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Ok, so this week’s question is a really interesting one. We’re asked about Korea’s idea of modesty in clothing. Is showing cleavage taboo? How short can short shorts go? What can you show, and what can’t you show?

It took us a while to get used to Korea’s version of what seems to be appropriate and inappropriate in clothing. We hear about Korea being very conservative a lot of the time. Kpop songs are banned for saying bad things, like GD & TOP’s “Knock Out,” or for being too sexy as in Sistar’s “How Dare You.” In the case of GD&TOP, we were really confused, because we didn’t understand what’s so bad about what they’re saying. Maybe because we’re North American and we’ve seen a lot worse? Which is why in the case of Sistar’s “30 second stripped pole” appearance, we were also shocked. Sure, it’s not the best material to show young kids, but ban-worthy?

Live performances of Kpop songs supposedly have very strict regulations as to how much flesh you can show on stage, which also kind of makes us laugh, not because the ideas of modesty are laughable, but because we’re so overexposed to improprieties now that what we see in Kpop performances seems tame. It does seem interesting, however, to note that kpop males groups can easily get away with showing their stomachs in a performance as well as dance around shirtless with open dress jackets, or even take pictures while underage in their underwear and…heels…*coughteentopcough*. Yet female groups can get in big trouble for showing their mid-drift…but only sometimes, like in the case of Rainbow’s “A” which was forced to change their dance for being inappropriate, yet Hyuna’s “Bubble Pop” dance and Rania’s “Dr.Feel Good” was aired with no problems. We’re not saying that these two songs should be banned as well, but it seems to us that the criteria for the Korean censorship board is a little confusing to understand.

Which is why we were so shocked, and continue to be shocked, by Korean mini-skirts. Holy crap Batman! Korean skirts are shoooooort. SHOOORT! Like, wow short. Aren’t legs considered to be sexy? We’re amazed at how short the dresses and shorts and skirts are here. Martina goes shopping for clothing and finds skirts that see thinks are belts. Or maybe we’ve been out of Canada for too many years now, but we’re sure for sure for sure that when we were in Toronto last summer we didn’t see anything as short as what we’re seeing here. It’s like, the dresses go up as much as comfortably possible, juuuust before unmentionables can be seen, and there have been times here in which we’ve seen more than we’d have like to have seen.

Korean Miniskirts

Korean Miniskirts - Worn Year Round

Also, we have to add that miniskirts are worn year round. DON’T DENY THIS! We’ve seen girls in freezing winter with mini-skirts and high heels on, and that completely blows our minds. Sure, they’re not as common in the winter as they are in the summer, but – we swear – we have no clue how people aren’t fully bundled up in the winters here, which are belligerently cold! And we’re saying this as Canadians…from Canadia! We don’t know how Korean people do it: they don’t seem to sweat as much as we do in the summer or shiver as much in the winter. It’s…amazing.

Let’s add to this by saying that not everybody dresses this way, so don’t get the idea that Korea’s a mini-skirt paradise with hot girls walking around everywhere showing off their long legs in high heels. All we’re saying is that we’re surprised at how shorter short skirts considering how modest they are regarding many other things.

And on that note, tops are muuuuch more conservative here. Much more. There aren’t a lot of low cut tops and not a lot of cleavage being shown. Bare shoulders aren’t seen often (but it’s getting more popular, noticeably in the three years that we’ve been here) and there aren’t a lot of low-cut backs either. The policy almost seems to be “cover the tops, bottoms be damned!”

TVXQ Sofa Suit

Only TVXQ can wear sofas

Now, this isn’t necessarily easy to see in Kpop videos, which aren’t an accurate reflection of what the rest of Korea wears. In fact, Martina got in a conversation with her students about it before when she asked them why they don’t wear tank tops without shrugs or boleros, they responded “oh! Only idols can wear things like that!” As if different rules apply to idols! Idols are human, too! They also have parents who surely see them on TV and sigh and TSK disapprovingly. But one thing is for sure, the outfits idols wear on stage don’t follow them into everyday life. When kpop idols post selcas (Konglish for a self taken pictures) of themselves online traveling between shows (or enjoying their day off…haha…do they ever get a day off) the are most often in baggy t-shirts, hoodies, or other comfy looking articles of clothing. Nonetheless, the mini-skirts, short-shorts, and super high heels still match nicely with a baggy t-shirt. ^^

TL;DR – Korea’s more modest when it comes to tops, but not as modest when it comes to bottoms.

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  1. Aaron PRP

    this was the first video i saw from you guys and up until now i’m still watching all your videos, thank you for teaching me so much about life in South Korea and there awesome music (not only kpop XD) thanks Simon and Martina!!! :)

  2. Hareem Siddiqi
    Hareem Siddiqi

    So, I’m a Pakistani, American raised Muslim, would I fit in in Korea?

  3. Vishvak Rangarajan

    So why do the female kpop stars, get pretty darn sexual in music videos when the culture is to cover up? Not to say all videos are like that, but would you say they do it because they have to based on their agreements or because they want to. And if they choose to why are these music videos being banned in the first place

  4. Um, i actually have a question, i’m going to South Korea at 16th June-22 June, there will be a tour guide, but, when u go shopping in Korea, are there some things that u should not buy AT ALL? And, will a Korean like, uh, gives u a nasty look when u cannot speak Korean well? Cuz, rumors are flying around in fb(my frens).. :/ And i will like to have a pack-up list issued to me before i go overseas. But there was none issued to me and, i was hoping if u could provide me with more info bout packin to Korea? I already saw one of ur videos, so, i was hopin for more, ya. (:

  5. When I lived Moscow I did wear short skirts (“normal” short skirts not like K-miniskirt!) in Winter time and didn’t feel cold! lol

  6. Not to be rude, I don’t mean it in that way but Korean women are smaller in terms of body size generally – far as I have noticed. So these shorter shorts don’t really look revealing on them – is it just me? I mean most women in the west, like myself, are bigger generally, so if I am even the same height as an average Korean girl, possibly same weight too, I still won’t pull off those shorter shorts because I am way to curvy in some areas, where shorter shorts would make my butt for example exposed – make me look like some hooker. However a average Korean girl to me, they seem to have less fat in their butts and whatnot – you know, they have curves on them, but slim curves, so they look ‘normal’ not sluty, but cute and pretty whatnot…whereas a lot of women in the west tend to have much more fuller curves…just bigger lol. I envy them sometimes, and sometimes my curves come in handy ;)

    • Hannah Craig

      Yeah, I’m a tall white girl with a normal-sized butt, and I’ll see skirts and dresses in stores that will literally not cover my ass. I always wondered who in the heck even could wear things like that when one of my Chinese friends wore a skirt that went about a centimeter past her butt. And it was cute. And did not ride up like mine did. And I could never wear that.
      Short shorts don’t discriminate against tall people though. I wear those things every day.

    • That’s kind of true. I would get in trouble for shorts not being arm length in elementary school, but I was REALLY TALL so other girls could wear short shorts and never get caught. 

  7. Hahah. Only TVXQ can pull that off. But honestly, I like the outfit. Yun and Max looks so fresh and cool and badass! xD

  8. ROFL i love how junsu’s apron is so relevant here XD 

  9. Byeonguk Yook

    What does it say about about modesty in this country when they can’t make up their mind on this?
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/08/117_92149.html
    I don’t understand why anybody would suggest nudism in this country if they are going to deal with it like this.

  10. You guys are so funny! And btw, Martina’s pink hair awesome. :)

  11. Byeonguk Yook

    Some modesty.
    Apparently this woman has been wearing garter belt to work everyday.
    http://sports.chosun.com/news/ntype3.htm?id=201108040100026810001994&ServiceDate=20110803

  12. oh lookie! i found the female version of the sofa print here :D (http://j.mp/n4yGjs)

  13. Byeonguk Yook

    I remember the days that you couldn’t wear shorts outside in Korea. Now this. Hmmmm… I wonder how long it is going to take until Korea becomes a nudist country?

  14. jelliekookie

    oh the irony of it all. ;)

  15. There is such thing as the “no-pants fashion”
    That is like, the epitome of covering the tops and let bottoms be totally damned.
    Damned so much that they disappeared completely, in fact.

  16. allaboutlibra

    Yeah … Everytime I’ve been to Korea in summer, I was always watched angrily … Because of my naked shoulders and shorts. And make-up. And nail polish. Hmpf. :/
    In my hometown, it’s totally normal to go out with only a top and a skirt or shorts. Sometimes Korea is so prude … :/

    Libra from Berlin (Germany)
    http://allaboutlibra.blogspot.com

  17. “ Aren’t legs considered to be sexy?” THAN YOU for this comment ^___________^
    I really had a hard time trying to convince my non-kpoper friends that its ok to show-off ur LEGS as long as u cover ur belly button & yea they all went : HUH ?! then burst out laughed at me T_T 
    And when my sister watched Ga-In’s irreversible perf. *when she wore a long sweater* she said: “she’s dancing with only a sweater on >.> *sigh* i guess a sweater to us is a dress to them.” LOL sorry, but its true XD and in my opinion, no offence to anyone, they wear short mini skirts to look taller. THAT’S THE ONLY EXPLANATION that convinced me.

  18. Hi
    First of all, you guys are awesome. I stumbled upon your videos on youtube and have been following you since.
    I do have a question for you. I am interested in going to Korea for a short trip, say 7~10 days, What places would you recommend? I am more interested in places with historical significance than scenic beauty

  19. Is there a curfew for teenagers where they have to be home? In Oregon, it’s 10PM :(….

  20. childinlife

    Do Korean Girls Really sound like what they sound like in the drama “OPPA”!
    And  what Does Kimchi actually taste like i know its a stupid question but i tried making it and  well I think  I got food poisoning

  21. On a casual day, I love the ‘Abercrombie style’..front-buttoned-double-layered tanks, hipster shorts and flipflops/sneakers and never fail to receive weird stares…like they’ve nothing seen it before. lolx..  And..I went to school like that..

  22. Do you draw those pictures on the video like the girl?

  23. arrghh milk went out my nose when i read the ‘sofa line’ 

  24. Sofa suit..pfft..*snickers*..classic..just classic.>XD

  25. I love DBSK to bits (DBSK in my mind is forever a 5-man unit) but god, those outfits were HORRID -falls off chair laughing and crying over the hideous clothes- the MAPRON, how can anyone not cackle over that? And the omfg-must-rip-eyes-out disgusting sofa suit….. Come on stylists, I know dbsk is freaking hot and fans will swoon over anything but please stop trying to push the limit and see at what point will fans just barf over the ugly clothes instead of cooing and sighing how fab the boys look and ignore the fugly clothes XDD

  26. no need to make a vid for this question:

    where do you guys get those cute stickers??? i LOVE them  :)

  27. LOL, sofa suit…

    Poor Yunho<3

  28. Farah Afiza

    LOL at the sofa suit

  29. LOL i learn a new word today! MAPRON FTW!!! :DD

  30. jazzyfish

    You gotta admit, Jonghyun still really pulls of his mapron in Lucifer though. XD

    • Harliyana Mohd Hanif

      I don’t know. Maybe because SHinee members are androgynous looking -_- They looked so young (they were back then) and so thin and girly looking, so man-dress looked okay/acceptable somehow on them. Hehehe

  31. annis1991

    How to wear miniskirts in winter: LEGGINGS that are like 1 cm thick. You don’t realise they’re that thick until you feel them. I bought some in China, it was -25 C and I wore skirts. Didn’t freeze at all! :D

  32. that totally a man-apron lol and not sexy at all haha

    only on girls mucho mucho smexy!!! hehe

  33. I’m Korean teenager. It’s true that girls wear hot pants( short shorts) in freezing winter.
    I don’t wear shorts in freezing winter because it’s too cold for me, but my friends usually wear shorts during winter. They endure coldness for beauty@.@
    also we already endure coldness when we wear school uniform ^_^
    As you saw in schools, we wear school uniforms…..I think it’s colder than shorts…..

  34. alicia ouyang

    Jonghyun’s back anyone? XD

  35. To be honest, all of last winter I wore a mini skirt (not as mini as korean skirts) every day, even in -15C. You get really adjusted to the ice cold-ness and it’s comfortable… sort of.

  36. Anonymous

    People tend to confuse what singer would wear and take it as what ordinary citizens would wear, like your question kinda says. But it is all stage outfits. Most of the time singer will where what the fashion of the time is on the streets. 

  37. winic fernandez rubel

    btw, martina, I loveeeeeeee your hair!!!!!!!!!1

  38. winic fernandez rubel

    I wish to never sweat!!!! I feel really uncomfortable wearing anything that cover my shoulders( well, mostly when it is to close to my arm pits, if it is something long that is not stick to my skin then it is ok XD)

    I live in the Puerto Rico and believe me, the weather in this island is
    spring- hot hot
    summer- hot hot hot hot, summer (XD)
    autumn- hot hot
    winter- hot
    so it is hot all year, and I prefer short clothes, and here girls always wear super short shorts!!! like really short, they look like bikinis sometimes( I never wear them that short) but I do love to show my legs XD
    I think that when I go to korea, I will use my mini skirts and shorts, but I wont cover my shoulders, I dont want to sweat a lot there XD lol

  39. SIMON! 
    Your Shirt!!
    I Want it!!
    Threadless is out of my size last i check >_>

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