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February 18, 2014

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Too many boy bands! Time for girls!

You know, I noticed that it’s a bit difficult for us to talk about female acts the same way we do about male acts. With male acts, we can poke fun at some of the ridiculous things they do. When it comes to female acts, however, if we make fun of them, it’s difficult to do so without deeply offending someone. Girl groups predominantly do sexy videos, and any poking fun at their videos would then be interpreted as poking fun at their sexuality. The most we can say is that videos that only rely on sexy concepts and offer nothing apart from a peep-show are boring to us.

Ga-In “FxxK You”

This video, on the other hand, is not a boring video. It depicts sexuality in a video far more realistically than most videos that just depict girls dancing sexily for the audience. More to the point, this video shows sexuality in a relationship, which is not a common topic at all in Kpop. The most you see in a relationship is a girl dating the entire band and making them boo-hoo-hoo about it. This video, however, takes it to yet another level, and graphically depicts an unhealthy sexy relationship, with the man forcing himself upon Ga-In.

Whoa! Sorry, but I didn’t expect that at all in Kpop. I don’t see that in videos ANYWHERE in the world, and to see it come out in a Kpop video, the genre of which is predominantly bubbly and fun, I’m really amazed. Really. Check out the video if you haven’t already. It’s got a lot more to it than what we could mention in a few minutes of a video, as opposed to the next video, which doesn’t even deserve a few sentences:

Stella “Marionette”

Lamest video we’ve seen in ages. Boring, uninspired, unimaginative, and lazy. Reeks of desperately trying to push the limits so that people will talk about it. Otherwise lacking in substance. Put that up against Ga-In’s video and it’s a shame this has anywhere close to as many views.

I think our test is fair: would the kpop video still be interesting if the band wore plain clothes?

Spica “You Don’t Love Me Music Video”

Yes, I know “Music Video” isn’t in the title. We just have to point it out when Kpop companies do a bad job of titling their YouTube vids.

Ok, apart from that, we love this video! The song’s great as well! If it wasn’t for Ga-In’s video this would be on the top of this week’s list. It’s a fun doo-wop-py song, and the video is really well done as well. So well done! In fact, Soo Zee’s Sunbae directed this video! She told us today. They’re not close, but the video was directed by her upper classmate, and it’s a woman. A woman! From our experience, there aren’t many female Kpop video directors. Supposedly she also directed Rain’s “30Sexy” from what I overheard, too. Awesome! If that’s the case, that’s two great videos done by her in a short timespan. Question: how can Soo Zee talk to her and convince her to let us on a Music Video set as an extra? It must be done. Check out this video and let us know if you like it as well. Spica’s doing good stuff, and isn’t getting enough recognition for it yet.

Kiss & Cry “Domino” Game”

We wanted to talk about this video in comparison to the GPBasic video and talk about our thoughts on rookie bands. Let’s be honest. You feel it. We feel it too. The amount of Kpop groups is too damned high. There are too many to keep up with. Too many bands with fans that say “oh my babies are working so hard they deserve all the awards!” Anyone here watch Mad Men? I love that show. One of my favourite lines from last season was “Not every little girl gets to do what she wants. The world cannot support that many ballerinas.” If everyone got to be in a successful Kpop band there’d be more bands than fans to listen to them.

The point I’m getting at isn’t that Kpop bands should stop emerging. Our point is more along the lines of, if you’re gonna be in a new Kpop band, do something to stand out. Be different. Show some innovation. Music should be creative, not re-created. We all can admit that there is a formula to some Kpop songs, videos, and concepts, and not everyone can use that formula to be successful. Come up with new formulas! Don’t ride on other people’s successes and try to get a piece of the pie by doing what they’re doing.

A lot of the new bands that we’ve seen have generic established style and tempos. We won’t follow them, and we don’t wan to talk about them. Kiss & Cry, though they aren’t the greatest thing out there, at least have convinced us more than other new bands, and we’ll definitely check out their next video, whenever it comes out.

Rainbow Blaxx “Cha Cha”

Ah! So much potential! This could have been a great video! A commentary on women in the Kpop industry! The unhealthy ultra-strict diets they need to go on! The focus on measurements of women in the industry as opposed to just talent! The male gaze and voyeurism! The sweet-go-in-money-come-out imagery! It had so much potential! If only those shots lasted longer than the 10 seconds they have in the video, and focused less on Rainbow Blaxx sexy dancing. Our guess is that the video producers actually made a really good cut of the video, but the company thought more like “no! we need moar sexi!” and then told the directors to cut it differently. It’s happened before, even to some of your favourite videos. It could have happened here, too.

Anyhow, let us know what you think. We talked about a lot this time around. Some of it you might agree with (or none of it). We’d like to hear it! If you’re in a less than serious mood: here are this week’s Bloopers!

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  1. I think that ‘Cha Cha’ is -like you suggested- about the K-pop scene. They’re basically watched 24/7, live a ‘glamorous’ live where they have to make lots of money by working insane hours (like they constantly eat and turn food into diamonds) and their weight, height, everything is constantly measured and controlled. And that old lady certainly does look greedy (like the management/companies of idols are?).
    I don’t understand the lyrics though. It could also mean something completely different. Who knows :’D

    2 years ago
  2. Question: Do our Rainblow blaxx plot essays need to be in MLA format? How many paragraphs should we write?

    2 years ago
  3. I find Two Song Place’s “Age-Height” to be a hilarious video. But then again it’s a quirky tongue-in-cheek song poking fun of all the big music videos of 2013 so what’s not to love?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjRt4bncqQ4

    2 years ago
  4. The “weird” clothing you guys were trying to name are leotards not unitards. I have danced wearing them so any times and it is worn to cover your crotch area when you are also wearing a skirt. It helps to prevent flashing your audience when you kick. Word lol!

    2 years ago
  5. The idea of having to write an essay (and in times new roman *shudder*) is a terrifying thing. But I want to try because hey procrastination!

    2 years ago
  6. I think you guys should’ve talked about Lipservice’s Yum Yum Yum!!! The video was fun and the song is REALLYYY catchy AANNNDDD the song is about dieting and food :3

    2 years ago
  7. When I was reading comments on other sites a lot of people didn’t understand Gain’s MV or song. I personally really loved it. Love isn’t really the word, but it made me feel and think and question and hum along. I could have done without the endless fuck you(s) but it got the point across that this wasn’t about sexy sexy time, but rape. Not making love, but “fucking” aka emotionless and at times not consensual. Gain is on a maturity level above other kpop acts. She pushes while others follow and do what they’re told to do. I’m glad she went for the 19+ theme and is completely unapologetic about her artistic expression. There is a realness to her music and MVs that is so rare in Kpop.

    2 years ago
  8. MmM

    Thanks for the Girl Group KMM! I really like this style of video because it lets you get your two cents in about so many different songs :) I’m glad you got to talk about Ga In and SPICA!!!
    I’m looking forward for the influx of sexy concepts to lessen a bit. There were four girl groups, AOA with “Miniskirt”, Girls Day with “Something”, Rainbow Blaxx with “Cha Cha”, and Dal Shabet’s “BBB”, that all had(?) to change their choreography in order for their singles to be aired on music shows earlier in the year and other artists just followed the trend in February. And Stella(r)’s unitards look ridiculously uncomfortable.

    2 years ago
  9. I won’t lie, the review on Stellar’s Marionette made me kind of sad… the butt rubbing move is kind of questionable (and definitely fodder for mocking!) but you can’t really blame the girls for being forced to go into that direction after all their past flops, plus it’s all the management and blah blah blah the poor girls, etc.

    Their lives on music shows have altered dance moves that are really great, and the song itself is amaze-balls in my opinion. Hopefully people give them more of a chance in terms of the song. <3

    2 years ago
  10. Yay! I’m so glad you included Gain Fxxk You and Spica You don’t Love Me Music Video (hehe)… I really liked both those videos and hoped they would show up. I have a hard time liking a lot of the female kpop because a lot of it DOES seem to be “moar sexi” and less interesting which I just find boring, sexist or uninteresting. Thanks for including some of the more unique ladies… and help us fine more…

    2 years ago
  11. Love that you guys made it clear what was going on in Ga-In’s video. If you look at the Youtube comments, so many are of this horrible variety: “Wow, the guy in the video is sooo hot/sexy, I can’t take my eyes off him!” or “Wow, this video’s crossing the line, it only shows that Ga-In really is becoming a slut.” Even then, people don’t seem to interpret it as rape even though marital/relationship rape is so common, yet rarely addressed. Kudos to Ga-In.

    I also like the artistic direction Spica’s video took :) Thanks for the great KMM, guys! Even if you find it difficult to make criticisms of female kpop group’s videos, I think you did a good job.

    2 years ago
    • You know, we edited a lot out of our talk about Ga-In’s video. Most of it was us trying to correct commenters, because we were really frustrated by them. We edited it out because we want our videos to be us having fun with a video, rather than responding to bad comments, you know? But, yes, it was frustrating to read that online…

      2 years ago
      • Wow, I’m surprised that is true! I went on Youtube to check it out and was confused how people kind of missed out on the meaning. I used to live in China, so I am used to going on their forums. And people were totally oblivious to the meaning behind the MV. They were just surprised by the 19+. Then people started translating stuff about it, and some people were talking about what Gain was trying to get at…. So many people didn’t understand it or couldn’t put there head’s around it.

        What were the Korean’s netizen’s reaction? Did they get the meaning behind it?

        2 years ago
  12. Bainbow Blaxx’s plot was that of the golden goose that laid golden eggs~ It took me a couple watches to understand… Heheh. Also, the “XX” stands for female chromosomes for some reason…
    I’m super glad you guys focused on all female groups this week… aahahhhhhh there have been so many good female songs lately!!! Have you heard of Mamamoo yet?? I bet you will fall IN LOVE with them. Especially if you liked Spica’s latest song~ They haven’t made their official debut yet, but I think we should keep an eye on them… Anyway, go watch Peppermint Chocolate (it’s by Mamamoo and K.Will with a WheeSung featuring). Your life will change.
    The end.

    2 years ago
  13. GP Basic… you have the pottencial to be a good group but really? YOU GIVE ME THIS MV?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

    Okay no. *I need … to calm down* D:
    btw I LOOOOOOOVE Fxxk U by GaIn.

    Her voice match so well with BumKey and I really like the plot. Well… except for that scene when the guy put his hand in the candle ( Sooo bad ass XDD) and suddenly fall or something in the cake.. That was funny.

    PD:Sorry for my english, I’m studying … ;_;

    2 years ago
  14. It was a leotard. Unitards are pants-leotards

    2 years ago
  15. Leotard LEOtard…

    2 years ago
  16. You should check out Bebop – I’m the best. They are quite good and they have really fresh concept.

    2 years ago
  17. You should have included Lip Service – Yum Yum Yum. It’s totally super awesome, they’re rookies as well, but don’t have vibe as rookies. Check it out, it’s super awesome super fun. http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/kpopcharts/lip-service-yumyumyum/
    hamburger, hamburger, hamburger, hamburger :)

    I really love Spica stuff. They deserve much more attention than they actually receive. I heard that Lee Hyori is behind You don’ love me. I love everything about that MV.

    (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

    2 years ago
    • This is a great fan-made video of Crayon Pop and yum, yum, yum. As we all should know by now, Crayon Pop love to eat.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60rLIECAaUM

      2 years ago
    • We saw the video and were going to talk about it, but our video had already gotten too long, you know?

      Fun fact: there’s a debate happening in the comment section to that video that’s ridiculously cringeworthy.

      2 years ago
      • You guys taking about that Michael Arson dude or whatever his name is? Yeah…. -.-

        2 years ago
        • Yes. Especially the part when he’s like “I’ve won awards for my music videos!” Oh god. So…much…cringe…

          2 years ago
        • I honestly couldn’t read much past the first 6 or so comments. He was just so full of himself, its laughable. I went to go check out his MV’s to see if they could back up all his talk… very amature stuff. The awfulness of the conversation upset me and made me *facepalm*

          2 years ago
        • he made me laugh, I decided to click on his page he sang a song about taking the subway… How could he bash them for their song, at least thier’s is fun and catchy.

          2 years ago
        • Holy magikarp… That dude is totally riddiculous. Like wow. Where people like that come from.
          brrrrr…

          Anyways. I hope that you won’t forget this MV. It’s totally KMMs worthy, It would be totally hilarious one. So for the next EYKAs Best Potential KMM please include them, I think they deserve it.
          I’m looking forward to hear from Lip Service more.
          Cheers!

          (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

          2 years ago
    • “How was dinner, honey?”

      2 years ago
    • When watching Yum Yum Yum all I could think was that this song is perfect for Dr. Meemerworth!!! Seriously, the yum yum sounded like nya nya (anime cat noise) and its about food. Couldn’t be more perfect for Meemers!

      2 years ago
    • YES! Yum Yum Yum is soooo good.

      I heard BiPA is from Texas… Oh Leeeeeeiiiigh ~

      2 years ago
  18. I’m half. Dissapointed you didnt reveiw bap. But in really happy you did a girls review. Good job guys it was great and super funny <3

    2 years ago
  19. Wow, this music monday was pretty great. I laughed a lot of times and I really agreed a lot with your opinions as well. A little disappointed that you didn’t pick B.A.P’s 1004 though since it’s such a great song and the music video is a gold mine. Seeing how they have gotten a lot of reviews before though and how girl group’s doesn’t seem to get much spotlight here, I get why you did this video. WOW I really like Gain’s fxxk you, I really like how it talked about rape in a relationship as that happens A LOT and isn’t taken seriously by a lot of people because the people are in a relationship. IT IS STILL RAPE AS LONG AS IT’S NOT CONSENSUAL! Gosh.

    Also, I did not like the sexy part of Rainbow Blaxx’s music video because it focused so much on them being sexy and focused so much on their butts. I did like the song though, it’s so catchy. I wanted more of the storyline as well! The girls looked a little uncomfortable with this concept though.

    I only listened to Kiss & Cry’s song and I really liked it! It was super good and one of those golden cards in kpop as well.

    WOAW did I not like Stellar’s music video, it was so focused on making them SEXY and objectifying them as much as possible for the attention. HOWEVER I have seen so many people calling them sluts and whores because of it and that is NOT OK. They probably had no say in it whatsoever. I can see this video though eventually harming kids if they get to see it and making for example little boys seeing it’s ok objectfying women. Don’t even get me starting on their facebook promos! “Oppa I’ll do whatever you want” and the “The more is revealed the more you like!!” Yuck.

    Hiru rant out! Haha

    2 years ago
  20. I thought Rainbow Blaxx’s Cha Cha could have been like an old rich lady prepping the girls. For either prostitution or something like that. It just felt like they were being taken advantage of but they didn’t care because they were being pampered.

    2 years ago
  21. You guys basically seconded everything I was thinking..
    & Rainbow Blaxx talked about their name on Beatles Code recently (the episode w/ VIXX & Narsha)

    Have you guys seen Sunmi’s Full Moon yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BBF3vRY85M

    2 years ago
    • Ack! The first shot scared the hell out of me! And upon watching the rest of the video, it did NOT need to be that sudden. The quick fright just doesn’t fit with the rest of it.

      2 years ago
  22. That’s really awesome of you guys to make a video just about female kpop idols and groups when your fans notice it’s been a sausagefest lately! Thank you! Spica and Ga-In had really awesome songs, I was happy to see those reviewed! :D
    OH MAN SIMON I AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE GPBASIC OH MY GOSH I had to shut it down I couldn’t handle how… BAD it was.

    2 years ago
  23. I was hoping I’d see AoA. Can you make a review about them?

    2 years ago
  24. All with sexy concepts, isn’t it bit overused amongst girl groups already. I want to see something else already from girls.

    2 years ago
  25. I love when you discuss more than one video – because invariably some great songs and groups fall through the cracks. More!

    Thanks so much for Ga In’s video, the song and video is amazing and the more attention it gets, the more impact it can have!

    And yay Spica love!

    2 years ago
  26. I definitely agree with you guys about Kiss&Cry! I first time listen to them because I saw the video of a member of them covering Idina Menzel’s Let It Go, and it came out really good. The song sounds different from some other typical rookie girl groups, and they didn’t even had a rap in the song. Sadly, their debut album was just a single album where there is only one song, so I couldn’t really see how far their potential are. Really looking forward for their next album!

    2 years ago
  27. Is it Stellar or Stella? I see them credited both ways. As to the video, I couldn’t agree more. It really is a ‘bridge too far’, it is sexy for the sake of being sexy and tries too hard. I am not defending the record company’s decision to change from “cute and sexy” to “mature and sexy” but does anyone remember their last effort? 2013’s “Study”, a paint by numbers, aegyo 101 video and song (just over 500k views in 7 months). The company felt that they had to change something so they went this route. Marionette now has nearly 2 million views in less than a week, (plus a “No Cut” version) and I will have to hit the music tracking sites to see if this has translated into sales. EYK mentioned this above… there are really too many groups at the moment, and going this route clearly got them the attention they wanted, positive or negative, attention is still attention.

    2 years ago
  28. What you guys said about Rainbow Blaxx actually really surprised me. When I watched it, I didn’t really pay attention to the lady and the guy with binoculars and just put it off as another ridiculously sexy concept. But now that you guys mention it, I think it really was planned to be a representation of the kpop industry. These girls are forced to do all these sexy things and the result are the jewels. The jewels in real life are the money company CEOs earn, which is represented by the guy with binoculars. I’d say the measuring and whatnot is also partly the public and how much we scrutinize the artists. Plus the girls don’t show signs of discomfort because they can’t in the industry.

    2 years ago
    • I think you’re spot on. However, I had a different first impression of the video. All the candy and the old lady made me think of Hansel and Gretel and the witch – luring and fattening up children for consumption. The diamonds coming out of the mouths also made me think of that trope in Italian folktales where good girls who are blessed by faeries (etc) comb their hair and rubies and pearls (etc etc!) fall out. And there’s always some creepy/conniving stepmother or aunt who has her eye on those jewels…

      2 years ago
      • Close. Korea also has a folktale where a lady discovers that she has a goose that lays golden eggs, so she thinks that if she feeds the goose more it will lay more golden eggs, and then she tries it and it does. (Not a very interesting tale, mind, but has something to do with the “if something works then invest heavily in it”) so it’s combining that folktale with the idea that Sexy sells in k-pop. So she finds out that she can make them sexier and sell them more for profit…

        2 years ago
    • But I wonder what the sweets represent…their fans perhaps?

      2 years ago
      • I was assuming it may be how appealing the idol popularity may be to many people’s eyes. Those who take the idols as they are rather than digging deeper into their diet, how they are treated by the company, the stress they receive from many other staff, etc. You know how sweets may be good at first but if you have too much, it makes you sick to the stomach and may even kill you if thats the only thing you eat. Seems to be a simile to that.

        2 years ago
  29. SPICA <3 I started to love them since their single "Tonight" . Their voices are just awesome and I adore the fact that they are working with Lee H.!

    2 years ago
  30. I don’t listen to a lot of girl groups, because I prefer solo artists , but the one that I like the most recently is GaIn’s “Truth or dare” and the whole her newest album. Also I really liked Sunmi’s “24 hours” mv and “Full Moon” mv which was released yesterday. Some moves of the dance doesn’t fit me (and I’m almost sure that you will know about which moves I’m talking :D ) , but I liked that it wasn’t another cute music video, but something different ^^ But still GaIn and Brown Eyed Girls are the queens for me <3

    2 years ago
  31. FxxK You was fabulous – having just helped a friend get out of an abusive relationship, it’s an issue that’s on my mind right now and I’m very happy that the KPop industry is covering it. Especially if, as you mentioned in an earlier video, it’s not a topic that’s talked about openly in schools. Not all girls know they have the right to say no :(

    2 years ago
  32. You guys definitely need to check out Mamamoo. They’re a female rookie group as well, and oh man, they don’t seem rookie. They have 2 videos out, one colab with Bumkey and another with K.Will.

    2 years ago
    • Peppermint Chocolate is seriously awesome I just HAD to download it!! <3

      2 years ago
    • I’m still totally hooked with the first one they made with Bumkey, I’m about to master the second part of the chorus so that I can sing along. They are just soooo good and talented, They blew my mind.

      2 years ago
    • I totally agree. Mamamoo is starting to look great! And I’m a total K. will fangirl, he seriuosly never goes wrong. I’ve had Some Guy Some Girl stuck in my head for days.

      2 years ago
      • Some Guy Some Girl is Peppermint Chocolate right = ? That song is so good and funky which we don’t normally see in kpop, and it automatically puts me in a good mood.

        2 years ago
        • yes Peppermint Chocolate is the international title. I love it, it is such a breath of fresh air. And the girls are sexy without having to rub/ wiggle their butts.

          2 years ago
    • SO excited for Mamamoo :)

      2 years ago
    • Really can’t wait for Mamamoo to officially debut, their two pre-release collaborations are amazing!

      2 years ago
  33. thank you Thank You THANK YOU so much for talking about spica i really love them! They are amazing!!
    and i was like a hundred times at your page to vote for them!

    And btw GP Basic already debuted in 2010 with there song “game”

    2 years ago
  34. Simon and Martina can you look at the video request i made for you? https://twitter.com/Mimchetu/status/434310669723123713 I POSTED IT A HUNDRED TIMES Y U NO NOTICE ME?:D

    2 years ago
  35. Ah I am glad to see the girl groups getting some love. And I do agree, the videos seem to be getting more and more sexual for just the “oh look at us” shock factor instead of anything else and it is too bad. They should focus more on the music and what the song is saying instead of “what outfits can we get them in and what grindy sexual dances can they do”. One of the reasons I started listening to kpop was because that was mostly missing from it and one of the reasons I am not into western pop music. Ga-in somehow seems to avert this trap and really tells a story even though it is not really PG.
    But yeah I am a guy and even for me the sexy concept ones meant to just be sexy and maybe shocking in Korea do nothing for me.

    As for new songs you picked a bunch of good ones, although I am quite partial to Lipservice with Yum Yum Yum, which coincidentally is about dieting and the troubles with it. Mixed into a cool little song.

    2 years ago
  36. GP Basic isn’t a rookie group btw…. they have an interesting timeline… but glad to see non sausagefest wooop!!!

    2 years ago
  37. Oh my god. The second video looked as if they were getting wedges. OUCH
    I totally agree to your reactions.
    You guys have given me non-cutesy groups to listen to and which ones not to. Thanks.

    2 years ago
  38. yay for simon tehet

    2 years ago
  39. First post

    2 years ago
  40. yay for simon tehet

    2 years ago
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