TL;DR – Modesty in Korean Fashion

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Ok, so this week’s question is a really interesting one. We’re asked about Korea’s idea of modesty in clothing. Is showing cleavage taboo? How short can short shorts go? What can you show, and what can’t you show?

It took us a while to get used to Korea’s version of what seems to be appropriate and inappropriate in clothing. We hear about Korea being very conservative a lot of the time. Kpop songs are banned for saying bad things, like GD & TOP’s “Knock Out,” or for being too sexy as in Sistar’s “How Dare You.” In the case of GD&TOP, we were really confused, because we didn’t understand what’s so bad about what they’re saying. Maybe because we’re North American and we’ve seen a lot worse? Which is why in the case of Sistar’s “30 second stripped pole” appearance, we were also shocked. Sure, it’s not the best material to show young kids, but ban-worthy?

Live performances of Kpop songs supposedly have very strict regulations as to how much flesh you can show on stage, which also kind of makes us laugh, not because the ideas of modesty are laughable, but because we’re so overexposed to improprieties now that what we see in Kpop performances seems tame. It does seem interesting, however, to note that kpop males groups can easily get away with showing their stomachs in a performance as well as dance around shirtless with open dress jackets, or even take pictures while underage in their underwear and…heels…*coughteentopcough*. Yet female groups can get in big trouble for showing their mid-drift…but only sometimes, like in the case of Rainbow’s “A” which was forced to change their dance for being inappropriate, yet Hyuna’s “Bubble Pop” dance and Rania’s “Dr.Feel Good” was aired with no problems. We’re not saying that these two songs should be banned as well, but it seems to us that the criteria for the Korean censorship board is a little confusing to understand.

Which is why we were so shocked, and continue to be shocked, by Korean mini-skirts. Holy crap Batman! Korean skirts are shoooooort. SHOOORT! Like, wow short. Aren’t legs considered to be sexy? We’re amazed at how short the dresses and shorts and skirts are here. Martina goes shopping for clothing and finds skirts that see thinks are belts. Or maybe we’ve been out of Canada for too many years now, but we’re sure for sure for sure that when we were in Toronto last summer we didn’t see anything as short as what we’re seeing here. It’s like, the dresses go up as much as comfortably possible, juuuust before unmentionables can be seen, and there have been times here in which we’ve seen more than we’d have like to have seen.

Korean Miniskirts

Korean Miniskirts - Worn Year Round

Also, we have to add that miniskirts are worn year round. DON’T DENY THIS! We’ve seen girls in freezing winter with mini-skirts and high heels on, and that completely blows our minds. Sure, they’re not as common in the winter as they are in the summer, but – we swear – we have no clue how people aren’t fully bundled up in the winters here, which are belligerently cold! And we’re saying this as Canadians…from Canadia! We don’t know how Korean people do it: they don’t seem to sweat as much as we do in the summer or shiver as much in the winter. It’s…amazing.

Let’s add to this by saying that not everybody dresses this way, so don’t get the idea that Korea’s a mini-skirt paradise with hot girls walking around everywhere showing off their long legs in high heels. All we’re saying is that we’re surprised at how shorter short skirts considering how modest they are regarding many other things.

And on that note, tops are muuuuch more conservative here. Much more. There aren’t a lot of low cut tops and not a lot of cleavage being shown. Bare shoulders aren’t seen often (but it’s getting more popular, noticeably in the three years that we’ve been here) and there aren’t a lot of low-cut backs either. The policy almost seems to be “cover the tops, bottoms be damned!”

TVXQ Sofa Suit

Only TVXQ can wear sofas

Now, this isn’t necessarily easy to see in Kpop videos, which aren’t an accurate reflection of what the rest of Korea wears. In fact, Martina got in a conversation with her students about it before when she asked them why they don’t wear tank tops without shrugs or boleros, they responded “oh! Only idols can wear things like that!” As if different rules apply to idols! Idols are human, too! They also have parents who surely see them on TV and sigh and TSK disapprovingly. But one thing is for sure, the outfits idols wear on stage don’t follow them into everyday life. When kpop idols post selcas (Konglish for a self taken pictures) of themselves online traveling between shows (or enjoying their day off…haha…do they ever get a day off) the are most often in baggy t-shirts, hoodies, or other comfy looking articles of clothing. Nonetheless, the mini-skirts, short-shorts, and super high heels still match nicely with a baggy t-shirt. ^^

TL;DR – Korea’s more modest when it comes to tops, but not as modest when it comes to bottoms.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5NEHKRN7TWQTL76LN77UEJ2TCE Mick Teo

    On a casual day, I love the ‘Abercrombie style’..front-buttoned-double-layered tanks, hipster shorts and flipflops/sneakers and never fail to receive weird stares…like they’ve nothing seen it before. lolx..  And..I went to school like that..

  • childinlife

    Do Korean Girls Really sound like what they sound like in the drama “OPPA”!
    And  what Does Kimchi actually taste like i know its a stupid question but i tried making it and  well I think  I got food poisoning

    • Hee-Do Hong

      “OPPA” thing……. YES

      Kimchi tastes like……..umm…… i can’t explain, but u will like it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1503626333 Kendra Renee Moore

      ok, about kimchi, it tastes good if u like cabbage, im not a big fan of cabbage but the taste is still pretty good…but thats not the important thing, its the smell of kimchi that was hard for me to handle, not that it is bad it is just extremely strong!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XMHOJHFPDEBTMJGG5SQIW3WALY Doreen Park

        kimchi is not only made with cabbage. there are over 100 different kinds of kimchi and each person has their own preference.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000693172951 Celena Mae

    Is there a curfew for teenagers where they have to be home? In Oregon, it’s 10PM :( ….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XMHOJHFPDEBTMJGG5SQIW3WALY Doreen Park

      no because most kids in Korea go to after school lessons and a lot of middle school kids even have lessons till 10pm. for high schoolers normal afterschool self-study sessions end at 10pm

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arijit-Dasgupta/100001149132038 Arijit Dasgupta

    Hi
    First of all, you guys are awesome. I stumbled upon your videos on youtube and have been following you since.
    I do have a question for you. I am interested in going to Korea for a short trip, say 7~10 days, What places would you recommend? I am more interested in places with historical significance than scenic beauty

    • Byeonguk Yook

      Historical significance I would say Kyongju which is in the southeastern corner of the country near daegu.
      There is also baekje royal tombs within seoul itself near the olympic park on the southern part of the city. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arijit-Dasgupta/100001149132038 Arijit Dasgupta

        Tombs I like . .thanks for the info

  • http://twitter.com/foshydoll S O S A H

    “ Aren’t legs considered to be sexy?” THAN YOU for this comment ^___________^
    I really had a hard time trying to convince my non-kpoper friends that its ok to show-off ur LEGS as long as u cover ur belly button & yea they all went : HUH ?! then burst out laughed at me T_T 
    And when my sister watched Ga-In’s irreversible perf. *when she wore a long sweater* she said: “she’s dancing with only a sweater on >.> *sigh* i guess a sweater to us is a dress to them.” LOL sorry, but its true XD and in my opinion, no offence to anyone, they wear short mini skirts to look taller. THAT’S THE ONLY EXPLANATION that convinced me.

  • allaboutlibra

    Yeah … Everytime I’ve been to Korea in summer, I was always watched angrily … Because of my naked shoulders and shorts. And make-up. And nail polish. Hmpf. :/
    In my hometown, it’s totally normal to go out with only a top and a skirt or shorts. Sometimes Korea is so prude … :/

    Libra from Berlin (Germany)
    http://allaboutlibra.blogspot.com

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOGSCQ4VVY72JEG7YPNHHQSKXU Yuna

    There is such thing as the “no-pants fashion”
    That is like, the epitome of covering the tops and let bottoms be totally damned.
    Damned so much that they disappeared completely, in fact.

  • jelliekookie

    oh the irony of it all. ;)

  • Byeonguk Yook

    I remember the days that you couldn’t wear shorts outside in Korea. Now this. Hmmmm… I wonder how long it is going to take until Korea becomes a nudist country?

  • http://twitter.com/hallyufollower Jasmine Yam

    oh lookie! i found the female version of the sofa print here :D (http://j.mp/n4yGjs)

  • Byeonguk Yook

    Some modesty.
    Apparently this woman has been wearing garter belt to work everyday.
    http://sports.chosun.com/news/ntype3.htm?id=201108040100026810001994&ServiceDate=20110803

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chelsea-Elizabeth-Herrick/539398634 Chelsea Elizabeth Herrick

    You guys are so funny! And btw, Martina’s pink hair awesome. :)

  • Byeonguk Yook

    What does it say about about modesty in this country when they can’t make up their mind on this?
    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/08/117_92149.html
    I don’t understand why anybody would suggest nudism in this country if they are going to deal with it like this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Emichu 안 성령

      Nude beach, I understand… but why would people want to be nude in the forest… That’s just an accident waiting to happen. Ouch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LingeringFaith Linh Tran

    ROFL i love how junsu’s apron is so relevant here XD 

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  • http://twitter.com/Val_CassiELF Zelyne April

    Hahah. Only TVXQ can pull that off. But honestly, I like the outfit. Yun and Max looks so fresh and cool and badass! xD

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