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September 8, 2011

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This week’s question is, how do Korean people react to us in Korea: more specifically, how do they react to us trying to partake in Korean Culture and the Korean Language? Do they approve, or do they find it insulting?

We’ve been in Korea for over three years now. As many of you can tell, we really love living in Korea and we’re having a great time here. From our experiences, we’re finding different reactions to different kinds of engagement with Korea. The first one we talk about is our engaging in Korean culture, which – all across the board – has been positive. Whenever we show our interest in Korea, and try to engage in Korean activities, we’re met with really warm and happy responses. We mention in the video our World Cup Soccer experience, which is – really – one of our fondest memories of Korea.

We were at the fried chicken restaurant, in a swarm of people all surrounding the TV. We wore red shirts, had the red devil horns and pitchforks. We had the stickers under our eyes. We cheered our guts out for Korea. When Korea scored, we screamed with everyone, jumped around, hugged and high fixed random people. We were just happy watching the game and rooting for Korea. Some people, though, were really touched by our passion towards the game, and bought us a lot of chicken and beer. They thanked us for cheering for Korea, and – I swear – we felt so close to Korea at that moment. We felt like we were a part of Korea, for that moment, and didn’t feel like outsiders at all.

Really, one of the most difficult things for us in Korea is the constant reminder of being foreigners, of being outsiders. We are not Korean. We don’t look Korean, as people constantly remind us when they point at us in the streets and say “Oh! Foreigners!” Even in a small elevator, people will talk about you as if you aren’t standing right beside them…even after you spoke to them in Korean. It’s really baffling. And so, after being reminded so often of being outsiders, that World Cup Soccer moment made us forget about that for a moment. And it’s really those times where we engage with Korean Culture that we feel a little more accepted here.

Speaking Korean, though, is a different story, and we have two different reactions to us speaking Korean. Most of the time, whenever we use whatever Korean we know, we’re met with “wow he speaks Korean very well!” or “wow your Korean is good!” Now, we know that this is not mean spirited. It just feels similar to those times that we’re pointed out in the streets as being foreigners. I think this is hard for us to explain fully without an example. Recently when we were walking Spudgy, we told a Korean couple (who were looking hesitantly at Spudgy) in Korea, “Don’t worry, he doesn’t bite! It’s okay to pet him” and the boyfriend turned to his girlfriend and said, “he speaks Korean very well” and we said, “Oh thank you” In Korean, and he once again turned to his girlfriend and said, “Oh they speak Korean very well.” Now, we totally know he wasn’t trying to be rude, but COME ON! We’re standing RIGHT THERE, and we can clearly understand you! He literally added nothing to the conversation except that point.

The result of this kind of reaction is a constant reminder of our distance from being a part of Korea. You remember our Korean Like a Pro segments? At the end, when we’re pointed out as being foreigners, and then complimented for speaking awkward Korean…yeah, that’s not really a joke, it’s really what happens.

Now for us, it’s not as bad because we only speak basic conversationally Korean, but for our friends who are planning to live permanently in Korea and speak Korean fluently, their intellectual conversation can be disregarded because it’s a foreigner saying them. Again, it’s not to say that foreigners aren’t allowed to have good points in a conversation. It’s more that their good points are lost in the surprise that people feel at hearing someone speak Korean well. It’s like, if you heard a toddler give you his position on James Joyce’s “Ulysses” and how it affected postmodernism, instead of listening to his points, you might be more amazed by the fact that the toddler made it through that book, let alone formed an opinion of it. And so it feels the same way for us.

The other experience we get from Korean people when we speak our little bits of Korean is simply the “well, why don’t you speak MORE Korean? Why don’t you speak it more fluently?” position, and this position can be held both by Koreans, and Korean speaking foreigners, with an air of disdain. Now, we don’t experience this all of the time, but we have experienced it enough that we feel that we need to comment on it.

But how can we comment on it? It annoys us. Yes, we don’t speak Korean fluently, and that’s been our choice. We’ve dedicated every free moment to making a video blog. Instead of learning Korean, we learned how to shoot and edit videos (seriously: have you seen our first videos? They’re TERRIBLE!). We learned how to code a website, and we spend a vast majority of our time trying to talk to different people online, respond to their comments and answer their emails. And, hey, we also taught full-time. Plus, when you’re a happily married couple, you don’t have that urgency to get out there and start talking Korean to meet a hot Korean guy or girl.

But, even if we didn’t run a website, even if we weren’t that busy, it’s still not fair to ask that of people. Some people just don’t want to learn languages, not out of stubbornness or out of a sense of elitism, but because – hey – maybe they don’t like learning languages. Maybe they’re not good at it. Maybe they like the experience of newness. Maybe they don’t have long term plans for Korea. Whatever that person’s reasons may be, we don’t think it’s fair to ask them why they haven’t learned how to speak Korean as if it’s a requirement that comes with every country you visit.

The only time we feel a bit upset at people for not learning Korean is when they EXPECT that people in Korea should all speak and understand English, and then they are upset when Korean people don’t understand them. That, we totally disagree with. If you’re expecting all Koreans to understand everything you say in English, and you refuse to learn any Korean, then we feel it’s right to ask you why you haven’t made the effort to try and compromise for the sake of communication.

Anyways, despite our few discomforts with living in Korea, we hope that most people can see that we really appreciate the eye opening experiences life in a foreign country has brought us. We wonder if other people have experienced similar feelings of “foreignness” here in Korea, or what their position is on learning a foreign language in a country that isn’t necessarily their home.

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  1. I hear you with the your English is very good part. My husband’s family is Chinese and they are constantly saying that to me, even when I know I am making mistakes. The worst part about Chinese though, is it took me forever to get used to the giggling. Every attempt I make at Mandarin gets a fit of giggles followed by them speaking rapid fire to each other in hushed tones.. Instinctively, you feel like you are being made fun of, but in reality they are thrilled that you are attempting praise your Chinese relatives for having such a good daughter-in-law.

    2 years ago
  2. which friend were you talking about? do they have a youtube channel? if they do, can you please post a link?

    4 years ago
  3. Even though I understand perfectly your point, I’ll continue to be happy when the Korean owners at the korean restaurant near my house tell me my pronouncitation is really good. I think I even go there more often just to hear the compliment rather than to enjoy the food. Ok no, that can be it, the food is as delicious as the compliments then…

    4 years ago
  4. totally agreeeee that World Cup was superrr awesome in Korea. I had the blessing to experience World Cup back in 2002, and i never knew Korea could be so…loving?? and united and there was just this spirit of togetherness. :) :) :)

    4 years ago
  5. Oh thank you for this blog!!!! I’ve been trying to get answers if Korean people do the same as Japanese when you speak Korean. I was in Japan for 4 years and constantly got that infamous “nihongo ga jouzu desu ne.” (your Japanese is great). They also switched to English even when I started off in Japanese, so I continued in Japanese and let them fumble around in English.
    Now if I do get to go to Korea one day, I know what to expect from the Korean people and I will just continue in the language. :)

    4 years ago
  6. Hmmm… my english is not good. Sorry.
    Your video is wonderful and comments are so interesting. As always :)
    After all of that i have one question: why `russia saram` with `eyebrows` means `prostitute`?
     I’m Russian, so I really wonder why Koreans say it. >_<
    As for the language …. every time I talk to foreigners, they say to me: "Oh, you have a good English!" Although I know very well that it is not. Especially funny when they say it, for example, in the Czech Republic or Finland. Most want to answer "Yes, you too, good English"I also teach Korean. And my teacher says other Koreans, "She's fluent in Korean," I replyin Korean, and they are looking at me saying, "Yes, she has a good Korean" are not embarrassed by the fact that I'm standing next to them and understand it. Sometimes it's so … strange. 

    5 years ago
  7. They’re not reminding you your korean is good because they think it’s good. they’re trying to encourage you because you’re barely scraping by and you sound cute.

    5 years ago
  8. I’m a foreigner in Korea working as part of a diplomatic staff.  
    I can say that honestly, with the 95% of foreigners who are in Korea as teachers, the main problem is that their minds are in vacation mode and they feel that they are complete submerged into a brand new novel world.  What you often hear foreigners talking about in public and on public transportation is their efforts to analyze Korean culture and girls, with one friend speaking rather authoritatively (confidently) about the matter to the other friend.  Many Korean have a good grasp of English, so you should be careful what you say as it’s quite possible there are people who understand you (i.e. me). I conduct my daily activities in Korean, and do not go out of my way and actually actively avoid meeting foreigners.  

    Cultural sensitivity is very important.  It’s one thing to not know not to speak loudly in public transportation (in other words, be obnoxious), and it’s another thing to have absolutely zero social skills and social tact in noticing that around you, people aren’t being as loud as you are.  Take a moment to look around and realize that even though you and your other English speaking friend are the only people in the world right now because both of you are the only ones the other person can understand, outside of that safety bubble you are in is a whole other world of people who are citizens of the country that is hosting you.  

    Lastly, if you find yourself in love with Korea for all the stereotypical reasons, start studying your history, politics, and economics books and understand the many challenges that Korea is facing now, has faced, and will face, and no that just like any other country in the world, it has nuances that are neat yes, but many of which also pose a challenge to its long term sustainability, which it is trying to tackle in a mature manner.

    I have lived and worked in about 9 different countries on five continents, so here is the advice I have to give to you, no matter where you live (FOR THE PURPOSE OF WORKING or STUDYING FOR A LONG TIME) in the future (though if you are an English teacher, the likelihood is that you are treating your stay as a vacation and have no future as a person working abroad on business)

    1. Be culturally sensitive.  You’re also in a different country under different laws.  respect it the same way you expect other visitors to your own country.

    2. Get rid of your superiority complex and humble yourself.

    3. Don’t complain about anything in your host country unless you have studied the matter and the different perspectives the same way one would do to complete their PhD Doctoral Thesis.  If you don’t, you have no right to comment on it.

    4. When you meet members of your host country, treat them like normal human beings, and treat yourself like a normal human being as well.  There’s no need to patronize each other for how cute, neat, or different the other culture is.  You’re in the country, live in it like it’s your own rather than be some wanderlust completely flabbergasted by everything.  Treat others like normal human beings and the same way you would treat meeting a new person in your own country.

    5. Get a fucking grip on the language.  I mean it.  I appreciate it when I see a foreigner making a concerted effort to learn the language by not being shy, practicing, 

    6. Stop hanging out with other foreigners and expats.  They are not your pillar and comfort bubble.  You are not helping them and they are not helping you.  Don’t want to feel isolated in Korea?  Start adapting.

    6. Listen to your superiors and respect seniors.  I know this is counter to the labour-union and right oriented culture of the west, but YOU made a choice to come to Korea.  Unless you have a very liberal boss, know to sit down and shut up when you know it’ll help you keep your job.  The job market is tough here, you are always replaceable.  

    7. Stop taking pictures of everything you see and eat.  You are embarrassing yourself as well as your friends.

    8.  Make an effort to speak full sentences, and don’t drop random Korean words.  You sound ridiculous.  If you’re not going to learn the language, at least work on your pronunciation.  I don’t think you came to Korea in order to sound like a donkey.   

    9. For the men – when you speak Korean, you don’t have to go back to sounding like you’re in the midst of hitting puberty.  But don’t be flat either.  

    10. Eat your food.  If it won’t kill you, just eat it, and stop making faces and comments.

    11. If you are unable to do at least 5 of the above, return to your place of origin.  You either do not want to adapt, have tried to but unfortunately were not able to adapt, completely failed to adapt, or simply the place is not for you.  Before your own dignity and self-esteem is completely demolished, recede back into your home of comfort, and do not go to another country for the purpose of a long-term stay again.  You were not made for it.

    5 years ago
  9. interesting. pretty much the same as in japan, i guess. although there is one thing that sometimes happens here, that you didn’t mention,  so i’m wondering if it happens there too…

    i speak pretty decent japanese, and i don’t live in a big city, but this sometimes happen if i go to Tokyo or Osaka and whatnot. i’ll go to a restaurant or something, and start speaking to the staff in japanese, and they’ll imediately switch to this completely bastardized, unintelligible english. now i KNOW my japanese is fine, but it’s like they have a mental block or something that the foreigner cannot speak japanese, so they carry on in that weird english that i can’t even understand… it’s REALLY annoying…

    5 years ago
    • What I figure is probably the case, is that most Japanese people have learned at least a tiny bit of English in schooling. But they probably normally don’t have that much of a chance to ever use it often. So when they see a foreigner that knows English, they probably jump on the chance to practice their English. Just what I was thinking.

      4 years ago
  10. I think stuff like that happens where ever you go in any country when you are always a foreigner.
    In Japan, it’s sort of a similar situation and instead of 외국인 you would hear gaijin whispered or right in your face.
    For me, living in the Middle East for almost all my life and only being born in Korea has its quirks too.
    Here there is quite the diversity of nationalities as expats make up a lot for the workforce as the locals will never do anything for 3D jobs. Hence just because I’m Asian, the locals will come up anytime even though I’ve never met them or even talked with them and ask me right off the bat, “where are you from?”.
    Or some come up to my face and immediately go “Chinese? Japanese? Thai? Filipino?” And when I say no to all of them, then they’ll wait for my revealing answer.
    So now when I get that and I get that often, I say “None of your business”. Or sometimes I do the same, “Pakistani? Bangladesh? Saudi? Irani? Omani?”.  I don’t want to be rude but they are being rude. If we got to know each other and then it came up, then it wouldn’t be such a problem.
    Once I was buying printer ink at a store and when ringing it up the guy asked where I was from. I told him why he needed to know that and what it has to do with me buying stuff at the store. I then asked, if I told you where I’m from would I get a special discount for telling?

    I now even tell my wife that when anyone asks stupid questions like that to not get the image they are being friendly and don’t bother taking the time to tell them where. They just find it amusing to ask…

    5 years ago
  11. About the
    speaking, i think you are right. I experience the same. But I think is kind of
    the Korean behaved to non-korean- people. A lot of people said I am pretty, which
    flattered me at the beginning, but now a lot of people said it to everything
    (new dress, new hair…)and I do think now it’s just the be nice, not that the
    really mean it. And I think it’s the same with the language. The “Your Korean is
    good” is more like “you Korean sucks, but thanks for learning my language” kind
    of. >.<

    And what
    really annoyed me is everyone things you are American, tried to speak English
    with you or in my case thinks you are from Russia. Why can’t they just ask instant
    of guessing around…

    But all in
    all Korean people are really friendly and they feed you a lot^^ =) And they are
    really concern if the food is to your taste or too spicy.

    5 years ago
  12. I’m a Filipina and I can speak English really well. When I’m outside with my non-Filipina friends, I talk to Filipino staff in Tagalog, using honorifics such as “po” and “opo”…like “yeo” in Korean–and they’re so surprised I’m a Filipina. xD They say “Wow, you can speak English really well.”

    I’ve been fluent in English all my life, but my accent’s all over the place– I sound American/British/Australian/Canadian, all at the same time. :D
    This is really interesting, my Korean friend say that her friends were fascinated by how well she spoke in English. :)

    5 years ago
  13. I’m a Filipina and I can speak English really well. When I’m outside with my non-Filipina friends, I talk to Filipino staff in Tagalog, using honorifics such as “po” and “opo”…like “yeo” in Korean–and they’re so surprised I’m a Filipina. xD They say “Wow, you can speak English really well.”

    I’ve been fluent in English all my life, but my accent’s all over the place– I sound American/British/Australian/Canadian, all at the same time. :D
    This is really interesting, my Korean friend say that her friends were fascinated by how well she spoke in English. :)

    5 years ago
  14.  was born in Nigeria but moved to Canada and then the U.S. I have spoken English (albeit with a slight British accent). When I tell people I am Nigerian, they go, “Aw, your English is so good.” I am tempted to tell them that I probably speak better English than they do :-). 

    My mom has lived in Canada and the U.S. all her life but because she retains a bit of a Nigerian accent, I get addressed more often than she does when we are together in grocery stores. They think she doesn’t speak English. Sometimes, I want to tell them that she went to college, got a Bachelor’s degree, Master’s degree and PhD, speaks fluent English and is a tenured professor at a prominent university in the U.S. but I refrain.

    5 years ago
  15. I was born in Nigeria but moved to Canada and then the U.S. I have spoken English (albeit with a slight British accent). When I tell people I am Nigerian, they go, “Aw, your English is so good.” I am tempted to tell them that I probably speak better English than they do :-). 

    My mom has lived in Canada and the U.S. all her life but because she retains a bit of a Nigerian accent, I get addressed more often than she does when we are together in grocery stores. They think she doesn’t speak English. Sometimes, I want to tell them that she went to college, got a Bachelor’s degree, Master’s degree and PhD, speaks fluent English and is a tenured professor at a prominent university in the U.S. but I refrain.

    5 years ago
  16. I was born in Nigeria but moved to Canada and then the U.S. I have spoken English (albeit with a slight British accent). When I tell people I am Nigerian, they go, “Aw, your English is so good.” I am tempted to tell them that I probably speak better English than they do :-). 

    My mom has lived in Canada and the U.S. all her life but because she retains a bit of a Nigerian accent, I get addressed more often than she does when we are together in grocery stores. They think she doesn’t speak English. Sometimes, I want to tell them that she went to college, got a Bachelor’s degree, Master’s degree and PhD, speaks fluent English and is a tenured professor at a prominent university in the U.S. but I refrain.

    5 years ago
  17. hi pplz! i am a person that lives in japan and speaks fluent japanese and english. kpop is my life and i went to chilies once saw a guy that had the same hair as simon and yelled at the top of my lungs. OMG!!!!!! its SIMON!!! HI SIMON!! YOU PROBABLY DONT KNOW ME BUT HIIIIII!!! once i noticed it wasnt simon i ran to the bathroom and started to laugh at my self and said, thats not simon!!!

    5 years ago
  18. i’m super about the adventure videos and seeing more of korea and the culture.  I’d think it’d be really cool if you guys featured some food in the adventure segment because the few episodes/videos you two do with food i find really interesting, like the kimchi making video was fascinating to me. 

    5 years ago
  19. Oh man! I can so identify with this video! Haha. Well, I’m Asian so I think many Asians find it truly amazing whenever foreigners pick up our language. I can’t speak for Koreans but I think it’s cool that Simon and Martina knows the language and are sharing so much stuff about Korea to us in ENGLISH~ :)

    5 years ago
  20. I loved the points you guys shared in this one.  I have to share:  My experience with the many Korean people that I know here in the States is mixed.  About half have come here recently; within the last 5 years, so their English is either pretty darn good or non-existent.  But I have found that even though they are very respectful in communication as a rule, they are ALL very blunt.  I think most of the time it translates as a bit forward and rude but when I apply this rule to dealing with them, they are NEVER offended.  (Or they’re lying…LOL)  When I am blunt, (which is often no matter who I’m talking to) I apologize for my frankness and ALWAYS my apology is met with “no, you did nothing wrong, I understand you completely.”  (In fact, Americans CANNOT handle frankness quite as well as Koreans.)  I think Koreans believe in feed back and confirmation of their actions through statements that point out…well, the obvious.  Ah, the things that make the world go around.  Love & Peace.

    5 years ago
  21. My sister Hyeon-Jin once told me about how her friend Jen, also an exchange student, had a very funny moment with a school principal. She went to great her, and not realizing that Jen had been speaking English since the third grade and had lived in America for 3 years already said “HELLO.WELCOME…TO OUR…COUNTRY! I AM YOUR…PRINCIPAL! DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS???”  And Jen just looked at her and said in perfect English, “Yes I do know what that is. Also, I am foreign, not deaf.”  Best embarrassing moment ever xD

    5 years ago
  22. as an asian-american, i’ve gotten plenty of ‘oh your english is very good’

    but what’s worse is when making small talk with new people, there’s always that one guy that asks if i spoke ‘asian’

    5 years ago
  23. Haha I know what it’s like! We have a couple Korean exchange students at my school here in Canada and one of my best friends (who is Korean) will introduce me and be like: “HEY SHE CAN SPEAK KOREAN” and they’ll get all giddy and excited. Even though I only know really simple things, they’ll always encourage me and stare, etc. It’s both a little annoying and encouraging, haha. They’re always amazed about how much I know about music and little bits about their culture. Since I’m also fluent in French, they seem to say “I’ll teach you that in Korean, if you teach me it in French”, because they, for the most part, are really interested about learning our culture and our languages. It is, however, like you said, kind of annoying.

    But even in my small school, exchange students get critised for not being able to speak “fluent English”. So I suppose it’s as much as a problem here as in Korea? Even if a student’s English is really good, a teacher or other student will go, “Oh! Your English is very good”, and I know it annoys them. Other exchange students have problems with students finishing their sentence for them. It’s fine to help them out, but talking for them won’t help them learn anything.

    5 years ago
  24. OMGsun …..reminds me of when people tell me all the time that my English is good….Guys just because i am chinese and lived in NEW ZEALAND my whole life {14 years} that i need to be reminded that i speak better english….Gosh its annoying…

    5 years ago
  25. Is it really that surprising the reactions you get from Koreans as foreigners? Not so long ago, countries like Canada and the US had a mostly homogeneous population, and for the most part, it still is that way. Caucasians would offer those same reactions that you receive from Koreans, to non-Caucasians. 

    As an full-blooded Asian born and bred in North America, I distinctly remember going to the grocery store with my mother many years ago, and the cashier exclaimed [about my mother], “Wow! You speak English really well!” Gosh, I hope so, she’s only been living here for 20 years…

    We might pride ourselves on being multicultural and accepting here in North America, but although the situation has improved a lot over the past few decades, it is not totally different from South Korea. Minorities still get the outsider treatment at times. We might speak English like you, enjoy good Western food like you, watch football like you, but we’re still not like you and we don’t always get to forget that. Maybe it’s just something like the odd glance when we walk down the street, the surprise when they realize we’re not that different from them, but it’s still there.

    It’s funny when the tables are turned aren’t they? I don’t mean to be offensive or anything, it’s just that you have to remember that these racial/foreign issues do go both ways. Foreigners in America get treated just like you do in South Korea. Maybe not to such a great degree, maybe not everywhere, but we still have a long way to go.

    5 years ago
    • you said the words right out of my mouth. Although North America (US and Canada) are multicultural countries, I have experienced every bit of “insensitivities” Simon and Martina have talked about in those two countries. From the way Simon and Martina compared the “multicultural Canada” and “culturally insensitive” Korea, I don’t think they were thinking at that time that things can go the other way around. It might be because they were never a minority in their own community and didn’t see someone get that kind of treatment around Toronto.

      5 years ago
    • you said the words right out of my mouth. Although North America (US and Canada) are multicultural countries, I have experienced every bit of “insensitivities” Simon and Martina have talked about in those two countries. From the way Simon and Martina compared the “multicultural Canada” and “culturally insensitive” Korea, I don’t think they were thinking at that time that things can go the other way around. It might be because they were never a minority in their own community and didn’t see someone get that kind of treatment around Toronto.

      5 years ago
    • Depends on the people really. I remember once when our department was out for a party. There was a big TV there and it was showing a match of Liverpool Vs something … One of my colleagues was a big football fan and he hit it off with a British sitting near us cause he happened to be a LIverpool fan as well.  After the match was over, he said “Glad to see more fans here. Let me buy you guys a drink!”

      5 years ago
    • perfect comment.

      5 years ago
  26. it’s not sarcasm, and obviously Simon and Martina never said it was either in the video. A lot of Koreans are fascinated by foreigners knowing Korean language because even a decade ago Korea was not one of the most popular country in the world (the most famous Korean in the world is still ironically Kim Jung Il). A lot of people will say “you speak Korean very well” out of politeness also. it’s just a pattern of speech, like how you can tell a parent that their child is very pretty as a courtesy even though the child may not be the prettiest child you’ve ever seen (not being mean)

    and also, it happens in the US and Canada. Living in Canada and the US, I’ve heard “you speak English very well without an accent” just about every single year, at my school or from my parent’s friends. 
    these are 2 people out of the entire people in Korea who are stating their own opinion. Do some research on your own, ask Koreans yourself and then decide for yourself what it is you want to do with your Korean learning-efforts.

    5 years ago
  27. are you guys talking about your friend Jennifer? She was on running man too for the cooking ep right?? i was surprised by her korean but i obviously didnt know she was fluent haha but yoo jae suk and everyone had the same reaction!! i totally get what u mean. even my korean friends here in the US always say “wow your korean is really good” even though i only know like five words but still lol

    5 years ago
  28. Yes, yes, yes!
    Korean people love other people who join their culture :D
    well, I gotta admit that Koreans will be impressed by how foreign people speaks Korean,
    because it is hard to get Korean accent, you know.

    5 years ago
  29. Yeah .. I’ve had similar experiences while playing World of Warcraft. I’m chatting with my party/raid team and then when we venture into the topic of who lives where, many a times I have got a reaction like ..”Ooo, you are from India? You speak English!!!!!” 
    The first couple of times it was amusing. After that, I usually either roll my eyes or let loose a few swear words in Hindi .. >_< .. Seriously, what has my command of English got to do anything with my strategy for killing Halfus

    5 years ago
    • I’ve been jokingly called a race traitor for being a Korean who doesn’t play Starcraft. Frankly this online gaming thing is a bit overblown. But then you hear of people playing games 2 or 3 days straight with no rest and dying.

      5 years ago
  30. Wow, as a Korean, I was quite surprised after I watched this video. I didn’t think it would be annoying to be commented on your communicating skills. On second thought, however, I could understand that. because if that goes on nonstop, it would even get in the way of communicating itself!
    Though, let me tell you something; we Koreans are very proud of our language-and evidently, it is thought to be the most scientific and easy-to-learn language worldwid.:)  So it is natural to see people being excited at the fact that you speak Korean at first, whatever you are saying. The fact that excitement clouds over your intention-communicating-is a downside, apparently.I understand perfectly how you would feel in that situation, and I’m thankful for your speaking up. I couldn’t have known about it but for your video, and I’m sure I’m speaking for a lot of other Koreans. Thanks again!!!!! :)

    5 years ago
  31. hi tuhina! this is super super creepy since you dont know me, but I saw your comment and I was like, where have I seen this name before? and I was like OH you’re shilpa sure’s friend  at berkeley! haha anyways I just wanted to let you know. 

    5 years ago
  32. It’s a similar story to me. I’m of a descent that is more Indian, but i speak Japanese well. But some people, mostly family, find it embarrassing since it’s not “my native language”. I don’t really know how to react to that.

    5 years ago
    • Meh .. I get the same reaction from people when they come to know that I speak English better than my native tongue. 

      5 years ago
  33. It’s weird… I had this interview for another job the other day and the woman giving me my interview kept asking me about myself, more on a personal level and I mentioned my love of anything Korean. 

    Wouldn’t ya know she has a Korean aunt and she started going on and on about thinking twice about moving over there when I mentioned teaching there… she said that while Koreans will be nice to your face, that they will say a lot behind your back? She kind of compared them to how Southerners can be in the U.S…. super duper friendly but they gossip a lot (I do know this is true based on my family that lives in Georgia). 

    While it sounds horrible… I got thinking about it and where does talking behind other’s backs NOT happen? I’m convinced at this point that it’s just human nature and it just depends on bad the gossip or trash talk gets… 

    5 years ago
    • Everybody talks about everybody else. It doesn’t matter if you are Southern or not. I’m a Southerner born and bred and once I moved out of the South most people think I’m stupid because of my accent or at the very least comment on my “elongated vowels”. Who cares what people might  or might not say about you behind your back? That is giving the gossiper WAY too much power over your life. If they have nothing better to do than talk about you behind your back then let them. They obviously need a hobby anyway. 

      5 years ago
  34. I loved Simon’s last comment. xD And yay for outside adventure videos! TL;DR is my favorite segment now, right above Kpop Music Mondays. I love all of your stuff, though!

    I’ve heard a lot of people complain about hearing that their Korean is so good all the time. I think some people have a bad attitude about it, but yours is really good! I’m glad I’ve heard so much about it so I can kind of expect it when I go… I’m sure it’ll still get on my nerves, but at least I know ahead of time.

    5 years ago
  35. Thanks :D  You know, we didn’t mention the reactions our Non-Korean Korean friends get, but it’s very similar to your response.  We complain a bit about our position, but – from the stories we’ve been told – yours seems to be the bigger burden.

    5 years ago
  36. I think your last point is the most important one: language is a tool, albeit a shoddy one, to get the thoughts in your head into someone else’s head.  It’s not a social status.  In Korea, we have encountered many Korean people who speak English very well, but never speak it, because they’re worried – supposedly – that if they don’t speak it perfectly they will be thought of as less.  It’s better for them to not communicate, to maintain a distance and confusion, rather than risk the possibility of not seeming perfect in English.  Ah!

    5 years ago
  37. A few more questions… it seems like the concert atmosphere is very different in Korea vs. US. Is the majority of k-pop listeners girls? Do these idols have as crazy fans as they show in the dramas? How does the k-pop business work, exactly? It looks like singers sign up at an early age, train with an agency, and then get assigned into a group. Until when? What happens after they are no longer popular? Are they allowed to date while in a group?

    5 years ago
    • as a Korean girl,
      YES, majority of kpop listeners are GIRLS… boys only like female entertainers cos they are pretty…
      YES, fans are crazy and i think dramas showed the craziness in a mannerful way… in reality, ppl get injured while getting into the concert so they can see the celebrities closer… It’s WAR…

      In Kpop business I have to say I’m quite embarrassed about it…
      I mean, almost 90% of the “singers” seems to be just “dancers..” they don’t sing that well…
      (but they are really good groups but they’re few…)

      And In Korea, many groups are made and gone.. some disappears in a month or two..
      and when they are no longer popular, they have to go back to their miserable life…
      And this is not that complicated issue cos most of them aren’t really reconised by other ppl..

      And you may think they don’t date but they do. in secret ways…(as other girls say so..)

      5 years ago
  38. A few more questions… it seems like the concert atmosphere is very different in Korea vs. US. Is the majority of k-pop listeners girls? Do these idols have as crazy fans as they show in the dramas? How does the k-pop business work, exactly? It looks like singers sign up at an early age, train with an agency, and then get assigned into a group. Until when? What happens after they are no longer popular? Are they allowed to date while in a group?

    5 years ago
  39. I get attacked my Mexican mercenaries every morning on my way to the bus stop. When they realize I have trouble speaking they automatically assume I don’t understand Spanish, it’s annoying that my own culture alienates me ;~;

    5 years ago
  40. Would you guys actually recommend people to go live in Korea? Is it worth it? :D

    5 years ago
    • Oh yes!  It’s totally worth it!  Korea isn’t by any means perfect, but it’s still a great place to live in. We’re doing it, because we like it so much.

      5 years ago
  41. IAWTC.

    5 years ago
  42. So, I can relate in a weird way.  I”m white but I married a Mexican/Italian/Navajo man with a Spanish last name. I speak  enough Spanish to get by and everyone is accepting of that UNTIL they see me in person and I don’t “match” the image they have in their heads. 

    My daughters on the other hand look Mexican/Italian/Navajo/White mix but they speak Japanese and Korean because they like the cultures.  Again, they don’t match the mental image and conversation grinds to a halt for all of us because of this. I call this un-intentional racism because the intent isn’t malicious but there is a bit of homogenous thinking there.

    Of course, they also are routinely asked “what are you” and my youngest (if they are clearly racist) replies “human, what  are you?”  Pretty funny to watch that reaction.

    Oddly, we experience more racism from Korean-Americans than Koreans. When my youngest and I have attended K-Pop concerts in the US she is routinely asked if she is Korean adopted by Korean-Americans since she doesn’t look like me and speaks the language, has long straight black hair etc.  When she says no, these same people aren’t always very polite and they KNOW she understand what they are saying! The Koreans assume she isn’t and are welcoming and polite. Strange.

    Here in the US when I meet people for whom English is clearly not their first language, I slow down my speaking and take the time to listen carefully but never comment on the quality of their English.  Instead I show them  their English is good because I understand them.  The point of learning any language is to communicate not ridicule or quantify fluency level.  -sigh- 

    5 years ago
  43. I can say, as a “foreigner”, that people in USA got very surprised every time I opened my mouth and said more than three full sentences in a state where most spanish-speaking people could only say “thank you” and “one coffee, please”. And even after that, they tried to speak low and/or fast to make some comments they didn’t want me to understand, as if I wouldn’t be able to just because they didn’t pause every.single.word.

    Likewise, whenever I met a foreigner in my native country, both me and my friends felt compelled to congratulate them for their broken spanish and their willingness to try and make a conversation – but often it felt like taking to a child, and I know some of my friends would make comments about them right in FRONT OF THEM, which (as someone who’s been on that end of the stick) I found incredibly rude.

    5 years ago
  44. I can say, as a “foreigner”, that people in USA got very surprised every time I opened my mouth and said more than three full sentences in a state where most spanish-speaking people could only say “thank you” and “one coffee, please”. And even after that, they tried to speak low and/or fast to make some comments they didn’t want me to understand, as if I wouldn’t be able to just because they didn’t pause every.single.word.

    Likewise, whenever I met a foreigner in my native country, both me and my friends felt compelled to congratulate them for their broken spanish and their willingness to try and make a conversation – but often it felt like taking to a child, and I know some of my friends would make comments about them right in FRONT OF THEM, which (as someone who’s been on that end of the stick) I found incredibly rude.

    5 years ago
  45. I agree with the overall sentiment that, while that type of double-edged
    reaction is never meant in a mean way, single-minded reactions can be
    very patronizing regardless of where you’re from or what you look like.

    For instance, I am Korean adopted and grew up in the USA. My entire
    life, people have told me that my English is good. They ask where did I
    learn to speak and how long have I been living in the states. (“Oh
    aren’t you so cute! And you speak English!!” /grrr /facepalm). In fact, I
    find that people are extremely disappointed if I tell them which state
    I’m from rather than that I was born in Seoul, SK. Very often I am told
    how “ethnic” I am. It becomes annoying and patronizing when people
    assume I cannot speak English and that my personality will be aegyo;
    both assumptions are pretty horribly inaccurate! (I also have gotten
    extremely negative and racist reactions to my physical appearance in the
    US, but that’s a different topic).

    However, on the same note, most Koreans become very awkward around me
    when they learn that I do not speak Korean (beyond the basics). I think
    it’s because they feel like if you look Korean you should act Korean
    (just like if you don’t look Korean it’s a novelty if you act it). I’ve
    had Koreans insult me and talk about me in Korean, while I’m sitting
    right there, once they learn I’m adopted. I’ve had people get mad at me
    for not doing things according to Korean custom and try to teach me that
    I’m doing it “wrong”. (The worst was when I dated a Korean guy and his
    family hated that I didn’t “act right”. Stop scolding me like a child)!
    My Korean friends call me a “Twinkie” and introduce me around as a
    novelty, which I’ve often told them bothers me. I will note, though,
    that if Koreans make fun of me my Korean friends jump to my rescue with
    “Oh! She can’t help that she isn’t Korean! It’s not funny, it’s sad!
    She’ll learn”. The intent is not “mean” for most of these people, but
    the delivery is irritating.

    I kind of digress, sorry about that. I just wanted to throw in that I
    concur with your view that living with people treating you as a novelty
    can be quite aggravating! Stay strong and know that you’re broadening
    narrow horizons.  =D  Your insight into aspects of Korean culture is refreshing.

    5 years ago
  46. I always go into stores, markets, and restaurants with zeal and once I get up to the counter, am horribly reminded that I don’t speak Korean.  -_-

    But that won’t stop me!

    5 years ago
  47. isn’t it lovely panda???????????

    5 years ago
  48. to me, when i hear foreigner speacks korean, they looks soooo cute, and feel proud of our language.
    its kind of manner say “you speack Koran very good! ”  
    i’m living in AUS at the moment, sonetimes i heard same thing; “your english is good” but it feel like different with Korean. i think they said that, means “your english is better than that i thought”   anyway, you guys speck Korean sooo lovely~ especially Martina say Oppa~ kkk    have a good day:) 

    5 years ago
  49. Was the friend you were talking about on Running Man with you guys? Because I remember something exactly like that happening in the Nichkhun epi. (one of them). She was critiquing the food and she spoke to them fluently in Korean and they were all like’ WOW, You speak Korean really well’ right in the middle of her speech.

    P.S I was super stoked when I saw you on RM.

    5 years ago
  50. I first got interested in Korean culture because two of my best friends in high school were exchange students from Korea. I’m also very fascinated with languages and I would always ask them what certain words were in Korean, how to say some things, etc. What’s weird is that depending on who I asked they reacted very differently. 
    One girl would sit with me for twenty minutes happily correcting my pronunciation, while if I asked the other one, she would try to tell me once, then laugh at my attempt and change the subject. It was like she was uncomfortable having me “try out” her culture. So I think it really depends on the person and situation.
    BTW your videos are amazing, they have made me seriously consider teaching in Korea as well, keep up the good work!!

    5 years ago
  51. i find it really interesting that you guys experience this kind of thing, because i have a lot of friends who live in the US and get the same remarks. i live near san francisco and there it’s rare to hear some kind of “oh! you speak ______ really well” comment, because of how incredibly diverse the city is. but going out an hour or two into the other parts of the bay area means it gets a lot different. i have second generation mexican-american friends who will speak english to their customers at work and they’ll be told, “oh, your english is so good!” and it definitely IS patronizing, particularly when my friends were born and raised in america, speaking english all their lives. it surprises me that it happens in other countries too.

    5 years ago
  52. Hum… I went to a trip to argentine, and I can’t speak Spanish at all but because the language is a bit alike to mine (the sounds, words and all) we can understand what they say, we just can’t speak… but funny thing is, they make fun of us! We trying your best to be friendly and trying to speak in their language and all they told us was ”Next time come knowing the language, you need to learn our language before comming” WTH? And then started laughing and saying we should learn over and over again … since I understand their language but not when they speak too fast I asked the man to slow down a bit (he was a guide!)  And he said to me ”But I’m already speaking slow, more than this is impossible” and laughed in front of me, actually he was speaking pretty fast at times and confusing us… I believe he didn’t repeat again what he said when he asked him to, on purpose, because we should have to know their language…. It kinda of sucks…

    I think it’s rude the person laugh at you when you are trying to speak in their language… when you want to be friendly. Very rude.

    5 years ago
  53. Hum… I went to a trip to argentine, and I can’t speak Spanish at all but because the language is a bit alike to mine (the sounds, words and all) we can understand what they say, we just can’t speak… but funny thing is, they make fun of us! We trying your best to be friendly and trying to speak in their language and all they told us was ”Next time come knowing the language, you need to learn our language before comming” WTH? And then started laughing and saying we should learn over and over again … since I understand their language but not when they speak too fast I asked the man to slow down a bit (he was a guide!)  And he said to me ”But I’m already speaking slow, more than this is impossible” and laughed in front of me, actually he was speaking pretty fast at times and confusing us… I believe he didn’t repeat again what he said when he asked him to, on purpose, because we should have to know their language…. It kinda of sucks…

    I think it’s rude the person laugh at you when you are trying to speak in their language… when you want to be friendly. Very rude.

    5 years ago
  54. Hum… I went to a trip to argentine, and I can’t speak Spanish at all but because the language is a bit alike to mine (the sounds, words and all) we can understand what they say, we just can’t speak… but funny thing is, they make fun of us! We trying your best to be friendly and trying to speak in their language and all they told us was ”Next time come knowing the language, you need to learn our language before comming” WTH? And then started laughing and saying we should learn over and over again … since I understand their language but not when they speak too fast I asked the man to slow down a bit (he was a guide!)  And he said to me ”But I’m already speaking slow, more than this is impossible” and laughed in front of me, actually he was speaking pretty fast at times and confusing us… I believe he didn’t repeat again what he said when he asked him to, on purpose, because we should have to know their language…. It kinda of sucks…

    I think it’s rude the person laugh at you when you are trying to speak in their language… when you want to be friendly. Very rude.

    5 years ago
  55. Hum… I went to a trip to argentine, and I can’t speak Spanish at all but because the language is a bit alike to mine (the sounds, words and all) we can understand what they say, we just can’t speak… but funny thing is, they make fun of us! We trying your best to be friendly and trying to speak in their language and all they told us was ”Next time come knowing the language, you need to learn our language before comming” WTH? And then started laughing and saying we should learn over and over again … since I understand their language but not when they speak too fast I asked the man to slow down a bit (he was a guide!)  And he said to me ”But I’m already speaking slow, more than this is impossible” and laughed in front of me, actually he was speaking pretty fast at times and confusing us… I believe he didn’t repeat again what he said when he asked him to, on purpose, because we should have to know their language…. It kinda of sucks…

    I think it’s rude the person laugh at you when you are trying to speak in their language… when you want to be friendly. Very rude.

    5 years ago
  56. I had similar experiences in Japan, speaking Japanese. However, I learnt that if I follow a simple routine of “your Japanese is very good – oh no, I still have a lot to learn – oh, but it is – no, no, but thank you” the conversation usually goes back to where it was. Plus it only applies to people I meet for the first time. Do your Korean friends praise you for speaking Korean well whenever you open up your mouth? Now, that would be awkward…

    5 years ago
  57. I think it’s a common thing even between countries that speak the same language, I am from South America but moved to the caribbean and although I’ve been living here for half my life, when people find out I’m from another country they always comment on my accent (i.e. “Wow! really…but you don’t have the accent” <- Think American English vs Brittish English but with Spanish) My answer is always "I learned to speak in your accent to avoid getting pointed out like this".
    That's why when I watch Korean shows and someone starts speaking in Saturi, I can understand why  nobody really cares about what they are saying as much as they are amazed at the way it sounds.I guess we all just have to live with it…

    5 years ago
  58. I think it’s a common thing even between countries that speak the same language, I am from South America but moved to the caribbean and although I’ve been living here for half my life, when people find out I’m from another country they always comment on my accent (i.e. “Wow! really…but you don’t have the accent” <- Think American English vs Brittish English but with Spanish) My answer is always "I learned to speak in your accent to avoid getting pointed out like this".
    That's why when I watch Korean shows and someone starts speaking in Saturi, I can understand why  nobody really cares about what they are saying as much as they are amazed at the way it sounds.I guess we all just have to live with it…

    5 years ago
  59. I think it’s a common thing even between countries that speak the same language, I am from South America but moved to the caribbean and although I’ve been living here for half my life, when people find out I’m from another country they always comment on my accent (i.e. “Wow! really…but you don’t have the accent” <- Think American English vs Brittish English but with Spanish) My answer is always "I learned to speak in your accent to avoid getting pointed out like this".
    That's why when I watch Korean shows and someone starts speaking in Saturi, I can understand why  nobody really cares about what they are saying as much as they are amazed at the way it sounds.I guess we all just have to live with it…

    5 years ago
  60. *another note

    I guess you guys (simonandmartina) don’t understand what it is like when someone speaks your language because you guys speak english and almost everyone knows the language.(i said ALMOST everyone) It is when it is not one of the top 3 languages spoken that someone starts speaking in that people get surprised and are amazed.

    You guys feel that just because there are quite a few people who are foreigners living in Korea that do speak the language, most Koreans are aware that foreigners can speak the language but in reality, most people aren’t aware of that so when they do hear you korean, they are genuinly amazed.

    I am amazed when I hear african-americans speak spanish even though I know they could have learned it by the simple fact that they live in a city populated by spanish speakers. I am a “wow your Spanish is good” type of person lol

    5 years ago
  61. I guess that’s in any culture when a foreigner is joining in at events, but idk I am mexican-american and when foreigners start speaking the Spanish, at first it’s “oh wow you speak it well” but after it is alittle annoying. I really don’t know why but I suppose it is me secretly wanting Spanish to myself? like if more people can speak it, then your language is less unique? Idk

    It is also irritating when like the Koreans who work near the us/mexican border learn Spanish (not english) and they insult ME in SPANISH!! In MY language!!  It drives me nuts.

    But hey who wouldn’t want to learn a language? If it is being taught, learn. Besides, learning is free =)

    5 years ago
  62. The whole being surprised thing is one point that annoys me a tiny bit. It gets on my nerves when Koreans are always surprised to see KPop known around the world. I mean not like it’s huge everywhere but you will find fans in every country and Korean media/artists seem so surprised like they never thought their music/culture would be known outside of korea/asia. We live in a time of internet and news spread around in seconds. I just don’t get why they are being so surprised. I would understand it when it a few years back when the internet was still improving/in progress but now … it’s called globalisation~ Sorry for the rant :P

    5 years ago
  63. K.

    It’s the same in Japan. You can say the simplest thing in Japanese and the response is always, “WOW YOUR JAPANESE IS SO GOOD ZOMG HOW DID YOU EVER LEARN OUR MYSTICAL AND COMPLICATED LANGUAGE>@*(#&@&^# *head explodes*.” You get this and also, “Wow!! You use chopsticks very well!!! Better than me!! How did you learn to use chopsticks!!?!? HOW!?!? *head explodes again*”

    But you gotta take it all in stride. And like you guys said, it’s not malicious. Just ignorance, really. And North American’s are guilty of it too. “Oh you lived in China?” No, it was Japan. “Well same thing.”

    FALSE. -_-

    5 years ago
    • LOL OMG I totally get that when talking to my friends about South Korea. They’ll be like “Oh yeah, you said you wanted to move to Vietnam right?” And I’m like “No….. South Korea…..” *facepalm* And when I post K-Pop vids on Facebook, I know for a fact some of my friends think they’re Japanese vids lol

      4 years ago
  64. I’m a vampire too. D: Sun is ebil!!!!

    5 years ago
  65. This is very interesting because I’m a 1.5 gen Korean-Canadian immigrant, and I’ve experienced exactly the same reaction living here in Canada, especially in the early years.  Yes, the reminders are subtler and less frequent here, which is given since I live in Vancouver, where practically everyone’s a foreigner. In fact I had a born-and-raised-in-Vancouver-only friend who felt isolated since she wasn’t “from” anywhere like everyone else.

    Anyway, thanks for the very interesting and informative post, TLDR’s becoming my favourite segment.

    5 years ago
  66. This is very interesting because I’m a 1.5 gen Korean-Canadian immigrant, and I’ve experienced exactly the same reaction living here in Canada, especially in the early years.  Yes, the reminders are subtler and less frequent here, which is given since I live in Vancouver, where practically everyone’s a foreigner. In fact I had a born-and-raised-in-Vancouver-only friend who felt isolated since she wasn’t “from” anywhere like everyone else.

    Anyway, thanks for the very interesting and informative post, TLDR’s becoming my favourite segment.

    5 years ago
  67. Just wanted to say, from a Korean’s perspective, you guys are 100% right on this issue. I agree with you that Koreans, while not being malicious, tend to get very impressed when a non-Korean speaks their language even just a little. I guess it’s because Koreans are still not that used to having foreigners (I hate this term) living around them. So, my apologies on behalf of my race, if you were offended at all by our attitude. Keep up the good work, Martina and Simon! I’ve been watching your videos for quite awhile now, and I must say, you guys do really try to keep an objective voice. Thanks for all your hard work!!! 

    p.s. Has Spudgy been extra frisky lately? lol I’m just thinking it’s time he met a nice girlfriend…

    5 years ago
  68. Just wanted to say, from a Korean’s perspective, you guys are 100% right on this issue. I agree with you that Koreans, while not being malicious, tend to get very impressed when a non-Korean speaks their language even just a little. I guess it’s because Koreans are still not that used to having foreigners (I hate this term) living around them. So, my apologies on behalf of my race, if you were offended at all by our attitude. Keep up the good work, Martina and Simon! I’ve been watching your videos for quite awhile now, and I must say, you guys do really try to keep an objective voice. Thanks for all your hard work!!! 

    p.s. Has Spudgy been extra frisky lately? lol I’m just thinking it’s time he met a nice girlfriend…

    5 years ago
  69. As annoying as it can be to having the constant comments about how good you’re speaking Korean or how you should learn more.  It’s far better then being discriminated against because you’re not fluent. I’ve hear in France that they will ignore you if you don’t speak enough french to ask them in french.

    5 years ago
    • The worst thing about France is that they do speak English…but if you don’t make even a token effort at French they will pretend they don’t speak English and make you try to communicate the other way.  I’ve seen this happen SO many times to where I would walk up and be like, “Where are you trying to go?” while shooting the other person an evil eye. They just grin.  Granted I only have conversational French but that meant I never had to say more than a sentence before we switched to English.

      5 years ago
  70. Vic

    lol loved how it ended on the note of : Also known as a psychopath …. who wants to bet Simon editted this vid ? LOL 

    Apart from that I can understand how you feel.  I’m half viet and speak a lil bit of viet.  Cause I look so much more western viet people are like. Wow! your Vietnamese is good! all the time. 
    Then later they are like you should learn more…. >..<

    5 years ago
  71. Here in Vancouver there’s a large Korean population, especially where I live. At school you always hear Korean conversations in the halls and a lot of people (non-Koreans, but still mostly Asians) listen to K-Pop, watch K-Dramas, etc. – most people will at least know who SNSD and stuff are. But sometimes people still get surprised when they hear that I can read and write in Korean, and that I speak a little bit; even though there’s a lot of people who can because they listen to K-Pop and watch K-Dramas stuff. It’s happening less and less now that the Hallyu is spreading more though. But maybe because I haven’t tried lengthy conversations (and because I’m not actually in Korea) I haven’t gotten the “why don’t you learn more?” question. 

    Anyway, great episode this week! :D

    5 years ago
  72. Here in Vancouver there’s a large Korean population, especially where I live. At school you always hear Korean conversations in the halls and a lot of people (non-Koreans, but still mostly Asians) listen to K-Pop, watch K-Dramas, etc. – most people will at least know who SNSD and stuff are. But sometimes people still get surprised when they hear that I can read and write in Korean, and that I speak a little bit; even though there’s a lot of people who can because they listen to K-Pop and watch K-Dramas stuff. It’s happening less and less now that the Hallyu is spreading more though. But maybe because I haven’t tried lengthy conversations (and because I’m not actually in Korea) I haven’t gotten the “why don’t you learn more?” question. 

    Anyway, great episode this week! :D

    5 years ago
  73. Here in Vancouver there’s a large Korean population, especially where I live. At school you always hear Korean conversations in the halls and a lot of people (non-Koreans, but still mostly Asians) listen to K-Pop, watch K-Dramas, etc. – most people will at least know who SNSD and stuff are. But sometimes people still get surprised when they hear that I can read and write in Korean, and that I speak a little bit; even though there’s a lot of people who can because they listen to K-Pop and watch K-Dramas stuff. It’s happening less and less now that the Hallyu is spreading more though. But maybe because I haven’t tried lengthy conversations (and because I’m not actually in Korea) I haven’t gotten the “why don’t you learn more?” question. 

    Anyway, great episode this week! :D

    5 years ago
  74. this reflects my feeling as well

    5 years ago
  75. I can’t wait to move to Korea.  I have been diligently learning the language and have the opportunity to speak to other Koreans in America quite often.  The lady at the Bulgogi place I frequent has made the comment twice that I may be Irish on the outside but she’s convinced I’m FULL Korean on the inside.  Of course this is based on my use of the language when speaking to her, bringing my own Korean chopsticks and the fact that I am addicted to Korean foods (I have make Korean food at home at least 4 or 5 nights per week).  Some of my Korean friends have accused me of being ‘more Korean’ than they are!  LOL

    5 years ago
  76. I can’t wait to move to Korea.  I have been diligently learning the language and have the opportunity to speak to other Koreans in America quite often.  The lady at the Bulgogi place I frequent has made the comment twice that I may be Irish on the outside but she’s convinced I’m FULL Korean on the inside.  Of course this is based on my use of the language when speaking to her, bringing my own Korean chopsticks and the fact that I am addicted to Korean foods (I have make Korean food at home at least 4 or 5 nights per week).  Some of my Korean friends have accused me of being ‘more Korean’ than they are!  LOL

    5 years ago
  77. I had very similar experiences to what you described.  When I did anything cultural, my experiences were always fun & favourable (I had a similar World Cup experience in 2006).  Speaking Korean was mixed but generally very favourable – I used to get extra fruit in the market and good deals in Dongdaemun – but occasionally  someone would question why Korean wasn’t better.  It’s hard when your job is to speak English all the time.  But I loved my time in Korea and reading/watching your posts often bring back happy memories :)

    5 years ago
  78. When I was in Korea, I found that if I made an effort to learn about Korean culture or speak the language, people were very accepting and helpful.  They were surprised of course, mainly because I am not Korean,  but they were happy that I was trying.
    I find that when you travel to a country where the culture and language is different than yours, if you make an effort to learn about them, people treat you a lot differently.  They are more kind, accepting, and respectful.  You can not travel somewhere and NOT make an effort to learn about that country, your entire experience there will change once you start to know about their history, culture and language.
    My time in Korea was one of the best and I can’t wait until I can go back.

    5 years ago
  79. When I was in Korea, I found that if I made an effort to learn about Korean culture or speak the language, people were very accepting and helpful.  They were surprised of course, mainly because I am not Korean,  but they were happy that I was trying.
    I find that when you travel to a country where the culture and language is different than yours, if you make an effort to learn about them, people treat you a lot differently.  They are more kind, accepting, and respectful.  You can not travel somewhere and NOT make an effort to learn about that country, your entire experience there will change once you start to know about their history, culture and language.
    My time in Korea was one of the best and I can’t wait until I can go back.

    5 years ago
  80. I’m a lazy person but I love learning languages. I know Russian, Engish and I was studying Chinese and Japanese and now I’m learning Korean ^^ But because that I’m lazy I can’t learn it perfectly..and it’s killing me but I can’t do something about it… ^^

    5 years ago
  81. Omo, Simon was so (over-) hyped today..! I got scared at times ^^

    5 years ago
  82. Ok mb it’s because I’m not actually living in Korea (planning to do so tho) but am outside of it and am learning korean, but I have had a very different experience with speaking korean. I had a a korean women as a customer in cafeteria where I’m working and when I asked her where she’s from (just to confirm and not be rude by speaking korean when she’s not) and she asked me if I know where is Korea, and then i said to her in korean that i do know, and that i do speak a little bit of korean, and of course she was baffled and she was practically shouting in joy about how my korean is good and that she got goosebumps, but after that she did start to ask me if I know SNSD and say that i definitely should come to Korea and that I will really like it. And I had pretty much similar experiences when people tried to actually engage in a conversation and try to know me more. But once again mb it’s just because it was outside of Korea, mb if  it would happen in Korea they would be more demanding or treat me more as an outsider. I hope it’s going to be the same in Korea.

    5 years ago
    • Sometimes people in countries that don’t speak their native language get overexcited about hearing it due to familiarity and ease of use. I spent a while in Japan and, while my Japanese is good, it was always a bit of a relief to be able to speak in English since it’s easier to express myself.

      5 years ago
  83. Yay for more outside videos! :3

    5 years ago
  84. Yay for more outside videos! :3

    5 years ago
  85. Spudgy owl is the cutest thing ever. When are you going to sell plushies of him!?!

    5 years ago