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So, a while ago, back in November or so, we filmed a shoot with Channel Ten in Australia, which – from what we’ve been told – is one of the biggest networks in Australia, if not THE biggest. Cool! They were shooting a documentary style video on Kpop and Korea, and they asked us to be on the show and give our input. You can see our section of the video starting at the 5:00 mark or so.

Gotta say, it was really weird when that show aired, because so many people were sending us pictures of their TVs, and tweets were rolling in of people excited to see us. It was really cool! We couldn’t actually see ourselves on TV, but we could see people’s TV’s at least:

Eatyourkimchi Channel Ten Australia

Great thing about this also was that some of our closest friends from Korea are now living in Australia, and they just happened to be watching the TV when we came on, and they had a freakout and messaged us, and we were reminded about how much we miss them. THANKS CHANNEL TEN FOR MAKING US SAD! Ha, no, that’s silly. We were really happy to hear from them :D

Anyhow, this video was shot back in November, and it just aired this past Monday. Yay! Someone was nice enough to put it on YouTube, but we weren’t sure if it was going to be taken down instantly, seeing how it’s not an official upload, but it’s still up so I think it’s safe to say that it slipped under their radar? I’m not sure! Hopefully it won’t get taken down. If it does get taken down, you can watch it here on the official channel, though it seems like it’s region blocked. We can’t see it in Korea, and we’re not savvy enough with VPNs to be able to figure it out.

Back to the video itself, it was really well done! We’re total geeks for editing, so the way they used text effects in the video was super cool, with the waving moving away our text and whatnot. The timing was really quite perfect, because we were waving to a Nasty passing by, and the text at the time was of people viewing our blog, so, to us, we had a good laugh.

There’s a lot that got cut out of our section. We went to Times Square for an Epik High fansigning, which is where you see that quick shot of us posing with a fan for a picture. They didn’t include much of what we said for the fansigning event. Understandable. They shoot a ton of footage and then try to cram it all into a 22 minute video. We shot with them for, like, six hours.

Anyhow, let us know what you think! And, on a related media side note, we were also talked about in the Wall Street Journal recently. Double shazaam! It’s a video talking about the Singapore event. Jasper, who ran the whole Music Matters event, was a super awesome guy and just lovely to work with; he talks about developing a following on YouTube and YouTube stardom and whatnot. Odd to hear us talked about in the same sentence. Point is, he talked about the Airport incident at Singapore and how many awesome Nasties were there. Yay! Thanks to all you awesome Singaporean Nasties for helping us make the news!

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  1. when my sister and I were watching this on tv we had no idea that eyk was going to come on. so we started jumping around the room screaming like idiots, we probably looked like idiots too…

  2. Not sure what to think of this *lol*

    I will go with ” it was ok ” . Eventhou it was 22 minutes long, it felt really short. The subject of this is just to wide to cover everything or at least something in a short period as 22 minutes. If one would want to make a docu on kpop, to cover most maybe an hour or more would be needed. ( xD )

    Such a theme would need alot more information and an episode or two just based on kpop.

    On a side-note: S&M’s part was soooo short >.< !

  3. That would be so awesome if there were black and white kpop artists soon!

  4. A KPOP Factory?
    Please say he meant set… when you refer to it as a factory, it sounds horrible! =/

  5. OMG when I saw you guys on my tv I almost died and went to heaven. The funny thing was that I was just channel surfing that night because nothing was on lol

  6. Aww you guys!! Just read this now! Decided I needed to have a re-watch as I was in such a tizzy the first time round haha it honestly made our week!! Ps. I’m afraid that photo is copyright-ed! Ha :p

  7. wait was this the time simon and martina said they missed out on the gogostar concert or am wrong?

  8. Guys funny thing is, everyone hates channel ten. They are the worst channel out here I’m sorry to say.

    However congrats! Im happy you were on aussie tv, heaven knows we need more quality content! (Esp on 10 :P)

  9. EYK and LunaFly in the same video! :D Double special!!!!

  10. Yep I’m living in Australia and yeah… Channel Ten has like extra channels called One and Eleven… But channel Nine has a sub channel called GO that reminds me of MBLAQ’s G.O all the time LOL

    but i kinda fangirled when Simon and Martina came on LOL I MEAN THAT’S THE CLOSEST I’VE SEEN SIMON AND MARTINA OTHER THAN ON MY LAPTOP :P

  11. Okay. TOTALLY FREAKING AWESOME THAT EYK WAS ON TV. They’re all famous now and schtuff so proud <3

    Something urks me about the video though. Like others have pointed out already, the stance they took in the video is that the South Korean government is using K-pop as a weapon to show how powerful SK is. I disagree on this point because I think of Hallyu as an East Asian Pop Culture that got spread around the world, over the internet. I find it slightly rude that they think of K-pop as a strategy… It's just like Anime and Manga and any other culture that not native but popular in any place. Yeah. I'm trying to keep calm and not swear and be insane fangirl on Chanel 10 soooooo.. yup.

  12. omg i love that EVOL got a spot, i really enjoyed Get Up :)
    it feels so weird to hear an aussie guy speak about kpop, maybe cause im aussie myself LOL

  13. I understand what you mean, but most Australians are friendly and approachable to people of different cultures and races. In the 10 years that I’ve been living in Australia, it’s very evident that there are a lot of people from Asia, India, Africa, and the Pacific Islands emigrating over here to start a new life. The bad eggs (some older Australians, or those of lower socio-economic status) ‘fear’ that the ‘White Australia’ they had lived in is being ‘diluted’ or ‘supplanted’ by persons of colour, which is why they say, “Go back to where you came from”. It’s sad to see that the reputation of Australians is in a poor light, but for the most part, Aussies are good people.

    I think the doco attempted to show Kpop in a balanced light (albeit editing can sometimes spin things one way or another), and to non-Kpoppers, it shows the sometimes not so glamorous things we tend to put aside. Having Simon and Martina on the show at least showed some insight into what we live about Kpop.

  14. there’s hardly any xenophobia in australia considering a lot of Australia’s major cities are predominantly heavily populated with all different sort of Asians. Like in Melbourne and Sydney we have Korea Town, China Town, and a suburb called Springvale which is heavily populated of Vietnamese and Chinese inhabitants. Trust me, Its a small portion of australians who are xenophobic such as a stupid politician called Pauline Hansen and low budget shows like the The Truth is, that portray us Australians in that way :).

  15. OMG ! Channel ten is the biggest network in Australia, its the most watched! You guys are so lucky! I was so happy when i heard from my dad that you will be on channel 10! (My dad works for Channel 10 and asked me about you guys). So happy for you guys!!

  16. I couldn’t watch the eye surgery bit. Why would someone do that to their eyes?!?! Leave eyes alone! They’re too delicate!
    Anywayz I was defo excited when you were on the show! Also if k-pop is meant to be good for your health then I must be the healthiest person alive lolz jk :D

  17. Even if I’m a kpop lover, I’ve always been aware that the Hallyu wave is a big sociological and economic phenomenon…it’s obvious, since it is the expression of a culture and a clear effect of globalization and new technology.
    As every human thing, it has good and bad points, and it’s obvious that people will try to understand it using different reasoning tool, often influenced by prejudices…it’s part of the game guys!
    Studying communication for 5 years I’ve learned it: this is inevitable when you try to understand and talk about social phenomena that are not still well known!

  18. It’s funny because Korean products sell themselves. They have such super cool & kawaii gadgets that you can’t find made anywhere else. Japanese products are like that too & they don’t use J-pop to try to entice foreigners. It’s hard to find j-pop MV’s. The only thing that’s ever tempted me are the Korean dramas. They have awesome looking phones, unique clothing, & neat gadgets. Well modern ones anyway. The historical ones get you interested in antiques :)

  19. That’s stereotypical Australian? I live in Melbourne an no ones like that.

    • I live in Melbourne too and 90% of people are like that

      • do you live in Frankston??? Go to the city! Go to Broadmmeadows! Go to Footscray! Go to 80% of the suburbs and you’ll find that most Australians in Melbourne at least have different cultural backgrounds, either born overseas, or with parents from overseas. They aren’t xenophobic, we aren’t xenophobic! It’s almost impossible to be in this society. I’m a “white Australian” and there are so few of us that people find me fascinating. Sure, maybe bogans are uneducated and derogatory, but they represent a tiny portion of people. Argh, this is making me mad!

  20. Am i the only one that feels…territorial about this? I haven’t been part of the kpop fandom for very long but i still felt i sense of “ehh” about this video. First off, let me say im so proud that the bands and people that i know work so hard, and that sacrifice so much are getting the recognition they so rightly deserve, and that people are getting used to the idea of Asia being like Europe is to north Americans (in the sense that people think its cool, or its okay to move there and stuff). But on the other hand i really like being part of this close knit community of fan-girls and boarder line stalkers (lets face it we are all like that with at least ONE member of a group…i know i am…:D) and i feel like if it was to get too big it would lose the essence of its uniqueness and kind of mold to fit fans of non-Asian countries, and the community of actual fans would turn into a GIANT populace of “sorta-kinda” fans. Not to mention if this is just a fad for some countries, what happens if Korea becomes too dependent on this export and then the novelty wears off… I don’t, know that just my personal opinion; I am still very proud of South Korea and it’s Idols! And don’t get me wrong, i would love to be able to walk into hmv and pick up an ACTUAL HARD COPY CD of a band, or (lord please!) be able to go to a concert that ins’t a five hour flight away from where i live in some major city in the states or on either side of Canada once in a blue moon.

    Sorry for the super long post, it just this is something that has always been lurking in the back of my mind!
    im really happy that u guys got to be on this show (just rakin’ in the invites to broadcasting events ;P)!

    • i totally agree. its a freaking dilemma. like you want them to get recognized but u feel a bit weird when they get too famous n everybody likes them (kinda). I kinda have this feeling toward S&M too. but im still very very glad they are so loved by many nasties.

  21. OMG HOW COOL WAS THAT?! I was lie to my mum “thats the music I like. That’s Simon and Martina. I watch their video and read their blogs” and mum’s like “i didn’t know that there were canadians living in Korea!” she learnt a new thing that day

  22. They’re making EVOL look like a big, famous group, and in the end they admit that they will probably not last long. This has been one of the weirdest k-pop documentary I’ve ever watched…

  23. Huff…I saw this coming. Ok I’m just going to drop a few points here:

    – I admit, some of the things presented were negative. But they were real. It wasn’t something that he made up, out of thin air, just to make Korea look bad. And some of the things presented were positive, too. Their intention was to generate interest into the unknown aspects of foreign cultures, and I think they succeeded.

    – What you’re saying about Hamish here is pretty much what some kpop fans say about EYK – critical, derogatory, uneducated, and also racist, ignorant, hating on Korea and Kpop, etc etc. If they hated Korea so much – would they be spending so much time promoting it?

    – Kpop fans like to gather all the tiny negative hints here and there, reading deeply between the lines, interpreting facial expressions and tones of voice – completely disregarding any positive impressions – and then branding people as ‘haters’. It would be a nice change to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes.

    – Although Hamish himself admitted that kpop wasn’t his kind of music; the fact that he went out of his way to include it in his show, get raw footage straight from the insiders, and give a chance to kpop lovers (S&M) to express why they like it – is already quite complimentary in itself. He expressed his own thoughts, but he got insight from lots of other reputable people who actually liked kpop, too – including, and especially, foreigners. I thought it was pretty balanced.

    – I think I should also point out that the show did have positive aspects. He was sincerely nodding along to EVOL’s song, and highly praised Lunafly’s performance, showing that outside of the kpop companies, there is also this kind of raw, indie, street music, that is really cool. He praised how hardworking everyone was, staying for hours on end, and making a lot of sacrifices to get to where they want to be in life. He promoted kimchi and Korean street food. He was really impressed by the two American girls who could rap in Korean, and let them express their thoughts on kpop, which I found quite interesting :)

    – I really liked how the show portrayed the personalities and thoughts and feelings of kpop stars – Hayana from Evol – which actually generates empathy with the artists, and crushes the popular idea that they’re just robots who all look and think the same. Heck, she’s even Australian, as tweeted by Hamish ( https://twitter.com/hamishNews/status/344041636961075200 )

    – I asked some Australians who watched the show what their general impression was, and they said, “Kpop is this big new thing, and their government is using it for advertising, and the Kpop artists are very hard working and are willing to make sacrifices to realise their dreams.” –> I don’t find that negative? In fact I’m amazed they actually remembered that much.

    In short,

    You and I all know how typical Aussies are – ethnocentric and xenophobic, just like most people from rich developed countries :p With them as the target audience, and in comparison to the usual documentaries on mainstream Aussie TV; I felt this show was a lot more raw material, and a lot less propaganda, than the typical stuff.
    It aimed to generate interest in Korea, amongst an audience that often dismisses it as ‘weird’ and ‘gay’.

    I think they did pretty well. ;)

    • You have made the assumption that I am one of those ‘crazy’ sasaeng fans who cannot take any negative comments. This assumption is wrong.

      – Being Korean myself I would obviously be more sensitive. But doesn’t mean that I ignore the facts. I agree that what he said was true and I never denied this. But did he show EVERYTHING that is true about K-Pop? No. He NEVER properly gave any artistic merit to those who are truly artists. Instead, he showed how robotic it CAN be. What about more indie style K-Pop (not just street performances)? And he made a generalized statement about music videos ‘it’s cheesy’. Did he say that EvoL’s ‘Get Up’ was cheesy? No. He completely disregarded the tens of thousands of other K-Pop videos that exist, all with differing themes and styles. See where I’m going?

      – I never called him a hater. I said that I was disappointed. I acknowledge that there were some things that were inherently positive, but the negative tone of the report made them sound snide ‘I admit, it’s catchy… BUT’.

      – And what’s with the ‘huff, I saw this coming’? You’re entitled to your opinion, but not to treat mine like they’re inferior.

      Have a nice day.

    • WOW…. *claps* that was a really good analysis. i’m amazed at how u r able to look at things from such objective yet deep n clear perspective. its not something us ‘youngsters’ nowadays can always do. i major in film yet i cant always do that myself. good job. *thumbs up* (^^)

    • I agree *claps*
      as kpop fans we’re often very defensive as we feel we’re misunderstood. It’s the typical minority mentality. But if you watch this from this from a non kpop fans, average australian perspective, it’s actually very insightful and I feel that Hamish is taking a great care not to offend anyone yet still present us with the truth and be humorous.

    • in truth im more angry that this video didn’t have more simon and martina, and that the guy WAS STANDING NOT THREE FREAKING METERS AWAY FROM LUNAFLY AND DIDN’T REALLY KNOW WHO THEY WERE!! i would have like screamed, fainted, revived, cried, then asked for a picture and autograph (after they were done playing of course!) but i agree they did do a good job of covering both sides of the spectrum, and a lot of people will see this and think of it a as a negative view point, but we are VERY biased and will nitpick and take things too seriously and read between the lines too much; i believe they did their work thoroughly and very well done!

      • I know, we ARE very biased :p
        I like kpop too, so I noticed all the negative hints here and there, while the rest of my family (who are just meh) thought the show was awesome. I just had to take a step back, acknowledge my bias, and try to look at it from a different perspective – eg from that of an average Aussie office worker relaxing in front of the TV after dinner. I realised that for them, it must look quite fascinating ;)

    • Well said (as always). I too, honestly thought that Hamish was taking special care to show his respect to everyone he talked to, whatever his personal opinions. I didn’t realize that you were an Aussie before now, you are sneaky ;). Thanks also for pointing out all the positives, the list is actually quite long. I have no idea what that weird science guy was in there for (positive/negative/comic relief?), but he was definitely funny, poor cameraman XD

  24. It was great that Channel Ten did a segment on Kpop, but I felt kinda defensive while watching this video because it seemed like Hamish was treating it with skepticism and judgement. It happens alot when my friends dismiss Kpop just from surface knowledge and first impressions, and even though Hamish said “don’t dimiss Kpop”, I feel like he did based off his reactions and questions to the EvoL girls, etc.
    The segment was definitely done from an outsider perspective, viewing Kpop as a machine without bothering to find the humanness behind it. And while Kpop, in some sense, is a machine, it is a business, but the groups/music/people should not be generalized under one term “Kpop” or treated as such.

  25. Wow, the video has a good point: I’ve never thought of kpop as a way for the government to make money. But now that I think of it, I’m more enticed into buying Korean goods, as with music comes culture.

  26. kpop has health benefits! i knew there was an underlying reason as to why i love it so much!

  27. That was a cool theme song!

  28. Even to look as a Kpop idol…that thing about cutting eyes it’s just too much…crazy, creepy and scary!!!! Putting that aside, I loved to see you here guys…now I even know why I’m so addicted to kpop…It was so interesting! ^_______^

  29. Exciting !! next time EYK can come to Australia and talk to Hamish. I really feel sorry for kpop stars because after they sign the contract they cant get out of it :'( its hard for kpop stars to live their life. just come to Australia were a chilled country :D AND WE LOVE ALL KPOP. thank god channel ten did that story. i love how they did the cute texts on top of building as well as kpop stars names. i think everyone needs to practice G’DAY MATE before coming to Australia :D I LOVE EYK

  30. i totally love the way they do the text effects as well. the text is in 3d, however it can be done in after effects. i bet leigh would know how its done. if not, you guise might want to check out a plug-in called element 3d by video copilot (i’m not working for that company nor am i earning commission from them) i bought the plugin myself and i really love it, makes my work alot easier when working on 3d text for motion graphics. as for how the text appears and disappears on screen, it can be achieved by masking/rotoscoping with after effects. should tell leigh to make such effects for your videos in future, it’s gonna be awesome (and nasty~)

  31. LUNAFLY!!! S&M should try reviewing them once…I love them!

  32. I am going to have nightmares!! That cutting the eye part..aaahhhhh use tape use tape instead

  33. I thought the exact same thing… Also, EVOL made it seem like people only become kpop idols to be famous and loved, rather than those groups that do it because they love music (DBSK, Big Bang, etc). I felt like this was a borderline terrible representation of kpop and the people who are fans of it >.<

    • Well it was also a leading question. He asked “why do you want to be Kpop stars?” and they talked about wanting to be singers and rappers and he gave a very dismissive “yeah” and then asked “but do you want to be famous?” He clearly had an angle that he was looking for.

      • Of course he had an angle, but I think that his repeated questions in this part of the interview were more aimed at getting past the “company line” answer because he suspected it was not the truth.

        • Hmm I don’t think he was looking out for truth either. Did you want to be popular? Is really generic question.. With translator and more time he’d have much different answers. I’m just buying this documentary completely XD

    • Really? If that is what you think of Big Bang and DBSK (and I admit that I speak from a place that probably doesn’t know either group nearly as well as you), maybe you need to visit Korea…..unless you are already there…… No matter how much you love music, being famous and loved IS the most important thing in Asian culture – making great art – inventing new technologies – saving lives – none of these things even compare to being popular. Both in terms of own personal worth and in your ability to advance in your career and life-setting. Being popular can make you life and being unpopular can break it. And I don’t mean just your musical career, I mean you whole life, every aspect of it from where you live to can your family get jobs, everything. Why do you think that kpop groups periodically get put on ice? So that their popularity only declines while they are not on the scene (completely legitimate)? It’s so no one gets tired of them or says negative things about them and so they are missed and welcomed back after (carefully calculated) x amount of time when they seem fresh and new again after other groups have had their turn. If you are a kpop idol, you may want tell yourself that your sacrifices are for the music but I can’t imagine that ANY music, even if it contained the meaning of the universe, would be worth it for the sacrifices they go through. No, they go through these sacrifices for their futures and their families’ futures.

      I am not sure that being a kpop fan _is_ a great thing. I love the music, but I hate the machine and what it does to its components. If I could find another music to love that makes me dance in large supply that didn’t come with all that baggage, I would be there in a heartbeat and never look back. This whole article is making me “feel bad for shopping at Wal-mart” towards kpop……well, that same kind of feeling but I don’t actually shop at Wal-mart because I don’t like that feeling. Hmmm……..

      • Being popular is how they make a living at it. If you can’t get enough people sufficiently interested in what you’re doing to put down money for it, you’ll never make a living. But this is true of the entertainment industry and always has been from the days of traveling poets like Homer until now, and not just in the West. The desire for fame and popularity is common to all of us to some degree, and it’s not just an Asian phenomenon — listen to Counting Crows’ “Mr. Jones” from 1994 or so.

        Big Bang and TVXQ (well, JYJ more so than 2VXQ) have musicianship at their core. Not necessarily as instrumentalists, but as creators of music. I still think the real reason JYJ quit SM was because SM was not giving them enough creative freedom. Look at the first thing they did after they left: an album in English with production by Kanye West and Rodney Jerkins, and then look at the solo stuff they’ve put out since then like Junsu’s “Tarantallegra” and Jaejoong’s release; those have been far beyond what’s dreamt of in SM’s philosophy. Big Bang, for their own account, has G-Dragon at the middle of it, who’s been working on stuff for at least a decade, and Taeyang is no slouch either in terms of creativity.

        Sure, there are plenty of groups that are put together as an attempt to cynically extract quick cash from the listening public, but those don’t last very long. Even some of the ones that aren’t don’t last long, either. Still, I think you’ll find that most of the performers in K-pop, like anywhere else, went into it because they genuinely want to entertain people through music and dance. Notice I didn’t say all, I said most do. Popularity in that context means you’re doing your job well.

        • That’s exactly what I was getting at! And I wouldn’t count out Yunho and Changmin simply because they stayed with SM. But yes Big Bang and DBSK have always been marketed to some degree as ‘real’ artists, which is part of their draw in my opinion. And now that they’re older in the business (and out of SM) they’re able to branch out more and put more of their own stamp on their products.

  34. at some parts it sounded a Little negative, but trust me, compared to some german stuff on kpop I’ve seen, this sounded sooooo much friendlier!

  35. I love seeing stories like this! Not only does it make me feel good to be part of such a big movement, but it is also something I can show to others who don’t understand why I am so into kpop. If I just tell someone locally that I am into kpop, I usually get a lot of funny looks, like I am into some obscure cult or something. Then I show them things like this and they are like O.O “Oh wow! This is HUGE!”

  36. Ok so I started watching this video from the beginning and somehow forgot that I was watching it in order to see you guys on it! LOL So when you appeared I was surprised/happy and then I realized what an idiot I am…As a Canadian I am so proud of you guys and so happy that you are out there as a representative for us! On a side note…Martina your boots are BADASS!

  37. You should tried downloading “hot shield” (http://download.cnet.com/hotspot-shield/) which works great!

    Wow, from Nov-Jun to broadcast it up on TV *whistle*

    Simon and Martina eating + simon’s red mohawk while on TV too ;)

    The plastic surgery of the girl was interesting; they just lifted her eyes and it makes such a different. I don’t know if i want to do that. I get if people want liposuction but under the knife is scary to me.*

    *side note: so many smiley eyes, cute. hehe*

  38. AHHHHHH you guys are so NASTY OOOOH!
    Made me proud :’D

  39. Thanks for the link to the show, the teaser was so interesting, I wanted to see it. I think that it wasn’t a great advertisement for Simon and Martina, too short also, but it definitely showed them in a positive light and managed to capture their energy and friendliness.

    The gold or silver text in the background freaks me out because the only other place I’ve seen it is in “Fringe” which is definitely a freak-you-out kind of show.

    Sooooo….the kpop stars really are locked up in a small room together never seeing boys. Eeeg. Props to Evol, they look great in the video. I don’t know. I didn’t know about the whole Korean Wave theory behind the kpop, it makes more sense now (in an Asian kind of way) but, like some eastern countries train their kids for the Olympics, it always leaves me sad and kind of icky feeling. I like kpop music because it’s fun, happy, and great to dance to. I think that I gravitate to kpop in particular for these things because there is so much of it there, it’s a reliable source, compared to other, more easily accessible music genres/locations. Sometimes, you just wanna/need to dance and you need new music to keep energizing yourself. After watching this (and other shows recently) though, I feel kind of dirty for enabling the slavery of these kpop groups. a dilemma for sure. Is there no way to have a fun and fulfilling life creating happy dancey music for the world? Does it have to be so hard and nasty on the stars? There are sooooooo many kpop groups/idols, surely they could schedule better to give them a life – if it’s all rigged anyways, why can’t they take turns? The only other people (besides Koreans – and please correct me if I’m wrong) around the world who value this monk-like life of hardship, abstention, and loneliness that the idols live are the evangelical Christians and frankly, I’m not so sure that attracting these people is a good thing for such a forward-moving culture.

    When I originally watched the teaser for this show, youtube suggested a similar show which was also focusing on kpop for an episode called “VICE”. It was a lot more negative and harsh, but I don’t think either video was misleading.

    Cyber_3 – ignorance is bliss sometimes but it’s a boring bliss……..

    • I am totally sure that the parents of these kids know what they are signing the kids up for and I am sure that they are hoping for the best. In a culture where popularity is much sought-after, I am sure that they are weighing the risks and trying to increase the whole family’s worth in society. As for the young adults, I am sure that they either understand the risks or take them because they either don’t feel they have a choice if they want to be popular or feel that the risk is worth it. If I was Korean, I might do the same because things are different there; but what I would do as a Canadian is totally different. That is all I’m going to say or I may get too political.

    • fuuko4869? Did you delete my reply here or am I losing my mind? If so, why? (so I don’t do it again).

    • But who can bring the pressure? I ask because I really don’t know. I’m not sure this is an industry that measures success so much by consumer reaction? Or by the consumer reaction outside of Korea? Sure, they like to sell stuff and make money but it doesn’t seem to matter so much IMO to the entertainment labels which of their groups succeed, just as long as some minimum number of them are succeeding at any one point in time. And as long as you switch it up, there will always be fangirls for whatever is “trendy”. Since the machine practically CREATES all the trends (with government sponsorship obviously), how to do keep them from making themselves trendy?

      I think that Simon and Martina/ Eat Your Kimchi does help to highlight some of these issues in a less threatening manner than say, the news. After 3 years or so, has it made any impact though other than making people more aware? I don’t think that I am qualified to assess that but at least there has been some notice by mainstream news like this show which is at least a step forward. Unless you know a kpop idol personally who’s life has been destroyed by their time in the machine – does anyone have enough investment to care? The rewards are so great (even by bragging rights standards) in Korean lifestyle that it’s hard to imagine too many Koreans giving up the opportunity should it come their way. I think it would be interesting to see how some of these K-Indie groups make their way and what kind of pressures they have by comparison…..

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