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The Threat of North Korea

March 14, 2013

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Ok, so this is a rather serious TL;DR we’re talking about. No fun and jokes here. The question asked us to talk about the North Korea situation and what it’s like here in South Korea.

DISCLAIMER:
We’re not knowledgeable about the political situation here. We’re just talking about our experiences. If you want more technical/knowledgable info, this isn’t the place for it.
/DISCLAIMER:

Ok, so now that that’s out of the way, I’d like to go back to our point from the video about how often we hear these threats from North Korea, and about how – to people outside of Korea – the situation seems a lot worse than it actually is. We think this is mostly thanks to the Western Media’s habit of making things seem worse than they actually are, because big, scary headlines sell more newspapers and get more viewers.

The problem with the fear mongering is that, if you’re viewing the situation from the outside, it’s difficult to get an accurate look of what things are like on the inside. From what everyone’s been telling us, things are scary here in South Korea…from an outsider’s perspective. As a result, people are worried about coming to South Korea now. Thoughts like “Should I visit? What happens if the war starts!?” or “maybe I shouldn’t teach in Korea because North Korea’s gonna bust things up.” Thoughts like this totally suck for South Korea, because it’s not necessarily fair. And, really, if we had followed that advice when we first started our careers, our lives would be totally different now, and we wouldn’t have experienced so many awesome things from living in this country. Should our lives have been put on halt until North Korea stopped making so much racket? Should yours? North Korea has been annoying for a long time and probably will continue being annoying for a long time. Our lives can’t just be put on hold until North Korea gets their act together.

And what about people living in South Korea? Should their lives be put on hold as well? From an inside perspective of South Korea, things are no different than they normally are. People are still going to work. People are still going to play. People are still living their lives like they’ve always been. North Korean threats are things that we’re all used to by now. North Korea is just really freaking annoying; they’re like your noisy obnoxious neighbour that you have to learn to live with. You just wish they’d shut the f**k up once and for all and stop embarrassing you when you have friends or family over for dinner.

So, that’s basically it. North Korea is annoying. They make threats all the time. They love talking about destructive water. Should we worry about them? Well, if we want to count a threats-to-action conversion rate, North Korea’s not doing too well. Could they do something, though? That’s not even worth thinking about, in my opinion. Meteors could hit as well. I feel more of an immediate threat driving in taxis than I feel threatened from North Korea (because taxis here are craaaazy). When it comes to how we feel about North Korea, we’re not going to live in doom and gloom and fear because of what seems like a small possibility. We’re going to keep on living our lives, and it seems like the people of South Korea are doing the same as well.

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  1. I’m going to Seoul at the end of the month for almost a week and my mom is really worried about North Korea. Like she keeps telling me not to go to the DMZ (not that that was on my plan) and to not leave Seoul (but what about Busan?) and to never go out alone, etc. Maybe if I show her this video, it will help to allay her fears?

    3 years ago
  2. Thank you for this video. Your last point was actually what rang through my mind thinking about any possible conflicts. I have several friends whose husbands or brothers are in the US army, and they talk often about missing them and fearing for them during deployments, etc. IF anything should happen I would worry for individuals in the army more.

    3 years ago
  3. Thanks for this TL;DR guise. When I read the media here in the US I get kinda worried about my son in Seoul (adopting, waiting for him to be approved to come here). They really do sensationalize EVERYTHING. This made me feel a lot better… thinking that my son could get bombed at any second is really silly actually. I might as well stay in the house for fear that I’ll get run over by a car. You guys rock!

    3 years ago
  4. I lived in Korea for a year and North Korea wasn’t even a factor in my life until I visited the DMZ and only then when we were right at panmunjeom where the guards from both sides stand face to face. Then I wasn’t too excited about the potential of getting my face sniped if I turned the wrong way (It was a class trip and they’re quite strict about where you can and can’t look so I basically just stayed forward facing). After that, I just went about my daily business as normal. All the Koreans I met don’t really care much about North Korea at all. That’s not to say that they think that NK is a joke. It’s just that there are more pressing matters to worry about, such as not being run over by a taxi which was mentioned in the post, or getting a good grade/good job placement. The only scorching/”sea of flames” I had to deal with was from the summer heat. Pretty sure I was about ready to melt/burst into flames/overall perish.

    3 years ago
  5. Martina looks soooooo prettyyy

    3 years ago
  6. So in South Korea, no f**s are given no matter what North Korea says. Sounds like a meme.

    3 years ago
  7. I lived in Korea when the Yeonpyeong island bombing happened. I was a bit freaked, but everyone assured me that it was okay and were so blase about it.
    However, my parents back in the UK were going nuts, and when I looked at the BBC news coverage of the events – I could see why. It really was a dramatically different account of what was happening. I take everything with a healthy pinch of salt these days…

    3 years ago
  8. Thanks for clearing this up because I think at least once a day on my twitter news feed BBC News tweets something about some threat for the last past month.
    Just before the 2010 FIFA World Cup the International media exaggerated crime in South Africa and the year before the London Olympics 2012 the International media exaggerated safety in London because of the 2011 London/England Riots.

    3 years ago
  9. Be safe guys. :-)

    3 years ago
  10. Thank you for some peace of mind. My dad is in the army and my brother the marines, so the news has has me worried. Now I can breathe a little easier. Lol

    3 years ago
  11. I love Conan O’Brien’s take on this: “North Korea is the Chris Brown of countries”.

    3 years ago
  12. You’re Swedish too? =D heeej~ (sorry I guess this counts as spam or whatever. Just a cool coincidence xD) *Lund*

    3 years ago
  13. Something my friend showed me (that we found kind of amusing) and totally fits with your vibe on the situation. It even has the “sea of flames” bit in there XP. Thanks for managing to keep a light heart on this more serious TL;DR!
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/north-korea-threatens-new-zealand-with-nuclear-strike-nothing-we-can-do-says-key/

    3 years ago
  14. Why do north korea do this ? WHYYYYY ???
    I HATE THEM. Because I end up thinking about 2ne1 and their comeback.
    And my teachers her in norway where all like ” as you now what is happening
    In shout and north korea if I were you I wouldnt go to korea
    Right now” and when I got home and read the news paper I got really
    Scared because I have relatives in Busan and Seoul.

    3 years ago
    • It’s simple: MONEYYYY!!!

      The country really has no way to support itself so from time to time they make this threats, like testing ridiculously low power nuclear weapons, so the International community negotiate with them for more money. In exchange NK has to agree with some conditions, like stopping their nuclear and ballistic missile program and if they violate those agreements there are repercussions, i. e., sanctions.

      They piiiiiiissed because this time sanctions were made on luxury goods, like cars, yachts, jewelry, etc. Every nation has to comply to those sanctions including their old pals in China where they usually get this things from. They seem more angry this time because it’s not gonna affect the people but the core of the regime, which are the one with the money.

      And this goes on, and on, and on for years, it’s like a dog chasing its tail, and no one really knows how to stop it.

      3 years ago
    • 2ne1 comeback hahaha.. omg, you did watch the video right? and the message Martina and Simon were trying to get across? >.>”!!

      3 years ago
    • did you even watch the video???

      3 years ago
  15. Thank you for this video!!

    I’ve been living in S.Korea for almost 3 weeks (almost nothing), but every time I talk with my family and friends they’re so worry, and honestly here everybody acts normal, no one seems to care a lot about it, sometimes even I forget it until someone ask me about it again.

    I still hope everything turns out fine for everyone here tho, I’m pretty sure everything will be great :)

    3 years ago
  16. When we were preparing for our trip to Korea two years ago, another NK threat went out. Since this was the first time in a LONG time I would be traveling there, I couldn’t help but feel a little nervous. Both my dad, who was in the Army and twice stationed in Korea, and my mom, who lives in Seoul, told us that it was nothing for us to be concerned about because it wasn’t anything new to them. They were passive about it like they were waving away a bad scent.
    As we’re preparing for our upcoming trip, I find myself more irritated than worried from the more recent threats. My friend’s mom is going to be SO nervous for us until we actually come back from our trip, just like last time. xD;;

    3 years ago
  17. Exactly when I was living in Seoul, Kim Jong Il died, that they we went to the airport to fetch a friend and we arrive later to Seoul Station, there we saw a lot of Ajjusshis sitting on chairs infront of the TV at the station and watching very focused about the News… That’s the only thing I saw that was a little bit different.

    3 years ago
  18. It’s really interesting that the news that is most hype about the situation is not even in South Korea. I know some people here in the US who have the idea of two crazy countries about to go to war. My boyfriend who is half Korean was the only person I know who described things like Simon and Martina did, so hearing this from you guys who live there was interesting!
    ~ Hope you guys can go fly your kites later :3 ~

    3 years ago
  19. So North Korea is just acting like those kids that are threating to tell your parents on you to get you into trouble but dont really?

    3 years ago
  20. When I lived in Korea, I lived in the city with the headquarters of the military. We always saw military men, helicopters, fighter jets and army vehicles driving around. I first arrived just as the naval ship was attacked, so like you guys, my family was freaking out. Then within my first week of teaching, the air raid siren went off. I looked out the window and people were ignoring it and my co-teachers didn’t seem concerned either. I was freaking out but of course, no one had warned me that it was just a drill. Over the two years I lived there, the most tense time was actually when the North attacked those South Korean islands. I even got an email from the Canadian Consulate of what to pack in case we needed to be evacuated from the country. That was scary! However, a lot of my students were from military families and even my co-teacher’s husband was a colonel in the air force. I was calmed by knowing that I only had to worry if parents started showing up for their kids in army fatigues… which never happened. And my co-teacher always had the inside information! I eventually came to learn that living in city with the headquarters of the military was probably the safest place I could live! (And watching fighter jets pull stunts right over my apartment building wasn’t so bad either!)
    But like you guys said, despite the North’s promises of total destruction, every day life in Korea is normal and typical South Koreans don’t really worry about it. It’s really the media that hypes things up. I mean, CNN international is the WORST for that – especially during that island attack. They were constantly giving “updates” on the situation that were just not true, yet saying that “any little miscommunication could lead to war on the Korean peninsula”. Really guyz? Anyhoo, that’s my experience with “war” in Korea!

    3 years ago
  21. Oh thank you for this! i may show this to my mom. Ugh. I’m going to be visiting SK in Sept by myself and she keeps telling me “all the bad things NK is doing”…sigh… (you’d think i would know before her as i follow people living in SK on twitter and SK news as well…) Hopefully if i get a job teaching over there in a year or so, this will have blown over a bit…
    Thanks. :)

    3 years ago
  22. I was in Seoul the day the “attack” was supposed to happen… man… I bought so many nice clothes. hehe.

    3 years ago
  23. Great TL;DR guys – I’ve been reading/watching/hearing all over the place in America about the NK threat. It’s been a little disconcerting to then see how little it seems to be impacting SK. Thanks for the reminder that the media is a commercial venture, and reality is something else altogether. Also, thank you for giving a shout out to the SK, NK, and US troops that will actually be involved up close. Very thoughtful video all around.

    3 years ago
  24. Nic

    I really hate how the Western media portrays things. I got really angry a few weeks ago because of the way they talked about an upcoming story on the news. This was the world news on a station that is seen to be more serious. The news announcer said, “And coming up, South Korea prepares for war.”
    To me, that sounded like really preparing for war because of the likelihood of an invasion. I start looking on news sites but couldn’t find anything definite, I text my (Korean husband) at work to see if he has heard anything, which then caused him alarm because of course his family is in Korea and he’d be obligated to go back and help if there is a war. Finally the news showed that segment and it was just some journalist going to have a look at the STANDARD drills the South Korean army does near the border, and interviewing some of the soldiers. I just felt it was so irresponsible to talk about the news segment like that, when there is the threat of North Korea in peoples’ minds, just to make people not turn off the TV. Although technically you could say South Korea is preparing for war- they always are. It was not a knew thing and to have a misleading headline caused fear in people’s hearts.

    If I’m reading the news these days I try to just try to read opinion pieces from knowledgeable people. Instead of the way the general media hypes things up, it’s better to read what an expert is saying, also because it puts it much more into perspective.

    3 years ago
    • Isn’t Seoul in south korea because the news here in America was talking about North Korea but South Korea was located. (Off topic) My mom doesn’t really want to go to South Korea with me because I want to go but once I know the language more but she says no, kids get sexually harassed and they get punshied badly, but when I hear her say this I just get mad and watch EYK but isn’t my mom thinking about the wrong Korea. Some One ANSWER ME

      3 years ago
      • Nic

        What is your question exactly? Your mother confuses North and South Korea?

        3 years ago
        • I think so. Any ways she sometimes says (well not anymore since the reports haven’t come up here in the USA in a while) that kids get punished badly. But I Know that this isn’t true for the most part thanks for replying.

          3 years ago
        • Nic

          Yeah children may be punished in a different way to the US, it all depends, but to say a big statement like “kids get sexually harassed” is just wrong and offensive. It also has nothing to do with visiting Korea either, so sounds like your mother may just be trying to find any reason to not visit Korea. For younger generations, the world is now more international place and more of us want to travel, but for your mother, perhaps because of how she grew up, travelling to another country may be a frightening idea for her. Particularly if she doesn’t have a clear idea of what the difference between North and South Korea is.

          Maybe you could get her to read some travel sites about South Korea or, if she doesn’t use the internet much, getting some brochures from a travel agency about Korea that present South Korea in an exciting and beautiful way. That may help her realise that a lot of her ideas about South Korea are wrong. http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/index.kto

          3 years ago
        • Thanks but I think it might just be because I don’t like traveling that much but for South Korea I’ll make an exception. :p Silly me. Sorry if I put you into toomuch trouble

          3 years ago
    • Although it’s a trivial comparison, that reminds me of something you’d see on a gossip magazine. “[Insert celebrity here] is pregnant!” go to the article inside and all it talks about is how her stomach looks a little bloated or she put her hand on her stomach, or even that she mentioned wanting a kid, not that she’s pregnant. They put a really insane heading, stretching the truth really far, just so people will watch/buy their product. It’s really dishonest for them to do something like that, especially when it’s a serious matter like war.

      3 years ago
    • I’ve learned long ago to never trust the media 100% I take evrything the media reports with a grain of salt and search for more information myself if I’m really interested. To me I think the media is one of the most powerful thing in the world because it can be so manipulative and brainwashing on a massive scale, and really it forms the way people grow up and where everyone’s opinions stem from. It’s funny because I’m only 15 and I already hate the media XD

      3 years ago
    • Agreed.
      I stopped watching TV altogether when I was in college and that hasn’t changed once I was out. One, I just got used to not watching TV and didn’t feel the need to keep up with any particular shows. Thanks to the interwebz, I can always find something to watch if I wish. Two, the news is too jumbled between truth and wanna-be truth. I find that I still hear about the important things through the grape vine, once it’s been, um, filtered in the good way.
      Great video all around as per usual. =)

      3 years ago
  25. I’ve been thinking the news media here in the US has been controlling people through fear for ages now. it’s one of the reasons I’d rather not live here much longer. lol As far as NK is concerned, let them launch rockets, we don’t own space! lol

    3 years ago
  26. Thank you Simon and Martina for posting this video!

    I’m not born in Korea and I do worry about the issue between North and South Korea, and this video really helped me to understand the situation better.

    By the way, I absolutely love all your videos, and I look forward to every single TL:DR and Music Monday! That feeling of excitement when my front youtube page has a new video, I simply can’t describe it :D
    The line, “OH YOU SO NASTYYYYYYY” and Simon doing his thing with AYYYYYY GURL simply makes my day like ALL THE TIME HAHA.

    3 years ago
  27. the effect of globalization.This thing with the war and North Korea are presented way too dramatically at Tv.

    3 years ago
  28. Just stop being annoying North Korea!!!

    3 years ago
  29. I would agree with you on this topic as a general impression living in Korea. However the recent political actions of North Korea seems to be a little bit more of a concern here it seems I’ve been asking around to my Korean coworkers and there seems to be more alarm/concern with the most recent events. Even my students brought it up in class about how worried they were. So although no one is panicking just yet, it seems like Korea has heightened its concern for this recent move from N. Korea compared to the reactions from the past.

    3 years ago
  30. We were there a few years with the U.S. army. Our families freaked out when they heard about us having gas masks in our closet. They issue them to every family member as soon as you get here. We never even thought about it. Never once did I feel unsafe. Korea was actually the safest place we have ever been. Coming back to America with out children was actually much scarier for us. We always got a good laugh when people asked if we were scared. My mother came to visit right around the time a new threat was released. Once she saw how people responded she understood why we never paid any attention to the news trying to freak people out. My husband was there when the ship got hit. He said the military members freaked out a lot. But the Korean soldiers only seemed upset about the loss of lives. None of them thought it would lead to more fighting.

    3 years ago
  31. I so totally agree. I’m currently a student studying in South Korea and I was also here last semester. My friend from Croatia that was here last semester messaged me asking if everything was okay, and I’m like of course it is. Why wouldn’t it be? She said the news was making a big deal out of it, I was actually really surprised. Even in Croatia the news is harping on about it. When North Korea can actually successfully shoot off a missile then we should start worrying, until then don’t bother.

    3 years ago
  32. Thank u so much for this <3 Im so much calmer now

    3 years ago
  33. yes.I want to go and study in Seoul but all my friends and family tell me the same thing”there is a war,you can get killed,look how many things are presented at Tv”. In fact,the whole world is in a war,all the countries are in possible danger.If you’re about to die,you die,no matter where you are…

    3 years ago
  34. The North is like my ex-boyfriend. Talk a lot and do nothing. :D

    3 years ago
    • Hitler also talked a lot about war,destroying whole nations,Nordic race etc. for decade before WW2…and not even year before WW2 Britain and France signed Munich agreement with Hitler and Mussolini and thought peace is guaranteed.

      3 years ago
      • As a Political Science student (which by no means makes me an authority… but an authority over those that just look at headlines) and someone who is a bit of an enthusiast for east asian politics, here is my perspective.

        First, connecting it with Hitler and WW2 is flawed. There are more wars that have been avoided despite harsh rhetoric than entered because of it (USA and USSR the biggest example of harsh rhetoric and no war, proxy wars naturally being excluded). Also, North Korea is a satellite state, and almost always has been in one form or another for one nation or another. Germany was a super power coming into WW1 (before you think im referring to the wrong war, hang on), and then was in a few short years forced to be Europes weakling… with strong pride, strong intellectuals, a once strong economy and mighty military… WW2 it has been argued was guaranteed once the Treaty of Versailles was established. And in all seriousness, it was poor international policy to set up that horribly lop-sided treaty, especially when it was a war in shades of grey.

        Second, the chinese factor. China is in a delicate situation at the moment, and has been building up a strong economy with a burgeoning and demanding middle class coming out as a result. Last thing it wants is to divert economic resources, time, and political strain (disrupting the balance they’re maintaining) by feeling obligated to back up a small ally whose only real purpose is to serve as a buffer zone between US/SK and China. In the coldwar the Korean peninsula was seen by Mao as a driveway into China, and needed some control over it. When the US general (name escapes me atm, google it), decided to go against UN orders and keep pushing up to the Chinese border, China acted in a pre-emptive defence and saved North Koreas ass.

        North korea is by no means a necessary ally for China, and China would pull all the stops behind the scenes to make sure this war does not escalate. That being said, nothing is guaranteed, and if you have a crazy person in lead then there is 0 predictability.

        The thing is, Kim jr. is probably not crazy, this is a strategic move on his part to show a strong front to his people in reaction to international pressures applied to his country. He needs to appear strong, but he wont cross the line into war because that would only lead to North Korea either becoming rubble, or even more dependant on China… with Kim probably dead/prosecuted in its wake (doubt China would allow that bloodline/leadership to live on if he forced them to defend NK). This rhetoric is meant to be heard by domestic crowds rather than international ones, he is consolidating power at his first chance with this tough headbutting on the international stage. He will take it to a point, then a behind the scene deal will be struck, and you will see rhetoric appear less.

        This is all working in the frame of a rational world…. shit happens as they say, but chances are it wont, and in the rhetoric it is always shy of saying it will make a clear attack on SK, it has been more focused on saying things like ‘we will blah blah blah IF we are provoked’, that ‘if’ is a big deal in the world of rhetoric.

        Another sign of all this being bullshit (but certainly not the sole sign), the factory in North Korea, but along the border, that hosts South Korean employees is still active. The economy in that area relies heavily on the companies situated there, and would have economic problems if those factories were forced to close.

        3 years ago
        • And then.. they were closed… (the factories)

          3 years ago
        • Noooowwww its shut down.

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22011207

          Still, dont see anything happening, but I’ll concede and say its probably more concerning depending on how long they keep it going or if its just a temporary thing.

          I have a feeling UN will eventually mediate something now that Ban Ki Moon has spoken up about it, If not it could get out of hand depending on domestic pressures amongst elite in North Korea (and what they expect of the new leader) and how far NK really does intend to push the rhetoric (there comes a point when rhetoric does need to be backed up or you completely ruin your image in the future. Cry wolf kind of thing…. then again as Simon and Martina have pointed out, that’s kind of already happened).

          However, rhetoric part can be saved by UN granted that they give NK something to chew on, which could be a hard sell for US.

          P.S. Someone debate with me :( Im bored and need to procrastinate things

          3 years ago
    • This comment is pure gold! Lmao xD

      3 years ago
  35. I moved to Seoul 2 weeks ago and the “danger of living here” is mentioned in every Skype date I have. I’m so glad you posted this! Thank you!

    3 years ago
  36. BRUHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA… SEA OF FIRE, OCEAN OF DESTRUCTION, WHAT NEXT??

    3 years ago
  37. Yeah, I have North Korean and South Korean classmates in my class and it’s not like they openly hate or fear each other, I’ve seen them talk occasionally too… When I asked, the South Koreans basically just told me “It’s kinda awkward, but we can see they’re good people so ~meh~”

    3 years ago
  38. My parents are coming to visit next week and I had to have this exact talk with them this morning.

    3 years ago
    • Cari! Haven’t seen you here in a while!

      3 years ago
      • I somehow thought three philosophy courses was a good idea this semester, but now that add/drop period is over and I’ve got my schedule down I’m back in the game!

        3 years ago
        • Philosophy doesn’t make you Emo, it just lets you explain being Emo…in ways most people don’t understand…anyways…

          3 years ago
        • They’re really making me question myself.
          Am I a human dreaming of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming of being a human?

          3 years ago
        • Hey: do you actually exist, or is everything happening in my head? You can’t prove that I’m not hallucinating.

          3 years ago
        • Well, if this is all a dream, I just hope I wake up before I have to take these finals…

          3 years ago
  39. I approve this message. I’ll be moving to South Korea in August and my whole family is freaking out about it. I may show them this post and be like “see? it’s not just me, they think the same thing.”

    3 years ago
    • The first time i went to Korea my parents were rather cool, maybe because it was kinda quit during that time but my grandparents panicked Now I’ll be going to Korea in summer, staying there a week and prepare myself mentally to listen to all the concerns my family will shower me with just to tell them, that i’ll be going anyway ;)

      3 years ago
    • I actually don’t know anyone who freaks out about South Korea/North Korea conflicts, with many friends and peers who study/travel there o.o Perhaps it’s just where I live/the types of people I know (mostly Asian American)? I also feel like N. Korea threatens the US often enough that a lot of us are just like “Here they go again…”

      3 years ago
    • I’m hoping once I’ve been there for a while my family will be like that too. Especially once they visit and can see what it’s like for themselves.

      3 years ago
    • My mother is the same. The first time I was going to go to Korea, it got cancelled because I was just about to book my tickets when NK shelled the SK island and my mother was so worried about war that I ended up not going.

      And now, I have another trip planned to South Korea in the end of June, since my boyfriend (who is in the SK army) will have 1.5 weeks free then and it’ll be a rare time for us to have that much time together during his time in the army. But mom is sort of starting to warn me that maybe I can’t go etc, while in my mind I am Definitely going this time.
      And even if there was a war coming, that’d just be even more of a reason for me to go; to see him before he’d have to potentially get called to battle right?

      3 years ago
      • Ah! First time I went to the US (not same situation, I know) , it was December… 2011. Yeah. I had booked my tickets just after September, I think. Even then my family didn’t want me to go. Pfft, I went anyway and had an awesome time.

        3 years ago
  40. Makes me wonder how much of the news is sensationalized, how much is propaganda, and how much of it is real?

    3 years ago
    • South Korea has always taken North Korea’s threats as serious and I agree they should. However, I still think a big portion of how it’s portrayed, by the media, is sensationalized and propaganda. There is a very us vs them mentality. Where they’re the evil enemy that must be fought and conquered and we’re the good guys that are saving everyone from the evil commies.

      3 years ago
    • I sometimes think that myself. There seem to be some things that just don’t add up for me

      1) North Korea detonates nuke
      2) World sanctions North Korea to prevent making more nukes
      3) North Korea threatens to nuke people as a result.

      How does that make sense? It’s like saying “give me money so I can buy a gun to shoot you. No? Well then I’ll shoot you” Or am I missing something here? That just seems too illogical a conclusion to make. Maybe I’m missing out on the point of the sanctions here…

      3 years ago
      • True, plus they only have that nuke. All they do is make one nuke,test it out, make another one, and do the same thing over and over again. To me it seems like they are going to spend all their time making a nuke and testing it out since it seems like they are never going to make more than one nuke. Their threats are empty to me, kinda like Draco yelling “WAIT UNTIL MY FATHER HEARS ABOUT THIS!” Empty. Just empty to me.

        Kim Jong Un just wants to seem powerful when he is not powerful at all. I also hate it when people say that everyone from North Korea is horrible. When they are starving and going through a lot, and it is not like they could leave. They probably can not leave at all. I am 25% North Korean and 25% South Korean, that does not make me a horrible person.

        Anyways I am bleeping mad, many people say that they know all about this situation to make an inference that everyone from North Korea is horrible and monsters. One, you probably know nothing about the current situation and two, just because the dictator is bad does not mean that North Koreans are.

        Sorry, people keep asking me to tell North Korea to stop. And keep saying everyonne from Korea just create trouble. But hun if you knew the history between the two you would know why. And North Korea’s dictator is the one creating trouble, not the people he “rules”.

        3 years ago
      • Mav

        The sanctions are like paying a mobster to let you run your bar without his people trashing it…. The thing is that all the DPRK talk is more of a power play inside DPRK it self. Kim Jong Un needs this threats and episodes to reinforce his dictatorship. Think of Napoleon in Animal Farm, he did not do much to aid the revolution but sailed along and manage to maintain power mostly thanks to his attack dogs and his propaganda spinner Squealer. All this threats are Kim Jong Un’s attack dogs, there to legitimize a power he inherited, not work for.

        That being said/ written, dictators are not driven by any other reason but maintaining power, that makes them all unpredictable, and in Kim Jong Un’s case his relative youth it a worrisome factor. However, for something to happen is extremely unlikely, North Korea need its allies to do anything (mainly China) which would rather avoid complications.

        3 years ago
      • Someone needs to call Dennis Rodman. I’m sure he can explain everything.

        3 years ago
      • Kes

        I think it’s more like “Give me money so I can buy more bullets for this gun I already have. No? Well then I’ll shoot you with one of the only bullets I have.”

        3 years ago
      • Haha lol I wonder what they will say next…

        3 years ago