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  1. *pokes head in*
    hi guys ㅠㅠ

  2. Just checking to see if you all can load this page still. Just in case the page breaks ( which it is due to do soon) , go over to the don’t hate me page – http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/kpopcharts/epik-high-dont-hate-me – and you can decide what to do next over there. I will check with the site admin.

  3. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Haha so S&M deleted the comments? Some1 said about a seperate section for complaints but what is the point if S&M won’t read them or put any value on them?
    This just gets more and more pathetic, if it wasn’t for the Epik Nasties I’d probably be done w/ this place. So much rage I want to unleash but it would just be pointless.

    As you can tell I’m incredibly infuriated with this whole thing, everytime I start to cool down something is said that rekindles the fire.

  4. iloveminhyun

    Is there still anyone left to choose their tops for the 2010 video?

  5. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Not very happy w/ S&M’s comments about last KMM.

    I’m not even gonna waste my time venting. They continue to mishandle the situation and not comprehend our point.

    • I think they comprehend they just don’t care they are gonna do what they want to do regardless. I’m not very happy that comments were deleted but this is not my web site and they have their vision on how they want things run. After last week they shouldn’t have to ask if we want a forum to discus the KMM selection process it think they already received their answer to that.

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        Creating a separate location for complaints was mentioned, what’s the point? S&M either won’t read them or they won’t take them seriously.

    • lumierenoire

      I feel like everyone needs a big hug.

  6. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    This made me chuckle because I thought the same thing before too.

  7. Yea!!! People posting their lists = me being able to narrow down my list!!! ^_^
    But I still have 5 songs to choose from for two honorables…… *sigh*
    Working on all the suggestions for the channel art. I might be able to post it later today (Minus art for this past month’s KMM winners) so we can all see how it looks in RL ^_^

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      Maybe for the extra space just do albums of songs some of us really like that are new but aren’t already on our list of artists. Because KMMs could have same artists like this montg or be an artist already on our art.

  8. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Line-up is freakin ridiculous! Too bad it’s in Japan…

    • Everything I want is in Japan. Everything. This can just append itself to the end of the list nicely.

    • ooo I read about this the other day when BTOB and VIXX were announced xD
      Its actually in Korea http://www.officiallykmusic.com/details-for-2013-dream-concert-announcedplease-schedule-asap/ I think that website you linked is for Japanese fans travelling to Korea… there is some details about flights and hotels at the bottom

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        Well doesn’t rly matter to me either way cause I won’t be attending lol.
        Pretty killer line-up though.

        Hey, I got the song on the channel if u wanna listen to the full version. In HD lol. :P

        • Yeah, there should be some good fan cams to watch after that concert (if they don’t broadcast some of it on Korean TV)

          Thanks for uploading it :) I watched the short PV for it this morning too.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          The short one is only like 2 mins or less isn’t it? lol
          For some reason the music just reminds me of Sonic, or like 90’s racing games… idk

          Ur link said somethin bout wanting to watch it, are they streaming it?

        • lol Yeah, I’m used to only getting like 2 mins of Japanese releases :P

          I don’t think they know if that concert will be filmed or not. Sometimes they are replayed on K-TV and sometimes they aren’t. We’ll probably know the week before the concert lol

          Oh and sometimes there are people that stream the concert (through their phones?) and you can watch them online xD

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Didn’t even think about it but is it on DailyMotion or w/e? Think I’ve found a couple of JPN songs that were removed from YT, on there.

  9. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    So nobody has any opinions on my 2nd Indie request? (Which is already down a ways…)

    I might just do both again…

  10. unicornsgalaxy

    Here are my picks for 2010. Can someone link them to Iloveminhyun for me? I have a business trip so wont be on for a while. If you guys need me or anything hit me up on twitter.

    #1 Beast – Breath
    #2 FT Island Love Love Love
    #3 Beast – Take care of my girlfriend?(say No) – I’m not sure if that’s the correct English title or not.
    #4 Suju – Bonamana
    #5 Secret – Madonna (If it wasn’t for Hyesung forever ruining Secret’s Magic for me it would have been hard to choose between the two)

    Honorable mentions:
    Suju – No other
    SHINee – Lucifer
    2Am – Never let you go

    Just one small tiny request: I don’t really care what clip is used but for at least one of Beast’s can it be when Yoseob is on the screen? He is such a little cutie pie!!!!

  11. Pixelization IS SUCH A PAIN


    Here’s like the prelim of the channel art. (I still want to make changes to it, not really satisfied with it….)
    There are 3 more spaces. The part in the far right is the part that would change monthly to include the past month’s KMM winners. I’m not sure what to do with that right now because of Lee Hi’s multiple wins….. meh……………………
    I’ll do something……
    or be biased and do a large U-Kiss thingie… ke ke ke…..

    Also there are 3 more spaces, I’m think of choosing from the below because these are the ones that made it to Round 2, but weren’t “winners”: Son Dam Bi, BtoB, F(x), LeeSSang, PSY, TVXQ, LEDApple, VIXX, Glam, Lunafly, SPEED, Dancing King, Eric Nam

    I was thinking at least:
    LED Apple – because I think I bunch of you like them? At least I know them.
    VIXX – because they’re awesome and I’m a bit biased >_<
    SPEED seem awesome too, but I also really like Glam. What do you guys think???

    Also, can I get some suggestions on:
    Block B, Miss A, Nell, Kim Jong Kook, Verbal Jint, JYJ, CN Blue
    It really bugs me that we can't see their name on the album art, so either suggestions for other album art, or how I should design their square (which just might be what I end up doing anyway)

    • I found some possibilities for JYJ. One is just their name written in red in their usual font, but I thought I’d include it anyway. I also found some album art that was made by a fan for In Heaven that is probably better than the one you’re currently using because it has them as well as JYJ written on it. The other two are album art from their earlier album, The Beginning. I think these are also good since you can see them as well as their name. I hope these help you out! I think the channel art looks great so far. Good work! ^_^

      EDIT: I like what you went with for MBLAQ. ^^

    • I’ve been looking at your comment all day, but haven’t had the chance to reply until now~

      I REALLY like what you’ve done! It looks awesome! *high five*

      Nell – You currently have the Holding onto gravity album, but yeah its hard to recognise that it is Nell. I’d say go with Separation Anxiety (http://www.jpopasia.com/img/album-covers/3/19676-andltahrefhttpwwwjpo-g822.jpg ) or Let it Rain (http://www.jpopasia.com/img/album-covers/3/20599-andltahrefhttpwwwjpo-z3e4.jpg ) because they have their name on the album.
      Super Junior – Personally I find the Sexy, Free & Single cover hard to read, but that could just be me??… The repackage for Spy has their name on the cover (http://www.jpopasia.com/img/album-covers/3/22942-andltahrefhttpwwwjpo-l84e.jpg )
      Miss A – I think Independent Women is alright, but if you wanted a cover with their name there is First Class (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FfCPG7sPWLc/TzvPBOKHh1I/AAAAAAAAFpU/aKlgdbUcmLg/s1600/AClass.png ) or Step Up (http://static.askkpop.com/images/albums/ST/393/Step-Up-Miss-A-album-_0_thumbnail.jpg ) but they are both older albums.

      MG had an idea for CNBLUE and Jamie has already talked to you about KJK, VJ, OC, Outsider, BAP and KARA. The other group you mentioned was JYJ… but I don’t really know anything about them sorry xD Maybe ‘The Beginning’ (http://www.jpopasia.com/img/album-covers/1/182-shbsirqbms-i51m.jpg ) because it has their name on it? but it will be hard to read in a small square anyway.
      Yeah I’m not much help xD hahaha
      EDIT: Wow could I say “has their name on it” a couple more times >.<;; Time to sleep I think

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        SHINee’s doesn’t have name & members are tiny but I really don’t have any problems with it. Then again I think their part two is coming this month if I remember correctly, so we’ll have a dif one soon enough.

    • I agree with Led Apple. For the rest? I say let it be your choice since you’re putting so much effort into it.

    • I like the idea of adding Glam and LED Apple.

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      I edited 1st reply but I’m going to double reply because I have quite a bit more to add.
      Block B stands for Blockbuster so I think they’re fine. This is actually VJ’s newest single’s cover. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I8BTpckqsn8/USaVANTPoTI/AAAAAAAALxw/W0Y9LNQdAgY/s1600/%5BSingle%5D+Verbal+Jint+%E2%80%93+If+It+Ain%E2%80%99t+Love.jpg
      Did you use Japanese albums for anyone else? Because if not then you should use Lipstick instead for OC. I think either way I’d prefer Lipstick over their newest JPN album, but it’s no big deal if you don’t want to switch it.
      Also Outsider’s album I noticed you used an old one but his newest one just shows a dog and is in Hangul so that’s fine. But if you’re going to do it w/ him you might as well do the same w/ the couple groups who I have no freakin clue who they are from album cover lol. (I think Nell is one of them, SuJu, whoever the crescent moon is…) But then again if people know the artist they will know the album cover because SHINee’s is kind of indistinguishable but SHINee fans will be able to recognize it.
      Also I would change Big Bang’s…

      But other than that, I really like it.

      EDIT: I don’t think there is a 3rd period on BAP, I think it’s B.A.P
      But honestly I don’t know if u have to write that in because their rabbit thingy is more recognizable than some of the other albums because they’ve used it multiple times.

      • The squares/album art – I was really hoping to be able to have all the names in them, so it’s the GROUP/PERSON that stands out and not just their album art. There is so much that I want to change about it, but this is the prelim (It was a headache trying to figure all the sizes and stuff out so it wouldn’t be all pixelated and ugly.)
        And even with the people on them, if someone doesn’t know who they are, they still don’t know who they are.
        I guess I could do something like what I did with Infinite, doing the logo and adding the name or what I did with Big Bang but adding the album art instead of my horrid attempt at re-creating a bird’s eye view of the scepter…..

        Outsider – I had a little trouble in my researching Outsider, so I wasn’t quite sure what was what there, so I just picked the one that had the name in English on it. (I was actually being worried that the guy wasn’t him because of the album art with the dog… I was so confused >_< )

        Juniel – Okay, I guess I'll add her as the 3rd one

        OC – I can do that.

        BAP – I know a few (nice) Babyz so I'll check with them on that.

        Thanks for the feedback ^_^

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      Juniel also made round 2 I just removed her to gey KJK in. LeeSSang and LED I think are most liked of those choices, I think most of the rest were double voted by one person.
      I like to stick w/ album art no matter what but w/e u guys want I guess. Most that don’t have name big at least have the people on them.

  12. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Welp seeya guys, I think I’ve had enough of this crap for awhile. Somehow drama is ALWAYS one sided and now fuuko is going on a tirade deleting all my comments.

    If you need me, try to find one of my comments that still exist and send me a reply.

    • Jamie, I would like to apologize to you. I misjudged the situation and said something which offended you. I am sorry.

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        Thank you, I probably shouldn’t have flipped out like I did, but I noticed both u and fuuko’s comments got upvotes in reply to it, and I got downvotes on my comment. I felt like you too had changed the focus of my post and made me make myself look bad (I don’t need help in that department lol.), or atleast amplified and drew attention to it.
        Idk there has just been a lot of drama since the review and I’ve been a little edgy because of it, so maybe things I normally wouldn’t reply to, say, or get as ticked off about are upsetting me.

        I just feel like it has only been one time we’ve complained about S&M and were getting attacked for it and being viewed negatively by a lot of ppl, so I’ve been defensive. (Which I guess they see us as attacking S&M, even though I didn’t say anything hateful towards them and I would have been A LOT more harsh if I was attacking them… Anyway…)

        Ramble ramble ramble, thanks, and I apologize for having a cow about it.

    • check out what i’ve done with the channel art???

  13. fuuko4869

    K.Will has an amazing new MV out. You know you want to vote it up :p


  14. iloveminhyun

    guys. Help me please.
    I’m going to the US this summer, and B.A.P is holding a concert in New York City then and I want to go so bad. I have the money and everything and I’m all set on going but I’m missing one thing. PERMISSION. grr, parents can be very difficult sometimes.
    What should I do to convince them? Really, like what do you think would be the most effective thing to do in situations like this? It’s something that I really really really want but my parents think it would be a waste of my money and that I’ve already spent most of my money on K-Pop this year anyways. But it’s B.A.P live for crying out loud. :/
    I wanna goo /breaks into a fit of tears/
    Some of you are adults and know the parental mindset, so please give this 18-year-old fangirl that loves her parents very much advice here.

    • Meh. I know how you feel. My mom and kind of have a push-pull-compromise thing going on.
      She won’t let me do EVERYTHING I want (of course that’s probably a good thing because since I usually use my own money, I’d be dead broke.) For big things, we usually sit down and talk and I’ll give her all the information and research I’ve done.
      They’re your parents, so it’s obvious they are going the care and worry about you.
      Maybe tell them all the information, like location, times, promise to call at certain times (and KEEP that promise), where you’re staying, if you’ll be with people that you trust, etc. etc.
      If it helps, I’m in the process of doing this research to bring to my mom to let me go to BAP concert (the 5/17 one right?) and I have 1-3 friend I’m PRETTY sure are going to go too, but I don’t think they’ve talked to their parents yet (They found out earlier today). Sooo I don’t KNOW yet.

      I’ll let you know if we are going, then at least you can tell your parents that there will be people that you can meet up with.
      It would also help if you know whether or not you’ll have someone you know/trust that will be with you, if not TO the concert, at least if there’s going to be someone with you back to where you’ll be staying AFTER the concert. I think it starts at like 6:00 PM right?? So, it’ll be LATE when it’s over. Bare in mind that this is NEW YORK CITY and at NIGHT. If I had a kid, I’d be worried too.

      • iloveminhyun

        omg that would be so cool if you were there and I could meet you! Yes, that would actually kind of help if I told them someone I knew was going too. If I do go, I’d probably go with my sisters so I wouldn’t be completely alone, but yeah, if you are going tell me; it might convince them :)
        I’m going to try with them in a week or so. Hopefully you’ll be able to go and I hope I will too!

        • It’s a no go on my end. Plans haven’t even been started and apparently tickets are either really close to sold out or already sold out…..

        • iloveminhyun

          yes, it’s sold out. So I can’t go now.
          But there may be a Boyfriend/B1A4/ZEA/Wonder Girls/T-ara/Kara concert in Texas some time later, I’ll try my luck with that one :)

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          B1A4 & Kara >>> B.A.P

        • iloveminhyun

          haha well you shouldn’t make comments like that :)

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Oh I’m sorry I forgot my opinion couldn’t be expressed.

          Them downvoting it is pretty much them saying B.A.P is better than both combined which is pretty ridiculous.

    • lumierenoire

      B.A.P are coming to my city and I may not even be allowed to go. I know your feels.

      On a side note, I’m so excited!!! I know what I’m going to be going on and on about tomorrow at school. 8D

      • iloveminhyun

        naww why not?
        Do you live in New York? Or are they going to another city? If they are, I might be able to go.
        I was so excited when I saw that B.A.P was holding a concert in the USA. I was soo excited, but then depressed after my parents said no. But I’ll try again! Wish me luckk!

        • lumierenoire

          Best of luck!
          It’s not so much that I’m not allowed. My dad said sure right away when I asked him because I haven’t really asked much from him before. I just… Always have this problem when having to make a big choice on something. Ill come up with excuses not to do anything no matter what for some reason. Luckily for me, a bunch of my friends are going and I’m asking them for advise on all the problems I keep coming up with. Such as seatings, prices, busing, and everything. Thank golly to goodness my school has so many Kpop fans, T-T

        • iloveminhyun

          haha it’s amazing that you have a lot of K-Pop fans in your school I live in a place where I am the sole K-Pop fan with one or two exceptions only. XD
          So yes I’m a lone K-Popper, so sad ;_;

        • lumierenoire

          Tends to happen when majority of your school is Asian..? ^_^;;

        • iloveminhyun

          haha that’s an advantage and a disadvantage at the same time ;)

    • unicornsgalaxy

      I never really had to try to convince my parents…usually they let me do whatever I wanted (within reason) and the stuff that I knew they wouldn’t let me do, I either didn’t tell them or lied…OH GOD!!! DON’T DO THAT!!! I wasn’t a “bad” teenager but I wasn’t little miss perfect. …on second thought, I’m not the one to be giving advice. LOL! It would probably be bad advice anyway.

      I would though, stress to them that this is a once in a lifetime thing though. I mean how many other time will you be able to go to a Kpop concert? And in the US yet!?

      Hmm…wonder if I should take a trip up to New York?

      • iloveminhyun

        I’ve lied before heh. Guilty me… but I don’t do it anymore. Last time I did it I felt so bad and it’s like still haunting me and they still don’t know I was a liar.
        and you should take the trip to New York so I can meet you :3 (If I go that is. /sigh/)

      • fuuko4869

        Same here – the biggest argument I’ve had was convincing them to let me read manga, and that was when I was 8 or something. Now even my parents read manga lol.

        I hardly ever ask them for anything, so when I do, they usually jump at the opportunity to please me :p

        Most of the concert tickets I’ve gotten were actually gifts from my parents or grandparents, or even if I buy it myself, I usually get one for my parents as well (I treated my mom to Sungha Jung’s gig because she’s a fan). If Big Bang had come to Australia, I would have bought plane tickets and concert tickets for my whole family :/

        I don’t know about the ‘once in a lifetime thing’, because what if she gets another chance to go to see Nu’est? You can only use that card once.

        I’ll ask my parents tonight. Maybe they can give some tips on how to convince your parents :p

        Btw, one of my best friends is currently living in NY to pursue her singing career. You wouldn’t have time to visit her on my behalf, would you? :p

        • iloveminhyun

          ah I just saw this comment heh :)
          The tickets are already sold out and I’m not going unfortunately. I would have loved to meet your best friend in New York though, if I had been going lol.

    • hmm that’s a tough one, I was never very good at convincing other people’s parents but convincing my parents was easy because I know how they think and what they were going to say. Which meant I could have answers and solutions ready when they had objections XD
      I’m guessing you’ve already tried talking to them about it and they’ve said no. Was the ‘waste of money’ the only reason they didn’t give permission? or were they using it as the ‘main’ reason? I’ve found making/planning a budget to be one of the best ways to combat the money argument. And showing them that although you are spending money on this, you are saving or have a plan for saving money.
      Having detailed plans and showing them that I’d thought everything through was the best thing I could do. If they thought I wanted to do something on a whim or “because I could” they protested a lot more. I used the “I’ve thought about it carefully and this is something I really want to do. These are my plans… this is what is going happen if I go… What can I do to convince you to let me go?…” My parents hated that one because they’d have to come up with reasons why I couldn’t go and as long as they didn’t use the “because I said so” or “I don’t want you to go” most of the time you can ease their worries by having an answer or solution. Or they gave up because they couldn’t think of any good reasons and when someone keeps asking you ‘but why?” it gets very tiresome very quickly.
      Other than that, the trade-off/sacrifice also worked for me sometimes. If they let you do something you want to do, make a sacrifice or do something they want you to do. To go to a party I’d have to do some babysitting or clean. Not sure what the trade-off for going to a concert would be, but I’m sure your parents (or you) could come up with something.
      I’m hoping something I’ve said might be of some help for you. Maybe you’ve already tried these ideas. Everyone’s relationship with their parents is very different and what worked for me, might not work for you. Just keep talking to them to find out why they are against it and how you can help ease their worries/objections.

      • fuuko4869

        Wow mognut, I’m impressed :p

        I did ask my dad for advice, and he basically said that being responsible in the past, with little things, would give reason for parents to trust their kids in the future, with big things.

        iloveminhyun, sorry I couldn’t be much help. When I was a kid, if my parents said ‘No’ the first time, I’d give up instantly. Yeh I was a sad kid :p But because of that, they know I’ll never do anything rash, so they kinda trust me with everything now ^^;

        I think I went to my first ever concert (Linkin Park) when I was 21. Lucky you :p

        • hahaha I never asked for much, but I’m really stubborn so when I did I didn’t give up :P
          My first concert was when I was 14/15? and I went with friends. I don’t even remember how we convinced them to let us go without adult supervision. Pretty sure the only reason they said yes was because we were living in Singapore :P

      • iloveminhyun

        “If they thought I wanted to do something on a whim or “because I could” they protested a lot more. I used the “I’ve thought about it carefully and this is something I really want to do. These are my plans… this is what is going happen if I go… What can I do to convince you to let me go?…” ”
        You are very right about that.
        I think that’s why they didn’t let me. It was sort of on a whim I went up to them and told them I wanted to go to New York for a K-Pop concert and they refused. I was stupid, but I did it because I was in a hurry because I’m pretty sure the tickets will sell out fast. So yes, I should have approached them about it differently. I regret it now.
        I don’t think money is the issue here, I think they’re using is as an excuse tbh. I have scholarships and I do make money and thankfully we are in a very good financial state. I think it’s just the fact they see that I’ve been buying things K-Pop related on a whim lately and they feel like I don’t understand the value of money. Plus they never liked K-Pop, so I think that’s part of it as well. I blame it on Nu’est’s latest comeback haha XD
        I’ll try talking to them in a few days if the concert tickets haven’t sold out that is, and I’ll plan out everything and give them a PowerPoint presentation and respond to their objections and do the whole trade-off thing you suggested. In a few days though so that they can see it’s not ‘on a whim.’
        You give really good advice btw. Next time I need advice, I’m coming to you. Thank you, really <3

        • (≧∇≦)/ You’re very welcome! Any time! Don’t hesitate to ask. I can’t always guarantee I’ll have the right answer but I’m glad I could be of some help this time~ and after the week I’ve been having its feels nice to do some good ^_^
          I think I was in a similar situation as you, money was never the real issue but it was the first excuse they came up with (especially when I had to ask my step father :P) lol
          So yes try again with a different approach :) I hope it goes well and let us/me know how it goes.
          Good Luck!!

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          The song is uploading on the channel.
          But idk if my net will cooperate, so if it isn’t up when u get on then that means it most likely failed and I’ll do it in the morning.

        • iloveminhyun

          Naw. I hope your week improves <3

  15. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    S&M should remove their PSN ID from their “About Us” section. I sent them a request in early Jan and still haven’t been accepted lol.

  16. Present. Had a really lazy sick and miserable day, yeah… Present.


  17. Hey @fuuko4869:disqus and/or soluiz, in the last 12 hrs or so, the YT channel has some copyright notices on the Seungri videos. I’m not sure what you want to do with the notices/videos.

    In other news on the YT Channel… After unicorn mentioned that she’d caught up on the 2013 videos, it reminded me to update the 2013 EYKA playlist and I realised that I hadn’t been adding the Indie playlist songs to the EYKA 2013 playlist. Oops. Anyway that’s all updated now (with only 1 deleted video!) and I’ve started a Part 2 for April onwards :)

  18. Have any of you guys been watching “Dad, Where are you going?” The premise is that these celebrity dads are going on a trip with their children alone ( without the mums) for the first time ever. OMG, it is the cutest most hilarious show ever! I love the fact that it is basically unscripted cause… Seriously 6 year olds and scripts don’t really work.

    If you are interested here is the link to the sub of the first episode.

  19. lumierenoire

    Whoo hoo, 2010’s done~ So many dudes… o -o I feel it’s lacking in girls.

    1.Lucifer- SHINee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dww9UjJ4Dt8
    2. Alone- CNBlue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7arOrCfvumQ
    3. Go Away- 2NE1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yW13T2sfKg
    4. Living in the Heart- Untouchable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxDeW0Af9DI
    5. Too Late- Coed School http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxGo1MvNls

    Honorable Mentions:
    Shock- B2ST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxGo1MvNls
    Hero- Outsider http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqI253TZPyA
    Time Spent Walking in Memories- Nell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vL_nWjFTPk

    And time for me to go back to doing homework…

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      Hey also if u want the chorus for Hero can u make sure iloveminhyun know that? Because I picked a random clip (I just choose fastest parts.) and I don’t want her using that for all of us that chose Hero since it isn’t the most recognizable part.

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      You didn’t want to include the (ft. ____)’s?
      Ur song u linked me had one, and Hero has somebody named LMNOP in it (I forgot to include that until this afternoon).

      But YAY some1 has Lucifer and you have it #1 so awesome!
      And Shock so that’s cool too.
      (I think we’re up to three people now w/ Hero by Outsider, YES!)

      • lumierenoire

        Ah, I forgot the featurings. I knew I was forgetting something. XD I’ll fix that the next time I’m on my computer.
        Outsider’s beyond amazing. Of course he’s on my list. :)
        There’s what, one and a half girl groups in there? XD

      • Outsider is the boss! His comeback is taking too loooong. Although MC Sniper managed to keep my temper tantrum at bay with Egobomb.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Yeah I have no clue what the crap is going on, there was images from his MV back in Jan I swear.

          http://okchulstar.tumblr.com/ I use this site to try and figure out/keep up w/ his crap going on but yeah it mainly has just been twitter posts and nothing to do w/ the vid or comeback rly. (Details-wise at least.)
          Although the latest post is interesting since it makes it sound like he might have left/be leaving the label.

        • I remember back in Jan.. I think it was Jan, he posted someone on Me2Day about knowing we are waiting on him and this was a treat… and he was apparently going to feature on something.. but I never found out any more.. SOBBING!

          Ugh, and I see they are as confused about the Sniper Sound thing as the rest of us. I understand Mandatory, I totally respect it and TBH I think many countries would benefit from sending their teens through boot camp.. But it so messes with my spazzing. ‘-_-

        • Oh he was featured in some songs and I think it was on charts. But idr artist or song.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Oh he was featured in some songs and I think it was on charts. But idr artist or song. (Hit delete on my touch screen on accident )

        • I remember reading the artists song and name somewhere, but I couldn’t find the song for the life of me. I just once again basically saw it as a result of living in AusNarnia – where Kpop does not dare to tread. Probably some Korea only locked video somewhere on youtube.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Naw I listened to it so it wasn’t Korea only, if I remember tomorrow I’ll try and find it.

          I lie, it wasn’t on charts, didn’t have a MV idt.

        • I give up easily, lol. It’s a side effect of spending a dozen years as a Jpop fan when Japanese copyright law is so damned strict. Korea is prone to it too. Like I am still waiting for my GD stickers on Line… 4 days after their “Worldwide release” … Gotta get on my knees and beg YG to take my damned money.

          Will have to see if I can find the info again.

        • Wae can I only Upvote you once????? Still blows me away.

          Thank You!

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Yup no problem, Well… minimal problem lol. :P

          You ever hear Better Than Yesterday w/ him? It’s a pretty old and long song w/ a bunch of ppl in it but Outsider’s part is RIDICULOUS. And the Rocky background music makes it that much better.

        • Nooooooooo. will have to look it up. I am pretty bad with featurings. I had to make a playlist with all Big Bangs featurings and I hadn’t heard of half of them.. *shame*

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic


          Just wonderin, why no Acquaintance on ur list?

        • That is wicked! Thanks again!

          With Acquaintance, I try really really really hard to be fair and only go with one song per artist. Otherwise my top favourites would just be stacked with the same couple of artists. So it really is just a list of my favourite song per artists in order. Like my 2012 selections, I couldn’t split my top 3. They are listed in that order based on Bias followed by fairness. Bias is big bang so Monster gets #1.. But Tried To Walk and That XX are as equally eligible for #1 as far as I am concerned.

          And in the end the hook in Hero is awesome enough to just edge it over acquaintance as my favourite Outsider of the year.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Meh I’m fine w/ having a couple songs by an artist. Three is overkill imo tho. In my 2010 list I have two songs from two artists. (Real list would be two songs from four artists.)
          My 2012 list had two songs from SISTAR too.

        • I already cop a lot for being YG bias. LOL. For the record, for US music I am Universal Bias and in Japan I am EMI Bias… Because the majority of the artists I like in those areas come from that label.. Which is just designed to point out how hilariously silly the whole deal is.

          But because these silly biases exist in Kpop.. Siiiiiiigh. I even try to be careful to make sure I am not including every song I liked that was YG released. ‘-_-

          The woes if attempting to be taken seriously on the internets.

          Although, I make no attempt in 2009. None at all. The only albums from 09 I liked were Heartbreaker, Maestro, Hexagonal and (e). I still cannot get all the thing with Mirotic. Usually a huge song, even if I don’t like it, I can understand why it is big. Gee I get. Not a fan but I get… But Mirotic – nuh.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Well my quick google search on my phone came up w/ nothing helpful.

          Might have to search that Outsider site but it’ll take awhile.

  20. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    I’m liking this song a lil too much right now…

    • aaaand it begins -.-; “This video contains content from UMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
      UMG making our lives (my life) harder.

      Is this their latest Japanese release?

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        Yeah it’s been blocked elsewhere but this was still up when I found it lol.

        I watched a review and the reviewer usually does a quick sample of the songs and stuff and for the most part the review was silent, was kind of awkward and less entertaining.

        Edit: Do you want to listen to it? I can upload it to our channel as a private vid like I did for Good Morning by Verbal Jint since that’s blocked too.

        • I found a version where someone had spliced together 4 for their live performances and watched some of that. Oh and I watched a BTS video where they played a bit of the song while they spoke in Japanese.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          I’ll just upload it if u want to hear it in its full 4 and a half minute glory. Not much work to do so.

  21. lumierenoire

    Guys, I have a question. For the 2010 videos, is it alright to include a song that was created in 2010, but has its music video in 2011?

  22. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    You all realize Dancing King is going to be my #1 video for our 2012 Video list, right? lol I’m dead serious.
    Lipstick, Gangnam Style, OMG, and I Want to Live w/ Her will be the rest of my list lol.

    Wait… we dropping honorables for Dance and Video lists?

  23. fuuko4869

    So I was looking through 2009 videos, including 2NE1’s Fire, and apparently GD makes an appearance in it!! lol I’m amazed people actually noticed

  24. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    “wooooooow. so much grumpiness in the comments here. COOL YOUR JETS PEOPLE! it’s SIMON AND MARTINA’S blog and SIMON AND MARTINA will decide what to do with it. if they want to do nothing but review YG, SHINee and Infinite songs for the rest of their career so be it. because it’s SIMON AND MARTINA’S blog and SIMON AND MARTINA will decide. what. to. do. with. it. if you don’t like the reviews they put up GO MAKE YOUR OWN REVIEWS! THAT’S WHAT THE INTERNET IS FOR!and before people get all upset about how unfair anything is or how your favorite band never gets reviewed, i believe my top favorite artists have a whopping ONE SINGLE REVIEW BETWEEN THE FOUR OF THEM! if we ever get to see No MInwoo, Kim Jongkook, Davichi or 2BiC reviews on EYK i would just die of happiness, but until then i’m going to enjoy what EYK makes even if i don’t particularly care for the band or song. why? because i’m a Nasty, and we Nasties are here because we love EYK and we love what they do, plain and simple.”

    Holy crap this comment ticked me off. Must. Fight. Urge!

    • unicornsgalaxy

      I think people (S&M too) are missing the point of why people are disappointed and upset. It’s not that Girls Day or HYS wasn’t picked. It’s because they picked someone whose video was just released and who could very easily stay on the in the top 3 (if not top 1) position for another week. I also felt this way when Lee Hi was picked last time over Ukiss but there UKiss could also very easily stay in the top 3 (and top 1) for another week so it wasn’t that big of a deal.

      It’s not really about who was picked over who, but more that S&M didn’t seem to take into account anything other than “Oh, look it’s a new video, it’s Lee Hi, EVERYONE likes Lee Hi, Lots of people are going to watch it, etc”. If they would have LOVED the song and the video so much that they were absolutely gushing about it, I would understand. But, the review didn’t give that impression. The impression that I got from the review was, “The song was pretty but not outstanding and the video was pretty and artsy”.

      I was hoping that S&M would read through the comments and see the underlying issue other than people were upset because they didn’t pick “oppa” or “eonnie”. From their one comment about us being disappointed, It feels like they missed the point totally.

      • Fuuko said she passed the info about the underlying issue on to them already. :) Also, since you had mentioned that one comment, which happens to be the only comment on that thread in which they addressed the disappointment issue, I was curious about what time they had written it. Turns out that it was the first comment they wrote on that thread after they came back to read over comments again. Assuming they were sorting by Best, then they only saw the top couple comments (one of them being about Rose Crusher) before they wrote that one. Maybe by the time they had gone through all the comments, their grasp of the situation was better than it seems from that initial comment. At least I hope so.

      • Agreed. I did reply to their one comment where they mentioned how whomever they pick, they always get entire Tumblr pages dedicated to complaining about their choice. But this is different. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the majority of comments on their blog expressing disappointment. And that disappointment is with their choice (not them) because it doesn’t fit with the reasons they stated for changing the voting system. (Also, no one is hating on Lee Hi herself, which some defenders seem to think is the case.) There are always a couple comments saying “Y U no pick my Oppa/Unni?!” among the blog comments after a KMM, but nothing like this. This is completely different from the usual Tumblr rants too.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Send fuuko on them! Yeah if they didn’t understand our point then I don’t think they tried very hard to understand because it was stated clearly, multiple times.

        • fuuko4869

          I have. Rest assured.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Seriously, now ur being dramatic and going overboard.

        • That’s really comforting to hear. :)

          Hey, I’m still really curious about whether Lee Hi or HYS was #1 at midnight. lol, I’m starting to feel like I was in some delusional dream state along with everyone else ’cause we saw HYS but S&M’s one comment mentioned “the first place Lee Hi.” XD Were you by any chance watching the mod page at that time? Are we all confused b/c it updated faster than the website page? I’m so curious, yeah~! ^_^;

        • fuuko4869

          Btw….when i asked them why, they said it was cos they and practically everyone around the loved the song ^^;

        • I knew it!

        • fuuko4869

          I have no idea; i don’t usually check unless s&m want to sleep early (ie. Jetlag). Plus i had a 5am easter service the next morning, so i went to bed early that night. :(
          It would make sense if Lee Hi overtook hys though, it was pretty close last time i saw. I just didn’t think it mattered since I was so sure they’d pick hys/ g’d.

        • I am going to assume that their mentioning of First Place Lee Hi means thats where she was. We know the chart page doesn’t update quickly and I think Natz also mentioned Lee Hi taking #1 on the Chart Page not long after midnight. If that is where she was then I am not going to gripe. I understand people are disappointed and if S&M outright chose Lee Hi over a song that was voted to number 1 when she had been reviewed recently, then I would be right there with you. But I also don’t think they should be abusing their new rule because that will cause more grief than following the chart will.

          That is my position anyway.

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        Yup pretty much, all the mindless defending probably didn’t help either.

        Edit: We need to get fuuko to tell them what’s up! :P
        No, seriously…

    • fuuko4869

      Yea I saw that too. Ah well.

    • fuuko4869

      lol yea that was from Night after Night? Or Day and Night? Something like that? SOOOOO glad they didn’t go with Mark. apparently it was YG’s favourite guitarist or something xD

      Mark just reminds me of that guy from Westlife.

      • Yeah, it was Night After Night. Mark would have been such a bad choice. I have an uncle and a cousin named Mark; I soooo do not associate that name with anything cool. XD (They’re very nice relatives, though.)
        And Big Castle for Daesung? *facepalm*
        Or how about DBSK’s Internal Organs? “Hello, we are Five Internal Organs!” bwahaha How did SMEnt go from considering Internal Organs to Gods of the East?

        The top comment on the article, with 3,015 upvotes: “Well, let’s just have a moment of silence to thank the agencies for not going through with those names.” You said it.

        I just remembered that AKP has been listed as an attack site lately (HA!), so I’m copying the article here.

        The Wonder Girls all originally were named ‘L.C‘, which stood for ‘Ladies Club‘. Sun was named ‘Sunny’, Sohee was named ‘IC’, and Yenny was named ‘Silver’. When HyunA was preparing for the group, she was named ‘Mint’, and inactive member Mimi was named ‘Berry’.

        Before Big Bang was Big Bang, they were named ‘Diamond‘. T.O.P was named ‘Mark’, Daesung was named ‘Big Castle’, Seungri was named ‘Sonic’, and Taeyang was named ‘Taekwon’.

        TVXQ was named ‘O Jang Yook Boo‘, which is a phrase meant to signify all the internal organs in the body. Super Junior‘s Leeteuk was named ‘Kangsoo’, Shindong was named ‘Woodong’, Kangin was named ‘Woongdam’, and Kyuhyun was named ‘Kwihyun’.

    • lumierenoire

      Mark. . . (」゚ペ)」

  25. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Soo now I feel like doing another indie request… But what to request, Tears by LeeSSang because it somehow nvr got mentioned on a chart update even though it was top 10 for a couple weeks? Or Rhythm is Life by Gaeko because it didn’t get jack squat bo diddly for points when it appeared?
    OR be annoying and make them decide again… (Which I don’t think they’ll appreciate my indecisiveness a 2nd time around.)


  26. unicornsgalaxy

    SO April fools day has become the day that keeps on giving! LOL. DKpopnews.net keeps reporting some of the false “news” than Shinhwa Changjo sites put out as April Fools Day jokes. LOL

  27. Aw, isn’t this nice? Eric Nam encouraged people to vote for him and for his B2M sunbae, HYS.

  28. lumierenoire

    Hmmm when should the 2010 videos be chosen by? Participating in these are fun, but I’m not sure if I have enough time to choose. XD Curse you school!!

  29. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    woah! Woah! WOAH!
    So I watched the board game vid as was like “Who’s this other dude?” lol.
    Then I just watched the indie where he requested and was like “Hey! It’s that dude!”.
    Then I look at his YouTube and I’m like “I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that pic comment on EYK a few times”.

    Soooo who is this dude? Is he just some random Nasty that got to join them on their vid? Or did they like already know him or something? Idk I’m completely confused right now lol.

    • Yeah pretty much what Fuuko said… I was a fan of theirs years ago but more for how-to stuff because I really wanted to travel here. Once I moved here I really got into their other videos on music and right then is when they started their Indie segment. I got really into the indie scene as I started going to concerts every weekend. One night I met them randomly on the street in Hongdae and they remembered me from my request video and chatted on and off since then seeing we had a lot in common and… now we’re friends. The rest is history. EYK 4 LIFE yo

    • fuuko4869

      It’s Ryan, the indie guy :p He’s been a Nasty for ages, was one of the first Indie requesters ever (EVERYBODY WANTS TECHNO SHOES!!), has requested indie songs about 5 times now, he lives in Seoul, he’s gone to indie shows with S&M a lot, he also helped take the polaroid photos for EYK’s fundraiser packages, he’s one of the 5 people I follow on Disqus, umm what else…..I guess you could say he started off a Nasty, and then became friends with S&M ^^b

      One of my life goals is to go to Club FF with him sometime. Hahaha :p

      • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

        5 TIMES!?! Psh I wish I’d of known that, I wanted to request Gaeko’s Rhythm is Life or LeeSSang’s Tears but didn’t think I could do it twice.

        Hmmm that’s pretty cool I guess.

        • fuuko4869

          Haha yeah, I’ve also requested Indie songs quite a few times, but mainly back in the day when we could just email them with suggestions, like this one http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/k-crunch-indie-enough-exercise-love/

          You can see 3 of Ryan’s request videos, but he has some older ones that are unlisted. Here’s his first ever request, which you should totally check out because EVERYBODY WANTS TECHNO SHOOOOOOOZZZ

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Wow…. What in the world did I just listen to?

        • The best song ever THAT’S WHAT haha

        • fuuko4869

          Omg Ryan. Are you stalking us? Gaaaah I just got caught talking about you behind your back

          *RUNS IN SHAME*

        • Who’s stalking who? Haha jk. You know… this IS an open forum you know. Not like I can’t see any post or anything. Also you are pretty much the only one I follow on Disq so I found out about this thread. Gotta say though, some of you here on this page are pretty…. well, all I can say is.. intense, dare I say… quite hurtful. To each their own I guess. When you coming to Korea already?

        • unicornsgalaxy

          I don’t think we’ve really said anything hurtful. If you are talking about our criticism, it’s just that we love the site and we want to help Simon and Martina make it the best that they can. They might not always see the little things that could possibly cause problems because they are the ones that are producing everything, thus are too close to it. If there are areas that we see that can cause a problem (and are not just fans being unreasonable because “oppa” or “unnie” were insulted) that perhaps Simon and Martina may not see or dismiss as just unreasonable fan tantrums, why shouldn’t we try to point it out to them so they can possible take action to not make the same mistake.

          Maybe it’s because we feel we have done quite a bit to try to help Simon and Martina on this site, whether it has been helping with the EYK Award nominations to trying to help the mods “police” the charts, that we feel we can try to help Simon and Martina and give advice from the outlook of not only EYK fans but fans of Kpop in general.

          I don’t think we have ever said any hateful things about Simon and Martina here. We have all kept our comments concerning S&M polite and respectful with the thought in mind that we want to try to help point out what they may or may not be able to do in order to limit the amount of “hate” they see at times.

        • fuuko4869

          Unicorn….can we drop this subject? Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? *exasperated*

        • unicornsgalaxy

          Really? You felt the need to give me a separate reply? Like I don’t diqus stalk your every move? LOL.

          I just didn’t like that he called us hurtful when all we’ve tried to do is help. That’s just me though. And I wasn’t going to reply to him again.

        • please dont get me wrong. I was never calling Nasties as a whole hurtful people… just some of the posters. I got nothing but love for fellow Naties

        • “Gotta say though, some of you here on this page are pretty…. well, all I can say is.. intense, dare I say… quite hurtful.

          Sounds to me like you were calling us in particular “hurtful people.” All of us regulars on this page have been commenting here for months and I can assure you that there is not a single person among us who wishes to be hurtful toward S&M or who doesn’t like EYK. You happened to drop in here during the first time that I can remember the majority of us ever being disappointed in a choice S&M made. I have to say that I find it quite offensive of you to come in here and pass judgment on us based on a few comments made during a tumultuous period.

          Also, I feel compelled to point out that I don’t think you are the best judge of what is constructive criticism and what is hurtful. You’re too close to S&M and for that I have to question your objectivity. As you said yourself, they have become your friends, not just the YouTubers you subscribe too.

        • Fair enough

        • I would like to add that it sucks that our first interaction with each other turned out this way. When I checked the page earlier today and saw your first post up toward the top, my initial thought was “Oh, it’s the guy who makes all the indie requests. He seems pretty cool. Maybe he’s going to start hanging around here and inject some good Korean indie conversations into the thread.” Unfortunately, the next thing I saw was your comment calling the people on this thread hurtful, which had poor Unicorn near tears all day. Unicorn is a very sweet and nice person who is as likely to say something with hurtful intentions as oh, I don’t know, the Easter Bunny. But then you wouldn’t know that, would you, since you made a snap judgment about people based on a few comments. *cough* Okay, enough about that. I wanted to say that it’s not like I’m going to hold a grudge against you or anything melodramatic like that. I was just defending our page, which actually is full of nice Nasties who chat about random kpop/kdrama things and who have fun making kpop related videos for our channel. *extends olive branch*

        • Im sorry, still feel like you’re twisting my words a bit considering I never targeted EVERYONE on this page. it was just some comments in general I felt at the time seemed hurtful to me considering I knew personally how it hurt S&M. you cant tell me my opinion that I felt at the time was wrong… its a personal observation/opinion, not yours or anyone elses. welcome to the internet where people are misinterpreted and misrepresented all the time.

          on another note I feel you are making remarks towards me in a sugar-coated way but with negative connotations and I really dont appreciate that. for example making me out to be a bully towards Unicorn or making an obvious crossed-out remark that you “take back” but still want everyone to see. not once have i been malicious or rude in my opinion but I know that none of you will see it the way i see it because you are a tight knit clique and im just an outsider who doesnt seem to have an opinion because I havent been active on this particular page.

          I dont really see myself posting much on here not because i dont like you buys but because I dont like K-Pop and that seems to be the vast majority of the conversation here. so dont worry, continue on. olive branch genuinly appreciated.

          EYK 4 LIFE

        • I know you said “some of you here on this page” are “quite hurtful” because of their comments regarding the latest KMM choice. Those comments were made by Unicorn, myself, Jamie, and a handful of others further back in the thread. How can you then fault me for calling you out on making Unicorn feel bad when she was one of those people who made those comments that you consider hurtful? If you did not in fact consider Unicorn’s comments hurtful, then you should have made that clear when she was responding to you about how upset she felt that you thought her comments were hurtful.

          I am definitely not trying to tell you that reading those criticisms on the KMM page didn’t hurt S&M. I’m trying to say that they (and the ones made on this page) were not made with hurtful intentions. Yes, criticism can hurt. And yes, since you are their friend, I believe you when you say that those observations hurt S&M. I’m not telling you that your opinion is wrong in that case. I’m telling you that you are completely wrong when it comes to the intention and character of the people who wrote those comments. You called us hurtful people. That is completely different from saying that our comments about this issue were hurtful toward S&M. That is an opinion that I don’t care if you have or not. But you have absolutely no basis to come in here and insult whoever it was you meant by calling them a hurtful person, with no knowledge or past interaction with them. Don’t you see the difference?

          So in that respect, you have been very rude in your opinion. You walked in here and called “some” of us hurtful people without even knowing us. If your opinion had been restricted to our comments, then I would just say “We don’t see eye to eye on matter, oh well.” Also, you even implied to Fuuko that we were bad company (“to each his own I guess” were the words you used, I believe) based on a snapshot of our page over the course of a few hours. How is that not rude?

          As for my crossed out section, I left it in, but crossed out, because I wanted you to understand that even though I was offering you an olive branch and calling it a truce, I still was not condoning your snap judgement of “some” people on this thread. This is far down on the thread now. It was written for nobody’s benefit but your own. The part about Unicorn was also necessary; your comment referring to hurtful people (which of course she assumed meant her since she was one of the people making those comments that you disapproved of) did have her near tears all day. You should be made aware of how your dismissal of certain people on this page as hurtful affected them.

          To end this, all I can say is that I truly do hope that you can see the difference between calling us hurtful people and calling some of our comments hurtful.

        • unicornsgalaxy

          Actually, the only thing I took exception to was that you made it seem like the handful of people on this particular page were hurtful. I agree that some Nasties can be extremely hurtful and they can cross the line and can get upset over the silliest (imo) things.

          The few of us on that hijacked this page are not like that. We have given our opinion and sometimes criticism about something S&M may have said or if we see a lot of negativity towards S&M, we may try to see if it was warranted or just fans getting upset of something trivial. If it’s warranted or happens enough we try to see if there is something we could suggest to S&M that will help in the future.

          So I guess it was more that I got upset that you thought that we on this particular page (Epik Nasties as we like to call ourselves…by the way, you should TOTALLY check out our youtube channel and watch our videos LOL…but no seriously you should. http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0JnHuKL5XNoQh6sYFbGGFQ ) were hurtful when we have tried to cheer S&M on while also trying to give suggestions on what they could do to minimize the amount of hate tumblr posts they get.

        • fuuko4869

          Sorry Ryan. I guess this page is to leave a negative impression on you once again…. I’ll see you on the next indie vid. *waves wet hanky*

        • I don’t think he’s any great loss if he’s going to judge us negatively based on a few comments that he’s too close to S&M to see are constructive criticism.

          So we’re not “really the sweetest of pages” are we? Just because the majority of us for once agreed that we didn’t understand a choice S&M made and were vocal in expressing our confusion? Bollocks.

          We’ve occasionally had some internal kerfuffles, but we’ve always worked it out. Those have been short blips; what about the rest of the time, all those other months that we have been chatting here quite amiably? I’m sad that you would disparage our page (and therefore us) just to try to placate Ryan.

        • fuuko4869

          Ah, so it’s come down to this, has it.

          Funny story, just the other day my dad shared something from a book by Dale Carnegie, the writer of the first self-help book ever. Hold on; google:
          “Criticism is futile because it puts a person on the defensive and usually makes him strive to justify himself. Criticism is dangerous, because it wounds a person’s precious pride, hurts his sense of importance, and arouses resentment.”

          Now, I disagreed. I agreed it was dangerous, but I felt that it was possible for people to take a step back, accept the criticism, and try to change for the better. That was why I encouraged you guys to send in suggestions for S&M.

          But unfortunately, it appears Mr. Carnegie has the last laugh. Case in point:

          1. Nasties (okay, straight to it, Epik Nasties) criticised S&M for being inconsistent (among other things). It’s because ‘we love the site’ and ‘we’re trying to help S&M’ (I don’t like using quotes, but well, since you started……). I tried to support this criticism. But what did S&M do? They became defensive and hurt.

          2. Ryan criticised Epik Nasties for being hurtful (because criticism –> S&M getting hurt). Keeping in mind that he ‘has nothing but love for fellow Nasties’. I tried to support this criticism. But what did Epik Nasties do? We became defensive and hurt.

          3. Now Epik Nasties criticising Ryan for being judgemental and subjective, and me for being…hold on….disparaging and placating. (I’ll assume that you’re doing this out of love for me, not sure about Ryan though) So, I’ll support this criticism once again. Ryan hasn’t commented with us very long, I suppose it’s a bit out of place for one of his first comments to be how hurtful we are. As for me, as an Epik Nasty (and thus the object of his criticism), I should have become defensive, and tried to justify ourselves. Instead I agreed with him, which appears to be a betrayal of the community on this page.
          Now the question is, will Ryan and I decide to accept your criticism, or should I feel hurt and try to justify myself?

          From my experiment this last week, it seems that by accepting everyone’s criticism, I’ve shot myself in the foot. So I think I can safely conclude that as far as the people on this website are concerned, Dale Carnegie’s words ring true once again.

          I’ll try a new approach, and that which is disapproving of criticism on this page, no matter how constructive it might be. But I’ll need to try that after I finish my assignments *sigh*

          Btw, I love S&M, I love Ryan (in the friendly kind of way), and I love you Epik Nasties, from the bottom of my heart. Heck, I even like Jamie. But somehow I’ve now left the impression that I hate everybody. Woe is me. :(

        • unicornsgalaxy

          Sometimes in life, you have to ask yourself if it’s worth making a reply. I believe that this is one of those times when it isn’t. Emotions are running high and strong and something is bound to be said that will never be able to be taken back.

          …although I realize that this is in fact a reply…does a reply saying you aren’t going to reply count as an actual reply?

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          THANK YOU!
          I disagree with him and my comments get deleted, and yet his get to stay.
          She pretty much threw us all under the bus and even the ppl on Rose to an extent, just to agree with/impress Ryan. But I didn’t dare say anything more because she was already being dramatic and deleting a bunch of my comments.

          So I just said screw it. Like random comments in here from quite awile ago were deleted, idt anybody else’s were. It’s like she was trying to hide my old comments from Ryan and punish me for disagreeing w/ him. I wasn’t even very rude, def no more than he was. You can’t be inviting everybody to our page and then not letting us say what we want to anymore because of it.

        • unicornsgalaxy

          Jas! Can I just say I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU!!! Seriously, this has had me down all day today to the point that I couldn’t even look at my disqus page without almost bursting out in tears. I didn’t want to say anything because I thought that it was just me being emotional and too sensitive. I’m glad that you said everything that I was thinking.

        • *HUGS*

        • unicornsgalaxy

          *clings tightly* Thanks. I needed that.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          “Once AGAIN”?

        • fuuko4869


        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Unless he’s on the page he won’t even see my part.
          When was the other time?

          Edit: You and Natz butted into my comment and together turned it into a joke so I really don’t care if I ruined ur farewell by asking a simple question.

        • fuuko4869

          I understand. It’s breaking my heart, tbh, seeing so much friction between S&M, whom I love, and the blog Nasties, all of whom I’ve been watching for months/years, and know by name. I’ve tried my best to act like a middle man, failed miserably, and I’m reaching my limit. It’s just gone on for too long :(

        • Im not going to get too into it really but I feel from some of what ive read on this thread and and the thread on the last KMM there was a bit too much harsh critisism and hardly enough “constructive” kind. I saw waaaay more complaints about the choice of video (which should never be attacked in my opinion no matter WHAT video you want to be reviewed). What should have been commented on is the video itself and THATS IT. whats done is done and by throwing comments on what they did wrong isnt helping anyone. thats as far into it as i choose to get.

        • The reason their choice was questioned by so many this time (NOT by just fans of HYS or Girl’s Day) is because it contradicts the reasons that they themselves stated for changing the voting system. In my opinion, this was indeed a choice to be questioned, not “attacked” as you called it, but questioned. If people had only commented on the video itself as you suggest, then S&M would have no idea how much controversy their choice created. That may have spared them having to read the recent disappointed KMM comments, but it is those comments that will help inform them in the future, hopefully avoiding another situation like this one. You are right that what’s done is done, but that only applies to what happened in this past week’s KMM, not any of the future ones.

          I think you’re missing the point about people questioning their choice. Most people aren’t saying, “You should have reviewed Girl’s Day/HYS because they’re the best and unnie/oppa deserves it!” People are saying, “Why wasn’t Girl’s Day or HYS reviewed?” They’re asking this because choosing Lee Hi in those circumstances doesn’t make sense in light of S&M’s own stated objectives for changing the voting system. I don’t see angry fans of HYS/Girl’s Day in those comments, I see confused, average Nasties who for the most part have been remarkably polite and have expressed their disappointment without any hating or bashing of S&M.

          EDIT: Oh, and Fuuko, not to worry; this is the last I’ll say on this subject. I’d rather have it dropped, but I couldn’t not respond to Ryan’s comment.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Yes it is, for future reference so they don’t do the same thing and can avoid the same type of reaction from happening again. We know nothing can be done about last week but we are showing WHY we are mad. It’s not the typical “Why didn’t u chose my favorite group!”. It was as much as could have went wrong and if that somehow happens again they should be able to know what to do to get minimal backlash.

          Ok I’m done I promise.

        • you cannot speak for every comment that was put out there (let alone the ones the mods had to delete). Besides none of this is reason enough to get “mad” over. Getting mad is never constructive.

        • fuuko4869

          Thank you for raising that point. I find it amusing how fans always claim how nice they are, after we delete all the trollish comments. But I let them think that way, because if they think they’re a nice fandom, they’re more likely to be nice, don’t you think? :p

          That said, the things said on the blog this time round aren’t too bad. Nasties only dare to complain to S&M’s face if it’s about something small. If they’re really upset, they’ll post a rant in the safety of tumblr. Have you seen tumblr? It’s a gold mine of F bombs (so….landmine? :p)
          That’s the main reason why I don’t mind this week’s complaints. That’s not to say I don’t get hurt; but I have S&M so we can virtually hug while we cry ourselves to sleep.

          …this page is a bit different though. I don’t delete stuff.

          Btw, didn’t realise you were still following me o_O I can only see half my followers on my dash….oh dear. All this time so many people saw my stupid comments T_T

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          And you can’t speak for us. So… yeah.

        • the major difference between your posts and mine on this subject is that i state this is my feeling… you seem to state it as FACT. I said or implied that I was speaking for anyone, I only stated what I felt thatI obseved from my perspective. So… yeah.

        • fuuko4869

          Oh boy. Alright before all hell breaks loose, can I please tell everybody this:

          I’ve already emailed Simon about this. They know how people feel. But what’s done is done, so we’ve discussed it and moved on.

          And I would strongly recommend everyone else to do the same.

          Thank you.

        • fuuko4869

          No, you are right, this isn’t really the sweetest of pages. I think we often forget how public this is, and get carried away ^^;
          I actually try not to police comments on hijacked pages (here’s another one http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/kpop-awards/bap-warrior/ ), so admittedly there tends to be a lot of things said here that wouldn’t usually be posted elsewhere.
          Feel free to reprimand them though. Especially if it’s NANAandLIZZYfanatic. He has no respect for us mods :p

          Korea! I don’t know; mainly because I don’t have any close friends there (and thus no free accommodation). I should start asking around. Maybe if EYK will let me sleep in the hall……..

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Ummmm “forget how public it is”. You invite everybody lol.

          Yeah I’m just gonna leave my reply at that…

  30. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    My Top 5 songs from March. The all female list! Odd…

  31. unicornsgalaxy

    I’m FINALLY caught up with the 2013 songs in the playlist!!! T_T *throws confetti and does happy dance*. Now just need to get caught up with the handful that are on the charts but haven’t been added to the playlist yet!

  32. Why did I not know about this song before? 0.o I just randomly clicked on it while listening to 2010 songs because G.O is the singer, but I am loving this song! Like, really loving it. To the point where I’m hunting around to buy it after just one listen. I almost never want to buy a song immediately after just one listen. *adds to list of 2010 songs*


    • fuuko4869

      All the non human bits are cool :p

      And the song is indeed catchy, especially the o-iwi-o bit

      • Ouch! Poor guys, to be deemed not as interesting as a dog or a light bulb. :P

        I woke up singing the o-iwi-o bit. I love that kind of spacey electronic “ooo waa woo” sound in the background (I really can’t transcribe it better than that XD). Alas, I can’t find the song on iTunes; I even checked both Korea and Japan’s iTunes. I found a link for buying it off Bugs, but I’d have to go through the hassle of creating an account. If people outside of Korea can even make an account with them. :/

        • fuuko4869

          Well……you could always….y’know….

        • I know, that’s what I’m going to do because I don’t really have a choice. lol This is like trying to actually buy Infinite songs: I want to give you money but how can I if you don’t make them available? If S&M ever interview Infinite, I’m going to try to get S&M to tell Infinite to tell Woollim to put their stuff (all their stuff) on iTunes.

  33. lumierenoire

    On a totally off topic note, do you guys have problems loading more comments on your disqus dashboards? I’ve been having that problem for the longest time and was wondering if any of you know how to fix it..?

    • I have comments go missing. I can load more, but after at a certain comment it truncates the thread and I cannot see replies – including my own. Ebil Disqus.

    • iloveminhyun

      Do you use Windows or Mac? And what browser?

      It’s happened to me before, so I might be of assistance :)

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      Nope I have it happen all the time. (More-so on my phone than computer though.)

      Recently I’ve been having the problem w/ the newest comments appearing again…

    • You mean when you are on your dashboard and you scroll down til you can’t see anymore recent comments and you click the “load more comments” button? If so, yeah, I’ve been having the same problem. Sometimes more will load and sometimes they won’t.

      • lumierenoire

        Precisely, except it happens almost every time, so I have to end up refreshing. I can probably press it once or twice before it stops loading so I can’t see anything past that usually…

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Yeah earlier today I was lucky to get it to load more once, and one time I got it to load two but I couldn’t go any farther.

  34. NANAandLIZZYfanatic

    Welp… There went Girl’s Day.
    Eric Nam already passed them…

  35. I found this video and couldn’t stop laughing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wswu9hUTVy0

  36. fuuko4869

    Remember that problematic comment on UKiss’ page that I asked you whether I should delete or not?

    The poster of that comment is back and wreaking havoc in the KMM page. Natz, I leave her to you (=_=)>

    • Alas, I just saw this. I went back to work and it is a bit busy. Yep. She needs to have all that crap deleted. Did you do it already?

    • unicornsgalaxy

      I’ve been watching her try to cause trouble all night. I decided after my last reply to her to totally ignore her cause she isn’t on here trying to help or defend S&M, she’s just trying to rile people up and get people upset.

      • I don’t think anyone has caused more disruption on that thread than her. Everything she writes is just… rgio;rno48htbkj!

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          I’m at two people I couldn’t resist going off on now lol, but somehow she hasn’t been one yet. Her comments are stupid and I downvoted them but I didn’t see anything that left her too open for me to insert myself and call her out w/o making myself look like too much of a douche. I think unicorn kind of took care of that for me though lol.

        • Thank god for Unicorn! I saw the people you ran into, but that one girl takes the cake because she’s butting in everywhere.

          @unicornsgalaxy:disqus I think you responded perfectly. lol How you must have been keeping your temper in check…

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          I told some1 to shutup and I told some1 else to grow up and called them ignorant. lol Only today w/ the circumstances and w/ the comments that were made in the first place would that be a comment that get a vast majority of upvotes compared to downvotes lol.

        • I may or may not have been one of those upvoters… *shifty eyes*
          Just for today, mind you. These were special circumstances and the comments you replied to actually were ignorant and childish.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          lol I normally keep my displeasure here and I actually did to start this time too but then I just couldn’t resist and luckily I saw others felt the same way.

          (Still wondering how I have so many upvotes on my original comment in here…)

        • unicornsgalaxy

          you have no idea! I wanted to blast away at her and half the stuff I wanted to type would have probably gotten me banned! XD

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          C’mon now you shoulda went all out!

        • I could tell! XD It sounded like you were writing with your teeth clenched! Truly, I enjoyed reading your set down very much.

        • unicornsgalaxy

          I have a way with bolding. :D LMAO! As much fun as it has been to see what stupidity she will write next, I’m off for bed!

        • Okay, just so you know, I was mentally cheering while reading your response. :D Good night!

        • unicornsgalaxy

          Why thank you. :) It looked like other people enjoyed it too. LOL

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          I’ve typed like five different replies to this chick in different places but I end up deleting them instead of posting.

          I’m trying to stay on the edge and not cross over into bashing, but I really want to and she really deserves it lol.

          Her comments are just SOOO unintelligent lol.

        • fuuko4869

          Sorry but I deleted your replies. ‘imbecile’? Really Jamie?
          I’d like to delete all her comments too, but I’ll let Natz do the judgement call on that.

          Edit: Actually I’ll clean up the whole page after this breast cancer lecture.

          fyi, what you’re doing is called ‘feeding the troll’ you know that yea?

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Psh delete her replies instead of mine, she’s doing nothing but provoking everyone in every single one of her comments. If you’ve had problems w/ her before then why is she not blocked…

        • fuuko4869

          Because last time I asked you guys for advice, everyone was like ‘it’s ok, she can state her opinion if she likes’ etc ._.

          I’ll clean it all up later, once I get home.

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          “I” definitely was not one of those people. I got upset by that whole convo. (Part of my week leading up to rant.)

        • unicornsgalaxy

          what? You know I don’t like people trying to tell me what I do or don’t like. I wasn’t going to let her sit there and try to tell me I’m biased and am just upset because my “Oppa” didn’t get a review. I didn’t even know who he was until I watched the video!

        • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

          Yeah I thought it was pretty funny how she worded everything like she was talking about you specifically and not the majority.

    • NANAandLIZZYfanatic

      The Lee Hi fanatic?!

  37. iloveminhyun

    Okay. Did any of you try Google Nose? If you haven’t please do before it goes away. https://www.google.com.qa/intl/en/landing/nose/