated fans.

    4 years ago
  8. I’m kind of tired of the ‘perverted’ feeling I have when I see those young little boys acting all sexy, naked.. etc. So when I heard SHINHWA will be back my heart start beating very fast! I don’t know.. maybe 6 years ago I would have screamed of joy and excitement if EXO came out but now… I like more the manly feeling from SHINHWA than from EXO. And I’ve been waiting for their comeback. CNBlue’s song is great as well. I really love the way they’re doing music. But for now my vote goes to SHINHWA – VENUS. 

    4 years ago
    • Yep – I feel the same. I am older than Leeteuk so hot older guys making good music is fantastic. Finally I get to say “oppa”!!

      4 years ago
  9. Shinhwa isn’t well-known outside Korea I think. and your audience consists of foreigners mostly :)
    but you have to watch latest Music Bank on KBS… all those people shouting “Shinhwa” and singing along. I have never seen something like this on Music Mondays, even when TVXQ performed. 
    and, somehow, this is very refreshing that they are my age and still perform as an idol  group. all nowadays idol groups consist of boys and girls nearly a decade younger than me >.<

    4 years ago
  10. I should probably tell you that S Club 7 is getting back together for a summer tour and possibly a new record deal. Come on, you didn’t want to join the ‘S Club Party’?

    As for Shinhwa not applying to a younger demographic, I am 21 years old. I haven’t quite gotten to the age where I think I should be calling myself  a ‘noona’ but if going by your standards, should I be?

    One more thing- the name of Shinhwa’s fan club is ‘Shinhwa Changjo’. I am quite offended as a fan that you take the time to research other aspects of K-Pop whereas a simple google or wikipedia search could have told you the name.

    4 years ago
  11. Batooba give me a very Batoost feel in terms of sound and look. Maybe cause they’re from the same company..but the song’s rather catchy~ XD I like it.

    And I can’t say the same for Shinhwa. It’s great they’re back but somehow I feel like they’re worn out and tired…I don’t know..but that’s what I feel from that MV.

    4 years ago
  12. hahaha S Club 7!!!!!!!! i used to LOVE them so much!!!!!!! (i want Busted back!!) 

    4 years ago
  13. It is strange to see them performing, as they are considered old in the Kpop world, but I’m glad they are back. Its kinda creepy for me to watch SHINee and all the debuting rookies trying to act sexy when they aren’t even 18/19 yet. I feel like a creep since I’m years older than them. 

    4 years ago
    • I was thinking abt suing SM for making me watch child porn, then I remembered Taemin is legal, still…those pics were bad. Im still sad that Beakho from NU’ESt is so young T_T He looks older.

      4 years ago
  14. I ended up listening to S Club 7 because of you ;] 

    4 years ago
  15. sorry but… where is spica? *cries*

    4 years ago
  16. Boy you guys decided to really put your necks on the guillotine XD

    I hadn’t listened to any of their stuff before and mostly knew about them through Eric and also am about 10 years younger than them, but when their album dropped, I was in love. I think the single is amazing, the rest of the album even more so, especially “It Hurts”. I did have some anticipation as the excitement from other fans and especially other idols for their comeback (one of those times when “comeback” actually makes sense) was really infectious, but still wasn’t sure what to expect. But I got quality music, interesting MV, and cool choreography. Also, actual grown men performing is a plus, not a minus (no awkward “oh, he’s hot” “oh…he’s a child” moments here). They have a sexiness and a confidence that only comes with age. One person mentioned they’re a “breath of fresh air”, and that’s exactly what I felt with Shinhwa’s comeback.

    4 years ago
  17. For me, Shinhwa is a breath of fresh air actually. They’re mature, confident, they know what they’re doing, their talent is indisputable, their album is consistent and I can’t imagine their image bouncing from aegyo-balls to manly men from single to single (and there are no awkward moments of under-aged crotches in my face).

    I haven’t listened to Shinhwa before their latest album and they blew me away at first listen which isn’t something I experience often. I’m so glad they’re back even though they’re basically new to me.
    Rookie bands often seem lost and it takes a while for them to find their sound (which is rarely unique) and start looking comfortable in the spot light. Shinhwa’s experience takes away all the baby-illnesses and leaves us with amazing music and fun idols.

    4 years ago
  18. I’m 26, and neither married nor with kids. But I’ve been a fan since 2001 when I was 14, I literally grew up in the fandom, wasting away my highschool years in the SHCJ forums… Shinhwa was the kpop group I taught myself Photoshop for so I can make wallpapers/icons/banners/graphics to show my support…

    I have since gone to college and now a registered nurse. Dont have that luxury of time to sit & keep voting like a crazed young fan anymore, but that doesnt mean my live for my oppas have diminished. Venus is damn catchy and It Hurts is just fuckin amazing —

    I’m so glad that Shinhwa’s doing this comeback for their loyal “orange princesses” Mad respect right there.

    4 years ago
    • yy

       Agreed. I don’t think Youtube counts or stats on this site can be an accurate indicator of Shinhwa’s popularity or the excitement that surrounds their comeback. The demographic of EYK fans is not necessarily reflective of all kpop fans. What about other statistics, like how quickly their comeback concert sold out? I think that definitely reflects how excited people were to see them back.

      4 years ago
  19. Um Hey You was recorded in America, hence the white people.
    Shinhwa fans are Shinhwa Changjo.
    Your playlist mode is also broken. It keeps putting the MVs together and your bits together. If they show the MVs at all.

    4 years ago
  20. And it’s not like some men in their 30s are so concerned about having more teenage girls “in love” with them lol. So, no showing off abs, no lip(..what was that term again?…gosh), and other things. They came back for their devoted fandom, and they have for sure way more Korean fans that any other new group. 

    4 years ago
  21. Nah, no hate from me. I’m not a huge Shinhwa fan but they were the first kpop group that really got me into kpop and I heard of them late, like back in 2006. They’re one of the few groups (along with H.O.T and G.O.D) that I can truly call “oppa”s since I’m in my late 20’s. I was a bit worried about their comeback but I was pleasantly surprised that they didn’t go all out to compete or sound like the many hoobae groups of now. While their sound has a new sound (such as dubstep), it still has a very Shinhwa-esque aura to it. It reminded me of “Brand New” from a few years ago. I still think they’re relevant, a bit nostalgic but a breath of fresh air among all these debuting groups this year. It’s nice to see an old familiar face again. Makes me want to rewatch their old MVs as ridiculous and cringeworthy some were lol But that old kpop really had a distinct sound. 

    4 years ago
  22. BtoB reminds me of the french boyband we had in the 90s called 2be3 (yeah, they were three)(and it was supposed to sound like “to be free”) (and only french people knew them anyway), we could start an awful boyband name contest.

    4 years ago
    • Que de souvenirs avec les 2be3 !
      Tu te souviens de la parodie ? Partir un jour….à Carrefour…sans se retourner…..
      Toute mon enfance^^

      4 years ago
  23. omg canadian listen to s club 7 
    i thought it was just a english thing
    I LOVED THEM
    “dont stop booging to the boogy boogy beat, dont stop booging to the s club beat”

    4 years ago
    • I listened to them too! (and I’m French) We had their TV series too, which was fun. Good old times~

      4 years ago
  24. Lol youtube play list wanted to warn me for the Shinhwa video he just skipped on and went to martina her part :P 

    4 years ago
  25. Shinhwas fanclub name is Shinhwa Changjos :)

    4 years ago
  26. I agreed to Simon that Shinwa comeback is not very healthy for marketing. Personally, I’ve only heard the name ‘Shinwa’ but never actually listened to their song. So there aren’t a lot of the possibility that I will sit in front of the computer for a whole day voting for them.

    However, at the same time, this is an opportunity to introduce this group to younger audiences. Yes, they might not crashed your server, but at least it made some people (like me) aware of them, their ability, and their song.

    So I’m not completely disagree with Simon and Martina, but I’m not agreeing with you all the way either

    And I guess this comes down to the ‘Song’ itself. If the song is good, they got my vote. If not, then too bad….. :)

    4 years ago
  27. Shinhwa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m so glad because of comeback of shinhwa!! I can’t write in english well so I can’t write a lot of words for comeback of shinhwa but I want to recommend two music of shinhwa ‘wild eyes’ and ‘brand new’ to you. They are old but good songs.

    4 years ago
  28. Since my Korean obssesion started with ShinHwa I was so waiting for they’re come back. I was so happy that they returned. I love the song but MV was… a bit.. awekward..? lol, But, personaly for me it was such an event since I knew them before. Their previous work, their X-man shows.. Seeing them again was like goin back in time. You dont have that experiance with them but just think of your very first k-pop band that you loved commin back on stage and thats how it was for many of us to see ShinHwa. (even if i still belive they could do better with the dance choreography, haha). And no matter what Im their fan for life. ^.^v  Oh, and Im 26 so i perfectly go into mid 20s fan range hehe.

    4 years ago
  29. Just think how crazy excited you would be if DB5K got back together and had a comeback, or if SJ or Shinee went off to the army for several years and managed to stay together and come back and this was their comeback song…if you’re fans of them now, think about how happy or excited you would be…that’s my take on Shinhwa

    4 years ago
    • Oh yeah, we get it. I’d be really excited, but I STILL wouldn’t give a crap what other people said or think about DBSK. Other people’s comments or opinions don’t affect my love for a band. :D

      4 years ago
      • Totally kinda cool that you took the time to respond to me :), just really was passing through and dropping my 2-cent thoughts on the whole matter. But I do agree with you and I definitely respect your opinions and videos, too! I also see where the other commentors are coming from although some are um…more passionate about it? 

        Ultimately I’m glad you have this forum where people can have a (generally)good discussion about the trends in kpop. I find this topic especially relevant in the setting of what happens and what will happen to kpop bands when they get older (considering there are so many new bands coming out that I can’t even figure out who is what), and how they can stay relevant to both their hardcore fans and brand themselves to new fans as they come back to a setting that has also moved on. It is especially relevant, I feel, because since miltary enlistment is mandatory, all the kpop boy bands are going to have to face this facinating dilema (if they don’t disband before then >_<).

        Otherwise, since it seems you are reading the comments in this section, just wanted to say hiiii! ^__^'n""""  

        4 years ago
  30. In my opinion, I’m a new kpop fan but I’m obsessed with their new song. I totally agree that they probably shouldn’t have named their song that considering I’m hearing something totally different and wrong. People question why I like Shinhwa though I’m super young [14], but that song is just awesome. I just hope that they’re song will be able to get just as famous as the new debut groups or SHINee. 

    CN Blue’s new song is really catchy but what’s up with the daridoo nonsense that went on in I’m A Loner and Intuition. It has to stop man. But, I still love the song.

    4 years ago
  31. LOL NKOTB did try a comeback a few years ago and then last year I believe went on tour with Backstreet Boys. It was called NKOTBB. Think it only excited their fans from back in the day, didn’t make a huge impression on the music world. (FYI New Kids on the Block was my first concert).

    4 years ago
    •  Their 2009 comeback album “The Block” was #1 on the Billboard Pop Album chart and #2 on the Billboard 200. The 2011 album with BSB made it to #7, and only had two new songs. I was at one of their 2009 concerts and there were more than just fans my age from back in the day. (FYI the first time I saw the New Kids on the Block was 1989.)

      4 years ago
  32. Am I the only person having problems with the playlist? Yesterday and today it either playlists the MV videos or Simon & Martina’s review (in other words skipping the vid inbetwee). I have to open the playlist and go back. Or maybe YouTube has lost its mind…I believe it is the later.

    4 years ago
    • me 2!!!!!!! omg

      4 years ago
    • Yeah, I had that problem yesterday too! What’s up with the every other video crap, youtube. though glad to know it’s not a my computer hates me problem….

      4 years ago
    • It’s only Simon and Martina when you watch the playlist here, and it kept it’s original form on Youtube. And it makes more sense this way, because here you have the MVs on this page anyway. I’m liking the new format, but can see how people will get confused with any little change.

      4 years ago
    • No MVs…Just Simon and Martina reviews for me.

      But I like it this way…

      4 years ago
    • It does the same with me! I thought it was just me…I’M NOT ALONE!!!! XD

      4 years ago
  33. I’m freaking excited about Shinhwa’s comeback! It’s true that they won’t probably get as much hype as BTOB or EXO or some other new groups because they’re so “old”. But what you say almost makes it sound like people little older than what k-poppers are nowadays (geez, some of them are like… 15?) shouldn’t make music in Korea anymore? Like what? I definitely would like to see for examble DBSK making a comeback and music even after their military service…

    But yeah… Shinhwa are legends. And they do have people who are veeery excited about their comeback. Like me. And no, I’m not old. I’m 17. And no, I’m not Korean. And no I haven’t been in k-pop for like ten years, but three. But I think long enough to know how legendary they are.

    Yup. Going to vote for Shinhwa. The song is freaking epic.

    4 years ago
    • Wow…i feel like you just took my kpop life and age and typed it out…it’s so creepy…XD

      Anyways i agree i barely know Shinhwa, but once i heard how amazing they were i couldn’t help get excited for their comeback. And i was defiantly not disappointed with what i saw and heard

      4 years ago
  34. Well, as you mentioned the Shinhwa fanbase is very different. In Korea, many of their fans are people in their late 20s or 30s who have jobs, families and other commitments, and may not have the time to vote or crash servers. As for international fans, the fanbase is quite limited because by the time “Hallyu” truly took off, they’d gone off to the army. But as a fan of the group, I am definitely overjoyed that they are back. :)

    4 years ago
  35. Your viewers/fans are primarily non-Korean fans, the majority of whom didn’t get into kpop until after Shinhwa’s time, so it makes sense that they’d freak out over newer groups more.

    4 years ago
  36. haha I think CN Blue filmed the Hey You MV while they were here in LA for their concert with FTI :) I can totally see you two in that video being all awesome and funky though! you could do it way better than any of them actually did ;D 

    oh god… Batooba. cannot unsee. cannot unhear. I LOVE IT.

    4 years ago
    • I think I read that they filmed the video in Korea, because they were saying they were saying some of the extras were foreign exchange students who could speak a bit of Korean.

      4 years ago
  37. BtoB – isn’t it just simply ‘B to B’ ?

    4 years ago
  38. BATOOBA! trololol.. i am not yet a fan, but i’m seriously fan of their new name.. BATOOBA slays!

    4 years ago
  39. generation gaps I guess…

    4 years ago
  40. WOOT FIRST ONE TO COMMENT!
    well i absolutely adore shinhwa– they were  the start of korean idols (pretty close enough) and they did a great job in leading kpop culture! im so glad that they cam back! :)

    4 years ago