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Smoking in Korea

September 26, 2013

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Ok, so we weren’t very PC in this TL;DR. Yes, yes, we know that we were a bit harsh in our treatment of smokers in this video. It’s something we take a strong stance against. If you, yourself, happen to be a smoker, we don’t hate you, or think you’re an evil person or anything like that. You’re just following a life choice that we think you’d be much better off abandoning. And you know it, too!

GODDAMMIT. I’m at a coffee shop right now writing this blog post while Martina gets her tattoo colored in (we’ve been teasing pictures on our Instagram – you should follow us there!) and somebody is smoking behind me…indoors! YARGGHHH! And in this video we were all like “oh yeah! It doesn’t happen that much indoors anymore” and a few hours later BOOM. I was in a couple of other coffee shops today working as well, though, and none of them had anyone smoking inside. This is just the exception. Still, it’s an exception that isn’t permitted in Toronto at all, so it’s something we have to get used to.

I think our reasons for not liking public smoking are fair. Smokers are making the choice to breathe in smoke, and they’re making the choice for us as well. If you want to smoke, fine, by all means do so, but please don’t make me smoke with you. Smoke in your home, in your car, in your own privacy. If you’re outside and need to smoke, do it so that you’re not affecting others who don’t want to smoke. Step outside and smoke. Don’t smoke right in front of me, so that I have to go outside because you want to smoke.

The hallway to our studio is a major culprit of this as well: people hide there to smoke in private, so that their bosses or friends or whatever don’t see them, but then we’re walking in to film something and get a mouthful of ass. FFFFUUUUUU! But we see a lot of this kind of hallway smoking. So, to answer the question of what it’s like for nonsmokers in Korea, there’s our experience of it.

GORDDDDAAMMMITT and now a second person in the coffee shop just lit up a cigarette. Really, it doesn’t happen this often to us, usually. Things have stopped being this bad. It’s a fluke incident, really, but I find it hilarious that I pretty much jinxed myself into getting surrounded by smokers today. Screw this I’m outta here. Going to a new place. You see that, coffee shop in Hapjeong? I’m not coming back!

Ok. Where was I? Still on the topic of smoking, we especially don’t understand the smoking of Kpop idols. We’ve met many people in the Kpop industry before, and have seen many of them smoke. We’re not here to name names or to out any of them, but we can say that a high percentage of the male idols we’ve met smoke. For Christ’s sake…why? They’re singers, aren’t they? Smoking ain’t good for your career. Not only your health, but your livelihood. No? Any smoking singers here? If you’re going for a smokey voice, THEN I think that smoking might not be that detrimental to your career, but if your career is about being young and energetic and singing all happy and dancey love songs, smoking doesn’t really fit that WHATSOEVER. And it doesn’t really suit an idol’s image, either, to be honest.

Ah. I don’t know. I’m too invested in the topic to speak about it calmly. I’ll just try answering the question summarily here: being a non-smoker in Korea isn’t fun. There’s smoking everywhere, even indoors, and though it is getting better, it still isn’t ideal.

So that’s it! If you want to hear us talk more about topics in Korea, you should click on this pretty button here. Solidarity, bro!

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  1. Just cough REALLY loud so they can notice you! since Simon has a big manly voice!

    3 years ago
  2. I just quit smoking two months ago after smoking for 7 years. My mom said she wants to out-live me. so I told her I would quit…..but dammit do I want one most days.

    3 years ago
    • Right there with you. I quit a month ago yesterday. I think it is hard for non-smokers to see smokers as anything BESIDES smokers, which is sad because we are (or in our case, were) PEOPLE who smoke. It is just one tiny part of our personalities and is not who we are. Almost everyone has something society tells them they should be ashamed of, a bad habit. No one is perfect. This habit just happens to be more blatant. And for whatever reason we picked up the habit, it is just that…a habit and physical addiction. A habit that is just as hard or harder to kick as a heroin addiction. It’s been a DAMN hard month and I miss it at least once a day. I find that I am succeeding not only because I am determined to get healthy and save money, but because the people I surround myself with are not rude about my smoking and my quitting journey and are snide with me and tell me I am a terrible, stinky, horrible, weak willed person who is dumb because I knowingly do something that can kill me, but instead tell me they are proud of me but they understand if I slip (I haven’t), they ask me how I am doing and give me words of positive encouragement (but leave out the “see? it’s not THAT hard to quit!” or the “it’s so great you aren’t doing something so DUMB and GROSS anymore), a few of them even brought me healthy snacks to help with the cravings. Negativity only makes me want to pick up a smoke again and tell them to f**k off. People who have never smoked will never understand, so I generally smile and nod and say you are entitled to your opinion. I have always been a polite smoker, never smoked around kids, move away from high population areas, never stand near doors or windows, blow my smoke as far away from other people as I can. I loved when I lived in Washington State and they banned smoking indoors. People I met were shocked when they found out I was a smoker. I am not quitting for anyone but myself, and that’s why I am being so successful at it.

      Anyway, there’s my rant for the day. I understand why people hate smoking, but please don’t hate the SMOKER. We are only human and all humans are flawed.

      *Edit: just an FYI, I was a smoker for 16 years. You do ANYTHING every day for 16 years, whether it is an addictive substance or not, and you would be cranky when trying to stop too! :)

      3 years ago
      • Man that definitely is some encouragement. 16 years…..congrats to you too. Im glad I quit. at first it was for someone (mom) but now that I haven’t picked one up in a while, I feel some much better, health wise, even though in the beginning I slipped up a couple of times. I was very cranky and snapped at everyone, but my family and friends were patient and understanding. I try to surround myself with positive people but I still get the occasional “See, it wasn’t that hard now wasn’t” I just smile and tell them “Yeah it was hard”. Whenever I crave for one, I have my stash of Starburst Jellybeans on hand to keep my away from it. Im the same as you, being a polite smoker. i’d used to go out of my way so I wouldn’t be near anyone, especially kids. ………….But man breaking the addiction after 16 years, you my friend are an inspiration. ;-)

        3 years ago
        • Thank you Angel. I am glad that I can help and be an inspiration to you! I am getting to the point that I don’t think about it all the time and barely crave a smoke at all. Even survived a night of drinking (SO HARD) a few nights ago. YOU CAN DO IT!!! I have completely faith in you. :) If you need any further encouragement, please let me know and we can trade emails. Having positive support is important!

          3 years ago
  3. I live in country side, Gyeongsang. and I am on your side! I hate smokers. and the image of korean guys destroyed as watching them smoke all day long. But I never encounter anyone smoking in the restaurant in my area. or maybe I always in the same area. and 1 more thing when I went to Seoul I kind of shocked to see women smokers as I never saw in my city. Until recently I saw they secretly smoke at the back alley of Yok. and I saw some cigarette box in the ladies in my school.

    3 years ago
  4. Germany has these beauts! Smoke in the box of death in the airport!

    3 years ago
    • i sure as hell wouldnt want to be walking by this when the door opens…

      3 years ago
      • It’s nasty, especially with all of the different brands and smells all mixing!

        3 years ago
    • Here in Spain when they banned smoking in public buildings they also put those in the airport. But only a couple of years later they put them away and now you can’t smoke anywhere in the airport.

      3 years ago
      • ¿Ah, España? Hablo un poco español. Alemania tiene muchos fumadores, por lo que tomar aquellos que por no ir más bien. Ellos debe estan muy ansioso despues sus vuelos.

        3 years ago
    • I may have been at the wrong airports o.o

      3 years ago
  5. At my university, smoking is not allowed inside the buildings but when you’re going in or leaving the building, there are groups of people smoking right next to the doors and you can’t help but walk into a cloud of it. Whenever I see them, I just hold my breath and, if it’s a lot of smoke, stare at them through narrowed eyes.

    3 years ago
  6. Yes. OMG. Smoking every freaking where! And yeah, I do feel like I see quite a bit of girls who smoke, especially in the Hongdae and Sinchon area. It was icky clubbing in Seoul because there would be smoking rooms in the clubs but people still smoked on dance floor anyway. I left feeling suffocated.

    3 years ago
  7. -posts on a more serious note- What to the younger generation think of smoking? As you’ve said you’ve seen some K-Idols smoke but did you guys as teachers see your students smoking? Or what views did they express about the subject? I know in the US there is some weird dichotomy where smoking is seen as bad ass and cool but also people acknowledge how bad it is. Do Korean teens see smoking as something that is social acceptable or something that makes them a pariah or makes them look cool in the rebellious sense?

    3 years ago
  8. I really don’t like smoking too I’m so glad my parents quit a few years ago (they say it’s quite expensive here in NZ). But yeah I understand why some people pick it up and all but I still don’t like it. I just wish smokers are mindful where they unleash their poison. My sister was waiting outside the library when people started smoking. They asked her if she smoked and when she said she didn’t they moved away. I wished more smokers were like that (or just quit).

    3 years ago
  9. I always do the obnoxious cough too. haha The smoke honestly does make me cough, but I tend to like to force or exaggerate it, just to make a point. :P

    3 years ago
    • i choose to yell at them sometimes. it works wonders!

      3 years ago
    • I think you definitely have a right to say something. Your right to breathing is being violated. If a person chooses to light up and bring illnesses, cancer, and death upon themselves- then kudos to you ::clap, clap:: But you can’t make the decision to harm others with your death stick’s smoke and impede their lives. I get so riled up about this issue because I think second hand smoke is a slap in the face to someone’s humanity. I think of Dana Reeve’s [Superman, Christopher Reeve’s wife] and how she lost a terrible battle to lung cancer because some careless people harmed her life with their smoking. Smokers make me so damn mad!

      3 years ago
  10. THANK YOU
    For the last few years the city I live in has taken a harsh stance on smoking – especially in public areas like restaurants and outside of businesses where everyone has to walk through so it’s relatively nice because AHHHH FRESH AIR.
    But me and my sister often have to take public transport to work and back and bus stops and train stations are AWFUL.
    People stand there and chain smoke while waiting for the transport and just blow it around in your face.
    It’s so rude and gross!
    If you’re going to do that, at least you could stand downwind so that the smoke doesn’t suffocate non-smokers.
    And I’m not at all sorry that all those rules make it more difficult for smokers to enjoy their cancer-sticks but I’ve made a choice not to smoke and they’re taking my own health out of my hands and that’s way more unfair than smokers having to walk a few feet away.
    Also, where I work a lot of the employees smoke – they do it outside, of course, but when they come in they REEK.
    To my co-workers: Y’all are nice enough people but please don’t talk in my face after you’ve had a cigarette, I’m trying to keep my lunch down.

    3 years ago
  11. I have the exact same view as you two on smoking!! Much like Martina, I used to be that annoying kid that would bug people to quit. I made my mum quit, friends, co-workers etc…
    Although Australia has strict laws on smoking, I still encounter the travelling street smokers… ITS SO ANNOYING! When you’re stuck walking behind someone who’s smoking and forced to breath in their crap!
    I think I’ve taken up my own campaign because at my work (I work at Woolworths a supermarket) and have to sell smokes to people, I always ask them ‘are you sure?’
    This, for me, will be a big obstacle to tackle when I move to Korea

    3 years ago
    • You still have Woolworths out there!?!?! I used to love that shop! Unfortunately we don’t have them anymore in the UK :(

      3 years ago
      • Woolworths is absolutley everywhere in Australia!

        2 years ago
        • Ohhh I wanna go! For some reason the company went into administration and they had to close all the shops over here sadface

          2 years ago
  12. One time my friend and I were in Ktown and we played a drinking game for every time we saw a cute Korean guy walk past us while he was smoking we took a shot. Needless to say, we got drunk. Fast. So fast we switched to water and then ended up making trips to the bathroom. Seriously it is super popular.

    3 years ago
    • Hahaha. Bad idea for a drinking game. Or…good idea, depending on your end goal :D

      3 years ago
      • Well since we switched to water we were ok. But man, we had to make so many trips to the restroom. And this was Ktown in NYC. If we played this in Korea I think my friend and I would have died.

        3 years ago
  13. I have a question for next TL:DR What is religion like in Korea/what is the main religion in Korea? I noticed in one of your earlier videos that you had a Cross up in your apartment(?) (I’m not sure if you’re christian or catholic) but I guess what is it Like to be a christian or catholic in Korea?

    3 years ago
    • I’m surprised! From my experience most Koreans are Christians, especially Korean Americans. I even met one who believes I’m going to hell. I feel a great gap between the Chinese and Koreans just b/c the former are non-Christian while the latter are.

      3 years ago
      • I was just going by statistics in the first part, but yes a lot of them are Christians. My students asked me if I was going to Heaven or Hell (which was difficult because I don’t believe in Heaven or Hell, but reincarnation) but I think what it is .. is that those who are Christian are vocal about it. But I don’t go around asking peoples religions either. /shrug.

        3 years ago
    • When i was still living in Korea, Christianity was quite enforced on by Christians much more strongly than where i am living now. When i was little, outside my schools, these Christians would set up these little stands full of stuff that little kids would like BUT only gave it to those that went to their church. So, ofcourse being a little kid and being told you couldn’t have one because you didn’t go to their church, you would go home and ask your parents if you could go to church. Im not sure how much of it has changed since then, but back then i felt that it was a bit too forced onto you and they were handling? religion in a wrong way. Much too taken seriously and i hesitantly say almost cult like compared to how chilled everything here in NZ is with regarding religion, like if you go to church once out of curiosity, they are just welcoming and don’t put pressure on you to come next time. But Korean churches it’s like you HAVE to come every time or you go to hell. Well that’s how i felt anyway when this random old man started telling me to come church, which church do i go to atm? which church does my parents go to? etcetc Anyway these are what i have experienced, and my family etc got quite the headache from religion in Korea.

      3 years ago
    • there are. Im a muslim, so sometimes i got shared videos regarding islam, ramadhan or eid, so one time they actually did a coverage regarding ramadhan… n muslim koreans, and how to get halal food. I forgot where but the first mosque in korea is still there.

      3 years ago
    • They’re small, but they are around. In Seoul I do spot people wearing the headscarf but I can’t tell if they live here or if they are just visiting lol.

      3 years ago
    • I am a religious studies major (meaning I take a ‘non-confessional’ viewpoint, sometimes called comparative religions) and a Catholic. I had a long, thoughtful comment to add but disqus ate it :(

      Basically I agree with everyone who has statistically broken down religious affiliations in Korea as 50% have an affiliation, most of which is split evenly between Christianity (mainly Protestant) and Buddhism, with 1% of the 50 being affiliations to various other traditions. But these numbers do not necessarily reflect the realities of people in Korea, as religion is a category which should also include practices of all adherents and it does not equal membership in a particular organization. Also, not having a religious affiliation does not automatically mean a person is atheist! The distinctions between religion and other categories like culture, society, language, ethics/ morals, etc. are unclear, especially in at the everyday level (e.g. native English-speakers who use phrases like “bless you” when someone sneezes, “oh my God!”, “damn it’ and so on; someone already mentioned non-Christian North Americans who partly celebrate Christmas and Easter; even ‘holiday’ was originally ‘holy day’)

      Admittedly, I have only a limited, general knowledge of religions in Korea specifically, but almost all of that knowledge has come from academic sources. A useful tool for anyone interested in a general introduction to this subject is the Oxford University Press’s third edition of World Religions: Eastern Traditions and it’s student resources section on the companion site at http://www.oupcanada.com, especially Chapter 6: ‘Chinese & Korean Traditions’ written by Terry Tak-ling Woo and its online outline/summary. Hopefully this will be helpful!

      While I can understand why Simon and Martina would avoid such a controversial subject (which is also as interesting, dynamic, and diverse as the people who practice and believe their religions), I would still enjoy hearing about their encounters with people who believe in and/or practice various religions — but I am a bit biased, religious studies being my major and all :)

      (And, yes, this is the condensed version of my original comment, which had a quote of the stats and lots of digression)

      3 years ago
    • MAJORITY OF KOREANS ARE ATHEISTS. ENOUGH SAID. ONLY 10% ARE CHRISTIAN

      3 years ago
    • i wouldn’t say predominantly… most koreans are ATHEISTS or believe in some form of SUPERSTITION.
      I LIVE HERE AND MOST PEOPLE DO NOT GO TO CHURCH AND IF THEY DO IT IS USUALLY JUST TO PRAY FOR HIS SON’S FINAL EXAM, NOT BECAUSE HE BELIEVES STRONGLY IN JESUS

      3 years ago
      • whoa what’s up with the caps? it feels so tense in here. And I don’t think it is very nice to say people believe in “superstition”. Every culture has some sort of cultural practices like that.

        3 years ago
        • Except of course that religions are superstitions, which makes it true to say it. One cannot therefore pull out the “feeling card” and say that it’s “not nice” to say it. The truth is the truth, whether one likes to hear it or not.

          3 years ago
        • Except that using a word like “superstition” is a word loaded with negative connotation. Yes– every culture has some superstitious beliefs– I am just saying wording is important here to be respectful of different people and cultures. I don’t like people would appreciate someone calling their religious beliefs superstitions– especially since saying that sort of implies the speaker/writer is “above” that kind of thing and belittles the other person’s beliefs.

          3 years ago
    • I remember seeing on Wikipedia that there are actually more Christians in Korea than Buddhists- but that said I am sure there are tons of people who say they don’t have a religion but have a lot of Buddhist morals and celebrate certain major holidays. Sort of like how in the US there are many people who don’t go to church but still celebrate Easter and Christmas. I remember someone saying that the high percentage of Christian is kind-of a cultural backlash from when Japan occupied Korea. But I am no pro at this information.

      3 years ago
    • well i know about islam and theres like a big mosque in seoul and 1 others. Also there are halal restaurants too. So i guess its a good thing for me.

      3 years ago
    • hmm i see. ah well I was just curious It’s my first time to uh ^^” ask a question… lets think of anotehr good question then ^^”?

      3 years ago
      • thats fine. I was just curious for the sake of one who wants to go to korea and still practice their own religion. I guess they won’t do this subject so vote something else up? not this? I just asked out of curiosity (this is the first time I’ve ever commented on their site ^^”) it’s other people voting this up ^^”?

        3 years ago
    • I think they did this already.

      3 years ago
      • Woah! Holy Shisus! lol
        I’ve always thought there’s only 3 branches in Christianity [Catholic, Orthodox, Protestants]
        I was baptized under Orthodox when I was a kid, but I never go to church coz I don’t like & don’t trust it (church = ppl, and ppl say whatever they want), yet I do believe in Someone up there (whatever hes name is) who watches us~^^

        I believe going to church is just wasting of time (aren’t they one of the richest ppl out there?) – Sorry for those who think otherwise, it’s just my humble opinion~

        3 years ago
      • Hi, I was baptized under the church of England when I was a baby, but I am not religious or follow any religious activities at all. I thank you for bringing me to the attention of the history and branches of Christianity, but don’t hold it against me for not knowing this to begin with as along with me, and a lot of people who attend public schools in Australia do not learn religion in their curriculum :)

        also although various religions branch from one particular religion it doesn’t mean that all their beliefs and religious activities and traditions are the same as each other today right?- thats how I distinguish differences in religion. it’s like saying Australians and decedent from the english, but english people today and australian people today still have their differences – this is how I see it at the very least~

        3 years ago
        • I think you missed the point. What they Richard was refering to was your saying “christian or catholic”, when catholics are christian. (is also australian, didn’t grow up religious and is agnostic)

          I find it super odd you didn’t know (but i guess it happens, obviously), especially since you grew up in a branch of the christain church. :o

          3 years ago
        • Whooo, Catholic Nasties unite! *Waves*

          3 years ago
        • I really have no idea about the history of religion – im not religious myself. I’m not sure why people are expecting people to know about something they’ve never been apart of in their life? ^^”

          btw I didn’t say I didn’t regard Catholics as christian. I just never knew their connection. :/

          3 years ago
        • never been to church in my life. I get what he’s saying tho.

          3 years ago
        • I think the problem here was with the phrase “Catholic or Christian” because all Catholics are Christians (but not all Christians are Catholics)

          3 years ago
    • I wanted to ask that too!!!! Also are there any other religions in Korea? Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc.?

      3 years ago
  14. What idols have you seen smoke? just curios mostly…i would be kind of disappointed if they where ones i like because i also find smoking gross though i simply tolerate it cause like everyone i know smokes almost.

    3 years ago
    • Psy smokes a lot. My husband has seen him chain smoke in person. I just don’t understand singers smoking at all…

      3 years ago
    • i don’t see electric ones as bad or as annoying but any other tobacco products are a no.
      Onew probably surprises me the most honestly though even electric but *shrugs*

      as for the other 2 i don’t fallow them very closely so i wouldn’t know how surprising that is i guess… still such a shame they would do that to there health especially as singers when it could damage there voices…

      Honestly at least its not Chew.

      3 years ago
    • The only ones that I know that smoke are GD and TOP, but I guess most people know about them.

      3 years ago
      • Wait, TOP smokes?

        3 years ago
        • Yeah he does, at least he did months ago. I don’t know if he stopped or smoking. I heard people saying that they saw BigBang filming a music video, and during breaks TOP was like a chimney and he also did a photo-shoot or he was smoking,

          3 years ago
      • Those ones don’t surprise me much honestly. still a shame.

        3 years ago
        • I really don’t care much about them (idols in general) smoking though, unfortunately I’m so used to people smoking I don’t think much about it. Sure they go down on my consideration a little, but it’s not like I stop liking them. Like so many fans did when GD drug incident blew up. I found it all so funny though, so many people saying that he didn’t smoke weed, LOL… yeah right.

          3 years ago
  15. So Kpop Idols do smoke afterall? Not that I’m expecting them to be perfect or anything but….that’s a shocker…Guess some of the rumours about some of them smoking will have to be considered a possible fact… TwT

    3 years ago
  16. Right there with you guys about smoking, I hate it, and I don’t understand why people do it really. It’s not like we’re in the 50’s and it was cool to smoke, and people didn’t knew how bad it was for their health. Here in Portugal that same law was implemented a couple of years ago and thankfully things changed, but when there are still a few bars for smokers, that are not ventilated at all. I hate it, I get home smelling like shit, my hair the next day still smells like smoke.
    Another thing that I hate seeing, and it happens way too much not to be talked about is people smoking at the beach. WTF??? There should be a law against it. This summer I saw a women smoking with their baby son on her lap (O_O) and then she just put the cigarette bud on the sand. I said some things, she said some things back, like she was doing the right thing. Any who I just got really mad about it.

    Tl;Dr: If you wanna smoke, don’t do it IN MY FACE!!!!!

    3 years ago
  17. I can see why idols smoke cause they are under so much public pressure and stress that smoking and maybe their career is what keeps them alive and well sane. I smoke for the same reasons but i hate it and i am trying to quit right now.
    I hope y’all don’t look badly on smokers because there is a reason why we do it. I hope y’all can just support and help those that are trying to quit. Instead of hating y’all should help and support those that choose to quit.

    3 years ago
  18. where im from (nyc) there are pretty strict rules, people still try to sneak them in here or there (like above ground subway platforms which is illegal) but for the most part people are quick to let someone know there being an arse lol! even university campus’ are enforcing stronger policies like not being able to smoke in any part of the campus indoor or outdoor forcing smokers to walk off campus like a block away to smoke. I don’t see why anyone would go through such efforts to slowly kill themselves!!!???!!

    3 years ago
  19. In my former high school we had a lot of asian exchange students and I noticed that almost everyone of them smoked (except the occasional athlete and a few other exceptions), especially the ones in my year (gr. 12). apparently, it is a really popular thing with asian high schoolers?
    I didn’t really care, I hate it but i ignored it, as I know to them it was just a thing you do but it was dissapointing at times~ I mean I was crushing and flirting with this really cute chinese exchange student but I saw him smoking outside of a restaurant near our school and I just…i wanted to cry. Bye bye cutie, i do not want to kiss an ashtray thank you very much.

    3 years ago
    • Exactly! A bunch of the Chinese guys at my school smoke, too. It isn’t legal, either, they just hide behind the gas station down the street. :/

      3 years ago
      • Behind a gas station? Okay there is no way that is safe!

        and it is illegal to do it on any public property in Canada so they were breaking the law.

        3 years ago
        • Yes, exactly! I’m American, but yes the rule is the same here.

          3 years ago
  20. So im guessing being asthmatic isnt ideal if i wanted to go to korea for an long holiday? better get a chemist load of asthma puffers….

    3 years ago
  21. I’m glad America has been becoming more anti smoking as a non smoker. At the bar or at the casino I can expect smoking and it doesn’t bother me too much. But when my dad had a hospital stay for a week, it was so irritating when I wanted to wheel him out for seem fresh air. Outside the door we were greeted by huge puffs of cigarette and cigar smoke by nurses and patients. That hospital has now banned smoking from the premises which should be done at every hospital.

    3 years ago
  22. I feel you. I was in Guangzhou last year and there would be people smoking in the hotel lobby when there were signs clear as day that said, ‘NO SMOKING’. It pissed me off so much. The rooms reeked of smoke as well and this was a 3 star hotel.

    I have some knowledge of idols that smoke. It kind of baffles me on why they would do it. Oh, well. Their life. But I dislike it when fangirls would approve of their oppas smoking because it makes them look hot.

    3 years ago
    • When I think of smoking all I can think of is my friend laying in a hospital bed dying from stage 4 lung cancer. Anyone that thinks that hit is a damn idiot.

      3 years ago
    • “fangirls would approve of their oppas smoking because it makes them look hot”? Whoa my rage level at that comment is too damn high. I’m gonna stop typing before I say something I’ll regret later on…

      3 years ago
      • In American universities and conservatories for performers (recent BFA grad in acting), our professors nailed it into our heads that smoking (aside from all the bad stuff we know it does) can do soooo much damage to vocal cords (especially over time) and to the quality of the sound of the voice (before school, I would have thought this was obvious!). IT WAS SO FROWNED UPON (some students were kicked out of the program if found out)! It’s ESPECIALLY frowned upon when your trained in musical theatre or Shakespeare, because the physical (both in the body and breath) stamina it takes just to do one run of a show! Smoking cuts your stamina leaving you practically breathless…

        So, WHY KPOP IDOLS DO IT BLOWS MY MIND. They are performers. I wonder how they would get through one of the concerts with screaming fangirls and with all the singing and choreo… Someone help me understand what their justification is. I just… don’t…comprehend.

        3 years ago
      • It’s true. Like, this is unrelated, but I see people’s tumblr posts with Benedict Cumberbatch smoking and the comments are like, “That’s so hot” or “Sexy smoker” like what? I love Benedict but smoking is not a thing to strive for.

        3 years ago
        • YES, omg I hate that too. And I get soooooo mad. I even try to explain them, that smoking doesn’t make them look hot, they’re just hot whatever they do. Whenever I see someone famous that smokes, they just go down on my consideration.

          3 years ago
        • Ugh and when people think that smoking weed is okay and cool I’m just ready to sock them in the face and give their beautiful healthy body to someone who needs it, wants it, and can take care of it. Imagine all of the kids with cancer who would love to have a healthy life just like yours, but you WASTE it and smoke?!? Really?!? You do drugs, too? Was that one feeling for a half hour really that awesome? It pisses me off.

          3 years ago
        • Not everyone that smokes weed is a deadbeat I had a friend smoke weed when he had cancer it helped him a lot.

          3 years ago
        • Well, that was obviously for medicinal purposes. That’s different.

          3 years ago
  23. It’s good timing that you are talking about this now, because back here in Toronto (GTA represent!), Toronto Public Health is considering a wider ban on smoking in the city. They are proposing all public spaces, sports fields, and patios being added to the list of non-smoking areas. Being a non-smoker myself, I think this is a great idea, but the issue of enforcement comes up. Can authorities really catch everyone smoking in these areas? Is there a limit to how much they can ban it?

    Thought you might be interested in the article: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/09/23/toronto_to_consider_wider_outdoor_smoking_ban.html

    3 years ago
    • Yeah, that’s one thing we’ve learned in Korea that we didn’t really think about before. There’s a difference between laws and enforced laws…

      3 years ago
      • Definitely, and I know that you brought it up a bit in the video.

        Speaking from my experiences, it depends on the authority and where you are. Not everywhere will have police constantly patrolling (Nor do I expect that, say at a venue like the Phoenix) but most places will have a manager in charge or security guards of some kind. Being in those positions, I’d hope that they would be up on the smoking by-laws and enforcing them…but many don’t (Either out of ignorance or just apathy). This isn’t just for small venues either, I went to see The Rolling Stones at ACC in May, and there were people smoking cigs AND weed during the show! WTF?

        3 years ago
  24. Yeah the water vapor ones have become very popular. I had someone walk into my work and start smoking one! I don’t even think I can tell them to stop because it’s technically not hurting the air around me (I don’t think), but I work in an ice cream store! Why do you have to smoke in an ice cream store?!?!?!

    3 years ago
  25. Another thing that’s annoying about so many smokers is that, not happy to just pollute their bodies, they throw their filthy butts out on the streets. Cigarette butts ARE NOT BIODEGRADABLE!!! They get washed into the ocean and get eaten by fish, dolphins, etc and kill them.

    3 years ago
    • And they make the streets look disgusting, and sometimes start fires. One time in a dry summer, a guy tossed a cigarette butt out his car window onto the side of the freeway into a grassy field and started an all out fire.

      3 years ago
  26. Sigh, for real. When I visited Seoul (And rolled my sexy windows to you guys, Romeo and Juliet style :D [seeing me from down the window]), I felt like I was doing parkour when I was dodging the smoke that people carelessly blew into my face. I had to hold my breath for most of the time, haha. That’s probably why I felt breathing such clean air when I came back home, haha. It was interesting to see compare the Smoking culture in Korea as opposed to America (Bay Area, CA. The land of the “San” (Where you guise came for the MBC Dream Kpop concert)). Bay Area is known to be an advocate for clean air and a clean environment, so having to go from clean air to smoke infested air was hard on me.

    3 years ago
  27. YES!! I totally hate people who smoke too! When I was in Chung-Ang University last time, I saw a “smoking room” on the campus. I thought it was a pretty good idea. Let all the smokers go into that room and kill themselves with smoke!! Buahahahahahahah! *ahem* I mean….that room can protect us non-smokers from the smoke. :)

    3 years ago
    • Ah smoking rooms. Back when I went to the University of Waterloo in the early 90s, there were still “smoking” room lounges off the back of the womens’ washrooms in the older engineering buildings. No smoking any more, but a decent and pretty safe couch to crash on when pulling all nighters in the compy lab. I think that they eventually just enlarged the washrooms to include that space, but maybe they are still there. I would sometimes bring my male lab partner in there so that he could crash too but the third time a security guard tossed us out because they didn’t believe that we just wanted to sleep ;)

      3 years ago
      • OMG there are other Nasties in Waterloo? This is awesome….

        3 years ago
        • Hihi! Another Waterloo student? ^^ we should gather us Waterloo nasties together one day hahaa

          3 years ago
    • THERE WAS A SMOKING AREA IN SIX FLAGS my teachers reaction: ” I don’t wanna see this anymore!!!!!!!”

      3 years ago
    • I’ve never seen a designated smoking room in the US, where I’m from, but my sister has been to Japan and they indeed have such rooms.
      I’m curious what other countries have this sort of development, so to speak.

      3 years ago
      • If you watch tv series from the 90’s like Friends or Seinfeld you see that back then smoking rooms were pretty common… they existed even in hospitals… but later it was outlawed to smoke indoors almost everywhere that is not your own house so, bye bye smoking rooms.

        3 years ago
        • After you mentioned that, I did recall that when I was lass, indeed some restaurants had designated areas for smokers. Of course it hasn’t been this way in many years. Mmm, and that’s my story.

          3 years ago
        • I’m from Alberta, Canada, and the only place I know of that still has an indoor smoking section is a casino on a reservation. It has something to do with land ownership and autonomous legislation, or something? Everywhere else bans smoking within 5 m (possibly 10-15, I’ve never really needed to know) of a fresh air intake.

          3 years ago
    • Oh! I forgot to mention that they have smoking rooms in the airport as well! Similar idea: go into the room of death and quicken your own.

      3 years ago
      • In the US seem to b related to local or state laws. No smoking inside FL airports but there are smoking rooms at Atlanta’s airport. Those things are like gas chambers. I literally felt like giving up a couple days of my life just by going in.

        3 years ago
        • PZ

          Yeah, Florida is really good about the anti-smoking.

          3 years ago
      • Oh, I was in the airport in Riga, in Lithuania (I have never inhaled as much smoke as there, oh my god.) and literally next to a eating place/cafeteria/bistro/whatever was the smoking area! (Well the smoking area was outside but there was a door inside the cafeteria) Apart from that disgusting smoke blew in indoors when smokers opened the door, it looked hilarious watching the smokers almost caged in as monkeys to shorten their lives.

        3 years ago
      • They have a special room for smokers? Ill bet that smells lovely. Wouldn’t even have to smoke just go in, inhale and you’re good to go.

        3 years ago
        • Uhm there are thingies that suck the air and pump fresh air into the room. no worries. ^^

          3 years ago
        • I’ve seen smoking rooms in Japanese airports. Happened to walk by as someone exited & the smell was so overwhelming!

          3 years ago
        • They used to have smoking rooms in Canada as well, but once the anti smoking laws came in, they had to be removed, there are by laws saying you have to be a certain distance away from buildings know you can’t stand in doorways or any thing any more.

          3 years ago
        • That’s the same with my college campus!!! Smokers need to be 25ft away from all doors so there’s this building underneath a walkway where all smokers congregate. I, unfortunately, need to pass that area in order to get to another building for a class and boom! smoke cloud! I literally have to hold my breath and walk really fast to get away from it. It also unfortunately, traps all the wind so if the wind is blowing really hard on a particular day, they’ll be stuck in a wind vortex. I like to laugh to myself about that.
          You want to smoke? That’s fine. All you have to do is stand outside, freeze, and get trapped in a wind vortex. At least it’s not me.

          3 years ago
      • Oh, and I heard from some Korean guys that those in the military get FREE cigarettes from the government. Hence, that’s why most of them who went to military ends up being smokers.

        3 years ago
        • I don’t think they get free cigs, but they do get allowances, which is spent on buying it at base shops.

          3 years ago
        • The US military stopped doing that ages ago, so Madame President, why not as Commander in Chief decree the same for your boys and girls in uniform?

          3 years ago
  28. I live in Maryland, and I go to a community college that has been ranked as one of the best (community colleges) in the country. In all my years living in Maryland (my whole life, age 19), I’ve never seen so many people smoke cigarettes in my life!
    Seriously, Maryland isn’t that big of a state, but for some reason I guess the majority of smokers in my state go to my school -_-

    I can’t walk anywhere without seeing it! I luckily don’t think I breathe in too much of it, but it might just be that the whole campus smells like it that I can’t even tell I’m breathing in smoke anymore!

    3 years ago
  29. We’ve seen some of them in Korea as well! But it’s not as popular as regular, non technological smoking :D

    3 years ago
    • You know, if they choose to smoke at all, it would be healthier to smoke Ecigs instead of regular cigs. They’re made with WAAAAAAAYYYYY less chemicals and on top of that, they’re filtered. Literally the only thing you can smell is stuff like gummy bears or something like that. I’m not joking. A gummy bears after-smell. It also won’t trigger any asthma attacks on anyone, so that too is a bigger plus to using E-cigs instead of regular ‘ole tar-filled-more-than-7000-chemicals-used-to-create cigarettes. Thankfully, I am not a smoker as I like to sing and I don’t want to get cancer in my bladder, blood, cervix, colon and rectum, esophagus, kidney and ureter, larynx, liver, oropharynx, pancreas, stomach, trachea, bronchus, and/or lungs (among other respritory diseases) :D

      2 years ago
  30. Smoking is bad! But they choose to smoke so hey.. when they die early and all… lol. My dad smokes and he knows how much we hate it, and he has tried to stop but you know, once you get so used to or addicted, it’s hard to stop. Luckily, cuz he knows we hate it, he smokes outside, which we are grateful for. But I hate when people don’t use smoking areas when they have to smoke. Though I know sometimes there isn’t but like.. dude just go isolate yourself and smoke goodness. I’ve had bad encounters at my college where I’d just be walking to my next class and people are walking by me as well, going to their class, and smoking along the way and I’m just like D:

    3 years ago
  31. That will be the one thing I miss about the states greatly when I move to Korea… I love strict smoking laws

    3 years ago
  32. I do the same thing, mainly because my lungs are sucky and I can’t breathe well in normal air…

    3 years ago
  33. Kes

    Sigh, smoking in Korea. Sooo many times I’m walking down the street, and there’s a guy walking right ahead of me leaving a trail of tobacco smoke right behind him. Like walking behind a car and breathing in exhaust. You gotta cross the street to get away.

    But what makes me laugh are the big “Smoke-free zone!!!” signs. Usually it’s hard to see them because there are several people in front of them smoking. (bus stations, omg. waitin for my bus with some old ajussi blazin away in the doorway)

    3 years ago
  34. it’s good to hear that they’re enforcing more laws in Korea. In Japan they should enforce laws not to smoke inside even though they have designated smoking / non-smoking areas, it wafts, and you can still smell it.. it’s horrible. What I will give praise to is, besides the odd yakuza/yankee tough looking guy down some dingy alley, people don’t often smoke while walking down the street. In japan they have designated little bins in one area that everyone stops to smoke next to and then butt their cigarettes out at = http://www.japanwindow.com/images/20060708042409_060615_ww06.jpg and also a lot of little smoking booths, especially in train stations and such, http://online.wsj.com/media/smoker_D_20101207013829.jpg

    In comparison to AUSTRALIA, esp melb, I am forever breathing in disgusting second hand smoke while walking down the street even though Australia has very similar laws to what you said about Canada, they still think it’s okay to blow it in ur face and flick burning ash on you while walking down the street :( boo.

    thanks for the interesting TL:DR :D

    3 years ago
  35. Ha! No. We stink eye sometimes, but that’s about it.

    3 years ago
    • I stink eye, cough at them and then just stay away from them giving them the “I hate your habits your son of a blob”

      3 years ago
  36. I was also one of the annoying little kids that told random strangers to quit smoking. Of course after losing my grandfather to lung cancer…that kind of impacted my thoughts on the whole disgusting habit (it’s seriously really really gross and I don’t understand why people want to stick that crap in their bodies…but if you really want to then go ahead)

    3 years ago
  37. MARTINA! YES! =D I refuse to date a smoker. Everyone keeps telling me I am ridiculous but, it’s a hygiene thing. I don’t want to be around it AT ALL.

    3 years ago
    • I don’t date a frequent smoker, but my boyfriend smokes every once in a blue moon, and only pipe tobacco or cigars. I’ve never seen him smoke a cigarette, he hates them. He’s actually started smoking even LESS than usual because of my allergies. Smoking isn’t really horrendous, it’s the addiction that cigarettes causes that is the culprit.

      3 years ago
  38. In New Zealand we’re not allowed to smoke inside and it’s recommended that you don’t even smoke in your home or car.. But unless you’re in the big cities (like Auckland the only place I experienced this) there will be people out smoking on the street.

    Everyone respects that smokers can do what they want as long as they don’t make others suffer because of it (Obviously outside of Auckland City).

    Smokes have chemicals that calm one down, so people under intense stress often smoke it’s sad really; I’d never touch one myself.

    3 years ago
  39. Finally, famous people who don’t advocate smoking! YAY! Thank you! Also, a question, how is smoking stuff other than tobacco (AHEM DRUGGSSS) in Korea?

    3 years ago
    • they are done in secrecy, so hard to tell… unlike europe of north america where teens open up about smoking weed or doing crack, koreans always hide it

      3 years ago
    • *insert GD joke here*

      No, but seriously: no famous people are against smoking? Not that we count as famous people, but…really? No one else is against it?

      3 years ago
      • well thats the thing about korea, they have all these idols (eg. dbsk, big bang) promoting anti smoking campaigns yet as soon as they finish filming these ads and the camera stop rolling they’ll light up a cigarette. So how do they expect these campaigns to be effective, who will take it seriously when the people behind the campaign themselves don’t listen to what they are promoting?

        3 years ago
      • I think Some do, Like possibly The Girls, mostly in my mind T-ara especailly Dani Hyomin Soyeon Areum and Jiyeon

        3 years ago
      • cough cough cough cough ;D

        3 years ago
      • Actually. jaejoong and yunho quoted smoking together,but after they split up, jaejoong went back smoking again. Not so sure about yunho though

        3 years ago
        • Jae still smokes and plans to quit at the end of the year because a tarot reader told him to

          3 years ago
        • Yeah I read that but it sounds so funny.He needs a tarot ready to tell him to do so

          3 years ago
        • Yunho still smoked post-lawsuit again…It was spotted while he was filming.

          3 years ago
      • haha yessss especially with jaechun being chain smokers I was like lol you funny but hey, they still sound great (and better than most) so its their choice I guess.

        3 years ago
      • hey hey guys, why all the fingers pointing at GD? i mean, TOP smokes too :D he was even seen doing it in the making of Love Song (bing bong bell) music video XD

        anyway, i’m so glad to see someone fun and famous voice out their strong anti-smoking sentiments openly. i was just smiling and nodding along to the things u said, because it’s so true. i dunno why ppl smoke, is it so cool to do so? GD still looks pretty energetic on stage (solo world tour, solo album promotions), but i guess he could do better. not that he needs to…

        3 years ago
      • Does Changmin smoke? Or did he? I know Yunho did or possibly still does. JaeChun certainly do.

        3 years ago
        • Changmin smokes too… We found out from when Yunho and Changmin went to Shanghai and another time when they were in Australia.

          3 years ago
      • In SoCal at least, smoking culture has become so “cool” that I’ve seen very few instances of celebrities actually speaking up against it. Holy poo. If people show disdain, they are labeled as prudes of sorts. Because it’s cool to kill yourself. Woohoo! AND OF COURSE YOU GUYS ARE FAMOUS. ERRMYGAWD

        3 years ago
        • I grew up in socal in the Inland Empire area and I left about five years ago now and I still go back every vacation and I don’t particularly see MORE smokers as there have always been smokers but they stay pretty clear of the sidewalks and shopping areas so it’s pretty rare to see them anywhere besides in their car and especially on the freeway or highways.

          3 years ago
        • Maybe about smoking weed but when it comes to cigarettes no one thinks it’s cool.

          3 years ago
        • I wish, i live in an affluent part of SD and there are butts everywhere.

          3 years ago
    • Very serious. Korea, China, and Japan have very serious consequences for drug use.

      3 years ago
      • tobacco is a drug lolol but it’s legalized obviously. I hate China’s smoking culture. It’s the worst. don’t know if they improved but I seriously highly doubt it. Hong Kong included.

        3 years ago
  40. I’m right there with you guys. i DETEST smoking and hate when people do it around me. i’m thankful that here in the U.S. there’s a pretty large separation of smoking and nonsmoking (especially indoors). can’t imagine what it must be like to have to be surrounded by it constantly!

    3 years ago