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SHINee Interview at the YouTube Music Awards

November 17, 2013

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Holy shiznit guise. Here’s our video with SHINee. It took a long time to put up, even though we were finished it a week ago. Why? We’ll let you know. It’s a long story. It’s not a happy story. And it’s something that we’re never going to do again.

Here’s how everything unfolds: the time after our European Trip and before the YouTube Music Awards was pretty hectic for us. A bunch of YouTubers came over from the US and UK and we had some collaborative projects to work on with them to promote the YTMAs. At the same time, we were speaking with CJ Entertainment and finalizing our roles in the YTMAs. Those roles were independent of the collaborative project with the other YouTubers since we were doing the live backstage interviews for the YTMAs.

CJ’s Program Director came to our studio, sat down with Soo Zee, and went over the plan, what we’d say, where we’d say it, who we’d say it with. They scheduled in the interview with SHINee for us as part of our role in the event, and pegged it as something that would go up on our channel after the YTMAs. We agreed to that. SHINee’s managers agreed to that. Great! Things looked smooth so far.

After we posted our announcement video of our interviews with the artists, we picked a bunch of your questions, which we then submitted to CJ and to SHINee’s manager. The questions were approved. Lovely! We were ready to rock and roll, and were really excited for this opportunity.

Fast forward to the day of the event: we were in our artist tent waiting to do the interview with SHINee, but their manager delayed the interview and so we missed our interview time slot for filming in the backstage room. Crap! Since we had to prepare ourselves for the backstage event which was going live very soon, we then agreed to do the interview in our tent. Vice TV’s crew was nice enough to help us with lighting so that SHINee would look good. SHINee’s manager agreed to it.

He then told us that he didn’t like the interview questions anymore, so we changed them, on the spot, in extremely short time, frantically looking for good questions on Twitter that weren’t “TAEMIN OPPA WILL YOU MARRY MEEEEE.” After we got these questions we submitted it to him, and he agreed. Lovely. SHINee then came into our tent and we explained what we’re going to do. We asked our tiny amount of questions, Soozee translated, we got their answers. Boom bam!

There was once thing we didn’t include in this interview. We gave Taemin the “Taemin TaeMAN TaeMAXIMUM” shirts. We explained to SHINee that they debuted around the same time that we came to Korea, and we saw them change from a young group to a more mature and confident group, and how we made this shirt to kind of document of their growth, like Pokemon! Taemin smiled, we asked him what size he was, small or medium, because we brought both shirts and wanted to give him one that fits. He asked if he could keep both, so we all laughed together, and gave him both shirts.

After that was all done and SHINee left (ps-> Key said he saw our Music Mondays as well) we went onto doing our live backstage event. A couple of days later we finished the interview, subtitled it, and sent it to SHINee’s manager. We usually send our interviews to managers before we publish them, just as a courtesy. If they see something we didn’t see, like a member picking their nose, or an awkward stance that shows off their crotch or something, or a line from the interview that might be viewed as rude or conflicting with a product they endorse, we ask them if there’s anything we can crop or cut out. It’s not necessary, but we want to be considerate, you know?

But then SHINee’s management team just said No. No…what? No to the entire video. They didn’t like how it looked and didn’t want it up. It was shot in a tent and looks like it’s just shot backstage. No, don’t put it up. Now, Soo Zee explained to them, yes of course it’s in a tent and looks like it’s backstage…it was meant to be a backstage interview. She explained how we were backstage hosts with Taecyeon and Min and we did equally short interviews with other kpop artists at the same event. Didn’t matter, SHINee’s management still said no.

Now, this is something that we were not prepared for, since our sending videos to management isn’t an approval process; it’s simply a review process. Sending the video to them is just a collaborative effort to make final tweaks on the video to make it better for all parties involved. They already approved the video back when they told us we could announce it in our YTMA collab video. They knew we got our questions from you guise, SHINee’s fans, from that video. We put it in the teaser in our YTMA Backstage video. They knew we tweeted our pictures. Our audience – you guise – are waiting for it. We’re not NOT putting up a video. A tent looks bad? Not putting up a video looks way worse for all parties involved, not just us, but SHINee, too.

And what about all the hours we spent in editing the video? If they didn’t like the video, why did they come into our personal tent to shoot it? Why was the manager there with us in the tent, OUR TENT with our names on it, if he didn’t like the setting? Despite us giving ALL these reasons, the questions weren’t answered. All we heard was “no, don’t put it up.”

Okay…so, breathing very slowly and calmly, we went out of our way to offer a compromise: if they don’t like the video, then let’s have SHINee over at our studio, where we can film something in a better environment with more lighting. Sure, it’ll destroy our schedule for the week and cost us tons more time to edit and translate, but we’re willing to do that instead as a middle ground. SM’s response? Nope, not happening, either. It’s too difficult to get the five of them together. What the hell kind of explanation that is, I don’t know, since they’re in the middle of promotions and together all the time. So we suggested then that we shoot it in their space in the SM Studio. Again, no. All we know is that they said no to everything and weren’t willing to do anything else.

And here’s where things get really annoying. We honestly thought this: the PR team probably doesn’t understand the situation. They were just told to look at an interview, one of probably many, and to approve it. But they didn’t understand why it looks so backstagey. So Soo Zee, who has been talking to SHINee’s PR, finally tells her politely that we had agreements with other companies like CJ and Kia to do this video as part of the YTMAs. She explained to her, we’re not a news company in which we need you approve of a few pictures so we can post an article for our entertainment section. We’re not a gossip website that needs pictures and selca re-post articles in order to make money. We’re not press. We’re YouTube vloggers, there to vlog our backstage experience at a YouTube event. SHINee performed at the YouTube event by dancing and singing, and we performed at the YouTube event by doing backstage interviews.

Still, the PR person said, no. She even told Soozee that it doesn’t matter that SHINee’s manager said yes to the interview, because the PR are the ones to approve everything. Sidenote: so what you’re saying is, I never have to ask for a manager’s permission to film a group again because the managers have no power and are literally just bodyguards? That doesn’t make any sense to me. So Soo Zee responded, as nicely as possible, that we’re not calling them to ask for permission because it’s not theirs to give. We’re simply trying to explain the situation because it seemed that there was miscommunication.

When Soo Zee told her that, the lady actually gave a scoffing laugh, and told Soo Zee she’d call back, then hung up the phone, and she never called back. She flat out…laughed at Soo Zee, in a “do you not know who you are dealing with?” kind of way. Poor Soo Zee, who has been nothing but super polite to all of them, gets rudely laughed at all because of this tiny 2:00 minute SHINee interview. Martina here: that really pissed me off. Soozee doesn’t deserve ANY of this stress and bad vibes over a SHINee interview. We still haven’t heard back from them, and doubt we ever will again.

So, that’s the big story, and I understand that some people will think this looks bad on us. SM doesn’t like the way SHINee looks, and we’re not understanding that it doesn’t show them at their best. We’re being unreasonable, then, and forcing SM into an awkward situation. Yes, I know some people will walk away from this blogpost thinking that we’re the ones being divas here. Our position, on the other hand, is that this is exactly what everyone agreed and signed up for. They performed at the YOUTUBE Music Awards! YOUUUTUUBBBEEE!!! We are YouTubers that were supposed to do backstage interviews with artists before and after they were on stage. We were supposed to give the excited vibe of the YTMAs, to show what things were like behind the scenes. That was our role in the program! That’s what we were signed up for! That’s the only reason why we went to the event. It was supposed to add a splash of on-the-fly light fun vibe to it, just like a YouTube video! Did you see the NYC YTMA event? That shit was crazy! Personally, we like the video, and we’re happy to put it up. They talked about some things that were light hearted and fun, you heard their input on their fav hairstyles, and you had a chance to see Key speak a little bit of English. This was supposed to be SO simple and fun and we hoped it made the Shawols on this site happy as well.

But, to us, it really dragged us down and made us feel icky. The icky icky bad mojo vibe of what it’s like to butt heads with a giant million dollar company that cares more about iron-clawed control than individuality. Seriously guise: this isn’t what we signed up for. We’re just two people that go around having fun making videos, and we are lucky enough to be able to make a living off doing this, but it was never a secret business plan or driving life goal.

We’ve been fortunate enough to have a lot of random chance encounters, like chatting with U-Kiss backstage at Inkigayo and having a blast. We interviewed B.A.P, Block B, UKISS, and Z:EA all in poorly lit change rooms! Do you like them any less because of that? After being lucky enough to get the EYK Nasty Studio, we’ve done other interviews in our studio and had loads of fun. And that was our goal, to take Korean artists and make them more approachable and understandable to their international audience. The mini mini Marshmallow sticker booth is ALWAYS amazing, I’ve seen even the most exhausted kpop star grin from ear to ear laughing in that booth.

This, though? This isn’t fun. And, not only that, we wasted SO MUCH of our time talking with all of these managers when we could have been making fun videos. We wasted so many days being annoyed and trying to find the right words to say to try to get SM to work together with us when we could have been out and about being silly on camera. Soo Zee was drained. We were fuming. The vibe in the Eatyourkimchi Studio was sour as hell. And when we realized this, when we realized how gigantic a pain in the ass this whole experience was, in contrast to the great times we’ve had working with other people in our studio, we realized that we don’t want to do stuff like this again. Maybe if things change and we only do interviews in our studio, or maybe if we make managers and their PR team sign a contract. I don’t know. All I know is that the satisfaction we got out of this is farrrrrr smaller than the frustration. Not worth it. Totally not worth it for us.

We’re not a “Kpop company”. We do Kpop Music Mondays once a week. The rest of the week we’re talking about Naughty Hand Gestures, Driving to the Coffee Prince House, talking about Indie Music, Playing with Tea Divers. Kpop is a small portion of what we do, and it’s the one that always causes us the most stress, especially in situations like this. We want to talk about Kpop videos in a fun way, and do interviews in a fun way.

Our goal as a new business isn’t to be Kpop authorities; our goal as vloggers is to have fun and enjoy our lives as the happy married couple that we are. Since becoming a business we’ve made it a goal to surround ourselves with positive people, and so we added two new people who we love being around, Soo Zee and Leigh. We all genuinely love working together, love brainstorming for videos ideas, and love being creative! We love that we have Nasty viewers that like similar things that we like, and we like trying to include you guise in our decision making process as much as possible. That’s what we like dealing with. But if dealing with SM is going to ruin that for us, then we won’t deal with them again. Sorry guise. I know some people will think that we’re so biased, yada yada yada, but the stress that comes from this isn’t worth the effort. And it’s nothing against SM Kpop artists personally: Super Junior and f(x) are lovely, and Kris, despite our short meeting, was a really nice guy! We’re biased against repeating negative experiences. We’re humans with preferences; we’re not a news outlet that’s neutral and balanced.

So that’s our long story. We’re exhausted from this encounter, and we’re glad to finally be over with it. I’m sorry this took so long to put up. We’re gonna take measures in the future to prevent this from happening again. I hope you still kinda liked the video, even if you know what the back story behind it was like.

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  1. Reading the story just makes me appreciate this whole interview even more. Knowing that you guys went through so much for us… this is why we nasties love you guys. ^^

    2 years ago
  2. Did SM eventually agree to you guys posting the interview? Or are you posting it up without their permission?
    SHINee is my favorite kpop group, I personally loved the interview! It was very cool to see them backstage after a show, and to me they still looked great.
    Thank you for your hard work!

    2 years ago
    • According to their post, when they submit the final interview to the PR team/managers, it’s as a courtesy to to the company to make sure S&M didn’t overlook something or some tiny little things. I’m figuring that since they already had the questions and interview itself approved, they could just post it as is and the company can’t really do squat since they already gave the green light.

      2 years ago
  3. They should be happy that you even contacted them (the PR-departement)! Cause I Think that many people would’ve just put it out instead of waiting for confirmation if they can use it or not. I would’ve probably tried to Contact the manager again, but he also sounded pretty difficult to work with… Either way, I hope that Soozee’s ok now and that you don’t have to deal with such icky people in the future~! EYK FIGHTING!^^

    2 years ago
  4. I knew that SM is really stubborn but I thought that they won’t make big problems out of little thing. That’s sad. However, I enjoyed the interview and Key touching Martina’s hair :3

    2 years ago
  5. OMG!!!! u suffered so much!!!!!! I will support u no matter what!!!! Nasty Power!! Thank you so much for going through so much trouble!!! U r the best!!!^^

    2 years ago
  6. I have a question …does this mean no more SM entertainment interviews/SHINee ones:( because I totally understand that experienced sucked but the interview was cute !!

    2 years ago
  7. Its REALLY ridiculous that you guys had to deal with that:/
    That company isnt even smart-interviews like this get them TONS of international fans. And the When I read the Laughing at Sooooozeeeee felt personally offended. I don’t KNOW Soozee but that was still rude and tactless. shame on SM.

    2 years ago
  8. I think the interview was really cute and fun and it’s not a surprise that SM acted this way. I hope you don’t have to go through anything like this again.

    2 years ago
  9. It happened too with a radio DJ in my country . The Radio channel was in charge of all the Kpop appearances and he experienced similar stuff with SNSD when they were here . SM is always like this . Most of the time its not worth it to try so hard because a lot of people who have tried interviewing SM artists always end up with very little footage (or none at all) and a terrible case of exhaustion . You guys tried your best and we love you for that <3

    2 years ago
  10. I’m still reading your story, but I think that same history of that their artist is super famous and the interviews will have to have their height, their level (this in relation to the company, not the artists. Though there are artists like this, in this case is SM, NOT SHINee).
    This is sad, because in this way seems their artists are so robotic, answering what the company wants and is difficult to separate artist and company. One thing the company is reviewing the questions in order to promote your artist, something else is the artist answering question just too favors your company.

    SM should have the notion that this interviews are simple, in a simple place, if 2PM and Miss A did why SHINee would not? And I found rude of them to exchange in the last minute your questions, questions that had already been approved by them.

    2 years ago
  11. SM makes you guies down!!! They think that they are No.1 of the Kpop music industry. They want to keep the image of their stars/singers, but they do not notice that fans want to see their REAL personality of each persons!!!

    YOU GUIES DO YOUR BEST ^^ KEEP SUPPORT AND FIGHTING!!!

    2 years ago
  12. I would have never ever wanted to deal with SM. I hope they don’t sue you for still putting this up.

    2 years ago
  13. Not surprised with the crap you guys had to deal with. Imagine if you guys didn’t have SooZee, you would’ve probably been pushed around by the PR staff and be bullied by some random low-level PR staff. And here I was being naive and thinking that SM was being humane and nice for this miraculous moment pfft

    2 years ago
  14. I really enjoyed this interview, and I’m sorry about all the fuss you had to go through :( I liked this interview because you brought SHINEE out of their box, they seemed like real humans here and that’s only a good thing! I appriciate the work and effort you put to your videos and your interviews are just the best. You keep things real & funny. (Also omg Key touched your hair, I’m forever jealous!!)

    2 years ago
  15. I feel sooo sorry that you had to go through all of this. I met you in person while you were in Poland, and you are so friendly people, such easy-going and nice, that I just can’t believe all that awful treating from SM Ent. Thank you, though for your hard work and be happy with things you do.
    We love you :)

    2 years ago
  16. Hey guys! Sorry to hear all the stress you have to go thru just to post a vid in a nicely manner. Anyway, pat on the back to the whole team. Lol I actually loved the YTMA vid you all did with Min and Taecyon… Haha Hope this experience won’t dampen your love for shinee haha…. Pain the rectum people is everywhere ;)

    2 years ago
  17. No.

    It REALLY sucks that they were so unforgiving of the quality after jostling you guys around so much. I hope one day SM stops being a poop and lets you guys do a proper interview with their artists in the studio– the interviews there are a lot of fun and a lot more professional-looking than this– obviously! You did the best with what you were given, and it really was a fun interview, for what it’s worth, even if it wasn’t worth the trouble.

    A contract is probably the best bet.

    2 years ago
  18. Oh dear….so sorry you had to go through all those shitty management all for a 2 minutes interview video. :(
    I guess that’s the deal when the managements have too much control. Don’t ever EVER put yourselves into such trouble ever again. We Nasties prefer you guise to work happily even though that will mean no interviews with huge stars like SHINee ever again. Work happy guise, we love you working happily. :D

    2 years ago
  19. I’m really sorry that you guys had to go through all that. :/ Honestly, I don’t know how anyone could come away from this thinking that you guys are being dramatic. You were treated poorly and you had every right to upload your interview. I don’t know why SM always does this. Uhg.

    2 years ago
  20. I figured that was what happened. Certain industries have certain well-deserved reputations. Good on you guys for doing what you said you would. I wish I was surprised at their behavior but….
    I love you guys like you are. I love Shinee like they are. This doesn’t change either of those facts it just cements other things opinions. <3

    2 years ago
  21. Hugs from the interwebs! <3 <3 <3 I can't believe that SM's PR management team would be particularly snooty. :( I'm wondering if SM's still not happy with the DBSK/JYJ lawsuit that has them all prissy.

    I'm happy you've chosen to upload this. The contract idea sounds lovely, by the way.

    2 years ago
  22. I hope you all made cupcakes and a big cup of tea or coffee after that ordeal. Hopefully you’ll never have to have another situation like this again, but thank you for posting for us regardless of what they said. You guys are the best <3

    2 years ago
  23. wow, that was a long story. damn, hope u guys won’t experience something like this again! the next time you have to make a contract or just yell at them like ‘ahjumma’s’ haha :b

    2 years ago
  24. Why doesn’t all of that trouble with SM surprise me?

    2 years ago
  25. Guise they weren’t happy with it because it wasn’t filmed in a flashing box.

    Sucks that SM can’t get along with SM and why would anyone feel like you guys were the divas? You have every right to be frustrated and angry, I certainly am just from reading this post. Poor Soozee having to be laughed at and making this something light-hearted and funny into a frustrating mess.

    2 years ago
    • you forgot the 360 degrees camera~

      2 years ago
    • The flashing box made me lmao.

      2 years ago
    • Love the flashing box comment. Maybe EYK can turn the ghost room into a special flashing box of random Brohohoness for similar anal-retentive PR divas?
      It’s a shame SM was so poor to work with. I’d love to see you guys do fun interviews with F(x) and Girl’s Generation like you have done with MFBTY. I’m sorry you guys went thru so much pain for us fans. I hope that PR person finds herself out of a job.

      2 years ago
  26. I always knew that SM was a difficult company and all, but I never knew that they would be so irritating and unreasonable >:( I’m so sorry that you guys had to go through all those shit just for us :( I guess this means the last of interviews with any SM artists maybe? ><'' But of course I understand that you guys started all of these to have fun and not to get all these kind of shit. Thank you so much for pulling through all those shit for us though :)

    2 years ago
  27. I’m so sorry about your difficulties guys! Thank you so much for working as hard as you did to put this up for us :) They really suck for doing what they did to you.

    2 years ago
  28. oh Im sorry for you guys and really pissed of at SM. They never let them do anything..really they look great as ever…i just dont get it.. You have every right to be mad at SM…..:( Hope you dont have problems for uploading this! EYK Fighting!

    Key watching music mondays…how cool is that?! ahaha Jonghyun is always the same! Oh I love Onew’s hairstyle too! I want to see Taemin wear the shirt!

    2 years ago
  29. thank you thank you going to watch

    2 years ago
  30. *sigh* And some people don’t understand why I dislike SM Entertainment as a whole – I love their groups to death, and will proudly call myself a Cassie, ELF, Shawol, Sone, etc. etc, (With the exception of EXO, because I don’t want to be lumped in with their fans), but the company just seems so… Ugh. It’s a backstage interview, what did they expect it was going to look like? And, seriously, I think fans would rather see their oppa’s in a more comfortable setting, something like this, or the EYK Studio, somewhere less serious, and more fun.

    I’m really glad Taemin liked the shirts though!

    2 years ago
    • EXO’s album songs are pretty good, its sad you overlook their hard work and just pay attention to what their fans say :(

      EXO gets hated on for no reason, and they no where the amount of controversies SNSD or SUJU had when they first started off.

      2 years ago
      • Oh, that’s not what I meant^^;;; I love the boys, and I like most of their music, but I don’t want to be lumped in with their fans, since so many of them are kind of… scary. I didn’t meant to make is sound like I don’t like them, I just don’t consider myself a fan – it’s the same with like M.I.B, I like some of their music, but, I’m not a fan.

        2 years ago
    • Personally, I just wish I could see the looks on the SM PR team’s faces when they realize how much their dickishness and superiority complex bit them in the ass.

      2 years ago
    • I think what SM needs is a breath of fresh air….Their artists are so amazing an talented and yet…I think SM lives in the past like in the 90’s or something.I just do not understand why such a big company is afraid of changing some things. No wonder so many international fans dislike the company and just the company not the artists be it singers or actors….

      2 years ago
    • So this is a management problem. Goodness I don’t know what’s going on inside the company. You’d think after all the troubles they have been through such as the H.O.T. split, TVXQ split, Super Junior turmoil, and the Merger that the company would learn from their mistakes and get their shit together. But nope they are still making the same mistake over and over again. If the consumers are not liking what you are doing SM Ent., then you should realize that one day people will have a strong mistrust and dislike against your management and PR staff. Why do you think so many fans were against the merger? One of the reasons is because of your bad history with your own artists! Get your shit together SM Ent. and leave your hubris at the door. *Snap

      2 years ago
      • the problem is that people still buy tons of albums from SM artists… Just look at EXO, SJ and SNSD. SM can be as bitchy as they want, in the end they are making more money than ever

        2 years ago
        • that’s so true! We hate SM but we still ultimately buy from them because we are scared to lose our favorite artists if people ever truly boycotted and took down the company! So sad that they have so much power and control and we know they won’t change because they can dangle their artists in front of us….argh!

          2 years ago
      • Hell, tons of people already hate the SM management staff.

        2 years ago
    • I do agree staff wise SM has some of the worst managers but all in all there not bad tbh. The worst thing about being the company is the feeling of never being able to debut. But SM has way more benefits compared to other companies.

      2 years ago
      • Regardless of their level of professionalism and respect towards the whole EYK family (choking down some rage here), how does this reflect their regard for the Shawols who also happen to be Nasties as well? What about the time we spent composing questions to ask our 5 shining men in the hope that we’d get just a few minutes to speak with them/see them via the EYK interview. They were going to dash those dreams with a snap of their fingers without so much as a thought for all of us, who are loving, and hopefully valued fans just like any others. They didn’t give a damn, and while that’s not entirely surprising, it is severely disheartening. I also find it personally distasteful that I have to give this same company, who doesn’t consider it’s bread and butter, the consumer, THE FANS, my patronage in order to support the artists I like (who work incredibly hard, for a ridiculous amount of hours, with SMILES PLASTERED TO THEIR FACES to please their fanbases). ACK!!! I DON’T WANT TO ASSOCIATE MY FAVORITE GROUP WITH THESE SNIDE, ARROGANT JERKS! Now I know that every dollar I spend on iTunes buying SM artist songs is a microscopic portion of the paycheck of the very d-bags who sneered at Soo Zee and S&M and who consider me and my fellow Shawol Nasties expendable IF THEY CONSIDERED US AT ALL. They thought, we giveth, we can taketh away…the god complex sure is strong with this one and I for one wish someone could take them down a peg or two because they hurt my pride as a fan and they caused people I care about a lot of grief and needless worry, all in the name of their vanity and hubris. So they were getting revenge for all the little observations EYK has made on the site? Give me a break. Learn to accept constructive criticism and get over yourselves. Is this a multi-million dollar (won) corporation of a bunch of butt-hurt elementary school kids?

        P.S.,
        Simon and Martina, please never have dealings with people who have so low regard for your precious time and wonderful selves or for us as fan community again. As much as I love SHINee and respect them as artists (and f(x), and several other SM label mates), I guess I will just have to content myself with the highly staged and stilted interviews that are deemed appropriate by the brass. Carry on with all of the other lovely videos you all post that bring me to this site, full of anticipation, every single day. I only want you to do things that help you to enrich your life and bring you joy, not the sort that drag you through the muck.

        2 years ago
      • I really hope you’re wrong (as to the reason EYK were given a hard time) because if that’s the case that’s not good for the future of SM. It would show an extraordinary lack of business vision. SM doesn’t need EYK, but SM does need YouTube. YouTube doesn’t need SM. To make the money that feeds Great Mother Google, You Tube needs their content providers to provide content. SM is one of those content providers, and EYK is another. YouTube are always, ALWAYS trying to get content providers to collaborate so that there will be combined views on one video. Sure SM is a huge company, but YouTube is bigger and they can’t be worried about SM cock-blocking other providers because SM didn’t like what someone said that one time. Ain’t nobody got time for that!

        2 years ago
      • I would have to politely disagree on that…SM should be the one ALWAYS being professional, regardless of whatever S&M have said about them in the past. What S&M has said about should not matter in the context of, well, business. They had an agreement (though I definitely would have suggested a contract to have prevented what had happened) and S&M had trusted SM to go through with what was agreed upon. Instead of treating their own artists, their artists’ fans, and other companies like they’re all below them, I think SM themselves should should be taught “professional respect”.

        2 years ago
        • Besides, if SM truly don’t like S&M why even agree to the interview in the first place? In order to dislike them SM would have to research them. They would totally find out about EYK’s kpop music Mondays and how big their worldwide fanbase is. ALSO! Martina said in the blog SM knew the questions came from fans and they were still stank….so UNnasty! If we truly decided to boycott SM I wish all the artists under them could be saved and sent to another company but knowing SM they’ll survive by sueing artists over their names cuz let’s face it; cockroaches never really die. :(

          2 years ago
        • This! Why even have the interview in the first place if you’re going to say it can’t be released!

          2 years ago
        • I agree. I think it’s not a matter of SM needing EYK promotion or not, it’s about being respectful while treating with others in a professional environment, no matter how big or small they are as a company. As simple as that.

          2 years ago
    • I just think the PR people should be fired -.- What kind of PR can’t even get around to what their fans like. They KNOW that SHINee and well, SM artists in general, are going global. They should be doing the work to research on what international fans like as well, and market them well with their fans. That’s their job! Yet they don’t even understand what makes us fans like them, and what will make us like them even more. They should be learning from EYK since they have more experience with international fans, yet they’re being such jerks! They don’t even know what kind of situation THEY’RE getting into. Sure, I’ll still like SHINee, but there are some fans who might stop liking them because of it. Maybe only a small portion will stop liking them, but they surely are enforcing the idea that SM is a bad entertainment company in regards to PR and how they treat people in general.

      2 years ago
      • Why should anybody leave SHINee for something their management did. Its like hating on a child when it is the parents foult, that doesn’t make any sense and it is not fair at all.
        But yes I do agree that SM has some sick ways of controlling, they either ignore some of their artists or work them way too hard.

        2 years ago
        • I’m not saying anybody should, but I’m absolutely positive that there are some that do leave SHINee because of incidents like this. I’m not going to but some fans may get influenced by things like this and slowly like them less?

          IKR, if they aren’t famous enough, they don’t give them a chance. e.g. Hyoyeon, I don’t think she did much work until they realized how popular she is internationally?? and Onew once said that at one point, he only got 2 hours of sleep every single day. They get breaks after promotion but 2 hours a day for how long? 1 month ? 2 months? That’s insane! I’ve had to do that when I had really important exams to do for the whole week, and if I didn’t get a full day’s sleep on the weekends, I would not have lasted! It’s not an exaggeration to say you practically feel like a zombie when you’re sleep deprived and it’s so unhealthy. I clearly noticed my breathing getting much heavier during that week of exams.

          2 years ago
        • Maybe it’s not so much that people will want to leave Shinee, as it is new fans won’t want to get into their artists to begin with. Shinee seem like awesome people, and they produce nice music, but I’ve never let myself get into them and love them. After DBSK, I could never let myself put my heart into an SM band again, because I didn’t want to have to go through the heartbreak of watching SM mistreat them.

          2 years ago
    • I completely agree: I love SM artists (I even call myself SM-biased), but I just do not like the company. They’re too controlling. This is also why I’m worried about Infinite and Tasty joining SM. What if they aren’t aloud to do things they could have normally done under Woolim?

      2 years ago
      • EHHHHH?!? Infinite is joyning SM?!?? O__O

        2 years ago
        • Woolim and SM merged, kind of. That’s why Destiny had such a ballin video. Woolim will still have control over their artists, but they’ll be funded by SM. Not controlled by them, so the other comments are just silly.

          2 years ago
        • Funded = produced = controlled.

          2 years ago
        • Not necessarily. From what I read, they’re simply funding them for promotions and stuff, but Woolim maintains the control and production over their artists. Yes, they’ll do stuff with the SM artists, but they’re not SM artists – they’re Woolim artists.

          2 years ago
        • not always true when it comes to mergers.

          2 years ago
      • You read my mind!!! Once again my inner self shall go into turmoil at the thought that my gorgeous Woolim artists are going to have to put up with big, bad SM. SM entertainment you’re so un-nasty!!!!

        2 years ago
        • SM IS GOING TO FUND THEM, and give them more resources, more INTERNATIONAL resources especially. I see no harm. If you stop loving Infinite/Tasty because SM will change their sound (and they won’t), then you’re not a real Inspirit.

          2 years ago
        • I will never stop loving Infinite!!!!! They’re my favorite group and I already know that their sound isn’t going to be changed. I have confidence in that! (I did read the thousands of articles that came out about it and am very well informed on the topic) I’m not worried that SM will change them I’m simply worried that they’ll work them too hard or give them too much, for lack of a better word, strife. Other than that I’m completely fine with the merge. I mean I’m quite biased towards SM artists and going to an SM town concert now would just kill me *in the good way* Infinite, SHINee, Super Junior, Tasty, F(x), Girls generation, and Exo all at one concert, just the thought makes me excited!!!!
          But for my prior comment it’s simply out of concern for Infinite’s well being, NOT because I think that SM will change Infinite or Tasty’s or any other of the Woolim artists’ sound or style. And it’s definitely not because I’m going to abandon Infinite, I’m a hardcore Inspirit man nothing would make me leave them.

          2 years ago
      • How are they too controling? If you knew SM they’re just at promoting most companies are worse than SM. Since SM has had rules set that they can’t overwork idols and even gave there idols shares of the company.

        2 years ago
        • “Rules set that they can’t overwork idol”— lol

          2 years ago
      • DARLIN’ AS A NUMBER 1 INSPIRIT FAN AND A WOOLIM LOVER. I agree. When I read the top comment ” but the company just seems so…” I though ‘controlling maybe?’ AND you said it. So I agree.

        2 years ago
        • INSPIRITS AND WOOLIM LOVERS UNITE!
          I’m so excited for the concert today. :D

          2 years ago
        • AWW LUCKY YOU!! They didnt come to sweden so.. :( Which consert did you go to? ^^

          2 years ago
        • I went to the one in NYC on Saturday… and now I’m suffering from post-concert depression. It’s a clinical condition.

          2 years ago
        • SO jealous. :-( Tickets went on sale for NYC when i was in Korea (this happened for Bigbang too…grr ..but then i got to go to their 2nd show..which almost didn’t happen b/c of hurricane Sandy and the follow up nor’easter…sigh..) and the nyc show sold out..until like a week ago when they let out the pricier tickets…and my truck needs tires. argh. SO JEALOUS!! Hope everyone had an awesome time at any of the concerts they had!! :)

          2 years ago
        • I just came home from the concert. I don’t think that was real. I’m still in a dreamy haze.

          2 years ago
        • The concert was amazing!!!! And afterwards, I saw the group leave the ballroom and saw Woohyun and Hoya! They were just a foot away. And I was on the second floor balcony. Seems like those in the audience were having a really hard time.

          2 years ago
        • Oh my god! Are you joking right now? I was on the 2nd floor balcony, but I didn’t see them come up.

          2 years ago
        • I saw them after the show. My sister and I went out to the back exit and got to see them leave. Still doesn’t feel real! Anyone know who the next Kpop group coming to NY is and when?

          2 years ago
        • I went to the one in Maryland and they were so amazing. :)

          2 years ago
        • Me too! Infinite was adorbz and my bias (Dongwoo) looked at me and my fanmade sign alot ioi
          I loved how at the beginning when they showed other Woolim artist videos (Tasty, Jin) everyone cheered really loud for them too :>

          2 years ago
        • i think i came a little late cuz i didn’t the other videos. i also didn’t have a good spot and i forgot to bring my glasses with me so i couldn’t see their faces clearly. other than that it fun. woohyun was so nice, he came to the balcony and he was like a feet away from me. :) oh and i’m also dongwoo biased

          2 years ago
        • I’m Dongwoo biased too!

          2 years ago
        • I actually wish I was I the balcony instead, I was dying in standing because Im so short and I was getting crushed ;o;
          But yeah they were all perf! (what side of the balcony were you on? :>)
          AND, DONGWOO 4 LYFE!!

          2 years ago
        • The fancams were amazing. You’re so lucky!

          2 years ago
  31. I love SME. But that must of been such an ass getting permission. I’m so glad about the taemin shirts

    2 years ago
  32. I feel so sorry that you had to endure all this because you wanted to give us this interview. Sorry and thanks a lot. What questions didn’t get the manager’s approval ?

    2 years ago
  33. I’m sorry you guys had to go through all of that for us to see this video, thank you so much. Also, I hope you guys will never have to deal with SM again ~_~ I hope all of you had fun interviewing them just as I had while watching the video. Hope you guys get to interview SHINee again without all these hassle! xx

    2 years ago
  34. I’m so sorry for all the troubles & all the stress u guys had to handle with this interview! I really don’t know why SM did it with Shinee, but I honestly think that’s not a Shinee’s fault. They are really nice, aren’t they?
    Please don’t hate on Shinee after all those things! I always love your nice comments abt Shinee!

    2 years ago
    • wow key touched her hair!!

      however to be honest i think this post is a bit overly exaggerated. it is unfortunate that you guys had to deal with this but it is obvious here that many people arent that surprised by sm’s behaviour. and the fact that shinees managers are strict is a well known fact to shawols.

      i noticed that you mention the “bad vibes” over a shinee interview a few times. i understand this situation and feel sorry that you guys were treated this way. i just hope you guys arent implying that the fault is linked to shinee just because their pr managers made these decisions. they are just doing their job.

      2 years ago
  35. Our legal counsel said there was nothing they can claim, legally.

    2 years ago
  36. I’m sorry you had to go through all of this stress :( I hope in the future the PR people or management do apologize because that was really rude of them…But thank you so much for this video, it made my day :)

    2 years ago
  37. Its so amazing to see you guys talk to SHINee, for you guys to have come this far is daebak! =D (Y)

    2 years ago
  38. I do hope you’ll never have to deal with it again. I think SM is currently at a stage where everyone is clamoring for a piece of their artists, so they enjoy being the diva. it isn’t quite unlike the other companies who appreciate the international exposure they can get. (on a sidenote I don’t get how amber gets away with doing what she does omg doesn’t SM want to kill her or something?? just look at all her no makeup selcas hahaha they’re probably flipping but can’t do much about her XD)

    2 years ago
    • I agree. SM come off as a arrogant, self-loving, control-freak company in my opinion – a complete diva who doesn’t seem to find any kind of interest in their business nothing else but a attemt to steal their “belongings”. We’re talking about a 2 minute long backstage interview here, under the auspices of The YouTube Music Awards and bloggers EYK, who are fans as well – and they can’t permit that either? Why be hostile against the fans, that “made” SHINee and their other artist what they are today?

      Bottom line is, what companies like SM doesn’t understand is that WITHOUT THE FANS, THEY’RE ULTIMATELY NOTHING!

      2 years ago
    • maybe they don’t know how to handle her. Cute as a doll-Tough as nails lol

      2 years ago
  39. Oh Lawd have mercy… Key watches Music Mondays, huh? I wonder if he’s seen any of the SHINee reviews from Sherlock on XD

    2 years ago
  40. You’re good at this :D

    2 years ago
    • what can I say, it’s a talent I suppose. ;) great video though guys, even though they didn’t have much time, SHINee seems like they’re cool guys with a good sense of humor. still, too bad Taemin didn’t do an dorito imitations :P

      2 years ago
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