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Hay! You Nice Nasties: we have to apologize to you for the long disclaimers when we do serious videos like this. We’re sorry if it’s annoying. Honestly, it annoys us to no end, and it makes filming videos like this very difficult for us. But, if we don’t put these disclaimers up, then we get harassed by idiots with a lethal combination of:

+ self-appointed Justice Police badge
+ horrendous listening comprehension skills
+ love of taking things out of context
+ passion for getting offended

The problem is that stupid commenters turn our comment section into a huge fight between viewers, and we’d rather people take the time to leave awesome/intelligent comments. There is no problem with disagreeing with what we’re saying, just do it AFTER you actually watch the video and without so much profanity! YAY!

So, now that that’s out of the way, Hello Nice Nasties! Thank you for keeping us sane! We’re here today talking about sexism in Korea, and we’re sharing our experiences on the matter. We’re fortunate enough to be in a situation in which we don’t have to deal with it often. We have our own business, created our own work environment, and have our own staff. In fact, majority of our staff is female. It’s only the animals that are male in the studio (ha!). We don’t have any bosses that overlook what we’re doing, and so we’re free to be in our own little creative internet bubble, so we’re not really the best source of stories of sexism in Korea, though – like we mentioned in the video – we have experienced it, but only when we dealt with other companies.

A couple of things we didn’t mention in the video.

1) If you really want to understand Korean culture, you’ll need to do a lot of reading on Confucianism. Luckily for me, I (Martina) studied both English and East Asian Philosophy for five years in University, and both Simon and I studied world religion, so we knew what we were getting into when we moved to Korea. Understanding the Confucian value system will help you better understand why Korea is so patriarchal and respectful of their elders. The problem that I think is happening is that modern Korea is in a struggle to keep the positive aspect of it’s Confucian ways alive, while still changing some of the more antiquated values, such as the role of women in society.

2) We didn’t know how to talk about it in an easily digestible video format, is an experience one of our friends had at work. She and her team work on computers all day in the office. One day they got a new manager, a dude. First day of his reign as manager, he had a staff meeting in which he told all of the women that they had to dress prettier and wear more makeup. A few things:

1) HOW THE EFF DOES THAT EFFECT WRITING STUFF ON THE COMPUTER?
2) How was he not fired immediately for being such a pig?
3) HOW MUCH DID I WANT HIM TO SAY THAT TO MY FACE!!! *Martina flexes*

We were totally appalled when we heard it, as was our friend. Now, we haven’t worked for companies in other parts of the world, so we don’t know if this would be acceptable where you’re from, nor do we know if this is a common occurrence in Korea or not, but that wouldn’t fly in Canada.

This is just an anecdote, and that’s really all we can offer when we talk about this. There are sites online that can tell you more about sexism in Korea, where they can give you stats and whatnot. Stories we tell or stories our friends tell us aren’t representative of Korea as a whole. We could just have had some odd experiences, after all, so we can’t form conclusions off of what happened to us. It’s the same reason I don’t like talking about my terrible experience at my school. I don’t want people thinking that all schools in Korea are bad, and – in this case – we don’t want people thinking that all companies in Korea are like this.

We have heard, though, different stories from different people about staff dinners in which women are expected to pour drinks for men. Can anyone corroborate this? We don’t know anything about it, but we heard about it here and there and want to know if you’ve experienced anything like this, and how you feel about it.

One thing we didn’t mention, though, and we’re not sure if it’s relevant or not, but we’re happy that Korea has a female president. We’re not saying anything about her policies. We don’t follow politics enough to know how she’s doing. We’re just happy to see a woman as president. It sets a good example, not only for people in Korea but also for the rest of the world.

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  1. Da_Vinchi

    M, when i was visiting South Korea just for a short term i did a lot of research and also experienced thous dinners (i was going with dance group to participate in festival and we had to attend dinner with sponsors that was paying for our hotel) – in our case we where doing that exchange in pouring a drink no matter of gender and age (all thou i knew the rules because did some research before going there), so didn’t had that experience for someone to wait that i pour the drink just because I’m women…
    Have ever in my home country (i came from northern Europe – Latvia) it’s axially completely other way a round – if there is some dinner/ party or what ever event and there is at least one men there – he must pour alcoholic drinks to women…

  2. Ahh the wrist grab in dramas gets me too! Actually the hubby and I kid around that he needs to snap me around like that. And I will do the Korean drama girl whine that they do. You know what I mean!

  3. Dawn-Marie

    I personally enjoy some kpop (BAP as a favorite block b and big bang close behind) but i simply cannot STAND most all girl groups. Personally my opinion of females in media in asia is low because in north america girls typically can be tough or be portrayed as independent whatever. In asia it seems like girl groups are allergic to being rough and tumble. What i mean is i cant enjoy a music video because they cant dance in the high heels they have to wear so they just like two step the whole time
    And wear these sparkly girly things all the time. I love how hardcore bap is even if they show a softer side, id love to see a girl group go ciara style and start breakdancing or hardcore rapping. The demure kills me if someone can find me a badass girl group please assist!

    Probably the only thing we beat asia at is women being powerful. The men can do both and are really sexy so we dont win that….
    Asia:300,099,001
    Us: 1
    Started from the bottom now we here

  4. Not sure if it’s Sexism, but I’m watching some TV variety shows and such, and I feel so annoyed when the guys give the girls easier objectives / competition, compared to the guys. Although I am a guy myself, I just don’t see how this is fair for both genders.

  5. About club bouncers grabbing girls by the wrists and pulling them into clubs..
    Yeah, I can definitely understand that Korean girls may be unwilling to walk into clubs on their own because they may appear “slutty”.

    So bouncers may have started “helping” the girls into the clubs.
    Which evolved into their grabbing pretty girls and bringing them in.
    But it’s distasteful nonetheless. Needs to change.

  6. Aesha Mahdi

    I am of dark skin and learning korean and really into kpop, so you guys where saying, would i be picked on because off my skin color? Also I love watching all of your videos! 사랑 ❤❤❤

  7. Wow, what great discussions about gender identities, gender issues, and sexism on here. I hope you all spread your positive and progressive thinking. And it is all marked by quite a bit of cultural sensitivity, lack of finger pointing, and gender theory. The nasties are a wonderful community.

  8. Scott Harris

    I have lived with 10+ koreans (guys) in australia, and when I challenge them on NOT being messy & to CLEAN the kitchen/bathroom etc., they say, “When I get married, that is my wife’s job.” :-O

  9. Scott Harris

    smoking IS disgusting.

  10. Regarding your club dragging story. I’ve noticed that a similar thing applies in Japan. My friends have told me stories, when they have been in Kabukicho hosts will leave the foreign girls completely alone. Which make since, given the difference in culture the way a young women from the, let say, US would react vs a Japanese women. I also think gender roles are one of the things foreigners living abroad will never fully accept or understand because though ideas have been ingrained in us from a young age.

  11. On pouring drinks for men:

    I actually experienced this in the UK while doing promotional work for an internet-based Japanese language company. After a long day work at a huge expo where we were on our feet all day promoting the service, the boss took us out for dinner. There were six of us in total, 4 men and two women. I was the only non-Japanese there.

    Everyone sat down, ordered food and chatted until our drinks arrived. Usually in the UK (but not always) the waiters will pour your drinks into the glasses they bring, but this was a Japanese-run restaurant and so the glass and bottle of beer was just placed together on the table. The other girl picked up the bottle from her side of the table and started pouring for the men near her while I happily poured my own drink unaware.

    I was sat next to the boss and the girl suddenly starts eyeing me up, nodding her head to his empty glass. I was so confused and after suddenly realising shouted “OH!” and started to pour his drink. Everyone laughed and it no offence was caused. It was another lesson really :)

    When I went to live in Japan for a bit, I noticed this a lot more and simple things like dinner saw the men sitting back and relaxing while the good wife made sure his drink was topped up and rice bowl full. He also got first pick of the food and first to leave the table. This is – of course – not an example of every Japanese family but a few dinners at friends from my school saw this process repeat a few times.

    But yeah. I’ve seen wives rush to the door when he gets home from work to set down their husband’s house slippers so he can simply walk into them straight away.

  12. Martina, I wanna shake your hand =) You’re awesome!

  13. I have heard from a Korean-American friend that there are designated clubs that groups of Korean girls knowingly go to, to get grabbed…

  14. QueenieCaffeinated.

    Hey Simon and Martina, A Kenyan nasty here. I have waited for so long for someone to bring up this question. In Kenya, we do have sexism but not up to the levels described in your video. Women are still expected to choose between a career and starting a family and there is unequal pay among the sexes across most major industries.

    The whole drink pouring bit is… a bit insane but that was rampant not too long ago. My dad (God bless him) worked in an office where it was normal to ask women to serve the coffee and tea and stuff during tea breaks. Of course he did not see what the problem was as this is the way things were when he was in his 30’s. If you tried that at my office, you will get cut (LOL!).

    I find your friends incident with her assy male co-worker… SO. WEIRD. Men out here cannot comment on your dressing. That would start a riot. Whatchutalkmbout dress prettier? That’s crazy talk. Haha!

    We also have a bit of that whole “your wife will be ignored during business meetings”. It’s like you don’t have a mind of your own. This is very rare and only happens when you do business with people of the older generations. The Kenyan societal structure has similarities with the Korean ones in that we show respect to our elders and women are still considered weaker than their male counter parts but it is not terribly awful.

  15. I think you guys should do a Tl dr on the plastic surgery mentality in Korea and how it has effected perceptions of beauty in South Korea as well as criticisms of the new standard of beauty. This could also probably be attributed to sexism in Korea as well

    • k4ttikatt

      Doctors push sales just like a salesperson would do in any other business, except that we tend to automatically think that a doctor would have our best interest at heart— which isn’t always true. A big part of American influence on Korea is the spread of capitalism, and this affects the prevalence of plastic surgery in Korea. Plastic surgeons push their patients to receive way more procedures than they came in for and it’s easy to prey on insecure people. Korean people are learning how to make an income in today’s billionaire world and that just means pushing their products and hustling each other.

  16. Watching this TL:DR reminds me of a story my sister told me:She and her boyfriend at the time were visiting Argentina. And even though she knew more Spanish than he did and therefore could converse with the people more fluently, the people there would direct all questions and comments to him.

  17. I totally agree with the part where you guys mentioned how girls are always dragged by guys in Korean dramas. Apparently some Korean guys I know think this is a way of showing their masculinity, but after all it is definitely not the right way to treat women.

    And I actually had this experience where I was talking to a guy in a club in Korea and when I playfully smacked him on his chest (and believe me I am not strong at all), he literally recoiled and he just kept on saying girls should not be that strong, so I believe Korean males have this mindset of needing to be super tough and expecting women to just look pretty and be dependent on guys.

  18. Wasn’t Rooftop Prince had a female led who dragged the guy? O:

  19. Brazil also has a female president, And I confess that does makes me feel proud…

  20. River Lu

    Oh my god… Why are koreans so dramatic???

    • k4ttikatt

      Koreans love everything dramatic because it’s a sign of confidence. You gotta have some balls to wear sequins and dance like you’re humping a giant pistachio (*ahem* PSY). Apparently, messages are more poignant when they’re done in over-the-top style: for example, korean dramas where everyone you like dies and everyone kills each other and wants to steal each other’s boyfriends and girlfriends— and there are revenge storylines, and high school kids drive porches to act like douches. Artistic skill is easily demonstrated by going the dramatic route over anything else. Makeup, acting, dancing, painting, blah blah…. etc.

  21. I think you guys are awesome, and ALWAYS extremely careful and kind about what you have to say. Even when it’s a touchy subject, you guys cover it wonderfully and I enjoy every second of your videos ♥

  22. designer2327

    I find the term “woman belongs to a man” VERY problematic, with very being and understatement, but coming from the perspective of someone who is from another culture (cuban) and seriously almost married a Korean man I find that this is something that many cultures follow even if they don’t directly or openly admit it.

    My mother being a very liberal woman compared with the rest of my cuban family has unknowingly taught me to treat a man to think you belong to him, so let him think he does even if you not. I’ve trying to explain to her how wrong it is to continue that behave but she doesn’t understand. To her that is the way you need to treat a man and there is no other way.

    And on another note, again, just from my own experience I can’t speak for anyone else, but I will say that one of the reasons why I didn’t marry the korean guy I was dating was because of the way he was treating me. Not that this happened often, but he didn’t seem to understand that I have my own job and career that was very important to me. I mean I have serious and so far successful career in costume design. I just got a offered a full ride to attend grad school, but to him the idea of me going far away for a job, which is the typical life for a designer to be based in one place but be designing in many different places. He would tell me I can’t go away for the summer to work or take too many jobs far away and that it was more important to stay close to him and take care of him than it was to go a away for a little while and take a once in a lifetime opportunity. This is something I expect people who don’t work in theatre to have a hard time understanding, but after years of expressing this to him he still expected me to give up my career for him. Then when we finally did break up he would constantly show up at my home, text me, call me, show up at my work, etc to tell me that I should come back. I tried to tell him I was seriously not coming back and he would ignore what I say and follow me again after a few days. As if I wasn’t serious it was over. I finally had to call the cops to get him to understand how serious I was.

    Again sorry for the rant, but that was my experience and I can say that I’m very turned off to the idea of dating a korean man again, because of this. I would like to know if anyone else had any issues with when it comes to women having careers in korean culture.

  23. Sara Farooquee

    I hate to sound cliche but can you talk about the “dirty old Korean man card”. I have been yelled at multiple times but old Korean men for speaking English, and multiple times been grabbed by the men. One time I was in a cafe where I knew owner and manager and when I reported having my bum being pinched as I was waiting in line, the manager just said “Oh he’s an old man”. So that makes it ok? Does this happen to Koreans as well? I know in Western countries that when someone comes forward with a serious complaint like that they are listened to.

  24. Bita Rafat

    OMG Martina there is a drama where the female drags the man away it’s sooooooooo hilarious her character is a strong women who doesnt take shit from anyone. And actually it a bit of a satire, it makes fun of all the stereotypes you see in kdramas. Drama’s are so boring to me cause they’re so predictable. Anyway it’s called Protect the Boss, maybe you already saw it cause Jaejoong is in it but in case you didnt well then there you go. OH and i love the the spoiled little rich girl who causes trouble cause eventually she becomes friends with the female lead. This drama is hilarious.

  25. My 2 Cents…(BTW I JUST now realized they have gotten rid of the cent sign off the keyboard…it was my favorite key to press when I was growing up…but I digress…)
    $00.01= Ohmygawd…Martina is wearing Daesung’s sweater but in pink instead of blue!!!!! CUTENESS!!!
    $00.02= I have a Korean-American friend who grew up in the States never visited Korea until University. Her family did NOT keep tot eh traditional Korean culture at ALL, so she didn’t know any of the customs before going. Within the first month she was told by her Grandfather that she was never going to get married to a Korean man, because no man in his right mind would want a hussy like her. She asked what made her a hussy and the response she got was this, “You speak when no one has asked you a question, you don’t know how to cook, and you seem to think you are as smart as a Korean man!” That night she called her mother (who is full blooded Korean) and told her she totally understood why she left Korea!

  26. Christine McMeowzer

    Now that you guys are crazy famous (or maybe just a little crazy) have you ever been stalked or had a fan do something you found a little creepy perhaps? Are there things that fans do in Korea that we would consider ..um odd in the west?

  27. Holy snap this has a lot of comments!

  28. often i watch korean ‘reality’ shows where korean idols (male in particular) seem incredibly innocent, like for example when a foreign woman in a bikini walks by they act shocked and embarrassed, even if they’re adults. i find it hard to believe that adults, especially ones who travel around the world a lot, grow up to be so innocent, assuming it’s not an act. it makes me wonder about sex ed in korea. is it taught in high schools, or do people pretend it doesn’t happen except in married life? what’s the general consensus on that part of a relationship?

  29. I love watching these videos because even if they are only your experiences, they’re still real, genuine experiences! And I wish all the haters would realize that because I get very impatient for the first minute or so of your TL;DR videos when you always have to mention disclaimers to idiots who don’t understand what a personal opinion is.

    Moving on, I’m hoping that there are at least a few positive aspects of this behavior, right? I’m not saying yay to sexism but I mean not all men are chauvinist pigs all the time. If they were, they’d soon realize the error of their ways when their no-no’s get so sore from so many kicks to the balls.

    I have a boyfriend from China and he always tries to take care of me (in both a caring and sometimes patronizing way). He likes to cook for me a lot (I’m not complaining about this part), he always carries things instead of making me do it, and he ALWAYS has to try pay for everything (sometimes I let him; sometimes I don’t). He genuinely cares for me and my well-being and taking into consideration my 5 foot tall height and minuscule amount of muscle strength, he sometimes treats my like a little glass figurine that could shatter any second. Despite this, I’ve let him know that I’m stronger than I may seem (in terms of will power and mental strength) and that I’m his girlfriend, someone he should respect and treat as an equal and not a baby for him to constantly coo and watch over. He’s acknowledged this and definitely gives me just as much respect as I give him.

    I’m sure there are men like this in Korea: men who care for and take care of their lady in more ways than just one. I know there are! Not personally, but I know that there must be. So I was hoping you guys would’ve mentioned a story about how this kind of attitude could be good in one way or another.

    But anyway, I still love you guys and what you do soooo much and no matter how much idiotic and undeserved hate you guys receive from morons out there, I will always support you guys 100% because you guys are doing what you love to do and what I want to do. Fighting Martina and Simon! <3

  30. Laney Shaw

    Simon and Martina… Are there any North American products that you really miss, now that you are living in Korea?

  31. say i was actually the other day at the park here in korea in Guanju actually and i happend to see a couple playing, (pitching with a tennis ball) and when it was the guys turn he would do it so soft and easy for her to be able to catch the ball! she was lame in my opinion but they look kind of cute in a very very very childish way…anyway she got hit, not hard at all! and well it was funny to see her going all apoo apoo opa chincha apo!!! ITS A TENNIS BALL!! yeah why is it that not ALL but lots of korean girls like to look fragile and weak?? i dont get it! ohh and i actually got pulled by the arm at a club once! i had no idea what was going on! i was new to korea!! and the bartender sat my behind at a table full of boys asking me where in the states i was from, while they were giving drinks (that i didn’t take by the way) anyway i am much i agree with what CYNOSURE has said! you guys are doing a DOBRA ROBOTA! WELL DONE guys really :) hugs from SPAIN!

  32. The sheer number of weak, submissive female characters in KDramas is the reason why I don’t watch them anymore.

    I know all about the sexist pitfalls that come with being born female and Asian. The expectation is that you work hard at school, go to a good college, do well for yourself, then drop everything to take care of your husband and children. Luckily, my mom is a pretty liberal-minded single mom, so she doesn’t put too much weight on gender roles. Her father, actually, instilled a very independent, self-sufficient trait in her and her sister, which I’m very grateful for.

    However, I’ve seen in other Asian moms in my life who have reserved themselves to this meek female role. They depend on other men to dictate their lives, and suddenly they act like sad, lost puppies when the men and the control they had are gone.

    I hate seeing weak women in general. I hate seeing weak Asian women even more. I feel like there should be a revolutionary movement of some sort where more and more Asian women are rejecting the outdated patriarchal values. I want to see strong, NORMAL female characters in Asian dramas, I want female leaders whose qualifications won’t be questioned simply because they don’t have families, and I want the men to start viewing the women as their equal.

    I really really enjoyed this TLDR. I love it when you guys address serious topics and offer your honest opinions. It’s healthy to take an objective approach to the Asian culture sometimes.

  33. I’m late to this party as usual, so I’ll likely repeat what someone else has already said. But what the heck, you’ve been waiting to hear from the old fart Peace Corps Korea volunteer who’s married into a Korean family, right? So, yes, Martina and SImon, good observations, as always. To my eye, Korea is a matriarchy where the men don’t realize or acknowledge the fact. I think this has always been so, but the recent (since the end of the Occupation, roughly) rapid development has meant a transition from farming communities, where Confucianism has its roots, to apartment life in huge cities, where Confucianism gets really confused. I think the Koreans will figure it out, and won’t Westernize but will come up with an urban Korean culture that will be interesting.

    In the language, there are really very few pronouns that are used at all, very little gender-based language, and women do not change their names upon marriage, traditionally. However, upon marriage the bride’s name is removed from her original family register (where all Korean vital statistics are kept) and written into the groom’s family register. This is not a hard rule, as I, coming from a place impoverished in terms of family registers, was written into my wife’s register by my very kind mother-in-law. My place of origin has still its struggles…my great-grandmother had a 4th grade education, married at age 17 or so, lived in a one-room dirt floor cabin with no plumbing for a lot of her life, and ran a bar in the Broad Ripple area of Indianapolis for most of her life, including when it was illegal. Nevertheless, while she was arrested and jailed on three occasions, it wasn’t for the bar – it was for marching for the vote.

    So, with that in mind, Pak Kunhye’s election as president was something wonderful to my mind. Korea does have a tradition of strong female leadership. During the Occupation, there was a significant Resistance group in the Manchurian city of Halbin (funded in part by Prince Pooyo, I learned from one of his accountants) that was largely of and by women. People have already started referring to President Pak as the mother of the country, a term that was applied to her mother as well, and to Queen Myoungsung in the late 1800s. That both of those women were assassinated is somewhat ominous, although Myoungsung, courageous woman that she was, knew that her efforts to stave off the Occupation would likely end in her death. A brave woman.

    All that said, I certainly agree with you guys about some of the k-drama tropes, the wrist-grab especially. I don’t recall seeing any of that in dramas with Kim Sun-ah, for example, though – City Hall,My Name is Kim Samsoon, that museum one – and for that matter, Ha Ji-won doesn’t seem to allow that either….she’d likely flatten anyone who tried.

    A problem in Korean workplace and employment is gender and age bias. Companies want new hires to be young, they do not welcome someone who changes companies in their thirties, and in the forties it gets nearly impossible. Things can get pretty scary if you’re pushing 40, female, and your company goes under.

    So, there’s the word from the old fart – thanks again, guys, I’m not the only old Peace Corps/Korea vol who follows you and appreciates your work.

    • Lovely insight!

      I agree about Kim Sun Ah and Ha Ji Won ( except for a bit in Secret Garden when I wished she would be a bit more assertive at some points in time) this is why I adore those two actresses.

  34. Wow Korea is so sexiest and terrible, my country is the best!

    sry just had to say that

  35. I was actually really happy to see Park Geun Hye step up to be the first Korean female president. I’ve only recently heard about it but I really hope she will be able to overturn Korea’s sexist issues and create an image of a powerful Korean woman. Does anyone know how the Korean people (the men, to be specific) reacted to the news though? I can somehow picture them saying things that no one should ever be allowed to say about her. I really hope things like that didn’t happen but I have a feeling that it did…. By the way, that thing with the clubs and bouncers is seriously fucked up. If they did that to me, I’d whip out a can of kungfu on their asses! No one should be forced against their wills, especially going into a nightclub!

    • yuki kokoro

      Why?? It’s not only men that can be sexist! Why do you thing she’s against sexism just because she’s a woman?? It’s not me who think so, many many Korean people think she’s sexist. Look her up please.

  36. *SERIOUS QUESTION ALERT* I notice a major concern for Korea at the moment is teenage suicides over bullying or stress from the competition to get into college, how do you guys as foreiners in Korea view that and how do the actual Korean community feel about this?

  37. michiehaha87

    Wow that wrist pulling thing reminded me of the bride kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan, the groom just goes with a group of men to kidnap the girl he wants to marry on the day he IS going to marry her, his family completes the preparations and he goes off to kidnap his bride, when the girl comes back, his mom and aunts will try to calm the wailing girl and put a white cloth in her head, which means acceptance of their fate. Pretty freaky, but its crazy how some cultures accept thins kinds of things, interesting too.

    Awesome video, I really love the editing! :D

  38. Hey, this pretty much has nothing to do with all the sexism topic (because I don’t know enough and only really have biased opinions) but it’s about the female president. Did you know that she is not the first ever female president? In fact San Marino has had the most female presidents. It does help with showing the world but it really only helps the country. I’m pretty sure South Korea didn’t care that Chile had it’s first female president and actually earn the country a lot of money during her presidency. I’m also positive that they didn’t care that Argentina has had two and China has female rulers as well. It really does only virtually effect the country on it’s own. So for that, I am glad that they do have a women president, it will help them try to change as they become less of a homogenous society. Let’s face it, it’s a growing economy and many are seeing opportunities on doing business or moving to South Korea when before they wouldn’t. They still have a long way to go, so I can see how some may have issues with how you treated the subject. It’s a hard subject to touch upon.

    Recently in my own religion there was a complain that women were made to wear skirts at church while men didn’t have a set “dress code”. It had more deeper meaning behind it (which I will not go into because you are not of my same religion and it would be hard to explain), but it made it seem my religion is male based. I’m not going to deny it but yes, the male does hold more responsibilities in this religion but it does and never has belittled the title of a women. In fact they say that a women is what really influences the household by helping and sometimes guiding the male. Women tend to be more sensitive towards others in where men aren’t, they balance each other out. Living in the United States I grew up in a place where women fight for the rights and don’t want to be belittled. Yet many of us still don’t realize that women get paid less, even if it’s the exact same job as a male. It’s facts that a male doctor will earn more money than a female doctor. Though we don’t see it, even the “free” countries experience sexism. Maybe not to the extant as open as Korea still is with their religious view and ways of living, but we still have sexism, no matter how small.

    I’m originally from Chile and there it has old roots like most Latin American countries on where you respect your elders. It doesn’t matter if you are related or not, you respect them. Talking back is seen as a sign of rebellion and asking to be put back in your place. So I understand the respecting of elders in Korea. Also male company holders or heads never really acknowledge the wife in case it is seen as inappropriate. Though it has probably changed a lot from when I used to live in Chile, the idea of a company head asking the wife, or female of the partnership, was not seen as appropriate if they were married or she were married. I guess that may be somewhat of the same, I wouldn’t know really, to how Martina was treated.

    This whole subject did open my eyes to learn more about it from articles or maybe asking a few of the Korean students I know. What we see as sexism could possibly be seen as normal behavior for them. There isn’t any way to say that no country does not favor men, because that is a big lie.

  39. DirtyEyedGirl

    www . youtube . com / watch?v=B09FXOZVw4g

    I came across this video lately (even though its quite old), and I was a bit disturbed by their portrayal of foreigners and their generalization of the situation to say the least.

    I was wondering what were your thoughts on this?

  40. ooh… Can I just say that I love TL;DR’s- they are my favourite part of EYK!

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