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KpopCharts Update: Shinhwa, CNBlue, BtoB

March 31, 2012

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1) Shinhwa “Venus”Vote for them here!

I’m kinda worried about what we said here for Shinhwa. See, back when we started Kpop Music Mondays, we talked about a lot of bands that we weren’t really familiar with. As time passed we got to know them more, understand them better, and kind of get to appreciate the inside culture of their fandoms. We’re more comfortable now with our Music Mondays than we were back when we started. Talking about Shinhwa today kinda brings us back to those first few reviews, when we still felt new. Shinhwa doesn’t really mean anything to us. We know they’re legendary, and that they mean a lot to other people, but they are before our time, and so they don’t really resonate with us. Sure, they resonate with lots of other people, but they don’t really seem to resonate with our KpopCharts audience, either. No servers are crashing for them. No votes are getting flooded. And so, they’re not having as big an impact as we thought they might, but we’re not surprised.

Long story short, we can only talk about Shinhwa based on the song we heard today…which is alright. Nothing really that takes us by storm. And the video is of confident men rather than of growing boys…so…yeah. Decent song, we guess!

2) CNBlue “Hey You”Vote for them here!

Last week we talked about CNBlue and couldn’t really say much about their video, which was cool for being artistically shot, but not something to really talk about. This video is much more up our alley! So many white people! Wow! Seriously: how did they get on set for that? What company do they work for? I’m hoping that one of you reads our blog and can answer this question for us. Come on! Don’t be shy! And – you potential trolls – don’t use this as an opportunity to pretend you were there just to lead us on. PICS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!

3) BtoB “Insane”Vote for them here!

BATOOBA

BATOOBA

BAOOTBA

BATOOBA

Kpop: stop making ridiculous names. Seriously. This is such a bizarre WTF name that I can’t even concentrate on anything else apart from my sheer confusion for stupid names. It’s like you eat alphabet soup and poop out band names. Stop it already.

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  1. I’m kind of tired of the ‘perverted’ feeling I have when I see those young little boys acting all sexy, naked.. etc. So when I heard SHINHWA will be back my heart start beating very fast! I don’t know.. maybe 6 years ago I would have screamed of joy and excitement if EXO came out but now… I like more the manly feeling from SHINHWA than from EXO. And I’ve been waiting for their comeback. CNBlue’s song is great as well. I really love the way they’re doing music. But for now my vote goes to SHINHWA – VENUS. 

    7 years ago
    • Yep – I feel the same. I am older than Leeteuk so hot older guys making good music is fantastic. Finally I get to say “oppa”!!

      7 years ago
  2. I’m freaking excited about Shinhwa’s comeback! It’s true that they won’t probably get as much hype as BTOB or EXO or some other new groups because they’re so “old”. But what you say almost makes it sound like people little older than what k-poppers are nowadays (geez, some of them are like… 15?) shouldn’t make music in Korea anymore? Like what? I definitely would like to see for examble DBSK making a comeback and music even after their military service…

    But yeah… Shinhwa are legends. And they do have people who are veeery excited about their comeback. Like me. And no, I’m not old. I’m 17. And no, I’m not Korean. And no I haven’t been in k-pop for like ten years, but three. But I think long enough to know how legendary they are.

    Yup. Going to vote for Shinhwa. The song is freaking epic.

    7 years ago
    • Wow…i feel like you just took my kpop life and age and typed it out…it’s so creepy…XD

      Anyways i agree i barely know Shinhwa, but once i heard how amazing they were i couldn’t help get excited for their comeback. And i was defiantly not disappointed with what i saw and heard

      7 years ago
  3. I’m 26, and neither married nor with kids. But I’ve been a fan since 2001 when I was 14, I literally grew up in the fandom, wasting away my highschool years in the SHCJ forums… Shinhwa was the kpop group I taught myself Photoshop for so I can make wallpapers/icons/banners/graphics to show my support…

    I have since gone to college and now a registered nurse. Dont have that luxury of time to sit & keep voting like a crazed young fan anymore, but that doesnt mean my live for my oppas have diminished. Venus is damn catchy and It Hurts is just fuckin amazing —

    I’m so glad that Shinhwa’s doing this comeback for their loyal “orange princesses” Mad respect right there.

    7 years ago
    • yy

       Agreed. I don’t think Youtube counts or stats on this site can be an accurate indicator of Shinhwa’s popularity or the excitement that surrounds their comeback. The demographic of EYK fans is not necessarily reflective of all kpop fans. What about other statistics, like how quickly their comeback concert sold out? I think that definitely reflects how excited people were to see them back.

      7 years ago
  4. For me, Shinhwa is a breath of fresh air actually. They’re mature, confident, they know what they’re doing, their talent is indisputable, their album is consistent and I can’t imagine their image bouncing from aegyo-balls to manly men from single to single (and there are no awkward moments of under-aged crotches in my face).

    I haven’t listened to Shinhwa before their latest album and they blew me away at first listen which isn’t something I experience often. I’m so glad they’re back even though they’re basically new to me.
    Rookie bands often seem lost and it takes a while for them to find their sound (which is rarely unique) and start looking comfortable in the spot light. Shinhwa’s experience takes away all the baby-illnesses and leaves us with amazing music and fun idols.

    7 years ago
  5. omg canadian listen to s club 7 
    i thought it was just a english thing
    I LOVED THEM
    “dont stop booging to the boogy boogy beat, dont stop booging to the s club beat”

    7 years ago
    • I listened to them too! (and I’m French) We had their TV series too, which was fun. Good old times~

      7 years ago
  6. WOOT FIRST ONE TO COMMENT!
    well i absolutely adore shinhwa– they were  the start of korean idols (pretty close enough) and they did a great job in leading kpop culture! im so glad that they cam back! :)

    7 years ago
  7. This is the first Shinhwa’s song i’ve ever heard, not expecting anything at first. But then, i love it so much! It grews on me surprisingly quick. After watching the video (like,.. ten times :p), i just dive in to their past and current variety shows. They are funny as hell!! I guess they are born to be entertainers and that doesn’t age. Comparing them to NKOTB is kinda unfair, bcs when NKOTB occured their comeback single “Summertime”, they are too old for that single. It doesn’t really fit their age and leave the pedobear impression to me. kkkk sorry, just my opinion. But Shinhwa members are still on their early 30s, so if you compare them to BSB or NSYNC or Westlife, that is fair. Bcs i consider Mark from Westlife is still hot (though his gay, but its ok :’) ). IMO, Venus fits the man-band concept and Shinhwa still manage to have their charisma among kpop fans, not only fan in their time. And, i guess Venus is climbing up to number 3 on your chart, right? :))

    7 years ago
  8. I dun know why i felt ‘offended’ by S&M views on SHINHWA. I personally barely knew them. I just knew eric becoz he is an actor for Que sera sera and Muyng Wol the Spy and Andy for the Season 1 We Got Married… I never knew their past song and what I feel when reading on ur post is like u guys just dont give any space for them… U guys also barely knew them but SERIOUSLY guys i hope U guys can be more open minded… TQ… I love VENUS aka PENIS…. hahaha

    7 years ago
  9. yes, the playlist mode is broken.
    the latest Kcrunch coctail also was like this…

    talking about SHINHWA once again. I do not think that Simon and Martina were mean because they said about Shinhwa’s impact on nowadays kpop charts as irrelevant. I think they were a bit mean because they seemed to talk too ironicly –> it looked like they were forced to say something nice but they didn’t want to.
    I love sarcasm but it is passive aggressive behaviour. and people who are Shinhwa’s Changjo took it into themselves.

    on the other hand, I do not think that flame-war here would help. stop fighting with mean words. it is for nothing and only show your frustration. it won’t help – but instead will show you as immature people.

    btw, I also do not understand BILASA :(
    :D

    7 years ago
  10. Firstly, you guys are the fans and this is Simon and Martina’s blog. You don’t have the right to say anything about their opinion, you can only disagree. They were totally respectful while giving their opinion. And really, their opinion wasn’t even harsh. They said they don’t know them so they are just like any other band to them. Since they don’t know them, they have to judge them based on their talent and not their legendary status. Venus didn’t leave an impression on them which is fine. I like Venus a lot personally, regardless of the fact that the group is a legend or not. This is how you should judge a song/video.You need to put aside fandoms and judge songs and videos objectively. Simon and Martina are very good about putting aside the fandoms and being object, judging songs/videos by how good they are rather then how popular groups are even when it comes to bands they love. And honestly that’s what you all should do. I frowned a little when Simon and Martina called them old, but it’s all in good fun it’s not like they were being malicious and saying “your too old, go away”. It’s a fact that they are older compared to other boy bands but I like this about them. If you don’t like what they have to say, just leave.

    Secondly, I’m 20. I’m young. I think it’s a fact that us EYKs are of the younger generation and therefore we don’t know much about Shinhwa. They didn’t crash the site, but they did make it to the number 3 spot even when their not well known to some of us, so I think that shows talent. (Which Simon and Martina NEVER implied that they don’t have talent.)

    And to all of you telling Simon and Martina they’re harsh in their video, it’s called humor. You have to find things to make fun of and it’s all in good fun. Simon and Martina are not malicious people, unlike some of you guys trying to make them feel shitty over nothing. I thought the “Venus” “penis” thing was hilarious and if you didn’t find it funny that’s fine, but if your gonna be malicious no one ever said you had to watch these videos. We don’t want you here.

    Simon and Martina, you guys are great. I think what you do is awesome. It’s thanks to you guys that I discovered my love for k-pop. You guys have introduced me to so much awesome music, you keep me updated, make me laugh hysterically, and give me an outlet for k-pop loving all the way here in America where I have basically no k-pop loving friends. Being famous has it’s up and downs but don’t ever let it get you too down, because you’ll always have people who support you not matter what. Stay strong <3 hwaiting! Your my luv uh! uh! uh! uh! uh! uh! Venus (or penis, you're preference)

    Ps. I totally want to see this video get reviewed after all this drama.

    7 years ago
    • Just…just come here…come on. GROUP HUG!!!! Get in here Spudgy… *SQUISH*

      7 years ago
      • Group hug! =D

        The awesomeness of getting a reply from you guys overwhelmed me. Virtual group hug… I would die from awesome overload, but then I’d miss K-Pop Music Mondays tomorrow and that just will not do.

        7 years ago
    • I agree!

      And, thank you for explaining Bilasa in another post.  I’m a new person for knowing now. LOL.

      7 years ago
  11. ROFL BATOOBA XDDD

    7 years ago
  12. You guise know when watching a simonandmartina video you will hear their opinion on a subject! Their own personal opinion if you don’t like to hear and respect their opinions then don’t watch ^-^ I wuv you Spudgy , Martina and Simon <3

    7 years ago
    • I’m tired of this “don’t like don’t watch” attitude …. Simon and Martina express their opinions, post videos for people to see. Viewers are as much entitled to their opinion as Simon and Martina, and their way of expressing themselves is through comments and like or dislike button. Blogs are made for exchange of opinions.
      I find most of the responses here and on YT respectful and articulated in their thoughts. Simon asked for viewers opinions in the video as well.
      I watch and appreciate S&M for a long time now, and it is because I care about them that I bother to post my thoughts. Otherwise I would not waste time typing and thinking.
      On this particular video I disagree with them, but that doesn’t meen I don’t respect their opinions. Exchange of opinions makes people grow.

      7 years ago
      • Okay ^-^ hehe I agree with your point, but I think some people went to extreme with their opinions …..it just made me sad that they were attacking S&M TT A TT

        7 years ago
  13. JP

    hmmm the playlist doesn’t work too great this time. It plays your videos in playlist mode, but omitts the musicvideos.

    7 years ago
  14. JC

    wow, you just dissed Shinhwa.  If this words gets out you’ll never get another interview with KPOP anything in the future.  You guys are really, really clueless about the almost mythical status of Shinhwa has not just with all current KPOP idols but the entire nation of Korea.  You best hope this video doesn’t get viewed by a real Korean in the industry.   You’ll be shunned everywhere… hope you can keep this going w/o actually going anywhere close to actual KPOP stars or insiders. Let’s see if the U-Kiss boys will even look at you after seeing this travesty.

    7 years ago
  15. Hi Simon & Martina,
    yeah, i don’t know anything about Shinhwa either, other than that they sounded very familiar and were suppose to be a very big group when I was younger. And yeah, i agree, they are really the “man-band” now, compared to the innumerous boybands that sprouting up like crazy with their flower boys (and wedding bouquet what nots!). But that generation gap aside, i must say their comeback with Venus is still cool. Given that they have been away (for more than a couple of years?), I really dun expect them to return crashing servers like before. But their performance of Venus is still unmistakably that of the pros on stage to me. Welcome back, Shinhwa! Storm up Kpop again!

    7 years ago
  16. ok even though Shinhwa didnt get a lot of votes and I agree with Simon on his point,,, I actually liked the song a lot! .. i hadnt really listened to kpop when i was younger so i didnt know them too well but in reality they are probably at the age that I should be swooning over since the other band’s members (like shinee or exo) that I love are way to young for me lolol… im a noona ..lol

    7 years ago
  17. 1. Vussy — i died haha 2. S Club 7 Reference… wow i havent heard about them in forever THROW back!  i love it!

    7 years ago
  18. yes… we’re called BOICE ^w^….

    7 years ago
  19. I wonder if you guys will do a TLDR one of these days about fandoms and the comments you guys get.

    7 years ago
    • We’d love to talk about this for a TL;DR.  Boy, do we have a lot to say about it :D

      7 years ago
    • I think they need to be asked the question on the Moderator page before we can vote up…

      7 years ago
      •  I’ve just made asked a question. Don’t think it will be answered soon, but it’s there. ^.^

        7 years ago
  20. omg i thought i was the only late 20’s that loved kpop! thank God im not alone!!

    7 years ago
  21. dear Simon let me clarify you regarding the names of kpop bands
    they are called backronims (I think it’s spelled like that) check it on wikipedia and there is a hole article there
    and b2st is not read batoost as you say since 2 in Korean is 이 you read it  비르트 (I think that is how you spell it in Korean)
    so… hope this clarifies some misunderstandings :D

    7 years ago
    • no that is not how you spell it in Korean.. and he says Batoost at a joke.. its funny ..we get that its Beast and its not BILASA but they are bloggers they entertain us.. thats why they joke.. and its 비스트

      7 years ago
  22. I understand Batooba and Batoost… but I don’t get Bilasa.  I feel like I’m so slow on picking up the joke.  I hope someone explains. Thanks. :D

    7 years ago
    •  B1A4 – There are two difference number systems in Korean and in one of them, 1 is il (pronounce eel) and 4 is sa (pronounced sah) hence BILASA!!!

      7 years ago
  23. is no one mentioning SM using the poorly lit room for shinwha and that the girl floating at the end was scary..lol.. good song though!

    7 years ago
    • are you serious? Shinhwa left SM a long time ago *headdesk*

      7 years ago
      • im sorry im not knowledgable about SHINHWA.. but they were in SM so they def had some influence on them .. hence the poorly lit room.. hope your head doesnt hurt from the desk.. jeez kids these days..

        7 years ago
  24. fun fact back in the day was a Wednesday!  hahaha just thought id lighten the mood 

    7 years ago
  25. omg S and M i made a comment how i thought your review of shinee’s vid was more enthusiastic than your big bang.. i was just joking and stuff and people started replying and freaking out that I thought bb was better than shinee. and i was like well i do like BB better but just an opinion. and people kept freaking out so i had to delete the comment. so now I understand what you go through because It was one comment and a couple of replies but these fans are crazy! you cant have your own opinion they stress out major.. I feel bad for you cause a ton of people were commenting about your shinhwa review.. im not knowledgable about them because they werent together when i got into kpop but the song is catchy and they are cute and probably closer to my age than daesung *my husband*, but yea so stay strong and to all the Changjo’s,,, i understand your upset but give them a break. they were just saying…there opinion.. everyone is entitled.. just like i think Daesung should marry me.. you may disagree,,,,lol

    7 years ago
    • Haha sorry to hear about your bad experience! The worst part about this is that we don’t even dislike Shinhwa! We were literally talking about our personal kpop chart ranking and joking about their age! TOTALLY JOKING but now even if we got to know Shinhwa’s music, the crazy fans would be like, “YOU’RE FAKING IT!! AGHHHH!” if we don’t like them, “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW GREAT THEY ARE! ARGGHHHH!!” You really can’t win at this point. This is really the ugly side of kpop fandoms. Next time we meet Daesung, I’ll put in a good word for you! ^^

      7 years ago
  26. CUBE needs to hire a new stylist… BtoB looks EXACTLY like B2ST

    7 years ago
  27. All they said was they didn’t know if Shinhwa was still popular enough to comeback, and they even admitted they might be wrong.

    It’s like Madonna, a legend in her own time, but her new album flopped because she is not that popular with the younger generation. Simon and Martina just said that the same thing MIGHT happen to Shinhwa.

    Anyway, about the Cn Blue thing, I think it is possible that they filmed it in L.A. while they were there for their concert.

    7 years ago
  28. I’m not sure what to say but… I love you Guise. I wait for Tuesday every week to see you k-pop music Monday. (and WANKing, of course) and I’m feel awful to see many discourage comments about this week video. But I gotta say We all can make mistake. You done yourselves this time. I agree with some comment below such as you video is not fun as it used to be. (which i ask myself why too. In some older video, I laughed my side-sore) and Please do some research next time (which i know you do and just tried to be funny). For the sexual related jokes, I don’t know since i’m Asian and not Korean. Sometime is funny and sometime is just plain dead. Maybe reconsider your script more.

    The reason I started to follow your blog is you dare to make fun of K-pop Band. That’s right. In my country, we love K-pop in younger generation. it expand their fan base more and more, which I find disturbing at that time I just new to K-pop and saw many Thai artist follow K-pop footstep. Enough story about me. One day I tried to find some M/V to watch and I found you Guise. and Boy, I love it ! How you make fun of K-pop M/V that is what I’m looking for to see other side of it that fan girl won’t approve. (So keep making fun of them even it have to be BigBang or VIP)

    Thanks for being part of my life that introduce me to Korean culture, music and many more. 
     
    Please Don’t feel bad about other comment so much, refresh yourselves and  keep on making good quality video. ^U^

    P.S. Sorry for my Simon-Won’t-Approve English. I haven’t use it properly for long time….  

    7 years ago
  29. I just don’t understand… many of you Changjos are claiming, “Oh, our fanbase as a whole is older and more mature, we don’t have time to do all the ridiculous things fans of younger groups do”… but how mature is it exactly to pounce on  and rant away to people for sharing their opinions and liking different music than you and not knowing your fanclub name and …God forbid, making a penis joke?! I don’t know about the rest of you, but those who aren’t amused by a well-placed penis joke are just a bit too srs business (I’m so serious, yeah!) for me.

    7 years ago
  30. BTOB is not a stupid naaaammmmeeeee!!!!!! its cool cause it stands for “born to beat”!!!!!! have your own thoughts Simon but I think its awesome!!!!1

    7 years ago
  31. Whoa, whoa. What’s with all the mean comments, all of a sudden? Like, the first ten are (respectfully and not) telling M&S that they don’t know what they’re talking about. Shinhwa are awesome and talented, yes. But they’re right. They’re older. It makes sense for them to have an older fanbase. That doesn’t mean you can’t like them as a younger viewer. Hell, look at Bi/Rain and Leeteuk. They’re both ten years older than I am, but I’d come running in a heartbeat. They’re also promoted more overseas (my country), and more currently.

    Today’s popular image is that of the Flower Boy. SHINee and SuJu both have that image and they are the more currently popular. I’m not saying Shinhwa doesn’t have a large fanbase, but here’s the three types of people I run into most who like them:

    Old fans, who were fans back when they were mid-career.

    K-Pop obsessives, who know most bands since 1980.

    K-Pop hipsters. “Oh, you listen to SHINee? They’re cool, I guess. My favorite’s Shinhwa. They’re kind of the original, you know? But, I mean, SHINee’s ok too.”

    It’s like the Rolling Stones. Sure, they have younger fans. But the majority (not whole of, but majority) of people at all their comeback concerts will be the three groups I stated above.

    TL; DR –  In a foreign audience, what’s current is what’s most  popular. Current is not Shinhwa, even though they have talent.

    7 years ago
  32. I once read somewhere that you should never read the “comments” section of the media you watch on internet because that is where people go to forget their manners and just say whatever they want, unfiltered.

    I made the grave mistake of looking through the comment section on this post. Oh my! Who knew people get so worked up over a difference of opinion on MUSIC? Seriously.. it’s a band, people, not reproductive rights.

    Simon and Martina, you guys still rock. Haters gonna hate. Your true fans love you – and respect your opinions even if they are different from our own.

    7 years ago
  33. cnblue is the best kpop band
    without the dancing routines and robotic moves
    they are the freestyle of what kpop would be if it decided to freestyle! lol
    cnblue so cool so charming
    should listen to in my head solely composed by yonghwa and the japanese single where you are also composed by yonghwa
    that is the true sound of cnblue and the future sound hopefully

    7 years ago
  34. Just to add my two cents ^^:

    I was also disappointed with the opinion of Simon and Martina, I hoped they’d as excited as I was for this return but no…. and it’s alright ! You guys have your own opinion (I almost always agree with you^^) so I wasn’t offended or anything.

    The first time I heard Venus I was a bit surprised, the chorus I thought was a little weird (my loooooove ….Venus), that the Venus bit was a bit off but it grew on me and I can’t stop listening to it and mimicking (or trying to) the choregraphy (and looking ridiculous while doing it).

    I do believe that Shinhwa is more than just music. While I do love their music, I discovered the boys with Xman and their amazing personalities. They are incredibly funny. I suggest you watch Win Win with Shinhwa or the Shinhwa Broadcast, it may help understand a bit the history of Shinhwa (debut, success, though times…). 

    While Shinhwa was popular (and still is), it was honestly never as big as g.o.d or h.o.t (they debuted before and were a revolution for SK) but unlike all the other groups, Shinhwa stuck together even after they “separated” with the army or solo activities, they always promised they would come back as a group. And after 14 years, they are still together. 

    They are all signed under different companies (some even have their own!) so in order to do their group activities, they created a company (Shinhwa Company) and each brought in an equal amount of money, all that just to keep their promise to their fans and come back as a group. They are not nearly as young as the new groups out there, they don’t have the same stamina (Hyesung and Andy got injured during this come-back) and their dance can’t be as impressive as it used to be but it’s still awesome. 

    Instead of fighting with them over something so trivial (they weren’t even that harsh!), let’s vote for Shinhwa and try to make them win the kpop charts :)

    —–

    If you don’t want to read all of this, a little recap: song is great, the guys are awesome and Simon and Martina are entitled to their own opinions. Let’s vote for Shinhwa – Venus !

    7 years ago
  35. First off: I wouldn’t care if anyone bashed any band I like. Why? Because it’s just their opinion! It doesn’t effect ANYTHING! I still like the band! The band is still successful! Yay all around!

    Second: Shinhwa will always will be a legend to those people that know Shinhwa, but that will NEVER change the fact that we just personally don’t know them! It’s not an insult, it’s just a plain old fact. 

    Third: We make fun of TONS of fan club names and the names of actual kpop bands! It’s just for fun.

    7 years ago
  36. Even I do not agree with some words spoken by Simon and Martina, I still respect their opinion. We all have different point of view and the diversity makes life become more interesting. I do not expect everybody has the same feeling as me, for what I feel when Shinhwa makes their comeback. They are coming back, for me, it made my day. So we should put all the drama aside and just enjoy their music, don’t take everything to heart.

    I think all the 6 members of Shinhwa are aware of how their fans are feeling, because before they went in hiatus in 2008 due to military service, they gave their fan a goodbye concert, and the CF of their concert reflected their thoughts. You can check out the CF here. Personally, I love that CF, it showed even if their fans grew older, have other interest, Shinhwa was, be, and will take  a special place in their heart. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qasA7yByU4A). The background music for the CF is “Throw my fist”, one of their hits. 

    Instead of blaming Simon and Martina, I think it will be better if we can show this wonderful couple about Shinhwa rather than just throw words to fly all over the place. Dear Simon and Martina, if you are new with Shinhwa, one of the song I can recommend to listen to is “Once in a lifetime” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-OhegVtbaQ). If you see the MV, you can actually spot UEE of After School before her debut ^____^~. Or, you can check out “Brand new”, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR46mwxCanY), another hit of them, which the MV and the dance has some similarity to their new song “Venus”.

    I wish both of you all the best. Love

    7 years ago
  37. The thing about the V is that koreans in general have problems speaking the V and most times comes like a P or B… Trying seeing Infinite’s Nothing’s Over to see what I mean. S&M are not saying that Shinhwa speaks venus wrong, but that many will… it’s the same with the F sound. Ever heard in tv someone calling Fei from Miss A or Tiffany from SNSD? They speak the F like a P…

    7 years ago
    • A good example of this is when Jo Kwon was doing the intro for BoA’s Hurricane Venus song and he pronounced V as P.

      7 years ago
  38. Yes ZackEager is young.  He’s an opinionated little fuck and so am I.  We agree to disagree.  Every band listed in this argument, I am probably old enough to be everyone’s mom.  But I digress,  I love Kpop and I love to perv on Kpop,  Jailbait, 20’s, 30’s.. it’s all good.   Never heard Shinhwa sing til this video and yes I did like it.  Then again, Ren from NU’EST gets my motor running too…. :P
    BTW, I am 47  Old enough to know better and old enough not to give a shit….
    /keeponperving

    7 years ago
  39. I actually like this piece.  SHINWA may be a legend but for those of us new to KPOP, we can only base our opinion of SHINWA on what they have shown us recently.  As for myself, since there have been news that the legend SHINWA was making a comeback, I was quite open to see what they have in store.  I was also not pleased because the material is pretty much what I see everyday in the kpop sphere.  Not to say it’s bad.  It’s just that it did not stand out (not with me and not with the general present-day kpop community) which explains why it did not create a buzz the way SHINEE and EXO are getting. I think that is the same opinion held by Simon and Martina so why should it be wrong and all of you who have known SHINWA forever be right? 

    If you think differently, speak out but don’t be disrespectful… and don’t attack the people who gave opinions.  Not everyone thinks the same.

    7 years ago
  40. Some people really need to grow up. What the hell is with all this bashing and bad comments? It’s just a video about THEIR opinion on this song. If you disagree with them, this is it. Everyone has different opinions, you can’t kill people for what they think. From what I see they didn’t bash Shinhwa, neither did they say harmful things about them…They just said what they thought while being funny as always. This is why I think they are awesome, because they say what they think about songs and stuff even  if it’s a positive or negative thing. They are honest and this is the most important thing. 
    If you think their opinion is wrong, if you hate them or whatever why do you even spend your time commenting? This doesn’t make sense.Oh and I almost forgot, they made fun of Big Bang, they made fun of Shinee, SJ (And by the way I’m an ELF and I won’t get angry if they said sth. negative about them because, as I said it’s just their opinion and it won’t change my love for the group)  and so many other groups so your comment is invalid :P Simon, Martina, Spudgy, thanks for making awesome videos all the time. I respect you and I love your videos! You always make me laugh even if I’m not in a good mood. Don’t let these comments affect you and your work, because some people are just stupid. Go on and make honest videos like this! Love you, guys!

    7 years ago