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K Crunch Cocktail: Me Don’t DJ DOC Right Now

March 1, 2012

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K Crunch Coconut Cocktail

FYI: Coconuts are not nuts

Today’s KCrunch Cocktail can be best described with the following photo of a delicious coconut cocktail. Despite Simon and the scientific community’s opinion, I believe my nutty + coconut comparison makes sense and anyone who dares disagree will feel the wrath of SPUDGY!!! GO MY DIREWOLF! GO!!! MAUL! MAUL AND LICK!!! Wait…why are you licking? You should be mauling and biting, sending ripples of fear into their fragile hearts…and now you’re getting tummy touches. At least sneeze on them the way you sneeze on me in the morning! You can at least do that for me can’t you? Spudgy! Spudgy?! Come on! SON OF A—

1) Psy: “Right Now”

So we’re starting off today with PSY: one of our all time favourite entertainers. I really want to emphasize the entertainment aspect of PSY because he has so much stage presence. And the engery! WHOAAAAAAAAAA WHERE DOES HE GET IT ALL FROM!!! We mentioned before that we saw him live at the YG family concert, and when he came on stage he got everyone up and dancing with him. If he was in Harry Potter he would be the first male Veela. Any HP fans out there? OOOOOooh that reminds me, I’m reading a new magical detective book series right now by Ben Aaronovitch. I finished his first book “Rivers of London” and now I’m onto “Moon Over Soho” and it’s a cool twist on the world of magic. FOCUS MARTINA FOCUS! Sorry, PSY. The video for “Right Now” is also an awesome video as I think it shows something we would all love to do when bored or stuck in traffic…break out into synchronized dance with hot backup dancers (keep your eyes peeled for the distracting blonde guy). If you haven’t heard or seen this video you are REALLY missing out.

2) 4 Minute: “I My Me Mine”

Next up is Simon’s former favourite girl group, 4Minute. Their first few songs, including “Muzik”, “Hot Issue” and “I My Me Mine” were totally awesome, and we often ran around the house dancing and singing, but after that they didn’t release any songs that we found catchy. Not like their other songs at least. “I My Me Mine” is such an awesome grimy robotic sounding song that keeps our attention non-stop. It even changes sounds several times going from a quick grimy loud beat, to a softer sound, then loud beat, back to a quick powerful grimy sound with shouting vocals. Not to mention how catchy the click click click click part is but good googely goo the English pronunciation is the worst we’ve ever heard.

WARNING! INCOMING RANT ABOUT BAD ENGLISH IN KOREA!!! Skip it if you don’t have time!!!

Now some people have criticized us for rating the English in kpop songs, and have suggested that it hurts the singers’ feelings, and it’s rude, and so on. But when we hear things like that, we think that people are really looking down on Korea. But that’s not the case. What we are looking down upon are these huge multi-million dollar kpop companies who include English for the sake of…what?

South Korea is a country where people predominantly speak Korean, so who is the English in a song or on a billboard? Is it for the tourists? Well it can’t be, because the English is often so nonsensical that English speakers can’t understand it. Maybe they have a lack of Korean English speakers so they’re just trying their best to translate? Well that’s not true either, because there are TONS and I mean TONS of fantastic Korean English speakers that are never consulted for their English. And why is it that kpop groups that have fluent English speakers born and raised in English speaking countries are forced to speak garbled English even though they KNOW it’s wrong?

We believe that there are two reasons. The first is that English is seen as trendy, and Korea wasn’t originally making music for the rest of the world to listen to. The Hallyu wave is a new trend but before that English sounded cool and it didn’t matter if it was correct or not because no one really cared. Just like non-Asian speakers that don’t research their Chinese or Japanese tattoo and end up with LAZY instead of STRENGTH.

The second reason has to do with the Confucius ideals engraved in the Korean workforce. Majority of fluent English speaking Koreans are a part of the younger generation and the older CEOs of many companies don’t speak English as well as their younger employees. The problem arises in that a younger employee cannot correct an older, more powerful CEO without risk of being disrespectful to their elders. So, if the CEO of a huge well known Korean company approves the most terrible English on a huge billboard, the younger employees are helpless to the decision. Of course not all members of Korean society are like this, but we and our friends witnessed small instances of this Younger/Elder stance when we were teaching, as many of our English speaking Korean co-teachers wouldn’t speak English in front of the non-English speaking Principal so as to not insult him. Or worst, they wouldn’t consult us when putting up a huge English banner on the side of the school with terrible English.

The point we’re trying to make, is that someone handed these lyrics to a kpop group, and our springboard for this discussion today is 4minute. Even though the members of 4minute are clearly not strong English speakers, they were forced to sing English lyrics without the guidance or help from the many English speakers in Korea. Our concern is that with the rising popularity of Korean music, those who love Korea won’t care about the terrible English, but the new listeners will be unable to focus on the music itself and only mock the English and put that song/group into the stereotype of Bad English Speaking Asians. Considering the amount of money and resources these huge companies have, we think they should be more considerate about what they are making their artists do.

And finally, we would never meet someone on the street in Korea and mock or laugh at their mispronunciation of an English word. Learning to speak another language is super difficult, especially training your tongue to move in a new way for a foreign sound. We specifically point our English rating towards those companies that are using English irresponsibly for the sake of being trendy, but are not thinking about the people who have to be the face of it.

RANT OVER. I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!

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3) DJ DOC: “나이런사람이야”

Well that was an unexpected rant that just poured out of my fingertips. To the DJ DOCmobile! NANANANANANAAA! DJ DOC are actually three guys and they are HI-larious. They have tons of songs out since they’ve been around since the 1990’s. I heard them a lot when my students would make a slideshow or a funny movie, it seems DJ DOC always ended up in the background as music. Probably because it works nicely with a timeline. The name of this song is my personal translation so I’m not sure if it’s right (help me) but I think it’s something like This Is a Music Video or His Old School Music Video or something….help me!!!!! The video is hilarious and the song is deeply catchy. NAAAAAAAA EEEERAN SARAM EEE EYAAAAAAA!!!!!! Also, can someone tell me if that’s UV making a guest appearance?

4) Super Junior: “Don’t Don”

Super Junior Old Picture

Super Junior Old Picture

Our last video is a video request for an old school Super Junior song “Don’t Don” which was before our kpop time. We left this video feeling a little traumatized. I guess it’s the same thing when people watch an old school Vanilla Ice video…you kind of had to be there to understand it. So besides the style of clothing and hair being way wayyyyyyyy different then what we’re used to, the song wasn’t terrible, but we’re not really into the rock guitar + pop vocals combo. But it seems Japan really really loves this combo and hasn’t outgrown it. The whole kind of shaggy mullet hairdo is also still popular in the Japanese jpop and jrock world, but even though I love Japan, I just can’t like that hairstyle.

I’m really happy Korea tends to flow with new trends and try to re-invent their kpop artists. Speaking of re-invented, we really like the current Super Junior look and sound, much more then their old stuff, but I guess the die hard fans who were there from the start will like everything. Die hard fans, we need to know: who are all these other guys? When did the group change members? And why does it look like they haven’t aged…are they vampires!!!!!??? OMG!

That’s it for now! If you’ve got any thoughts about the English in Kpop issue, let us know in the comments. Or, if you’d like us to talk about a song in one of our playlists, send us a video response via YouTube! Woot!

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  1. HAHAHA. Oh god, the ones you pointed out were from left to right Kibum (who has actually left) and Kangin (who’s in the army but returning soon, he’s in Sorry Sorry actually!). Then Yesung and Donghae who are still around you know!! xD I think Yesung is pretty easy to find in the new videos … his hair is just a bit shorter. :/

    AND OMG THE VIOLIN SOLO WAS THE BEST. I liked it. ;o; I felt like it fit with the song. Henry (from SuJu M) did an epic job on the violin.

    And as for the mullets, I don’t mind, some of their hair is okay. Have you guys seen old DBSK? There’s some worse stuff out there!!

    And lastly, totally agree to that rant, so so true.

    7 years ago
  2. umm…guys? just a minor detail but you circled Donghae’s face…and he’s still in (guy on the right hand corner), the guy you didn’t circle that has terminated his contract is Hankyung, who’s the blonde in the second row :P

    Just a heads up teehee

    Oh and totally agreed with your English rant, and thank you for pointing out that it is not the artists’ fault so much as the big companies who have not been paying as much attention as they should have 

    7 years ago
  3. Haha, Simon! You’r facial expression! It’s the same one I had when I saw this video for the first time. Someone recommended Super Junior to me and well… after seeing this, It took me a while to actually take them seriously. I do like them now but it took some getting used to :P

    7 years ago
  4. omg in the beggining of DJ Doc’s song I’ve heard so many “bunda”s LOL (bunda = not so nice way to say butt in Portuguese xD)

    7 years ago
  5. Totally agree with the English rant.  One of the things I’ve noticed in the kpop fandoms is this tendency of fans to say that their favorite group shouldn’t be criticized because they’re doing their best.  Well, these companies really want these groups to go international, particularly to super consumer North America.  That may not have been the case before, but it is now, and that means doing their “best” includes making the minor effort necessary to make sure they are speaking correctly to an audience they’re trying to sell to.   Doing their best will require the higher ups to step away from their ego a bit, and leave all decisions regarding English in music, advertising, etc. to be approved by someone who speaks the language FLUENTLY.
    This is why I think EYK is valuable.  They are holding these companies accountable for what they put out there, and let them know people are listening.

    7 years ago
  6. the dj doc song is called I’m this kind of person..saw the name at allkpop..love the song..and it’s strange to know that you guys cant distinguish suju members :d

    7 years ago
  7. OH MY GOD.
    SUJU DON’T DON HIP TRUSTS AND HENRY’S VIOLIN SOLO. FOR THE WIN.
    F**K YEA.
    i love you guys. seriously.

    7 years ago
  8. I FOUND THE SUPER DISTRACTING HOT BLONDE BACKUP DANCER IN PSY’S VIDEO! man ur right…he IS distracting….

    7 years ago
  9. oh my gosh…i’ve been a hardcore ELF for a WHILE, and the whole missing-members thing is SUPER complicated. hangeng (chinese member): terminated his contract w/ SM entertainment, after all that slave contract controversy, and he’s solo in china now. kangin: in the military, comes back in april. kibum: still in suju, not active rite now cuz he’s focusing on his acting career. heechul: in the army. the guy playing the violin, Henry: only promotes w/ SJM. that means theyre only promoting suju w/ 9 members right now. oh and by the way, in that old picture of suju u have…the 2 guys on the right? they’re still active, u prob just made a mistake in recognizing them ^-^

    7 years ago
  10. well first of all 
    two of the people in there (the two on the right) are still currently in superjunior
    kim kibum is still part of superjunior but he left before sorry sorry to focus on his acting – which is the shame cause he was my favorite, he had such a funny personality, well i dont know him personally but what i can see from the variety shows he was in.
    kangin went to the military.

    7 years ago
  11. ksdfek thanx to you guys I started to love DJ DOC – 나이런사람이야! <3. Thanx ^^ [ps it was only i liked in  that playlist… ok i'm lieing, I liked SuJu too but i knowed that song (I like jrock)]

    7 years ago
  12. Why did you kill off two of the active members but left Hangeng who is no longer with SM.

    7 years ago
  13. I actually like the violin….but I do have to agree about their hair….have you guys seen old DBSK mvs? oh god the hair xD Um in the pic, on the left side are Kimbum (who unofficially left the group to focus on acting) and Kangin (who is coming out of the army this year sometime) and the two on the right are Yesung and Donghae and they are very much in Suju…they’re also in Mr. Simple, you just don’t remember them ^^” 

    Anyway, I love PSY and DJ DOC! I’m so glad you guys did them cause i don’t think most people into kpop know them….while you’re at it can you do some Epik High? That would be awesomesauce! <3 you guys!

    7 years ago
  14. Haha I’m so glad you guys did suju!! And martina, lol they weren’t killed off its just over the years suju’s members has changed because of people leaving (Kibum and Hangeng) and people enlisting in the army (Kangin and Heechul).  Everyone else just looks really different!!  And BTW the guy playing the violin is Henry from Super Junior M! ~keke fun fact

    7 years ago
  15. I don’t know whether anyone has answered this yet, but I think the musictitle for DJ Doc’s song is translated as “I’m this kind of a person”

    7 years ago
  16. Although I like SuJu’s newer look, I prefer the old sound. Less autotune on voices that don’t need it is always a good thing… 

    7 years ago
  17. Lol Martina no they didnt kill them!

    Circled Suju member from left to right: Kibum hes been acting he was in deep rooted tree (good drama btw)

    Kangin hes in the military he will be dischared on april of this year yay!

    Yesung the voice of SJ lol he looks alittle different cause of that hair…smh…he was on immortal song 2 you should check out his cover of Boohwal-Sarang halsurok it was amazing!

    Donghae hes the fishy prince :) also the hair is what makes him look different, and he seems to have grown more he looks more mature now. He and Eunhyuk did the song Oppa Oppa im pretty sure youve heard it.

    Well hope it helps :)

    7 years ago
  18. Lovin’ the DJ DOC song. When I first saw that Super Junior video, I was thinking, “No. That’s not them. Really?” I was honestly scared they were trying to envision Final Fantasy characters with that hair. 

    7 years ago
  19. Don’t Don was actually one of the first SuJu (and Kpop) songs I was introduced to, and still remains to be one of my favorite songs of theirs! And as for the violin, I love it (then again I’m a violinist), because I was introduced to Henry’s amazing playing skills (though his feature is no where as complex as other things I’ve heard him play). Also I really like the choreography of Don’t Don (not referring to the thrusting), and that they are in places other than oddly lit rooms! I even like their clothes here! The only thing I don’t care much for are their hairstyles, but looking at other Kpop videos released around that time, that kind of hair was normal.

    7 years ago
  20. that DJ DOC song! i heard so many times on shows!! but i’ve never known what is was!! and the kick part in that song was what Onew did on Yahaensung!!!
    and i’ve seen a few SuJu old songs and they left me like…….O_O…………i DEFINITELY like the Super Junior now!!! and as much as i love Heechul but his hair in some of them…………well truthfully they all had terrible hair!!! but once he even looked he could be in a Visual Kei group!!

    7 years ago
  21. You guys should review Shinhwa, G.O.D, and H.O.T!!!

    7 years ago
  22. This is so AWESOME! I was just thinking the other day that it would be awesome if you guise reviewed the older Super Junior songs especially Don’t Don and U which were both before your “Kpop  Time”.  Y’all are psychics (or the fan that requested it is).

    I agree.  The violin solo is really smooth.  The guy playing the violin is Henry (Canadian/Chinese) who is a member of Super Junior M.  (Personally, I believe him and Zhou Mi should be added to the main group)

    Also, their hair is a little ridiculous, but I love the rock beat and the song.  It’s so powerful…. and a nice break from the Pop/Hip Hoppy stuff (which i enjoy immensely as well) that they usually sing.   

    7 years ago
  23. ahhhhhhhhhhh! thank you soooooooo much Spzimefrkl xxxxxxxxxx <3 xxxxxxxxx :'D love it! <3
    (and ofc Simon and Martina for using it)

    7 years ago
  24. Nice rant on the bad English… couldn’t agree more!

    7 years ago
  25.  Don’t Don is one of my favorites, I too like a lot of their old music but also the new as well.  Gotta say, Siwon looks awful “good” in that video :)

    7 years ago
  26.  Love seeing SJ on here <3 but LOL if you thought Don't Don was traumatizing, watch Twins. Eventually that song and MV grew on me, but when I first saw it I didn't know what to think. Don't Don was much easier to swallow than that. I love all of SJ's old stuff though. As for Don't Don, I just have to say that Henry's violin solo is epic and amazing. And as for the members, if you include Henry, there are 14 in this video, and again including Henry and Zhou Mi they're now down to… 11 I think? Heechul and Kangin are in the army, Hangeng sued and left, and Kibum disappeared somewhere to supposedly work on his acting career. Two of the ones you circled, Yesung and Donghae, are very much still with the group… Yesung is my favorite XD Also, I have to mention, there are a few really amazing live versions of Don't Don that are worth checking out (the one from SS2 and the recent one they've done for SS3/SM Town/possibly SS4 I don't know).

    7 years ago
  27. to answer ur question, from left to right to bottom is Kibum, Kangin, Yesung, Donghae…Yesung and donghae are still active in sj, but kibum left to prsue his acting career and kangin is in the military (coming back around april). below kangin is Hankyung (or hangeng) he left because SM was sorta abusing him. he went solo back at his hime in China. and heechul is not pictured in this but he is also in the army as of sept 1. 2011 ;)

    7 years ago
  28. hahahaha don’t don :’D at least it’s not U, where they all looked like drag addicts (all but heechul of course, he looked like a princess, what with those long black hair and cutesy fringe…) 

    I really liked today’s mix, it’s a great segment, one I look forward every week ~o~

    7 years ago
  29. um simon and martina half the guys u circled are still there. BUT ANYWAY thank you for finally doing a super junior video (btw imma huge ELF) and the video request was hilarious hahaha, fellow crazy elf..martina i hope ur foot/ankle gets better quick!!

    7 years ago
  30. I think SuJu’s Knock out is way more traumatizing… :D
    Before I knew more about super junior, I didn’t like to watch the music video, because I always thought that Heechul looked like a crazy psychopath who will come and kill while I’m sleeping O_O

    7 years ago
  31. To be completely honest, I like the old Super Junior Songs more than their new stuff.   I’m not really a Elf or anything, but I have listened to all of their songs at least once…and I like the older stuff way better than the newer stuff. . . . I guess the hair and such doesn’t really bother me either since I was into Jpop/rock before Kpop. . . 

    7 years ago
  32. I’m going to ignore the question about changing the group members of SJ, and just assume that is you guys being facetious, because really?  o.0

    But seriously, you had not seen Don’t Don before?  Henry’s violin solo is EPIC!  That boy is so immensely talented, and honestly he is rather wasted with SME, but at least I get to see him every time I watch this MV and everytime there is a new SJ-M MV. 

    Also, thanks for adding Psy in here.  I had heard of him but not actually remembered sitting down and taking time to listen to him.  I have yet another KPop artist to groove to.  :D

    7 years ago
  33. I’m not ashamed to say that i LOOOOVVEEE Don’t Don! :p It’s got so much SPUNK! XD It’s awesome to see a different side to their abilities :)

    7 years ago
  34. On the Super Junior pic you guys should have circled Hangeng, the extremely blone one it center, he sued SM to be released from his contract.

    7 years ago
  35. yes, Don´t Don was traumatizing but don´t forget Tri-angle by DBSK… really… those looks.. the song is good but is too much, I mean they have BoA and Trax ( intense)… and their dance, is like too much information for my brain!!!! (one good thing … Micky is the only one who looks hot ;P)

    7 years ago
  36. Super Junior are vampires! Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s3e9WVYe-s

    7 years ago
  37. In the pic of super junior the guy with the shaved head is KangIn

    7 years ago
  38. I hafta say that the DJ DOC video has a very definite Latin feel to it…it was like being back in Peru and watching the music videos there…it was very odd to have the feeling of Latin hip-hop while hearing the Korean…very odd.

    7 years ago
  39. LOL! If Don Don was traumatizing, perhaps you’ve not watched Show Me Your Love by DBSK & SuJu. All their cutesy days. Or something more in line with Don Don, DBSK’s “Rising Sun” & “O” or SuJu’s “U”.

    Honestly, Don Don was one of my fav SuJu song. But after they came out with Sorry Sorry, everything went down the drain since then, IMO. Their songs became recycled and low quality. I  really hated them after Sorry Sorry. Still do. But then, it’s the songs/company I hate, not the members.

    7 years ago
  40. I LOVE Henry’s (SuJuM) violin solo…it’s like my favorite part of the entire music video.  This SuJu video totally reminds me of the totally awesome 80’s hair bands which I grew up with and for some reason I just love it, but also love all of SuJu’s new stuff as well.  Thank you Simon & Martina for adding this to your K Crunch Cocktail this week.  Great stuff!!

    7 years ago