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Holy shiznit guise. Here’s our video with SHINee. It took a long time to put up, even though we were finished it a week ago. Why? We’ll let you know. It’s a long story. It’s not a happy story. And it’s something that we’re never going to do again.

Here’s how everything unfolds: the time after our European Trip and before the YouTube Music Awards was pretty hectic for us. A bunch of YouTubers came over from the US and UK and we had some collaborative projects to work on with them to promote the YTMAs. At the same time, we were speaking with CJ Entertainment and finalizing our roles in the YTMAs. Those roles were independent of the collaborative project with the other YouTubers since we were doing the live backstage interviews for the YTMAs.

CJ’s Program Director came to our studio, sat down with Soo Zee, and went over the plan, what we’d say, where we’d say it, who we’d say it with. They scheduled in the interview with SHINee for us as part of our role in the event, and pegged it as something that would go up on our channel after the YTMAs. We agreed to that. SHINee’s managers agreed to that. Great! Things looked smooth so far.

After we posted our announcement video of our interviews with the artists, we picked a bunch of your questions, which we then submitted to CJ and to SHINee’s manager. The questions were approved. Lovely! We were ready to rock and roll, and were really excited for this opportunity.

Fast forward to the day of the event: we were in our artist tent waiting to do the interview with SHINee, but their manager delayed the interview and so we missed our interview time slot for filming in the backstage room. Crap! Since we had to prepare ourselves for the backstage event which was going live very soon, we then agreed to do the interview in our tent. Vice TV’s crew was nice enough to help us with lighting so that SHINee would look good. SHINee’s manager agreed to it.

He then told us that he didn’t like the interview questions anymore, so we changed them, on the spot, in extremely short time, frantically looking for good questions on Twitter that weren’t “TAEMIN OPPA WILL YOU MARRY MEEEEE.” After we got these questions we submitted it to him, and he agreed. Lovely. SHINee then came into our tent and we explained what we’re going to do. We asked our tiny amount of questions, Soozee translated, we got their answers. Boom bam!

There was once thing we didn’t include in this interview. We gave Taemin the “Taemin TaeMAN TaeMAXIMUM” shirts. We explained to SHINee that they debuted around the same time that we came to Korea, and we saw them change from a young group to a more mature and confident group, and how we made this shirt to kind of document of their growth, like Pokemon! Taemin smiled, we asked him what size he was, small or medium, because we brought both shirts and wanted to give him one that fits. He asked if he could keep both, so we all laughed together, and gave him both shirts.

After that was all done and SHINee left (ps-> Key said he saw our Music Mondays as well) we went onto doing our live backstage event. A couple of days later we finished the interview, subtitled it, and sent it to SHINee’s manager. We usually send our interviews to managers before we publish them, just as a courtesy. If they see something we didn’t see, like a member picking their nose, or an awkward stance that shows off their crotch or something, or a line from the interview that might be viewed as rude or conflicting with a product they endorse, we ask them if there’s anything we can crop or cut out. It’s not necessary, but we want to be considerate, you know?

But then SHINee’s management team just said No. No…what? No to the entire video. They didn’t like how it looked and didn’t want it up. It was shot in a tent and looks like it’s just shot backstage. No, don’t put it up. Now, Soo Zee explained to them, yes of course it’s in a tent and looks like it’s backstage…it was meant to be a backstage interview. She explained how we were backstage hosts with Taecyeon and Min and we did equally short interviews with other kpop artists at the same event. Didn’t matter, SHINee’s management still said no.

Now, this is something that we were not prepared for, since our sending videos to management isn’t an approval process; it’s simply a review process. Sending the video to them is just a collaborative effort to make final tweaks on the video to make it better for all parties involved. They already approved the video back when they told us we could announce it in our YTMA collab video. They knew we got our questions from you guise, SHINee’s fans, from that video. We put it in the teaser in our YTMA Backstage video. They knew we tweeted our pictures. Our audience – you guise – are waiting for it. We’re not NOT putting up a video. A tent looks bad? Not putting up a video looks way worse for all parties involved, not just us, but SHINee, too.

And what about all the hours we spent in editing the video? If they didn’t like the video, why did they come into our personal tent to shoot it? Why was the manager there with us in the tent, OUR TENT with our names on it, if he didn’t like the setting? Despite us giving ALL these reasons, the questions weren’t answered. All we heard was “no, don’t put it up.”

Okay…so, breathing very slowly and calmly, we went out of our way to offer a compromise: if they don’t like the video, then let’s have SHINee over at our studio, where we can film something in a better environment with more lighting. Sure, it’ll destroy our schedule for the week and cost us tons more time to edit and translate, but we’re willing to do that instead as a middle ground. SM’s response? Nope, not happening, either. It’s too difficult to get the five of them together. What the hell kind of explanation that is, I don’t know, since they’re in the middle of promotions and together all the time. So we suggested then that we shoot it in their space in the SM Studio. Again, no. All we know is that they said no to everything and weren’t willing to do anything else.

And here’s where things get really annoying. We honestly thought this: the PR team probably doesn’t understand the situation. They were just told to look at an interview, one of probably many, and to approve it. But they didn’t understand why it looks so backstagey. So Soo Zee, who has been talking to SHINee’s PR, finally tells her politely that we had agreements with other companies like CJ and Kia to do this video as part of the YTMAs. She explained to her, we’re not a news company in which we need you approve of a few pictures so we can post an article for our entertainment section. We’re not a gossip website that needs pictures and selca re-post articles in order to make money. We’re not press. We’re YouTube vloggers, there to vlog our backstage experience at a YouTube event. SHINee performed at the YouTube event by dancing and singing, and we performed at the YouTube event by doing backstage interviews.

Still, the PR person said, no. She even told Soozee that it doesn’t matter that SHINee’s manager said yes to the interview, because the PR are the ones to approve everything. Sidenote: so what you’re saying is, I never have to ask for a manager’s permission to film a group again because the managers have no power and are literally just bodyguards? That doesn’t make any sense to me. So Soo Zee responded, as nicely as possible, that we’re not calling them to ask for permission because it’s not theirs to give. We’re simply trying to explain the situation because it seemed that there was miscommunication.

When Soo Zee told her that, the lady actually gave a scoffing laugh, and told Soo Zee she’d call back, then hung up the phone, and she never called back. She flat out…laughed at Soo Zee, in a “do you not know who you are dealing with?” kind of way. Poor Soo Zee, who has been nothing but super polite to all of them, gets rudely laughed at all because of this tiny 2:00 minute SHINee interview. Martina here: that really pissed me off. Soozee doesn’t deserve ANY of this stress and bad vibes over a SHINee interview. We still haven’t heard back from them, and doubt we ever will again.

So, that’s the big story, and I understand that some people will think this looks bad on us. SM doesn’t like the way SHINee looks, and we’re not understanding that it doesn’t show them at their best. We’re being unreasonable, then, and forcing SM into an awkward situation. Yes, I know some people will walk away from this blogpost thinking that we’re the ones being divas here. Our position, on the other hand, is that this is exactly what everyone agreed and signed up for. They performed at the YOUTUBE Music Awards! YOUUUTUUBBBEEE!!! We are YouTubers that were supposed to do backstage interviews with artists before and after they were on stage. We were supposed to give the excited vibe of the YTMAs, to show what things were like behind the scenes. That was our role in the program! That’s what we were signed up for! That’s the only reason why we went to the event. It was supposed to add a splash of on-the-fly light fun vibe to it, just like a YouTube video! Did you see the NYC YTMA event? That shit was crazy! Personally, we like the video, and we’re happy to put it up. They talked about some things that were light hearted and fun, you heard their input on their fav hairstyles, and you had a chance to see Key speak a little bit of English. This was supposed to be SO simple and fun and we hoped it made the Shawols on this site happy as well.

But, to us, it really dragged us down and made us feel icky. The icky icky bad mojo vibe of what it’s like to butt heads with a giant million dollar company that cares more about iron-clawed control than individuality. Seriously guise: this isn’t what we signed up for. We’re just two people that go around having fun making videos, and we are lucky enough to be able to make a living off doing this, but it was never a secret business plan or driving life goal.

We’ve been fortunate enough to have a lot of random chance encounters, like chatting with U-Kiss backstage at Inkigayo and having a blast. We interviewed B.A.P, Block B, UKISS, and Z:EA all in poorly lit change rooms! Do you like them any less because of that? After being lucky enough to get the EYK Nasty Studio, we’ve done other interviews in our studio and had loads of fun. And that was our goal, to take Korean artists and make them more approachable and understandable to their international audience. The mini mini Marshmallow sticker booth is ALWAYS amazing, I’ve seen even the most exhausted kpop star grin from ear to ear laughing in that booth.

This, though? This isn’t fun. And, not only that, we wasted SO MUCH of our time talking with all of these managers when we could have been making fun videos. We wasted so many days being annoyed and trying to find the right words to say to try to get SM to work together with us when we could have been out and about being silly on camera. Soo Zee was drained. We were fuming. The vibe in the Eatyourkimchi Studio was sour as hell. And when we realized this, when we realized how gigantic a pain in the ass this whole experience was, in contrast to the great times we’ve had working with other people in our studio, we realized that we don’t want to do stuff like this again. Maybe if things change and we only do interviews in our studio, or maybe if we make managers and their PR team sign a contract. I don’t know. All I know is that the satisfaction we got out of this is farrrrrr smaller than the frustration. Not worth it. Totally not worth it for us.

We’re not a “Kpop company”. We do Kpop Music Mondays once a week. The rest of the week we’re talking about Naughty Hand Gestures, Driving to the Coffee Prince House, talking about Indie Music, Playing with Tea Divers. Kpop is a small portion of what we do, and it’s the one that always causes us the most stress, especially in situations like this. We want to talk about Kpop videos in a fun way, and do interviews in a fun way.

Our goal as a new business isn’t to be Kpop authorities; our goal as vloggers is to have fun and enjoy our lives as the happy married couple that we are. Since becoming a business we’ve made it a goal to surround ourselves with positive people, and so we added two new people who we love being around, Soo Zee and Leigh. We all genuinely love working together, love brainstorming for videos ideas, and love being creative! We love that we have Nasty viewers that like similar things that we like, and we like trying to include you guise in our decision making process as much as possible. That’s what we like dealing with. But if dealing with SM is going to ruin that for us, then we won’t deal with them again. Sorry guise. I know some people will think that we’re so biased, yada yada yada, but the stress that comes from this isn’t worth the effort. And it’s nothing against SM Kpop artists personally: Super Junior and f(x) are lovely, and Kris, despite our short meeting, was a really nice guy! We’re biased against repeating negative experiences. We’re humans with preferences; we’re not a news outlet that’s neutral and balanced.

So that’s our long story. We’re exhausted from this encounter, and we’re glad to finally be over with it. I’m sorry this took so long to put up. We’re gonna take measures in the future to prevent this from happening again. I hope you still kinda liked the video, even if you know what the back story behind it was like.

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  1. That sounds rough…I’m sorry that you guys had to go through that. o(^.^)o *Huggle*

  2. Oh, and I forgot to add.
    What we learned; “Never deal with SM.”.

  3. Whaaaa Shinee!!! I totally missed that!
    Aww I love them so much <3

  4. Although you both probably won’t see this, i just wanted to say (although I LOVE many parts of what you do), I think the interviews you do with kpop artists are amazing. I find watching you both goofing off just makes me so happy (is that weird?…Oh well). I find it doens’t matter what you are doing, making candy sushi sets, going to a princess playground, opening gifts on a livechat or taking the Micky out of my favourite groups, you still manage to entertain me and make me laugh.

    Now getting to the point, I find korean interviews can be REALLY boring, because they get the groups to bow, introduce themselves, then ask the same questions over and over, the only exception i really see to be weekly idol, that show has made me cry with happy tears far to many times, however sometimes it can be so obviously scripted that it’s just awkward. However your interviews are entertaining, they make me laugh, and they make me want to know more about the artist because I like them as people, I only got into Eric Nam and Ukiss because of your interview as I saw how funny they were and how funny you both are, they just seem like generally nice people, and although I don’t care for artists personal lives, good people deserve good things and i have no problem looking into an artist that is funny and entertaining.

    Tl;dr you are both hilarious, brighten even my darkest days and I am glad you kept to your guns at doing the interview how you wanted to because your interviews are awesome

  5. Guys I am so sorry you had to go through that. I am a new Nasty and a huge Kpop fan, especially a SHINee fan. I was so excited to see the interview and it was so much fun. Thank you! But when I read this post, I was so angry! I’m really sorry you had to endure this. It was unprofessional and just plain mean. In light of Kris’ recent exit from SM, this kinda puts into perspective what kind of company they are.
    I love all of your segments especially KPop Music Monday :) EYK <3

  6. personally how i see it maybe yeah it wasn’t right thing to do. However SM new that people where going to interview SHINee. Other wise why would they send them to the show to perform. Also you actually didn’t make SHINee look bad in anyway. EYK can only get a lawsuit if they posted something kills SHINee’s image. The most SM can do is get YouTube to take down the video. Weither it was a verbal contract or not S&M where doing there jobs, where as SHINee’s Managment was breaking contract with the YouTube show. If SM didn’t want people interviewing there stars then don’t send them places. I personally think that SM needs to give there performers space. I am so happy for Toheart and Woolim. if it wasn’t for Woolim SM wouldn’t do it. So thank you Woolim for helping Key get out of SM’s chains.

  7. wow…(I know, so LATE). I’m not even a fan of the group, but I feel compelled to watch because of all the trouble! Poor SooZee, that PR…what a condescending bitch. I’m sorry you had that awful experience.

  8. SM that little ass. Imma whoop you

  9. I honestly think the situation you described makes SM, in particular the manager and PR look like divas, not you! And I understand that you don’t want to go through such an exhausting process again and since you already experienced that there are managements and groups who are easy to work with, there is no need for you to put up with something like this again. So imo it is mostly SM’s loss for not recognizing what you both contribute to the kpop industry by making the fandoms happy with little inside views and stories. I’m mad at them and while reading the blog post I had to give Soo Zee props for being all kind and polite to them. Don’t know if I could have handled this so well.
    I’m happy, though, that you managed to put this video up. And know, that the nasties are with you :)

  10. This is going to be my first and probably last long comment:
    Hmm, so that’s why the video was short. Hmm, I could somewhat understand the management team’s logic, however they could have at least have more awareness, training, or open-mindedness of different concepts of interviews or styles like yours. I know that K-pop companies aren’t the only groups that set limits to content, but I’ve seen FAR TOO MANY incidents for artists, especially SME’s, that seem to be a simple office worker, different by only producing music videos and albums for the fans. I’m not sure if that’s the standard work ethic of Korea in general, but that’s my theory. Personally, I LOVE Eatyourkimchi’s style and although many people might have already said this as well as you guys, I feel that there is a intimate connection between myself and EYK because EYK is not the average “company”. If I were to meet you, I would feel ecstatic as if I’m meeting one of my K-pop idols. I have so much respect for you guys to be able to be more interactive with fans like me since that’s seems to be a major part of why EYK is very successful (super jelly of how a hobby for a career works so well for you guys~). I wish that more vloggers like you guys will be more prevalent in the future. I’ll support you guys completely no matter what! – U.S. Nasty from California ^__^

    Side notes:
    1) I’m pretty sure that I can say SME is the most affluent and nightmarish K-pop companies to work with. At first glace I thought that it was a very professional business, but again, from what I notice in companies in general, there is a lot of shadiness as if this was politics. WTH is the PR and the management team’s problem?! Their justification sounds more like circumscribing nonsense (probably the think that because they are a part of SME, they have arrogance). So sorry that this happened to you guys and Soo Zee. -___-

    2) Well that pretty much convinces me to stop my dream of being a K-pop star. I like cooking anyway.

    3) I think that your interviews are WAY more professional and comfortable than other interviews.

  11. Aw, I’m sorry you guise had to go though all that trouble :c the interview turned out nice though! It was really cute :3

  12. Again I say what are you talking about? None of your comments has ever been deleted. As I responded to your anon comment this morning, I checked and never have any of your comments been deleted. Maybe disqus is acting up?

  13. Oh don’t ever feel like you OWE us anything! Really, I can’t believe there are people out there that feel so entitled to everything when you’re supplying them with free entertainment! We’re just so thankful that you would go through all this just for the sake of your nasties and the EYK studio. I have to say, as a shawol and an SM stan, I’m really sorry this had to happen :/ I’m not surprised by this knowing SMs reputation, and I’m also disappointed that you’ll not be able to comfortably interview any more SM artists (but not dissapointed in you of course! ). Just stick to what you know and love and your dedicated fans will always understand :)

  14. I didn’t even know that you guys went through so much for just a short video :( You guys are the best! Keep doing what makes you happy :)

  15. So many comments on here I agree with and I still feel the need to comment as well. This is a great video. Fun, friendly, informative and yes, even in a backstage tent, professional. Seriously there is nothing in it not to like.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Simon and Martina allow people like me in other countries access to Korean music that we wouldn’t have otherwise (and Korean culture and Korean fun and Korean food ideas and…loads of good stuff). I have bought loads of albums from Korean artists that I have discovered solely via this site. I let my friends know about them and encourage them to go buy them as well. My boss went and picked up the Lim Kim album because I sent him links to her YouTube channel and told him he’d love it. I know about her because EYK put her video up on the Kpop charts and I use that as my easy reference to find new music.

    I’ve loved all the interviews EYK has produced thus far and no doubt I’ll love any future ones. Interviews make artists stand out and I always check out videos from any artist that I’ve seen interviewed and liked (which includes all artists S & M have interviewed) SM should appreciate that free promotion in a largely up-tapped market should not be laughed at or dismissed and, yes, SHINee are huge and they may not think they need it but seriously it is free to them, it can really only be beneficial to them so why not accept it graciously and make the process smooth, enjoyable and develop a working relationship that makes all parties happy.

    I’m sorry you guys had to go through this and I’m grateful that you put the video up anyway. SooZee is not there to be laughed at or talked down to; she is a hard working professional that deserves respect. Simon and Martina, your hard work is not to be dismissed or scrapped and you should still feel proud of this video. It’s good, it is professional and even though it is short because there wasn’t a lot of time, you packed loads into it, made it fun, informative and SHINee came across really well even though they must have been tired. Hold your heads up high, know your worth and feel damn proud of what you put out on this. Please don’t let the experience with the management spoil something you should feel good about.

    • I completely agree! Without EYK I would never have gotten into Kpop – and certainly not into K-indie! I find most of my new music off the charts and my first Kpop exposure was from their Dance Kpop Style 2008-2011 videos as well as the KMMs. And, incidentally, I would never have heard of SHINee, let alone been interested in their music if it hadn’t been S & M’s enthusiasm for the group!

      • That made me giggle – that’s also how I found them! Before Simon and Martina came along I was blindly stumbling around You Tube with no idea what bands were out there, no idea what a huge variety of music there was in Korea or how to find any of it but desperately looking for new tunes. These bands were huge in Korea but over here in the UK almost no one knows they exist. EYK made it accessible and easy to find these artists and I love discovering new bands or singers with them. The thing is once you know what you’re looking for you can find it but I didn’t and I still wouldn’t if it hadn’t been for EYK.

        I definitely wouldn’t even know about K Indie music if not for EYK and I’ve bought loads of albums and passed the word around. Seriously Cassette Swarzenegger, MFBTY (always type that mentally saying Moofbooty) Park Ji Yoon or The Clazziquai Project to name a few are not getting promotion in the UK even though their tunes are great. I know about them only because EYK have featured them. I do a happy dance every time I see a new U Kiss song because I think they are such lovely guys who took the time to chat with Simon and Martina way back when and they’d watched the K Pop Music Mondays and I really want to support them for that. Same for K Will, Sistar, Wondergirls, MBLAQ, Crayon Pop and all the other artists who EYK have successfully interviewed stress free.

        I should say that I don’t have any issue with SHINee and I’ll still be super happy when I see they have a new release out but I’ll probably always think that the poor guys are managed by complete idiots who don’t seem to realise that Simon and Martina have interviewed many K Pop idols in a warm and engaging manner, have a large enough and established enough fan base that happily donated to purchase a studio for them within 24 hours or so (which should let them know how dedicated, numerous and diverse us nasties are) and who ultimately do a bloody good job of making the Korean music scene accessible for those of us not in the country.

        I’m feeling quite grumpy at how they were treated! But then I’ll just go watch some of my favourite EYK vids and I’ll be all happy again.

        • I actually found EYK through their culture videos (I want to teach English in Korea one day) and I actually swore not to get into Kpop – silly, foolish me!!! ^_^ I agree though – so many smaller, lesser known artists that we would never have heard of, S&M tell us about, either through K-Indie segments or interviews or videos like today’s ‘Underrated Kpop songs of Fall’! Some of my favourite Korean music came from those – e.g. Urban Zakapa, Clazziquai Project, MFBTY, Cheeze, Ra.d… etc. and I don’t think I can ever thank them enough! So that’s why it’s even more of a shame what happened with SM! Clearly EYK is an amazing platform where people who are new to Kpop can really engage in it and find new music to listen to as well as new groups to get interested in! All I can think of is how awesome it would have been if S&M could have interviewed SHINee at the studio and had none of the PR nonsense – that would be amazing if that could still happen! [I guess that’s the other thing – we were all so excited that SHINee and EYK were going to be interacting after all of the EYK in-jokes that the 2 mins and the PR rubbish feels even worse!]

        • You just can’t fight the K Pop. I was listening to Joe Hisaishi tunes on You Tube and a suggestion for a K Pop song came up so I listened to it, then I looked for another and another and then I found Simon and Martina’s How to Dance K Pop and that was the end for me – totally suckered into K Pop.

          When I found their culture videos I was so happy – I love Asian culture and here was someone showing me what it would be like to live in Korea. I watched them all from scratch in a run in a couple of days (is it weird that my all time favourite vid was the Monsoon one with the Katamari music on it? I don’t know why I love it so much but I do!) and now I really look forward to their vids because they never fail to make me smile.

          I suppose that’s why what SM did was so super sucky. Everybody, including SM Ent had to start out somewhere and when you make it hopefully you should be giving others a chance. Two people went across to Korea, worked their butts off, built a fan base from absolutely nothing and showed how amazing Korea is, how awesome the bands over there are and how lovely and nice the singers are when they get to relax and interact like normal people. They have great personal morals, have successfully interviewed many bands and singers before and this interview was actually really nice. There was no reason for SM to object to the release.

          I mean honestly, why wouldn’t they want free promotion in overseas territories?! They potentially could make more money which means they might not have to work their idols so hard (thereby reducing the risk of burnout) and everyone is a happy (puffy?!) bunny. EYK has a large, established and supportive fan base in territories that are mainly unreached by Korean media and honestly a mutual working relationship could only benefit all parties. Hopefully SM will realise it may be really nice to work with EYK and will reach out to them in future so us foreign fans can see our idols being interviewed.

          I really hope you manage to teach English in Korea one day soon! I would love to but for long winded reasons I didn’t get a degree so can’t. However, my company looks like they might be expanding over to Korea so I may get to go sometime soon myself – yay!

        • Joe Hisaishi?!!!?!?!? I love his music! I love Studio Ghibli movies immensely and his music is such a big part of that! Especially in Howl’s Moving Castle! I love the main theme so much!^^

          Yeah, I definitely feel that EYK interviews are world’s apart from any other interviews that are available – Korean or English-speaking – because they’re so much more relaxed, the fans are involved in coming up with the questions and the interactions between the idols/artists and S&M are usually hilarious!

          Well, one more year of university and I might be over there! I really hope so! Hope you can convince you company to let you transfer across then! =^ㅅ^=

        • I have an album of his with the main Ghibli tracks on it up to Ponyo which I would absolutely recommend getting if you love the Ghibli music (I’ll have to dig out the album name and I’ll post a link for you). He’s done some really great tracks outside of working for Ghibli as well and tons of them are on You Tube if you want some new music.

          I flat out love all the Ghibli films and just cannot chose a favourite. Every time I think it’s Spirited Away, Ponyo or Howls then I remember Nausicaa, Laputa, Kiki’s Delivery Service or Porco Rosso and I think choosing the one I love most is completely impossible!

          Also genuinely really great for you going for your dream of getting across to Korea. At that time of my life I was not focused at all and I really admire those who are. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for my company but even if that never works out I’m planning to go across and take a look sometime in the next two years anyway. I need my hubby to finish the course he’s doing and my Dad’s health to get a little better (he’s getting there) and then we’re free to travel a bit more – I cannot wait!!

  16. Well guise! I am so sorry you had to go through that bullshit! I like all of your videos and I’ve been watching for some time now and I am happier when all of you are being happy and creative. I heard the “industry” was harsh but no one deserves that and you’re not being a diva or over dramatic. An agreement is an agreement, and if anything, the PR team are the one’s being the divas.

  17. OMG SM are so rude. how could that stupid PR talk to Soozee that way. What douche bags :(

  18. OHMAGOD!!! KEY LIKED UR HAIRSTYLE!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU MET MY HUSBAND(Taemin)!!!!! YOU MET MY FAVORITE GROUP!!!!! OMG I’M LIKE CRYING RIGHT NOW!!

    BTW Was it just me or did Jjong look super happy?

    Anyway soo amazing guys, great interview! Love you!!!!

  19. Heh, next time, just do what you feel like. You are getting bigger and more popular, soon the entertainment companies will be begging you to interview them. If you give them a courtesy review, treat it like courtesy and only adjust if you agree with their complaints. In this case, it was unreasonable,so you should just go with what you intended to do.

  20. Hate that you guys had to go through the grief and trouble so thanks for all the hard work you do. I’m not a massive Kpop fan but I guess I’m slowly becoming a convert. Enjoy what y’all do all the same so please keep it up :)

  21. Ugh…This whole ordeal sounds so frustrating and awful. As sad as I am that it went so badly and that it’s now very unlikely you’ll interview the other SM groups that I love, I totally feel you. I’m glad to see other people in the comments supporting your decision to do what you love and not go through so much hassle.

  22. SM (SM himself and the staff that are just like him) seriously need to remember that we the viewers and fans love the IDOLS not them. Sure the company finds them but take the idols out of the equation and the fans are gone. They seem to be very unprofessional denying the posting of the video,which their permission wasn’t needed for in the first place AFTER they AGREED to a decision earlier and then having the audacity to scoff at someone politely explaining the situation. They run their company like a mill more than an entertainment company working their idols to exhaustion and popping out new idols and treating them just the same. Its sad to see it because these idols are people not animals or robots you use for your personal gain. People need rest. I understand the battle of being one of the top entertainment companies but seriously give your idols a break or they might just break themselves.

    As for EYK I don’t understand how you can NOT want EYK to post your videos. I mean You guys are amazing! From a professional view if EYK was to ask me for an interview i’d agree to it instantly and let them do whatever they wanted with the idols as long as the idols were ok with it because nothing sells better than a happy idol/group. That and the exposure they would get in other countries would be huge because if you are nowhere in asia then the only way to get in touch with kpop is online unless you live in some of the few states or cities they travel to. I live in Hawai’i and we barely get American artist concerts let alone Kpop concerts so I go online for that. If I were an idol I would be more than happy, Id probably even beg to be a guest on EYK because you guys are just so fun and uplifting and Freakin awesome. Itd be a nice change from all the other serious interviews and a great get away from the hectic life of an idol. As a fan I thank you for the video but i’d prefer you guys not to stress out so much for making videos for us. I love EYK for your crazy selves so all the kpop idols are just a nice little bonus. :)

  23. sometimes SM PR becomes a little shit.. like it happens couple of times in every year!

  24. SM is very controlling if you know what i mean~ ahaha
    But in all seriousness im happy you guys stood your ground :]
    #ProudToBeANasty hehehe

  25. Because they didn’t like the way SHINee LOOKED? Are you kidding me? SHINee looks fucking fabulous! Just look at Minho’s million-dollar red carpet smile! Key’s perfectly coiffed hair! Jonghyun’s beautifully drawn eyeliner! Onew’s adorable side glances (because he can’t move his neck ;~;)! Taemin’s cutely awkward stiffness! I mean, to be totally honest, their greeting could have been more enthusiastic, but you know what, I don’t really care about that, I just want them!

  26. Somehow SM’s handling of this doesn’t suprise me. I am glad that you two are strong enough to draw boundaries…not that I ever doubted you were…but I want you two to be happy and enjoying life. That is what brings me back time and time again to your videos – all of you guise at the EYK Studio. I LOVE everything else, but you guys are what makes it! Question: who sings the Taeman song?

  27. I’ve been waiting for you guise to interview SHINee since forever ago and now that it’s finally happened, I almost wish it didn’t. I wish SHINee and other SME artists were under different management so SME could just go away: no one likes them anyways. The Eat Your Kimchi Nasty Crew has always been amazing and wonderful, always being so tired just for us Nasties, doing so much just for us! And now this. You really go too far, but we love you so much. Soo Zee is awesome and doesn’t deserve that kind of treatment. Simon and Martina, keep being amazingly cool and doing what you do best. How could anyone hold this against you, when obviously it was a clean start and then they changed their minds, going back on what was previously agreed?
    OK, I’m just repeating everyone else now but seriously: YOU ARE WONDERFUL AND PLEASE KEEP UP THE MOST AWESOME WORK!!! Don’t tire yourselves out, and please just always have fun with whatever you do!!!!!

  28. Key vampire feels continue to grow, I can’t handle them anymore. Key saying he loves his current dark hair…*whimpers* if he keeps it much longer this noona just might finally explode from feels. XD

    Sorry very random but clicked the link and I all I could see was Key. He’s not even on my bias list!

  29. I wouldda been heartbroken if it was YG or JYP you were not gonna deal with. While I like some SM artists, I hate the company (if they didn’t have such good artists, people would have boycotted them ages ago) and am so not surprised about your experience. Not worth the hassle. Hugs!

  30. That’s really stupid on SM’s part – what’s the big difference between you guys interviewing them and Shinee going on Weekly Idol where the whole point is to see how well they handle humiliation? I think the point they’re missing is that any criticism coming from you guys about a Kpop video is coming from a good place – watching your KMM’s is what got me into kpop in the first place!

    Simon & Martina fighting!

  31. I’ve followed you from the beginning. Back then there were no interviews. Interviews or not I will always stand beside you guys! I’m here for your amazing personalities, commentary, K-Pop, learning about Korea, drooling over yummy food, and laughing along with you. The interviews just happen to be icing on the oh, so, nasty cake! XD Anyway, keep doing what you guys do. It would be nice if SM (and other labels) will consider you in the future. (f*ck ’em if they can’t take a joke!!!) But if not, keep making your unbelievably, entertaining, and addicting videos!!!! ^_^ You ended up posting it because you PROMISED all your nasty fans you would. Think about how disappointed all the Nasty/ SM stans/ Shawols would be if you said you couldn’t. They probably would’ve stormed SM! So you did SM a favor. ;-)

  32. I do not know why youtube make another music awards… they should do awards for youtubers… at the end they are the ones that work every day to give us good content. Why should they give an award to someone who does not even care about they’re youtube account? ..

    I would totally give simon and martina an award .. They are the ones who deserve it :)

    P.S
    I totally love when simon says HOLLY SMOKES! hahaha lol

  33. Please tell us more about your meeting with SHINee! Maybe in the next Live chat? Pleease

  34. @simonandmartina:disqus I am so sorry you guys had to go through all that! When it was taking so long for you guys to get this video up, it made me wonder how dealing with the company was going. Apparently worse then I thought. If you guys don’t want to go through all that trouble then don’t. Having a small interview shouldn’t be such a pain. Honestly SHINee barely even said anything. If you can’t ask them real fun questions then what’s the point? That’s why we Love your interviews with K-Pop groups because you don’t ask them the same generic questions everyone else does. You also keep in mind all of your international fans. We LOVE you guys not just for K-pop but all your other fun dorky randomness! Keep it up and I hope you guys feel better! :) <3 <3 <3

  35. After reading the terms & conditions in a few SM contracts, I’m not too sure having one would make it any easier … it probably would say something like SM has all the rights and the other party has all the liability.

    ^^

    • Where did you read one of these contracts? I was always curious what theirs were like.

      • You want to start a fan war? LOL

        My comment was tongue-in-cheek… I haven’t ever seen one of their vendor contracts just the most notorious one that’s been translated & published (TVXQ) along with the translated court opinion that it burdened the other party with too many liabilities for things they had little or no negotiating power to control.

  36. I’m just gonna conclude here: The point is not how SM treats EYK. It’s how they agreed to everything and everyone (CJ is huge!), but then they just go back on their words. Just because they don’t like the look of it. No significant reason whatsoever. CJ and Youtube must hear about this…

  37. You probably won’t see this comment in the multitude of comments here. But still I wanted to add my thoughts. I think this encounter for you guys strikes such a chord with all of us because in a way you are our stand ins, our representatives if you will, for us meeting these people that we will most likely never meet in person. You give us fans an opportunity to talk through you to them and conversely give us a chance to see them outside of the usual box and staged answers (which goodness…those “I like every hairstyle” responses were so reeking of canned answers). So when you get that kind of treatment from the management of these idols it feels like they are treating all of us with disrespect as if we all do not matter to them. They could care less about the fans who take time to come up with interesting questions to ask their favorite artists. They do not realize whom you both, as well as soozee and leigh, represent – all of us fans who face the language barrier everyday and therefore appreciate your work in trying to lower those barriers one video and blog post at a time. Their treatment of you guys is a slap in the face to all of their global (or at least English speaking) fans.

    I may not always agree with everything you say in your videos or blogs but that is ok and brings about healthy discussion and conversation! But when people brush you off like that and give you the run around, there is no argument. That is completely unprofessional and I have no respect for those kinds of people.

    Continue to do what you love to do because that joy gets across all of your videos. You make me happy and give me a chance to relax after a long hard day at work – I really appreciate that. I may argue with my ipad about some of your opinions but that is the fun in your videos and blog posts. Thank you for all that you do. EYK crew and fellow nasties ~ FIGHTING!!!

    • I agree with what you said totally. Through Simon and Martina I have been able to share so much about Korea and the Kpop world that I like and dislike with my friends; to know that they promote not just the music but the culture honestly for international people is something that the industry should realize and treat respectfully. Simon and Martina have probably helped promote more of Korea than most of the cultural PR have and it is really horrible that the people of SM do not care to find out about how much of EYKs presentations will actually work positive towards promotions and sales. If it wasn’t for EYK I would not have heard about a lot of Kpop and would not have given as much time to learning more. ***SM, I know many fans will be disappointed in your actions and treatment towards our beloved EYK representatives, please learn to treat people more respectfully or you could lose a lot in the way of international and even local support***.
      Simon, Martina, Soozee, Leigh, spudgie, and meemers, we support you and hope you are able to put this behind you. We love what you do and will understand if you choose to not participate in events or actions that will stress you. Fighting!!

  38. Yeah, I know. Never is a strong word. We don’t really mean it. We just feel really jaded at the moment and don’t want to deal with this kind of stress again.

  39. I really do feel bad for the EYK crew involved in this. There are lot of stories about how hard Sm entertainment can be about releasing rights to their artist. Kcon even had an issue with putting Exo and f(x) on the official Kcon shirt because they did not want kcon to “make a profit off their artist” or something of the sort. Either way the situation was not handled well by SM Ent., especially when they laughed Soozee off. I have a feeling everything was put very nicely to avoid any conflict, and the situation was a lot more stressful and disruptive then they care to share.

    The crew at EYK are very positive and I will continue to support them because they do what they love and want to share with others interesting and new things. I appreciate their perspective and opinions and I just hope that the issue with be resolved with some sort of contract.

  40. So what made SM agree to post the video?

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