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This week’s TL;DR comes from Maryland USA from mcbrayer77. He/she asks,

What do korean teens think of american music videos? really innocent (by u.s. standards) korean mv’s get banned all the time, what do they think of mv that are really promiscuous like one done by Beyoncé, lady gaga, and the pcd?

This was a great one for us to answer because both of us actually taught a lesson to our Korean students (back when we were teachers) about music videos and how to dissect them. It was an awesome lesson which we found tremendous success in. If you’re teaching in Korea, give it a shot. You can download it in our Winter Package here. Just make sure you prep your students with vocabulary and sentence structures because it can be a more challenging lesson. For Martina, she actually took three to four classes to fully teach this lesson. Otherwise the material can go over their heads and they will just watch the MV without interacting and speaking English afterwards.

Anyhow, in the lesson, we showed them some North American indie music videos,, mainstream pop music videos, and Kpop Music Videos. We included videos such as Justice – D.A.N.C.E, Hot Chip – Boys From School, Ok Go – End Love, Ok Go – Here It Goes Again

We also showed some more mainstream pop music, such as Lady Gaga’s “Bad Romance”, Beyoncé “Single Ladies”, Justin Timberlake “Cry Me A River”, Justin Bieber “Baby”, and Kanye West “Stronger”.

Along with these videos we would show the students some trendy Kpop Music Videos, and then we would compare and contrast Korean vs North American videos. It made for a great English discussion (and, apparently, the beginning of Kpop Music Mondays!) Anyhow, the point here is not to recap our lesson, but to explain that we’ve actually had experience hearing Korean teens’ opinions on North American style music videos. And, yes, we know Justice and Hot Chip don’t count for North American. Our bad!

If it was too artsy, it was deemed as “boring”, although, as pointed out in our TL;DR video, Simon also would have been bored of artsy videos in High School, and we’re guessing that some of you would be as well. It seems difficult to decide if it’s a cultural difference or just an age thing. I’m sure it doesn’t help that they can’t fully understand the lyrics, which often make an artsy fartsy video complete. Lastly, if it was a fun and interesting video, such as Ok Go, it got the classes attention, but only 1/4 of the class would love it. As for mainstream pop stuff. Most of the students already knew the singers we were showing, but they were always shocked by the amount of skin being shown (I’m looking at you Lady Gaga) or the passionate kissing that occurred.

Now, anyone who is an avid Korean/Japanese drama watcher can attest to the fact that KISSING IN THESE DRAMAS SUCCCCKSSSSSS and not in the good sucky way (<–does that sound wrong?), in the “dead-fish-two-faces-colliding-zero-passion-I’m-surprised-your-lips-aren’t-awkwardly-sticking-together-from-lack-moisture-as-the-camera-zoomz-in-awkwardly” kind of way. We really think that’s why these passionate MV kisses are so shocking. Take Justin Timberlake’s “Cry Me A River”. This is a pretty not-sexy video, but right near the end, he makes out with a girl, nibbles her lip, and on top of all of that…she is shirtless! That’s an OMG BRAIN EXPLODE right there.

But then again, we mentioned how different Europe is from North America. We think Korean’s are innocent minded and then us ol’innocent Canadians wonder over to Europe and see people at the beach who are shirtless or totally nude. OMG DOUBLE BRAIN EXPLODE!!! So I guess it really just depends on what you are exposed to as you are growing up.

This ramble all leads to a point. What’s acceptable in one place may not be acceptable in another, and a country’s media isn’t some magical art form that is created out of a vacuum. The context is highly relevant in the creation of that media and art. And so, what is popular in one country won’t necessarily be popular in another. And this is no reflection on the quality of the media or art, rather, it reflects a country’s culture. All this talk about Kpop taking over the world is great and all, because we’re glad that Kpop is getting more coverage, but we don’t think that Kpop, or any other music for that matter, can dominate a planet. North American pop isn’t popular here, not because it sucks, but because it doesn’t fit. Jpop isn’t popular in England because it doesn’t fit, and the same can be said for Chinese pop in Finland (we’re guessing that last one). Sure, there are niche audiences in different regions that will like another country’s music, but we doubt it can totally take over the mainstream airwaves.

Or could it?

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  1. I know that commercial! i saw it on the Austrian television. or at least a similar one…

  2. Why do North-americans always think Europeans are more liberal and open to nasty things? like that nipples’ thing that martina and simon talked. As European, i never saw any commercial where people were naked or anything of the genre. in general, the idea I have is that we are much more traditional than the north-americans.
    Is true that Netherlands is legally quite liberal with prostitution and drugs, but in general, the citizens of European countries are pretty conservative and reserved in their daily lives.

  3. Students in Korea needs to grow up

    • Don’t worry, they will. They grow a day older every day, a year older every year, and after 50 years, they’ll all be 50 years older. ^^b

  4. In the music video of , did they laughed while they’re watching Gaga’s very big eyes makeup? When I saw it fist, I was really shocked at laughed a lot.

  5. What you’re saying about the north american music videos are so true. Most of them are so pornographic in asian countries’ standards. Very insightful and funny. 

  6. You guys should show them foster the people.

  7. the new youtube channel format is comfusing how do we vote

  8. WHAT??????? WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY COUNTERPART KOREAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS? THEY DIDN’T LIKE D.A.N.C.E.?????????? 

    I’m having a hemorrhage…

  9. OMG, I was shol about to ask this same question, so Im glad to see dis video.  It’s quite surprising to hear the korean student’s responses to NA videos. I wish you guys were still teaching because I would like for you guys to ask your students how do they feel about MOGEF banning harmless kpop videos when NA videos are 300 times raunchier than theirs? but really appreciate this video, it made me learn that culture really does influence any and every category.

  10. Can’t believe I missed this. :) 
    Thanks guys!
    I totally think of Scarlett Johanson when I see Martina ^^

  11. I thought this was really interesting because I like all different kinds of music but for each type of music I like someone thinks it’s really weird and Im always like WHY?

  12. wait is that the same hot chip who did the song i feel better? cuz that song / video is just…aaauuugghhh…><

  13. Guadalupe Sanchez Arrarte

    thisss wasss awesomeeeee!!!!!!

  14. Hi, First of all I greatly appriciate your blog as a Korean teacher in America. ^^ I am teaching middle school and high school students in AZ. I sometimes show Korean music videos, but I thought some dance or love scean is too sexual for teaching material. I am mid age Korean who has been in America for 7 years now. Do you think most Korean music video is ok or safe for American student?
    Feel like I am getting too old.
    Anyway I love your blog.

  15. I think this is one of the best TL;DR’s that you guys have done! loved the explanations and i think you guys were right on.

  16. I have to say that I really love your TL;DR’s, they are really interesting! Kepp up the good work! :D But I’m also curious, how can you stay in Korea if you’re not working?..

  17. YES GREAT EXCUSE FOR ME TO GO TO KOREA!!!! NGEHEHEHEHEHEH
    i think (maybe?) korea is the only asian country which is so super innocent.
    sources? look at me. asian, under 18 and knows everything that happens at bed. true story.

  18. Great topic! In El Salvador, k-pop bands such as Miss A and Shinee have become very popular because the music videos show things that are interesting to the teens such as the dancing and type of filming used. In fact, at the San Salvador Convention Center, they held a dance competition and the winners used Lucifer as their song.

  19. I like how when Simon was like let’s show male nipples i noticed he was wearing a milk shirt x)

  20. What about bands like Metallica? They are insanely popular in India (20,000+ audiences to see their shows)
    I guess rock / metal can dominate mainstream airwaves

  21. yeah… true with that kissing phrase… man, they suck bad genuinely… they aren’t romantic… its a mood killer instead… XDDDD

  22. Good topic; nice to know that kids these days still experience culture shock, after what so many have called “Westernization” of Asian nations. :)

    I have a side question, since you two haven’t been teaching for like a while now, how do you get the VISA to stay in/re-enter Korea? I thought you need to have a legal reason to reside there for an extended amount of time. I know US citizens are allowed to stay in Korea up to 90 days w/o a VISA (vice versa). Just wondering. I’d like to move there to live in the future, and I would like more info on how you two are getting by without a job in Korea and still be able to get the VISAs. Thanks! :D

  23. I still kind of feel weird at oversexualized videos here in North America and I’ve lived here my whole life exposed to this stuff.

  24. “The kids liked looking at Justin Timberlake…” Who the f*ck DOESN’T like looking at Justin Timberlake??? Sh*t. LOL!!!

  25. I am Korean but I love OKGO music video 
    maybe I am tired of same oh same oh  big industry music video of Korea.
    OKGO video are very refreshing

  26. I wonder what they would think of bands that are north american? X) since they have FT Island and CN Blue ^^ or maybe taylor swift, since she is more innocent clean type?

  27. Do you guys still visit your students?

  28. I would LOVE to see them react to LMFAO’s Sexy and I Know It XD

  29. Just my two cents, but I think korean idols and groups put a lot of
    emphasis on their dancing as part of their training with the company.
    They dance better because of practice and also have great choreographers
    who, let’s face it, come from all over the world. I
    heard SM utilizes many foreign based choreographers/dancers for their idols. Entertainers in the US seem to focus on just being able to create/perform
    music and “do their thing”. As much as I dislike JB (understatement), you have to give him props for being one of those lucky few who are able to do what they love and do it to the extent of his popularity.

    I’m surprised no one has really mentioned electronic music considering it’s a big influence in other genres all around lately. Those music videos can go to both extremes of being artsy or scandaliciously sexy/”dirty” (The Weekend, Who’s Your Daddy and Pon De Floor anyone?) even if lyrics are not involved. “Dirty” does not only exist in pop and hip hop (Maroon 5′s Misery comes to mind too). It might be my age, but even when I was younger I didn’t mind NA mvs for their lack of clothing or too much PDA. It was all intriguing. I could take or leave the story, but to me the music was more important than anything.

    I grew up with american and japanese music before I dove into korean, so I have an inkling that today’s greater acceptance of the innocent and cutesy natures found in kpop is due to the japanese market having already tested the waters (I could be wrong). I don’t think kpop will make a sweeping takeover of America or the world as people expect, but korean music as a whole will definitely resonate influences as much as japanese music has.

    /rant 8D

  30. Do korean kids know that Kpop owes a lot to north american music? Just look at Seo taiji. He drew a lot from north american music. He started the trend which eventually led to what Kpop has become. 

  31. Why dont you both are teachers anymore? :O

  32. if you guys arent teaching anymore, and are still in korea, what are you doing?

  33. There’s a Finnish Chinese-Pop fan club/society who’s totally livid at you right now.

  34. te apoyo es por esoq ue me gusta la música coreana!!! :))

  35. I do admit, its true North American music videos are dirty. They always show “dirty” scenes or too much skin showing then usual. It’s not like they dress like that all the time (unless you are those kinds of people)  I’m happen to be Asian but I’m not saying to defend Asia. About 90% Kpop music videos I seen are not dirty at all. Even the lyrics isn’t. In my school, a lot of dirty thoughts come in all students, and its very disturbing. =.=

    • I wouldn’t say that’s completely true. There’s a lot of music that is highly suggestive/marketed for semi-pedophiles (SNSD’s Oh!, Kara’s Mister etc.) There’s a lot less skin shown, but that doesn’t mean it’s more innocent.And if you read fanfiction…

  36. What if Koreans saw Eastern European music videos? Many North Americans are like “this is porn” when it’s just a few girls in tiny bikinis.

  37. I would love to see student reactions to Rihanna’s latest, “We Found Love”.  I imagine fun times explaining the dilating eyes, and the scene where she vomits up ribbons.

  38. “dead-fish-two-faces-colliding-zero-passion-I’m-surprised-your-lips-aren’t-awkwardly-sticking-together-from-lack-moisture-as-the-camera-zoomz-in-awkwardly”<————-THIS
    I tried to get my sister into Kdrama….but she saw the kissing and just laughed her face off….then she told me they were stupid and went back to watching NCIS…..*depression*

  39. Interesting. This video touches on different musical tastes of Koreans vs Americans. I want to know about different musical tastes between the two. 

  40. I am a European and yes, nipples are more common. I never saw an advertisement as mentioned in the video though. But if I watch german or european movies, there are more naked people than in american movies. I think it is ok for us Europeans to show naked people if the situation is not sexual. For example in a very famous movie called “Keinohrhasen” a woman wakes up – naked of course – and tries to go on toilett without waking the man sleeping next to her.
    Here in Germany we also have something called FKK (=Freikörperkultur). At beaches with that sign everybody is naked…not for doing naughty stuff (omg o0) but for swimming, tanning and other non-sexual stuff. Not everybody here likes it, but it is accepted.
    But our music videos are not as grubby as in North America. As far as I know you will find these makeout-sessions in Gangstaa-HipHop videos only. At the moment our musicians want to be very artsy ^^ (with titles like “if words would be my language”)

    • yeah that’s true, I have to agree to this

    • i am from austria-

      ,, ähem.. why do i write in english then? thaha lolol

      ich weiß genau was du meinst – und wir sind (denke ich zumindest noch laaaaaange nicht sooooooooo pervers..  *hoffentlich* xD )

      (thahaha–> FKK.. kayhaha)

  41. You know, I get the impression that media in North American has to be fierce, angry and in-your-face all the time which kind of kills the subtlety I guess. 

    BTW: get well soon, Spudgy!

  42. As a european I’m totally baffled and clueless where the notion comes from that nipples are more common over here on TV.

  43. It’s true that American videos contain lots of sexual elements and it doesn’t really sit well with Asian audiences, like me. I just feel awkward about it. Maybe it’s just me. XP

    But you guise like JB? >.> I dislike him. A lot.

  44. Do they air american music videos in korea like from lady gaga You and I ? 

  45. Did you ever show your students Micheal Jackson videos,?
    If yes, what was their reaction?

  46. I never thought about it before, but Cry Me A River would make a great English lesson.  The title of the song is an idiom, and you have to know what that means to really get the meaning of the song.  

    Right now kpop has three things working against it getting a widespread listening base in the U.S.  
    #1 It actually sounds similar to American pop.  For example, when I heard “Cry Cry”, it reminded me of “Hit Me Baby One More Time”.  Now, you might think that would be beneficial, because it’s a familiar sound (and it is in a way, but I’ll get to that later) but Americans need to be convinced that the alternative is better than what they already have.  That will be impossible to do because 
    #2 It’s not in English.  To be fair, looking at international song charts, the reverse seems to happen in Korea, though not as intensely.  Music is a form of communication, and when you have two songs with a similar sound, you’re more likely to prefer the one that can communicate to you.  It’s easier to learn the song and sing along with it when you comprehend what is being said.     
    #3 It’s not American.  Americans are wary of cultural strangers.  Canadians and U.K. artists make it in to U.S. mainstream radio play (though not that many) because the U.K., U.S. and Canada are like members of the same family.  They aren’t strangers.   There are occasionally some musicians from Australia, but rarely.  I guess Australia is like a distant cousin.  I’ve noticed Caribbean artists make it through on rare occasion, and Latin American artists if they’re willing to sing in English.  But Europe?  France, Germany, Italy, etc. etc.  Nope.  Strangers all.  Asia?  India, Russia, China, Japan?  Nope.  Strangers all. 
    However, I do think kpop definitely has and continues to build a niche listening base in the States. Its catchy, familiar sound gives it a competitive edge that other countries don’t have.

    • Yeah alot of diehard kpop fans get butthurt when ppl say that a kpop group won’t make it in America, but its the truth.
      The music they sing is quite elementary for American standards (along the lines of the disney channel/bieber)
      Most americans wont understand the use of makeup by so many male artists(prolly think they are gay) 
      They need to relate to Americans like maybe having westerners in their groups? Singing in English? Being more fierce? Having better pr representatives?

      I dont know but I would love to one day hear a kpop song stream through regular radio <3

  47. We had an English club at my school and every week it was my job to come up with a North American music video that was appropriate for 12-13 year olds (6th graders). I honestly think the ONLY thing they liked the whole year was Justin Bieber. They were bored with everything else (Glee, Taylor Swift, Jonas Brothers (the girls thought the Jonas boys were hot though), Kelly Clarkson, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, Beyonce). They were even bored with Girl’s Generation and 2ne1 when I did an English/K-POP lesson. Maybe my kids are just haters? I dunno… made for a really disappointing part of the lesson because I really tried to pick fun songs that didn’t have any nudity or too much kissing. Such a struggle as you know with North American videos.

  48. i wish we talked about kpop MV’s in class T.T

  49. Very interesting and a great lesson plan indeed: I’ll be stowing that one away and giving you all the credit! I have to agree with your assessment on Kpop also. It’s not that it is unenjoyable or anything, but it doesn’t represent an ideal or a telos (for lack of a better word) that resonates with North American youth, and I think that is the underlying philosophical issue. Great video guys!

  50. I watch a lot of European movies and they always seem to work in a nude scene in there somewhere… :P

  51. I’m an american born and raised, but I don’t like american music. I totally agree with your students that it’s either WAY to sexual (srsly there’s more to life, people!) or a very boring attempt at “artsy”. No offense you guys, I know those are some of your videos here, but I feel like although they give the impression of having some sort of deep meaning to them, it’s never really fleshed out. I dunno, I guess thats why I never really liked music till I discovered K-pop.

  52. Interesting… i sometimes show music videos to my japanese students, and not only have they (most of the time) no idea who the singers are (and i always pick like super-famous people to study), but when they do, they usually have never seen the videos… i purposely try to pick ones that don’t show too much skin though, cuz i don’t wanna freak anybody out… lol.

  53. hey … amm … isnt justice a french duo o.O ???

  54. TOP will take over the WOOOORLD.

  55. My taste falls in pretty well with that of your Korean students. I was never that into indie groups and I always end up scandalized by North American music videos and songs. xD I’m always asking “did they ACTUALLY just say what I think they said?” when I bother to listen to the lyrics because they’re just so… well, dirty. And the music videos, my goodness. I’m still constantly shocked, you’d think I’d be used to it by now. Though I must admit I can still watch and appreciate them even if I do find them dirty. A lot of them can be very interesting and creative.

    I just wonder how this happened, since I’m a white 21 year-old girl who grew up her whole life in the U.S. How strange….

    I always love your TL;DRs! Thanks for the video! <3

    P.S. I bet Taylor Swift would go over pretty well, since she's very pretty and usually has interesting but innocent songs and videos. Even I like her and I'm not into country at all.

    • im not too sure about korea but i think because taylor swift has more of an innocent vibe, she’s popular in asian countries.. my cousin who lives in Hong Kong likes her

    • “You Belong With Me.”  The geek glasses plus otherworldly American prettiness made for instant love in Korean middle school.  Girls were downloading Taylor Swift ringtones before the end of class.  So cute!

      I’ve lived in Canada for nearly my whole life, and I have a hard time finding music that speaks to me.  For a while, Over the Rhine did that, and Ani Difranco has little perfect gems in some of her songs, but it’s been really hard to find music I love for years, now.  I just settle into a wash of generic pop music when I need the background noise, and it makes me sad. 

    • You seem like the type that would hate on hyuna, or rihanna for being “too sexual”, but love it when a male pop star sings about sex and make sugestive music videos ¬¬

  56. sooo what do you guys do now

  57. It’s nice to hear a little more about the differences between North American and Korean pop-culture viewpoints. Though I think most high school students of any nationality would find it hard to get into artsy videos. :-)

    Yeah, we probably won’t get that “kpop world domination” that so many people have been hoping for. But on the upside, kpop fans still get to enjoy the music and spread the love. I’m happy when any of my friends start liking a Korean band, because it’s just one more tiny step toward exploring other cultures.

  58. WAAAAYYYY back in the early 90s, BEFORE jerry springer became super trashy, he used to have guests on his show and interview them like oprah and phil donahue used to. jerry had a man on a show that participated in high stake dared with his friends. they had a LOT of money to play with. one time a friend said he’d pay this man a million dollars to get breast implants and keep them in for 6 months. well, the man did….and liked them so much that, at the time, he had had them a year. the man actually showed the audience his chest and, even though it was a man’s chest and they have been fine on canadian tv forever, the man chest with implants was sensored out.
    so, simon, back in the early 90s i would have to say that, if male nipples were CGI’d onto a woman in a bikini, they probably WOULD sensor that!

  59. I wonder what would happen if you showed Korean students NA country music…??? I’m korean and I’ve been living in the south for like 10 years and I’M still not used to country

    • Country music is weird even to me and I’m not asian nor born or living in an asian country. xD It’s rare for teenagers to like country music anyway, so I doubt they would.

  60. Wasn´t Baywatch from the US? I bet they did not show that after 22. ^.^
    A lot of dirty MV can only be watched after 22 in Europe.
    And also you can say “fuck” in TV…. but the only one doing it are foreigners -.-°

  61. how the day sounds by Greg Laswell. Pure music video genius. It is a indie music video, in a empty grocery store.

  62. … hey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i totally disagree ! In France we don’t show all the time nipples … TT^TT i’m very sad , when it’s a dirty it’s all the time french or european for foreigners ….

    • Its more like you’ll never see nipples in the US on non cable TV, whereas it’s ok to show it in France. Not bad or dirty just another level of what’s acceptable. I think partial nudity is rated R here in the US.

  63. That Korean idols (Has this Japanese English become a proper English now?) can dance well is the result of their training system (연습생). Don’t you realize the similarity between the training system and examination hell (esp for college entrance)? All individual creativity is suppressed and they have to become dancing-singing machine first just like all high school students become exam-taking-machine. Most westerners think such education system is undesirable and counterproductive as it suppresses individuality and creativity. But I think it may be better to pursue individuality and creativity after mastering basic skills first even at the expense of creativity. I think often in the west, “developing creativity” is used as an excuse to avoid rigorous basic training. Classical musicians and ballet dancers seem to get more rigorous training even in the west, and the emphasis is learning skills to perform old established numbers.
    There may be a merit to examination hell type education system. 

  64. the truth about lady gaga’s bad romance? they’re dancing in an oddly lit room. hence probably a sense of familiarity.

  65. here its the link =) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPfL6YCZmd0&feature=colike

  66. i thought Korean love international celebs. like JB, Backstreet Boys, Westlife, Simple Plan.. because when i saw a video recently from Simple Plan coz they having a concert there. the crowd are SO BIG.! 

  67. Before I showed some european music video to some of my female Korean friend(we were both highschool students then) and well, for me it was pretty normal music video, but she said it was “dirty” because it had scene where some couple was kissing(no nudity, sexual things and so on, just a kiss). Also she noticed european singers are not all that pretty like korean idols. I gotta say i prefer korean MVs cause of their lack of perversion, but I noticed that korean bands who’ve made their debut in Japan tend to go alittle “dirtier”(ex. DBSK, Big Bang).

  68. So yep, referring to the question being asked (sorry for the OOT answer >.<), I do believe that in time, the individual students preferences would change based on how exposed they are to a certain culture, something like an acquired taste ?

    However the general audience would find it harder to accept NA musics, because the way Korean society is being woven is almost close knitted, as in, not so open to outside influence, as opposed to, say Japanese culture which could easily absorb outside influence and Japan-ify them (well, the simplest example of this would be Japanese anime, which originated from western animation)

    Unless, the NA group are creating "Korean Version" of their music videos, just like the way Kpop artists do when they promote their music overseas (example, SNSD Genie vs Genie Japan version)

  69. Wow I have been noticing of this difference for so long but I never thought much of it before !!
    Although I am Asian, but I grew up before the “Asian Invasion” period, aka before Kdrama or Jdrama was making their ways into mainstream media, so I am pretty much exposed to the so called Western musics & videos.

    Recently, however, I began to appreciate Asian musics, due to the influence of my sister and teh internetz :p But when I show Kpop MVs to one of my friend (which is also Asian) that grew up listening to the same music that I listened to (Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, etc), she has this “wth am I watching ?!!11!” reaction.

    (Yes, even to the ohsofabulous BEG Abracadabra !! And I was like, Y U NO like Abracadabra ! it’s so awesome, so sekseh, so hot !! And She was like, yeah whatev, can we watch LMFAO pls ?
    *the sounds of my heart shattered*)

    So the same reaction of oblivion is shown by my sister, who is probably much more exposed to Kpop or other Asian musics, so when I showed her artsy indie MV…. *cricket sounds* She’ll probably be commenting more on the fashion or style or make up than the way the video is being directed….

    (But lately she began to appreciate and more exposed to creative videos due to the influence of her current bf, who is an animation major. Good job sister-boyffie ! I cant wait for the day me and my sister can bond over 9gag comics~ XD

  70. Bwahaha. I wonder what the reaction would be then to North American country music videos as it’s different all around, but some would consider more “modest” when compared to pop/hiphop music videos.

  71. Thanks for this video.  I agree with the Korean students who dont like western pop.  i am a westerner myself and I dont like smutty, over the top porno type music videos by American or Uk artists…it really isnt necessary to promote music. 
    A good song doesnt require nudity or semi nudity…
    I jsut love kpop cos its clean, well shoreographed and fun to watch…not to mention the stars always look clean and well groomed…who wants to see sweaty pits and oily hair?  Not in Korean pop we dont.

  72. I love the Hot Chip video! It reminds me of all those summer afternoons watching Art Attack! 2 parts PVA glue! Also so much male ‘nipple’!
    I think you raise a very interesting point about niche markets and the rise Kpop in North America. I’m also not so sure that it will gain a widespread listening audience but North American radio music is becoming ever more pop sounding.

  73. I am not that into into English Music and that im asian so im not that opened minded so i think my point of views are going to be almost the same with Korean students but alot of english MVs are not my kind of video i say..

    p/s: i tot OK Go was saying about Bilasa Knocks my head

  74. I agree about the dancing standards! When I am sitting here and Big Time Rush come on TV I think to myself wow, these guys really can’t dance only because the korean kpop bands are like super amazing!

  75. Lady Gaga a big Katamari ball, hilarious! 

  76. I taught in Taiwan in and the students were in love with Gwen Stefani and Rihanna; I didn’t show them their videos, they requested to play them in class. I think they loved the beat rather than the video.   Also, fun fact (to me anyway): Lady Gaga’s Poker Face m/v was shot at the same house as DBSK’s Believe (LA version) m/v. :D

  77. As always, love the TL;DR. I was very pumped to hear that you guys showed Ok Go to your students. They always have very interesting music videos. 

    And I think you guys are right, music is not a creation separate from the culture. There are definitely factors that suggest that culture influences a lot of music. The saying goes that you can learn a lot about a culture from what it produces…But I can’t help but think that music, literature, and other artsy stuff influence the culture as well – I think there might be this back and forth process between the two and then of course, the influence over those who consume it.  

  78. Booties and hoes. Oh, Simon, you were so ghetto-fab in high school. xD

    I can’t imagine being “resensitized” to North American music videos. I grew up with the same type of videos Simon watched (“Knockin’ Boots,” “Poison” by BBD, and other smexy-time-like videos) since I was, like, five. This is probably why I find myself often laughing at almost all romantic KPop videos because of the mega-innocence. But I find it sweet that Korean youths maintain such innocence for a while, which I feel is something we often wish for our Western kids to keep.

  79. i know what you mean. Korean stars get put in a spot or make news for showing a spot of cleavage (which seriously is noooooothing compared to cleavage your average mom would show) but they wear shirts and leave their shorts at home at thats completely fine. I guess it’s cultural differences again, stylists being limited to showing only legs, so they show as much of it as possible. Personally I wish their skirts and shorts could be longer (i wonder how they move around and dance so unconsciously in those things. If i wore a skirt that mini i’d be waddling like a penguin instead of walking!) 

  80. what do you o for work now?

  81. d.a.n.c.e so awesome !

  82. punkyprincess92

    YOU DON’T TEACH ANYMORE????????!!!!!!!!!!!

    O_O
    anyway i wasn’t expecting to see this video right now cos i JUST watched your candy one!! i used to know EVERYTHING about the British and American entertainment industry but then Japan and South Korea just took over!! but before i got into the Asian entertainment industry i was already innocent which is why i never really watched a Lady Gaga video fully or other ones! (obviously i have watched some other ones though) I don’t listen to Justin Bieber but my sister is always willing to annoy me with him

  83. My kids FREAK OUT at even the tiniest amount of cleavage shown in videos by, say, Girls Aloud…I showed them Katy Perry’s “California Gurls” where she’s naked on a cloud at one point…but they were too mesmerised by the candy world so didn’t freak…until the part where she shoots whipping cream from her boobs. The kids always say the videos are “dirty” for showing boob, but when I point out that K-Pop girls often walk around in practically not-there short shorts, you can see some minds ticking but most go “no, no, different!”…If I had a choice between seeing a boob or a vagina exposed in public, I know which I’d choose.

  84. ~ I just love the catchyness of TL:DR music at the begining ~ ^-^

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