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After School Club: What We Wanted to Say

January 7, 2015

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Hi everyone!

Though we’re on hiatus for January, and Leigh and Soo Zee are off on vacation, that doesn’t really mean that we’ve taken much of a break lately. Ha! We just came back from filming an ultra fun episode of After School Club with Kevin, Eric, and Jimin. It was our first time on the show! We’ve spoken with Eric a few times about doing an episode together, and now that our schedules were kinda free, we thought it’d be a good time to come on. Woot! If you didn’t watch it yet, you can check it out here. Yay!

We are a bit saddened by one thing, though, and we wanted to share it here, because we didn’t get a chance to share it on the show. See, we were given a bit of a loose guideline about what questions were going to be asked beforehand. During the Hangout Session, people planned what questions they wanted to ask us, which is how we came up with our awesome name for our band. If Jimin, Simon, Martina, Kevin, and Eric all were in a band, what would we be called? Well, the answer is probably the best thing we ever did on TV. HA!

However, the next question that was supposed to be asked was skipped, and it’s kinda our fault. Danielle, who is co-founder of the European Nasties, popped up on the screen, and we got very excited, and started talking a lot more than we should have. We saw her in our European Tours, and we’re really honoured that she’s helping out with the European Nasties Facebook page, so we blathered on for a bit too long. And that’s unfortunate, because that means that we didn’t have time for the next person, Anna, to ask her question, which was a really important one that we wanted to discuss today. The question was something along the lines of “any advice for an aspiring Youtuber?” Here’s what we wanted to say:

One of the things we focus on most is how we can improve ourselves. We look back on our old videos and we’re embarrassed at how bad they are. The lighting is awful; the sound is echoey; the talking goes on for too long. We constantly look back on our older videos and try to see what we didn’t like about them, and do our best to try to make them better. So the main point we’d suggest is to never stop trying to make better content.

This, however, doesn’t just go for the technical side of it, but also for the things you say and do in your videos as well. When you’re on the internet, you can always see people’s responses to your blog posts. You can read it in their comments, or on Twitter, or on their own blogs, whatever. And when you read them, you can see what you can change in your content on top of that. This is something we make sure we try to do. We’ve read about how we’ve said things that are offensive in the past, and we do our best to not make the same mistakes again. The way we described Hyuna’s dancing in 2011 we would never say now. The ways in which we described concepts in Kpop videos we’ll never use again. Some of the skits or games we’ve done…yeah, not our brightest moments. We look back to what we did before, and we do our best to grow. We made lots of dumb mistakes in the past, said some things and did some videos that at the time seemed harmless enough, but now we wish we could change. It’s challenging, and embarrassing even, to look back on some of the stuff we’ve done, but once we’re made aware of them, we think about them deeply, discuss them with each other and with Leigh and Soo Zee thoroughly, and do our best to not repeat the same mistakes.

It’s challenging, though, to find the points on which we can change. Some people make points that we flat out disagree with, others take posts completely out of context or even spread total lies about us, some just have a very deep hatred of white people in general, and a special few wish death on us and even our pets. It’s challenging to wade through the anger to find civil discussions on the mistakes we’ve made, but – in the end – even if it’s uncomfortable to read them, it’s still a challenge we take on in our hopes of trying to grow and to improve our content. It’s something we hope that other bloggers can take heart in doing themselves, to keep on revising, to keep challenging themselves, and to keep growing :D

We want to thank all those people for the past seven years that have taken the time to send us an email or to write a blog post that criticized something with did or said in a civil and intelligent manner. If it wasn’t for you we wouldn’t haven taken the time to reflect on our mistakes. But to those of you that called us various names, threatened our lives, or harassed us online, we want you to know that your ugly comments are simply blocked out and dismissed. If you truly want someone to change or see fault in their ways, then screaming profanities at them is not the way to foster growth. If you’re truly and honestly looking for change then you need to take the time to be civil and discuss the issue with someone, otherwise you just seem like an angry crazy person spewing hatred and perpetuating violence.

So, I realize now that this probably would have went well over the 20 minute mark. Time really flies when you’re live on TV! It really felt like we were on there for, like, five minutes.

Altogether, though, looking at all of the rage that’s happening on Twitter, we do want to say that we’re sorry if you watched one of our videos and we said or did something that displeased you. We’re trying to get better. We never stop trying. But we mess up sometimes. Unfortunately, though, the internet looks like a game of Tetris: all of your accomplishments vanish, and all that remains behind are the mistakes you’ve made. Hopefully, we don’t keep on repeating those mistakes. Thanks to those of you who put up with our crap and support us over the years. After all, we’re only human and make dumb mistakes like everyone else in the world.

And, on that note, long live JISIMAKER!

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  1. I have no idea why the hate, (Other than people wanting more ‘Kpop videos’) i’m not sure what people are offended about but i am happy you have a great mind about the thing instead of being down. Finding solutions to criticism and wanting to improve.

    4 years ago
  2. I never realised how much hate you guys get, and it disgusts be that people would send death threats. You have the right mind though! By this criticism you can find a solution and improve. Don’t be embarrassed by your previous videos though because at the time that is the best you could do.

    4 years ago
  3. I’ve been watching your videos since 2011 and I know how much you’ve changed. I’ve never felt offended by your videos, but I haven’t always agreed with your opinion either. However I respect the fact that only because I think that something is good that doesn’t mean that the thing really is good. It’s sad that not everyone can think the same way and I can’t imagine how hard must be for you when someone feels offended by a comment that was supposed to make the person laugh. The scripts you do (specially for KMM) but be a very delicate part of the work, since one word wrong could cause a huge misunderstanding and a ton of hate and hurtful comments from angry fans and people.
    I must say that I didn’t like all the changes the site, KMM and other features had, but I know that you are trying your best to please everyone and I appreciate that. It’s not a easy thing to do, specially when you have a lot of fans and people who watch your videos. So when you do something wrong, it’s ok, you’re humans too (I suppose, haha), and I prefer this imperfect couple that do youtube videos because that’s what make you unique, being perfect is too boring.
    I hope that the mistakes can be worked out and you can learn from them, that the people who felt offended can clear the misunderstandings and that the Eat Your Kimchi can continue to grow and become even better. You guys are the best! (σ≧∇≦)σ

    4 years ago
  4. Yay, ASC! I also just wanted to say that your videos provide an opportunity for me to learn more about Korea and its culture, from your perspectives. They are entertaining, at times informative, but overall, inspiring. I would have not gotten this exposure to the Korean culture (also Japanese and European, especially the food, lol) otherwise. You have a right to enjoy doing what you want, and if viewers like me enjoy the process, like the youtube videos and blog posts, then all the better. The whole point of growing and developing, is to learn from mistakes. There will be good days and bad days. You guys are doing great. It is absolutely wrong of others to cyberbully you.

    4 years ago
  5. Guys why did you take down kpop charts? why are you disconecting with kpop when you appeared in ASC, when kpop fans were the ones that got you were you are, i’m sorry that the amount of bad comments and hate but please go back to the old reviews and kpop stuff :( i hope you guys get to feel better and think this out, do it for the nasties, you know that no matter what we’ll still be there :/

    4 years ago
    • They took it down cuz one of their interns, Rose, is working on something for it (she instagrammed it or said something about it on some social media). Don’t worry, I doubt it’ll be completely removed!

      4 years ago
  6. Hey guys, I really find a bit sad what are you going trough right now with all the hate coming your way. However I wish that won’t deter you from doing what you, that is trying to entertain people by having fun in your videos and not taking things too seriously. It must be difficult to deal with the threats and the accusations but at the end of the day your supporters are far more than your so called “haters”.
    Also as a older fan (29) I have found in your videos a way to explore the world, and especially South Korea, beyond my job and my daily life. My experience has also taught me that hate also passes, the same people that are accusing you today are going to find somebody or something else to direct their anger. I am not talking about the people that are open to a dialogue
    but the ones that accuse and threaten without even considering the lives they are affecting. Just keep in mind the love of all your fans and you going to get through this.
    I send you my support and hope you find new inspirations to keep inspiring others ;).

    4 years ago
    • What??! I’m not the only 29 year old here?! AWESOME!! :D

      I second and support your well written comment. I try to remind myself that many of the “haters” or people who are quick to oppose something are either immature, inexperienced, or have not experienced much of what life has to offer. Simon and Martina have given countless local and international people the ability to experience and/or learn about new places, culture, language, ideas, and foods. It’s people like Simon and Martina that connect with many different people and allow people to expand their horizons!

      4 years ago
    • I’m loving this thread! :D

      4 years ago
    • Its hard to find a kpop fan over 20 these days xD I myself am 21

      4 years ago
      • Im 23! My best friend is 23 and her cousin is 25 and we are all KPOP fans!!

        4 years ago
      • Im 37 and a Kpop fan:)

        4 years ago
      • I’m 26 and my husband will be 26 in April. Been a fan for…. about 5 or so years now! I thought I was the oddball out, being so old, but then I realized there were people my age and older when I started reading comments here on the EYK site. Then I joined the Nasty Red Region page… Oh yeah, lots of older people! YAY!!! lol

        4 years ago
        • Oh godness, I am not alone! 30 years old here. Happy to see so many level headed older fans here as nasties<3

          4 years ago
      • Um, 35 :) until I joined the green nasties fb page, I was always the oldest..but there we have a great group of older fans and awesome younger fans as well :)

        4 years ago
        • I’m 35 as well. I kinda found Kpop on my own, but my overall love for Korean culture I completely give EatYourKimchi credit for. I think there is more Kpop fans in our age range then realized, we just are not as vocal as our younger counterparts.

          4 years ago
        • 34 (35 in March) here, have been a fan of k-music on and off since 1999, and I know people my age and older who love kpop. We do exist! :)

          4 years ago
        • *cough* 45…. I will own it. I love EYK and crew!!! They are a positive force in my life. It is almost everyday that there is something that they do that brightens my day. I am wishing there was something we could do to make it all better, but I know S&M will make it through and be even more amazing. Rock it, flaunt it and be the best that you are! Tons of love. ;-)

          4 years ago
        • 34 year old here too :) My wife and I have watched EYK for years, it’s just good fun, light-hearted entertainment.

          4 years ago
      • I know, is even harder to find a K-Pop fan approaching their 30s XD. but in spite of age I learned to enjoy it and because of age I also learned not to take it too seriously.

        4 years ago
        • It’s so nice discovering other people of the same age group! I won’t admit to an exact number but I am in the range. =) And yes! I’m always marveling at some of the things fan say/do and think they’ll regret it when they get older.

          4 years ago
        • Not only am I 26 and the biggest K-pop fan ever, but I’m also a Caucasian male. Pretty sure I’m the only one in existence… ^_^;

          4 years ago
        • -eye glittering- I hope to be like you guys when I’m in my upper 20s. Hahaha.

          But really I’ve eased up on the kpop part and much more interested in the culture itself :)

          4 years ago
        • Another old fan here (28 this year)! We’re like unicorns in terms of our rarity, but we do exist! XD

          4 years ago
  7. Oh :3 I love you guys.
    I just went on a light, polite, rage EYK semi-defense comment spree. This post makes me feel better. I do believe that you’ve made quite a few mistakes, but I’ve never hated you guys for them, and am glad that you can get over them and hate while accepting that you should not have done many things.
    This is a mature post. (Well, save that JISIMAKER joke… That I think I get but don’t like or just don’t get) Unlike some people- both your haters and your defenders. Civilized people are harder to find these days…
    I JUST FORGOT EVERYTHING ELSE I WANTED TO SAY WHYYYYY

    TT.TT Anyhow, thank you for this post, for your work and passion. It’s a pity many of the more civilized antis won’t read this post BECAUSE of the fact that they are civilized and try to avoid conflict…

    And I hope this post can be read, my posts aren’t showing up on EYK lately…

    4 years ago
  8. I don’t use twitter or tumblr, so *thank god* I’ve managed to avoid coming across some of the vitriol that gets thrown at you guys. I’m 100% sure you’re aware of this, but remember it’s always the most hateful people who shout the loudest. Unfortunately, it’s just you guys’ luck that you’re associated with a part of internet culture that has such a strong emphasis on cliques and antagonism between them – I’ve noticed that the emotionally-stunted people who direct such hate at you almost always refer to you as S&M or EYK, because apparently in their minds attacking two human beings is the same as doing so to a kpop group that will never in a million years come across the awful things they’ve written. (Although doing that is also very weird, but there you go…) Anyway, best of luck to you too and thanks so much for the wonderful content you produce!

    4 years ago
    • I agree that twitter and tumblr seem to be cesspools for hate. Also on that fact that the discontent tend to be the loudest. I feel like a greater number of people looked at the hate being thrown around and wondered why those people even bothered. It reminds me of how every time a certain sports-related writer would publish something online this same group of people would make hate comments on each article. It makes you wonder why people simply can’t ignore those they dislike.

      4 years ago
  9. Hey guys, can anyone just explain to me the whole situation? I just saw this post on my twitter feed and read it naturally but this post seemed darker than others :/
    I did some digging into EYK past tweets and they werent nice at all. However im still confused on where this is from? Did EYK say something that ruffled some feathers of a particular fandom?

    Fan of EYK for years and I have never seen so much childish and immature comments/hate on this channel.
    EYK has opinions just like everyone else and it seems like something was taken out of context :/

    Cheers guys. EYK <3

    4 years ago
    • I’m so confused too, I’ve never seen the mean comments they are getting and for me it came out of nowhere. All my friends that are into KPOP love Simon and Martina and I’ve only seen positive things about them in the past

      4 years ago
  10. I would like to state first off, that I am not an avid EYK viewer. I watched a few episodes when I first moved to Korea, which were very informative, but since then there have been many things that have happened that, unfortunately, made it difficult for me to continue subscribing.

    Since you are open to polite discussions and criticism, I would like to point out one of the main things that has always bothered me. I realize you might be saying this to be funny, get a laugh, or just tell it like it is, but I don’t think many people appreciate your comments concerning idols’ English levels. As former teachers, I’m sure you know that not every student excels at learning a second language. So why do you make fun of and condemn idols? You currently live in another country where a different language is spoken, but you have remarked in the past that you do not know much Korean and have not tried to increase your Korean ability. If that has changed recently, I apologize, but if it has not… how can you judge others? You expect Koreans to learn English while living in Korea, but you do not expect foreigners living in Korea to learn Korean? Then you encourage young people to come over here to teach English and make it seem like it is okay to NOT learn the language of the country they are living in, which, I think, is a little disrespectful to the people around you. And it is extremely disrespectful to the idols who are working not only on singing and dancing, but also foreign languages so they can speak with fans, and news casters, bloggers, interviewers, etc, around the world.

    Sorry for the long winded comment. I just hope you take this as polite criticism with accompanying explanation for something that has bothered many people over the years.

    4 years ago
    • I see why you are so confused. Maybe I can help. Simon and Martina seem to find it odd/funny that major music companies spend so much money on artists, songs and videos, but don’t take the very simple step of having a fluent (or even mostly fluent) English-speaker look over lyrics to weed out the worst of the mistakes. There are a few reasons why this is puzzling, but one of their big points is that the warped English phrases will actually cause many English-speakers not to take K-Pop seriously.

      Simon and Martina don’t think K-Pop idols need to learn fluent English, that would be crazy! As far as I know, they don’t criticize any individual’s English abilities either – it’s about the lyrics. Of course, I’m sure you could find an example or two of them saying something that, taken out of context, would allow someone to argue otherwise. Maybe this is why you didn’t understand?

      I hope I was helpful, I think this was really all just a big misunderstanding.

      4 years ago
    • Since you’re not an EYK viewer I just wanted to say a few things.
      There are a lot of EYK commenters/viewers who would make a comment and apologize for their bad English. I remember clearly that Simon and Martina once spoke about this in one of their videos. They said that they would NEVER make fun of somebody who is trying to improve their language skills or learn another language and nobody should apologize for not being proficient in a certain language because they know what its like as foreigners trying to learn korean. They spoke about this in detail but obviously, I can’t remember it all but I can assure you that EYK are definitely not making fun of idol’s English abilities.
      On another hand I’ve always found it ignorant of kpop to use english words without knowing its meaning. Imagine an western song with random asian words in their lyrics. Im sure as hell people would be complaining about how ‘racist’ the song is. I know that kpop doesn’t intend to offend people with english lyrics and that they do it out of admiration for western culture…but at the same time it can be viewed as an ignorant and disrespectful use of the language.

      4 years ago
    • All of you bring up a good point- they are making fun of the lyrics and the lines given to actors/ idols. And it is the companies that are at fault. But how many times did EYK call out the companies? In the end, they are still making fun of another person’s speaking. I’ve had many students who are great at reading and writing, but will not speak. Why? Because they made a mistake and were criticized and/or made fun of. It can shatter a person’s confidence.

      I know, I shouldn’t expect them to make a distinction every time they comment on English lyrics, but what can I say? I’m a teacher with impressionable students. All it takes is one misplaced comment meant to be a joke (a student overheard a teacher make a joke about another student’s incorrect grammar) to make someone afraid of speaking English.

      4 years ago
      • I’ll forgive since you said you don’t watch the videos that much but they call out the companies a lot. It’s usually “Why is SM giving them these lyrics” or they’ll refer to the band, which is brand and not the actual person. And it’s usually “____’s line” not “____ said.” Believe me, the kpop idols are ready and willing to admit the english they speak is not the best, when it’s a product like a song or a billboard it’s a professionally made thing, it’s not personal and it should be open to more criticism. There are so many filters it passes through that by the end point it should be something logical and professional. If it isn’t, then yeah it is pen to ridicule and I don’t think idols take it that personally because they have a lot of really embarrassing Korean lyrics too that don’t make a lot of sense but everyone has an awareness they the idol is just the mouthpiece.

        You’re correlating students’ personal work and effort versus designed products, and I just don’t think it works here. Their personal confidence doesn’t come from the lyrics since few lyrics are a result of the idols’ input, and even in the cases where it is, there should be a multitude of people there to correct it before it gets performed in front of people, it’s called professionalism.

        I honestly think Simon and Martina speak a lot more Korean in their day to day, but since they can’t do it at a decently professional level for camera each and every time, we don’t see a lot of it.

        4 years ago
    • I’ve never understood this point. They don’t make fun of idol’s actual english skills, or if they are it’s something that the idol has committed to publishing even though it makes no grammatical sense. There’s a difference between making fun of someone’s legit english level anda commercial product that they make fun of on WANKs and in lyrics. Those are professional products that someone is using to advertise yet it makes no sense despite the fact that Koreans work hard to learn english, of COURSE it’s free game because it is hillarious. No matter what your target language is, if you say something incomprehensible, it’s funny. Even more so when someone has the confidence to put it on a professional product even though it’s gibberish and not even get a proof reader.

      4 years ago
      • Exactly! And it isn’t as though these mistakes could have been honest mistakes in some cases. A lot of these groups have a native English speaker in them. If the lyrics were up to the idols, surely the native English speaker would have said, “umm, excuse me, but this is gibberish.” When we laugh at the English in a song, we’re laughing at the company.

        Also, I think the companies intentionally put weird English into songs to get the international crowd talking about their song. I’m STILL having conversations about what “fantastic elastic” is supposed to mean. As a marketing tool, it’s sort of brilliant, though it’s sad that it sometimes makes an otherwise amazing song sound a bit silly.

        4 years ago
    • In case Simon and Martina don’t get a chance to reply to this, I’m going to clarify about this because many people seem to not understand about this. And I get it, if you don’t live in Korea or don’t understand much about entertainment companies here, you might make assumptions that they are making fun of actual idols’ English, but that isn’t the case.

      Simon and Martina are not criticizing the idol’s efforts in English. They are criticizing the COMPANY’S English. And these huge companies deserve to be called out, especially when they are going after an international audience.

      Being married to a Korean myself, and living in Korea, I get extremely frustrated at the arrogance at higher levels of Korean society when it comes to English. As does my husband who has acquired a good level of English. Koreans with actual English skills get pretty angry at the way English can be used in Korea. Many Kpop stars who have fluent English themselves have been forced to sing nonsensical English lines by their companies. I don’t think Simon and Martina have ever criticized an idol’s English where they are just trying in an interview or anything like that. When they are criticizing a song, they are criticizing the company and producers that made a song. When an idol sings with terrible English pronunciation, it’s not their fault – it’s the companies fault for either making them sing a random line that contributes nothing and they aren’t comfortable doing or for not providing the time and professional help in order to make that line work in the song. Rating the English in a song is not “oh lets make fun of the Koreans trying to speak English” it’s highlighting how badly English can be used and how it could be improved. And there sure are a lot of people higher up in the hierarchy system in Korea and in companies that need to learn that.

      Now to your point about not learning Korean. EYK have better Korean skills than me, even though I am married to a Korean. They can get around just fine, while I’m left floundering. My goal is to one day be fluent, but I hardly see why that has to be their goal. If someone has enough language skills to function within a country, isn’t that enough? They aren’t walking around forcing English on everyone, they are speaking enough Korean to be able to live in Korea.

      The problem with your argument is that when applied to other situations, it starts to get unfair. I could say the same thing to friends living in Australia who barely have any English skills. By that logic they SHOULD be learning more than basic English. I know it’s been very difficult for my sister in law to learn English while she has been in Australia for the past 2 years and at the end of the day, does she really need to if she is surviving and will one day return to Korea? If my parents in law one day move to Australia, they will have no English skills at all and won’t learn. Are they being disrespectful to the people around them if they do that? It’s something to think about.

      Also besides from what someone chooses to do, learning languages is not the same for everyone. I know plenty of teachers in Korea who have almost no chance to learn Korean because their entire work life is in English. Perhaps you’d like to criticize me for not speaking Korean well after living in Korea for a year and with my inlaws? Learning Korean is extremely difficult and is different for everyone. It doesn’t mean that someone is disrespecting everyone around them.

      4 years ago
      • “You seem to lack understanding of what it’s actually like to live in another country.” The original poster lives in Korea btw

        4 years ago
        • So if the original poster actually lives in Korea they have a lack of understanding that everyone’s experiences are different and a total lack of compassion for other people’s situations if they have beliefs like that.

          Unfortunately I often see comments from people who come to Korea and are studying Korean full time at university, criticize others living in Korea for not being fluent in Korean. I’d love to put those people in a different situation and see how they handle it. It would be nice if people would stop being so judgmental about other’s language levels.

          4 years ago
      • Sorry, apparently I can’t edit my reply >< I'll concede to the lyrics part because I agree it's the companies fault (I'll make a generalized reply after this). However, as for the Korean- last time I heard, they knew enough Korean to get by, and that was it. I have coworkers who have been in Korea for less than 1 year that can do the same. But they aren't planning on staying in Korea for years, just for a year or two. I guess I'm just a little ashamed that they don't see it as an important thing to be fluent in the language of the country they plan on living in.

        You mentioned your sister in law who will be returning to Korea. You are right, being able to survive is enough for her, but what about EYK? As far as I can tell, they plan on staying here for awhile. And since part of their job entails conversing with Koreans, learning to converse in Korean seems a little important.

        As for your in laws, unfortunately yes, if they moved to Australia and did not learn any English, I think they are being disrespectful. It is like saying they are more important and above learning to converse with the people around them.

        And yes, you are correct. As an English teacher and a Korean language student, everyone learns different. You are living here and trying to learn and I applaud you! I have difficulty also and study every day. But we are both doing something EYK is not: trying to learn.

        Think of the reverse: If they were a Korean who moved to America and tried to get a job or tried to work or tried to interview people and they couldn't speak the language, how do you think people would react? They would be understanding at first yes. But after 7 years? Some level of fluency is to be expected.

        4 years ago
        • I’m not sure I understand. Is there some sort of requirement or law that people living in Korea speak the language?

          One of the things that strikes me about your post is your assumptions about America. We get such a bad rap sometimes! If a Korean came to America (and we have quite a few who have), there’s no requirement to speak English other than that individual’s own personal decision to work on it or not. This may make getting by here more difficult, or not.

          Korea, from what I know, is a fairly homogenous society and this has its benefits. America, from what I live, is a fairly diverse society and this has its drawbacks. One of the most beautiful things about my country, though, is how we try. Americans are strange, naive and complicated people. We make very ugly mistakes, but we keep going and refuse to be defined by them. We have this faith that we will get to where we belong – becoming a more just, tolerant society.

          What do you hope for Korea?

          4 years ago
        • This is a personal topic for me. In the town I grew up in, there is a large Latino population, however many of those Latinos don’t speak Spanish. Do you know why they don’t speak Spanish? Because when their grandparents came they weren’t allowed to speak Spanish. They were told they were in America and they needed to speak English. Their children would be punished in schools if they spoke Spanish. So after having it basically beaten out of them, they stopped speaking Spanish. Do you think that was right to do that? I don’t. My 94 year old grandmother came to this country when she was in her 20’s, and she still only has a moderate grasp of English. My grandmother can speak whatever damn language she wants to. The father of the New York City police officer who was murdered needed translators at the funeral because after 20 years in this country, he didn’t have enough English to eulogize his son. He can speak whatever damn language he wants to. If people don’t like that my grandmother and Wenjian Liu’s father never felt the need to learn more English, they can fuck right off.

          4 years ago
        • To answer your last question first. I know plenty of Koreans who have lived in Australia for years who don’t speak much English and don’t need to because they work in a Korean environment. They live with Koreans, they work with Koreans, it’s pretty hard to get a fluency in English and I don’t think they are being disrespectful by not being fluent. What a shame that you think that aging Koreans, like my inlaws, who will move to another country for their son are being disrespectful by not being able to learn English. You seem to lack understanding of what it’s actually like to live in another country. I’m not sure why you think my inlaws would be just dropped into a bunch of English speaking Australians? They would be living in a Korea town surrounded by Koreans in Australia. It hardly makes sense to learn much English at all. Obviously we have very different experiences that makes our views very different about living in another country.

          The same for people who are working in their native language in another country. Simon and Martina taught English and had to speak English all the time, now they work in a studio where English is the main language spoken. They write in English, they make videos in English, most work related stuff is actually in English. The same with my husband and I, our work, although in Korea, is mostly in English.

          The biggest problem with your post is your assumptions. You have assumed many things about Simon and Martina but you don’t really know that much. When we are with them in Seoul they ask my husband many questions about Korean culture and language. Martina especially asks what things are called and how things are said. So it’s hardly fair to assume that they are just deliberately learning nothing. Please don’t make assumptions like that.

          4 years ago
      • I’ll concede to the lyrics part because I agree that it’s the companies fault. Most of the times I’ve seen them laugh at lyrics, I don’t think they actually called out the c

        4 years ago
    • When I watch the KMMs, it’s mostly the English LYRICS that are judged (as a joke, like you said, so lightly judged) which is not the idols’ fault but the companies. Criticizing companies is more justifiable, is it not? As a company, they have resources to have better written English in their songs. Again, still a joke, mm any love the Engrish lyrics.

      This is the only point I can clarify for you, on my own observations. Hope I was of help.

      4 years ago
    • Hey mate, just adding to your comment as a teacher as well :)
      In relation to the English of idols is it related to their general speaking ability of English or the English used in their music?

      4 years ago
  11. as a gateway into the k-world. But as we all get older we grow and start seeing things in a new light and this weekend just kinda scared me. I tried to see where the points of hate were valid and although as you admitted, their might be a few, I just couldn’t see why the hate was being regurgitated as much as it was. I have never been so angry with individuals in my life. I was severly contemplating making an account just to troll the trolls…

    That being said you guys, as a company, have made mistakes but what company hasn’t? As people, you have grown and learned many lessons. There is an old saying, a problem is only a problem if it can’t be fixed, otherwise, its just a harsh lesson. Seeing you guys make this post acknowledging this hate and learning from it just makes me love you guys more. As a fan and individual, I will always be supporting you from my little corner of the purple region. Much love and many interweb hugs!!!

    4 years ago
  12. Hey guys! I love your videos. Especially if I had a long day and need a little break. Ignore the kids, the craziness comes with the territory of being “famous”. I really like your recent travel videos, I get to take virtual trips through you. Do your thing! Hope Martina feels better.

    4 years ago
  13. This morning at 6am, I went online to check how ASC went and saw an allkpop thread. As I started reading, I grew more and more confused: I never realized how much hate has been aimed at EYK. I went on to see more threads on different forums and even saw the Change.org petition. I was blown away. By 7am, my morning was ruined: I have never heard anything more ridiculous in my life. And now, reading your thoughts, I don’t understand why you are apologizing for some of your past videos. I never found them offensive: yes, immature and not in good taste and sometimes weird. But this is the internet, the last free frontier. It’s unfortunate that many ignorant people have access to Twitter, Youtube, etc. But then again, I can only hope said sites can open their minds. Simon and Martina, you aren’t perfect but that’s what I love about you: you are realistic, unafraid, critical, educated. Please keep doing what you are doing to help those spewing hate grow into engaging adults.

    For all those Kpop fans complaining about the lack of KMM’s, please realize that EYK started out as a vlog for parents to know their children were ok in a far away country and then as a vlog for other nervous young adults to learn about the country they were about to embark to. It was never a Kpop blog. And for the rest of the trolls, it doesn’t matter if Simon and Martina aren’t rabid Kpop fans or Kpop idols: they can go on a show and have fun, interest conversations with whoever they want. Did you ever take a moment to think that Eric and Kevin probably wanted them to guest on the show? And for Ela, at Change.org: slow clap for your 756 supporters. As an international fan, I will have to ask that you change your request from “international kpop fans would like our voices to be heard” to “I and a few other international Kpop fans would like our voices to be heard” – you don’t represent even a large minority of the international Kpop community, so please don’t speak for “us”.

    Sincerely, E.K.

    4 years ago
    • I second this comment.

      Also, if the person is so desperate to make a petition on Change.org, make a petition for stuff that actually matters.

      4 years ago
  14. I was squealing with delight when I heard you guys were going on ASC! I love that show and considering that you guys, Kevin and Eric have had a past together, I knew this episode was going to be a blast. Great way to start 2015.

    As for your blog itself, I became a nasty just last year and I’ve watched some of your older videos, and maybe it’s me but I don’t find any of it all that offensive? What really saddens is to see how people are reduced to emotional fits and statements that really should be better left unsaid. And call me oblivious, but I don’t see these “mistakes” that you are claiming. At the end of the day, it’s your opinion and yes it’s subject to public reaction, however I think people really ought to back off and spend all that hated energy in knitting…or whatever makes them happy.

    While this is an opportunity to develop your craft in creating videos, I hope that these criticisms don’t completely get to it, to the point where when you talk, everything just seems watered down and isn’t completely truthful. Netizens will always be netizens, will have nothing proud of about their lives living behind a keyboard, while you guys, are truly an inspiration for all the work you’ve done in the past 7 years. Sure, there have been things said I don’t necessarily agree with, but you live in your truth and convictions.

    Here’s to a bright 2015! :)

    4 years ago
  15. I have been very upset seeing how bad some people have talked about or directly to you. Not just now, but also earlier. I have always supported you guys 100%, and I think one of the reasons I have been able to do that is because you are always willing to reflect and be honest. I am currently studying to be a drama teacher, and one of my subjects is pedagogy. The more I learn from that study I realize how important communication and patience is. In danger of just repeating your words now, but all feelings and reactions should be respected and listened to – IF YOU SAY IT IN A PROPER WAY. I don’t mean word proper, but please make sure your reactions are justified. Humor is amazing, but also the easiest thing to attack.

    Keep making sure to protect yourself from hate and unfair anger from others – and keep growing and invite people to express themselves so we can all understand each other better. In my eyes your intentions have always been good, and that is the point we need to focus on. I really respect the whole EYK crew, and I know I do so for a damn good reason.

    4 years ago
  16. PS….WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BEAUTIFUL, GORGEOUS FACE ON MY PROFILE!!? <3

    4 years ago
  17. Chin up! All of us grow and learn from our mistakes. There is no one in the WORLD who has not done something and realised how bad it may be perceived to some others. Honestly, without some people notifying me more about certain subjects, I would be so vague about a lot of things! I think a lot of us want to hit the 2011 side of ourselves to be honest (or even a year beforehand!) Everyone grows from mistakes and forgiveness is the best medicine to help one grow too :) Keep up your hard work!

    4 years ago
  18. All my love and support to the both of you and all of the EYK crew!
    You are wonderful people who try really hard for their fans and I have admired you since I first got introduced to EYK – it’s thanks to you both that I want to move to Korea to teach English!! Martina’s style has also influenced me and now I love dressing super cute like her!
    You do not deserve all the hate and abuse you are getting, you have every right to block these horrible people from your lives – death threats are horrendous things to send people!!! Regardless the reason.
    I think it’s unfair for people to get angry at you for old mistakes you may have made- we have all made them, I have my fair share of things I wish I had never done or said but as long as you grow and learn from them and don’t repeat them, then people should understand that and accept any apologises made.
    Please enjoy your time off and get plenty of rest and relaxation that you can! Happy 2015 and I can’t wait for more EYK videos!! <3

    4 years ago
  19. This is an awesome post! I was so frustrated about what happened earlier this week. I had some good conversations with people, but mostly they were frustrating, and I can see why sometimes you get angry! It’s really hard to converse politely and logically with someone whose main tatic is to insult how you look or discount your points because you aren’t of the “right” racial background.

    I am glad that by posting this, you will prove to all the thoughtful people out there who might have been on the fence, that you are exactly who I knew you to be: caring, thoughtful people, who truly love what they do and have a passion and want to make the world a better place. And to think, I got hooked on your videos because of Spudgy. You two are so much more than cute dog videos, and I love you for it. Though, let’s be honest…the cute dog videos are a HUGE bonus

    4 years ago
  20. I missed out on ASC because I had to work, but as soon as I got home this morning I watched first thing. I’m sorry y’all have so many trolls to deal with. I would love it if you guys could shoot a video of y’all and Kevin & Eric just chilling hanging out. I love U-KISS, Eric, and Kevin and I love watching them on TV shows, music shows, and what not but I love seeing my idols just chilling being themselves and relaxing having downtime with friends and family. Kevin, Eric, & U-KISS members are so humble, fun, sweet, funny, and just amazing guys that I always wonder what do they do for fun. My biggest dream is to be able to come to Korea and meet them and not just be a fan but friends with them and you guys as well. I would so love to just relax with everyone and not have any worries just focus on making new awesome friends and memories with everyone. I love y’all so very much, thank you for all your hard work and dedication to what y’all do. Kevin and U-KISS y’all are my bias group and I always look forward to watching y’all on TV and watching MVs and I hope y’all will do another America tour and maybe this time y’all could meet your kissmes in Texas!!! I love you EYK CREW!!!

    4 years ago
  21. Hey guys,
    OK let’s be real…most of the hate is from KMM. I haven’t always agreed with your views or how you chose the music video you chose but not once did I find you offensive…ever. It’s a shame that people take you out of context, and take creative liberities to elaborate and tell tall tales about you. And the worst part…the people that say they hate you but are always on top of everything you do just to validate their hate. And the recent twitter hate? Ludicrous.

    4 years ago
    • You know, I’ve never really seen anyone fuming over the fact that we didn’t like a sandwich. We can say “damn! The cheese on this toast is gross!” and no one bats an eye. Kpop, though, has much more adverse reactions.

      4 years ago
      • That’s because people who like (*cough*areobsessedwith*cough*) Kpop are scary. :( I used to love Kpop, so I joined communities full of people who liked the same groups that I do. Suddenly, I discovered that there are a million rules you have to follow to like them. If I thought that one of the singers didn’t sound very good in the song, like it didn’t match the singer’s vocal style, I was a hater. If I didn’t like the music that a group made, I was a hater. If I didn’t just scream “oh my gosh, I love this song, this is the bestest song they ever made!” over every comeback, I was a “bad fan”. These groups change their sound every few months! Of course I’m not going to like all of them! :(

        I spent too much time around them, and now I don’t like most kpop groups anymore. “Fans” really ruin music and I’m very sad if they’ve ruined things for you too. I can’t explain their behavior, because it’s just a completely foreign concept. Critical thinking seems to be a banned activity among those “fans”, and sarcasm is definitely lost on them. :/

        But do you want to know the funny thing? Despite what these “fans” think, your videos have actually helped me hold onto at least a few of the groups that I like to follow! I enjoy laughing at silliness, and you guys and the people who positively follow you give me hope that not all Kpop “fans” are malicious psychopaths. (If anyone reading this takes offense, remember that you should only be offended if you are a malicious psychopath. If you are not one, then you are one of the sane fans.)

        4 years ago
        • OMG I fully agree with you. For that reason I am involved in no KPOP fan communities online. The only fan community I have is with the handful of friends that I have found in person in real life.

          In fact for me Simon and Martinas light hearted approach to music videos just enriched my Kpop viewing and listening and a lot of songs would be difficult to like without having seen their approach to the song!

          They also created some memes in their KMM that me and my friends pull out every now and again because they were very funny and memorable

          4 years ago
        • I agree… It’s crazy, some of these fans are insane. When I read articles about sasaeng fans, I literally lose all faith in humanity… People completely lose their minds.
          I, however, have been pretty lucky in terms of finding people who love the same groups as me and them being normal, sane people. I do like many other groups too, but I am mainly an EXO fan, and on instagram and facebook I have found tons of people who are super nice and kind, and we talk about EXO together and share our favorite moments :) I guess I;m trying to say that just because you had bad experience with fans before, you shouldn’t give up on the groups. Maybe u had bad luck then, but you are bound to come across some super nice and sweet people too, who will share your love of the group :)

          4 years ago
  22. How come you have blocked my friends who HAVE tried to engage you in intelligent discourse then? Some of these people didn’t even directly mention your account, but brought up some things that you two have done over the years and they were blocked by your account. Others, didn’t curse, didn’t send you death threats, just tried to engage in an intelligent conversation and were blocked. Mind explaining that? Because that completely goes against what you were just talking about in this blog post and makes you pretty big hypocrites.

    4 years ago
    • Could you give me an example of who we blocked that was civil? I’m sorry. The time that we were blocking people on Twitter, it was quite a torrent of anger and insults and threats (really, it was overwhelming). And we might have blocked a wrong account. It has happened before, in which we try to block one person, but then block another by accident, someone who has been following us for a long time.

      If you’d like, we can unblock them, sure! Though, I’m getting the feeling that maybe – just maybe – you or your friends wouldn’t be interested in that. No?

      Also, please try to talk without name calling here. Is that possible?

      4 years ago
      • I just asked my twitter in general why they were blocked by you guys and the main response was “I was just talking honestly about them, no swearing or threats or anything”
        I can’t really share their usernames here because I want to share this without name calling D:
        I’ve also had some of your supporters coming to me and calling me “retarded for having an unworthy unintelligent opinion” :/ I found you guys back in 2009 (Simon’s English lesson video to be exact) and have watched a lot of your stuff so I wouldn’t call my opinion unworthy nor unintelligent.
        I have to say, I have disagreed with some stuff you guys have said but I have NEVER wished death upon you both or your pets or Leigh or SooZee. I think some people take things way too far… on both sides. I really wish people wouldn’t go around sending death threats and calling each other retarded. :c Here is to peace!

        4 years ago
        • Maybe that is what happened, but to be honest (not mean, but honest) most people will say, “I didn’t do anything wrong! I was unjustly punished for just being a good person.” when they’ve done something wrong. I used to help moderate some Minecraft servers and the people who would get muted for cussing and threatening people would often make ban appeals saying almost word for word what your twitter people said.

          Now, I have no way of knowing whether your twitter people are telling the truth, but you don’t either, unless they have some proof to offer.

          As far as their supporters bad-mouthing you specifically, yes, I can definitely believe that. Sometimes when you like something a lot, you can carry it too far. And often, when any of us have something slightly negative to say, we don’t think carefully about how we phrase it. And, even if we do, sometimes someone gets offended anyway. I’m sorry for the harassment that you’ve received. Maybe peace is something we can all find someday. :)

          4 years ago
  23. Please don’t ever stop being who you are. You are incredibly loved by so many people. You have created a family here. I sisters in the south, brothers across the pond and cousins in Asia I hope to meet someday. We love you.

    4 years ago
  24. JISIMAKER is the best ever!!!! Jimin looked a bit confused about it though. Did you have to explain the reference to her after?? Eric laughed so hard his stomach hurt! You guys must laugh a lot when you’re all together! I can just imagine.

    4 years ago
    • Eric, Kevin, and the two of us all went out for dinner after the show. We definitely had a great laugh. They’re good people, and we have a great time when we’re with them :D

      4 years ago
  25. Well said! It was hard for me to read all those malicious comments on your twitter. It’s great to see that you guys have taken it in your stride, and sets a wonderful example of it all. It’s been rewarding for me as a viewer to watch your team improve over the years, and I look forward to the great content you’ll produce this year!

    4 years ago
  26. Cheers guys! I was on a bus for an hour and a half when all those tweets started coming on Saturday, and it was the strangest thing to see. I’m glad you got the opportunity to write this out and share your POV. I noticed some of the hate tweets were sheer trolls, trying to get blocked or cause a ruckus. I’ve always liked the way you put genuine thought into your videos, particularly the TL;DR ones, and you’ve definitely grown since I started watching (though I don’t remember a time I ever felt offended by anything you’ve said…)

    Anyhow, I’m so happy you were on ASC (actually, right before you guys tweeted about it, I was wondering if you guise would ever make an appearance), and it’d be so fun to see you both on again for more After Shows or specials! I particularly appreciated the clever acronyms that it seemed no one picked up on at first…

    4 years ago
  27. I really want to compliment you guys for doing this. This weekend drive me crazy! I met you guys in Köln and i was just surprised at the accusations you were recieving!
    Being a ‘older’ fan (21) I’ve watch your videos from the beginning of your channel and every year I see things getting better and more professional.

    I’m excited to see what’s in store for 2015 and please, -please- take care of yourselves guise. You have a who group of fans behind you.

    4 years ago
    • It’s soooooo hard to be older in this kind of world. It drives me crazy all the time! I feel like most of the “hate” is sent by people too young to understand that you need to be able to laugh even at the things you love the most, even at yourself… I’m almost 30, and everytime, I’m getting discourage and stop myself at trying to communicate with other fans because I feel like no one is really trying to actually communicate…

      4 years ago
    • I would love to add a picture to my avatar, but I have no idea how xD Can someone help me?

      4 years ago
      • I was having the same issue. I can not find anywhere to upload my Pic. It might be some issue related with the HTML code of the site similar to what happened to the Kpop chart that had to be removed until it is fixed.

        4 years ago
  28. I’ve been watching you guys for about 6+ years. And, in 6 years, I’ve seen you grow as a channel, as a couple, and as a company. You’ve consistently taken on tougher topics over the years in your TL;DRs and have always been clear that you don’t have all of the answers. While none of us will ever get 100% right, it shows your character and values to never shy away from addressing the criticism. I wish you nothing but good things and a very bright future for EYK!

    P.S….Thanks Martina…I had never seen Sailor Moon. I now have a new favorite!

    4 years ago
  29. I just sent you guys an email about this topic and now I read this hahaha <3 n – n

    4 years ago
  30. Nicely put. I wish you, Soozee, Leigh, Rose and everybody else working at EYK a lot of success in 2015!

    4 years ago
  31. Bre

    What did you guys ever say to come off as racist? I’ve been with u guys since 2011, and u guys haven’t changed, except u got better with your work. The only thing that’s changed is the ppl who subbed to u, and started being rude, mean, with no constructive criticism. Keep doing what ya’ll do.

    4 years ago
  32. Been a nasty ever since 2011 up till today when i stumbled upon one of your KMMs on tumblr and thought to myself “hey, they’re pretty funny ” so I followed you guys on your updates and watched your Livechats live when I have the time and I enjoyed all of your videos. Your FAPFAP make me hungry and your WANK just make me want to go adventuring :D. Thanks for all the videos you have made EYK .Well the internet are full of judgemental and ignorant people who tend to look on the outside but not the inside so heck care to them:) Get some rest and We’ll see you soon :)

    4 years ago
  33. I cried reading this. It’s probably the most beautiful and intelligent response to online hate that I’ve ever seen.

    I really respect the way that you’ve addressed this and I strongly believe that this is the bravest thing I’ve seen on the internet.

    Love you and respect you more than ever!
    In the meantime, when’s the debut of JiSiMaKeEr gonna be? :)

    4 years ago
  34. Nicely said. I’ve watched you guys for quite a while. I’ve never seen you say anything intentionally mean.

    4 years ago
  35. Thank you for making an apology. I can’t deny that you’ve made mistakes before, but it was a wise decision to set things straight. People are going to be so mad because you pointed out “reverse racism” though.

    lol

    4 years ago
    • Really? We didn’t say that ALL people that are angry hate white people, right? People have raised valid points, for sure. There are some really civil people that we’ve spoken with. But there are some that we’ve read that, whoa, have some deep, deep anger towards white people. No?

      4 years ago
      • Incorrect. Simon and Martina. You say you were reflecting on your old selves, you only see bad things. However, I found those old videos 100 times better than nowadays. It was more genuine, you guys ENJOYED putting EFFORTS into videos to gain fans. Nowadays, after the kickstarter, not sure if fame got into your head, but you stopped posting KMM, you stopped posting as much videos. All youve done is travel whenever you can or invest into other businesses. You forgot WHY fans GAVE you that money. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE rewatch the video where you were begging for money. All those promises about new series, new videos, drama reviews, faster loading time after hiring people. Come on. Where are they ? We passed the kickstarter goal right ? I sincerely hope you didnt just use that money to open up new business ventures. Your fans are tired of waiting, tired of getting betrayed. You even stopped posting your most popular segment KMM. You guys were TEACHERS, yet you became so immoral to use your fans money. Next time just ask other popular youtubers how they generate revenue.

        TL;DR THE REASON WHY MOST FANS LEFT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE RACIST OR HATE YOUR JOKES. ITS BECAUSE YOU USED YOUR YOUNG FANS FOR MONEY THEN NEVER FOLLOWED ON WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE WITH IT.

        4 years ago
        • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmIoLR4s_Mo

          I’d suggest that you rewatch the video that you’re suggesting they rewatch. Just in case you don’t feel like rewatching it, I’ll tell you what they said (I typed it as I watched it. I actually was willing to believe you at first, because I started watching EYK *after* they made that video, so I had to dig back to find it)

          Here is where they talk about what will happen if they get the money-

          “We’ll have somewhere to film and store our video equipment.” Ta da! This one came true. They got the studio. Let’s see what else they said.

          “We’ll have somewhere to conduct interviews with kpop idols and Korean artists.” Cool, this one happened too. They’ve interviewed various kpop people and had some indie people on as well.

          “And we’ll have somewhere to meet you guys for possible meet-ups in Korea.” Remember the little store they put up and how they had a Halloween party and how they met fans at their studio and we saw videos of that? Sounds like this one happened.

          “We might even be able to hire a full time video editor to help us so we don’t have to work 70 hours a week anymore.” Suuuuuuuuu Zeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Looks like this one came true. Though, they still seem to work really long hours.

          “And, with an editor, we can finally start putting up those video segments that we always wanted to do, but never had the chance to.” Okay, so this is the one you’re upset about, huh? Let’s delve further into what they said.

          “You want to see new EYK segments, don’t you? I have so many ideas- drama segments, and interviewing Korean people.” Okay, they didn’t get a drama segment, though I feel like KMM might be replaced by that, but that’s just an idea. And, the “interviewing Korean people” idea- I’d like you to check out the booth they set up in their cafe so that regular Korean people can say what they want. They did follow through with that.

          As far as different segments go, they did make some changes. They added Discussing Interesting Contemporary Korean Slang. Yeah, other segments died away and yes they did spend more time travelling, but from what I can tell, they spent that time thanking the fans who supported them, and those fans seemed really glad about that.

          There are times I wish they had stayed home and made more videos, but then I realize how selfish I’m being. Even if I had given them money for the fundraiser, I have no right to tell them how to live their life and right now they are living their life on camera for everyone to enjoy.

          They said the fundraiser was to get a studio. They got the studio. And they kept making videos this past year, despite being busy with other things as well. There’s nothing immoral about asking for money to rent a building space and then using the money to rent a building space. Just because you’re unhappy doesn’t mean that you can pretend to justify your feelings by calling them names with no merit.

          tl;dr It’s a bummer that you’re sad, but you shouldn’t pretend that they owe you anything.

          4 years ago
      • Yeah I agree with you, I just mean that if someone says “I don’t want any white people on my blog” on tumblr and someone says “Isn’t that kind of racist” all hell will break lose with people going “omg white tears everywhere”. It’s kind of stupid.

        4 years ago
        • I didn’t see an edit button so I have to add this in a different post. Sorry!

          I have learned many things from Tumblr. About how parts of the world work. I have become more aware of social issues. This is true.

          But that doesn’t make up for the mental strain and toll it took on me once it became such an awful place. It doesn’t measure even slightly up to what I’ve seen these deranged lunatics do to other people. Even the people they’re supposedly “protecting”. The groupthinking and forced conformity is comparable to…well, you can probably guess. I’m gonna take a risk and say it anyway: North Korea. The way Tumblr is now is seriously frighteningly similar to North Korea. You might think I’m overreacting but I have seen so many posts going something like “white straight boys r dumb” and getting half a million likes and reblogs.

          I’ve had friends (3) commit suicide for daring to speak against what the majority thinks. 3 friends killed themselves over this. 3 friends took their own lives because they were SILENCED. They were threatened and were doxxed, their information spread around, they were threatened with rape…All of these horrible things. They were silenced and coerced into compliance. I see that happening with a lot of people. They’re afraid to speak out to the hatred and the fetishism.

          It’s terrifying, actually. I don’t post my selfies anymore because of this. I’ve turned my ask and submit box off and had to take ridiculous measures just to feel safe. The only reason I stay on Tumblr is because that’s where my friends are and there’s still happiness to be found. It’s rare, but thankfully I’ve found it. I follow mostly picture and KPOP blogs, as well as Attack on Titan blogs that I know are safe.

          Sorry for the vulgarity, but fuck Tumblr. Fuck *almost* everyone who uses it.

          4 years ago
  36. I really hope you guys rest up, and I also hope Martina is doing better these days! You guise were great on After School Club, my favourite episode to date to be honest! My heart really goes out to you two, I miss you guise loads but am still thankful you guys are taking a well deserved hiatus! Screw the hate, there are plenty of nasties who love eyk ! HURRAH FOR HAPPINESS BOOYA!!!!!!

    4 years ago
    • La la la la la la la la la la *happiness* i believe this is the song you are referencing…

      4 years ago
  37. Dear Simon and Martina,

    I love you all very much, and seeing the Twitter (and don’t get me started on Tumblr) rage that’s happening, I feel slightly sick that people are so quick to judge you the way they do. It must be hard. I would not have been able to take it, honestly. Thank you for enduring though, and carrying on with posting your content.

    Can I make a request for you? As you ultra-nasty? Can I ask that you put all of what you said in this post in a video? The angry fans probably don’t read your blog posts and only watch your videos, and I really want them to see this. A lot of them think that you don’t own up to your mistakes and never apologize, and so I think it would be very helpful to actually have all of this in a video… Just say everything sincerely and don’t give the SJW or whatever anything to use against you. Please do this; I really thing the heat against you will lessen if you do.

    Thank you for everything you’ve done and thank you you for persevering! I will always be your Nasty <3

    4 years ago
    • I agree 100%. I’ve asked a few of them to read the post but all I’m getting is I will later and stuff like that :/

      4 years ago
  38. Hope to see JISIMAKER debut one day HAHAHAHA!
    I really love how you deal with the haters so maturely. I was watching ASC and the comments just got so out of hand that it was kinda disturbing =o=
    @Martina That dress looked beautiful btw! Anyways hope to see more EYK this year!!

    4 years ago
  39. You guys really are the one of the most mature, level-headed people here in the internet that makes the internet somewhat a better place. Thank you that you’ve always been open-minded to everything and that you always try to become better bloggers! Nasties are always here for you (simonandmartina), the pets, and the entire crew!

    4 years ago
  40. ^^ Be yourself and keep it up ~ love you all!

    4 years ago