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KpopCharts Update: Disturbance Around Heaven

February 2, 2013

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BoA “Disturbance” – Vote for it Here!

Ok, so we’ve been talking about this for a while now. We need to find a way so that girls and girl groups stop getting screwed over in the KpopCharts. There are some totally awesome songs out there, as well as totally awesome groups, that we just don’t get the chance to talk about unless they’re mega huge, like Girl’s Generation. Otherwise, smaller rookie groups with a fraction of the views will get voted in. Which, sure, is good for rookie groups, because they get a chance, but they’re not necessarily always a fair representation of what’s cool in Kpop at the moment.

So what do you think of our suggestion of us picking from the top 3 videos, rather than just automatically picking the top video? It’s got a few benefits:

1) We have more of an input on who we review, which means more fun for some reviews. If we get stuck talking about a video we don’t like, then the Kpop Music Monday might not be as fun, and we’d rather have fun reviews. We can’t like every song that’s in first place, you know?

2) We can balance out the reviews. Kpop Music Monday is a sausage fest. Girls need love, too. They’re a big part of Kpop, but you wouldn’t know that from watching our Kpop Music Mondays.

3) There’ll be an element of surprise, which is absent lately. People know who we’re gonna review by midnight Saturday, while our old Music Mondays were like “OMG! Who are you gonna review?”

There are some cons, of course

1) OMG Y U SO BIAS?!?! As soon as we pick someone who isn’t in first place…can you imagine the hellfury we’ll get from that fangroup? U GUISE ARE HATERZ! We’d be called every name in the book. One of the reasons why we built these KpopCharts was so that people could stop accusing us of that. We’d face it again. We’d be doing it for a good cause, but – hell – do we really want to deal with more whining?

2) That’s really the only con i can think of, unless you can think of others. Guise?

Let us know what you think.

Oh: and BoA’s video’s good, and deserves to be reviewed, which is why we’re talking about this right now.

Sistar19 “Gone Not Around Any Longer” – Vote for it Here!

Woohoo! Sistar’s back! Well, not fully back, but we’re big Sistar fans, aka Sissies. Alone was great, Loving U was even better, and this song is pretty cool as well. Not as great as Loving U, though. That makes me want to dance around everywhere. I don’t have that urge here. Doesn’t mean that it’s a bad song, though! It’s got saxomophones, and saxomophones are great. M83 fans, anyone? Midnight City is groovy, baby.

Also, this video is really well done. Really well done. That scene where the boy is getting pushed, and then he disappears through the door. HOLY CRAP IS THAT EVER IMPACTFUL! That, right there, is quality emotion-wrangling. That’s profound, man.

One thing we will say, though: we can’t remember the name of this song for the life of us. It would be easier if it was Gone Around Not Any Longer, because then I can abbreviate it as “GANAL” which is funny, and I can remember funny. Maybe if I say it a few more times I can remember.

GONE NOT AROUND ANY LONGER. Repeat it in a mirror. I must remember the name of this song!

Eric Nam “Heaven’s Door” – Vote for it Here!

See: we talk about rookies sometimes as well! We can’t talk about every rookie for Kpop Music Monday, because there are only so many Mondays per year, and about ten rookies per Monday (ha!) but we can at least try to shed some light on them in our KpopCharts and hopefully get you voting for them.

Side note, we actually saw a Malamute in Korea. If you’re ever in Hongdae at night on the weekend, there’s a cotton candy place at one of the busiest intersections in the clubby area, and the small cotton candy machine is only memorable because there’s a giant malamute there. It’s just sitting there, usually sleeping, with the owner. Big crowds of people gather round to see the dog, rather than get the cotton candy. We never actually had any of the cotton candy there, now that we think about it, but THE DOGGY IS SO CUTE! Well, not too cute. I tried petting it once and it growled at me. NEVER AGAIN!

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  1. I really like the idea of you guys picking a song from the first 3. The reviews of songs you liked are way more fun, I think :)

    And I’m TOTALLY with you on the doggy. I want one! Give me one. I demand one! NOW!!! >=D

    7 years ago
  2. I don’t think you should change it. At least I don’t want you to. It wouldn’t be voting anymore, right? And what about people who have voted all week and then you just decide that you don’t want to review that video? I’d much prefer if you could do another KMM: different name of cource, where you talk about your favorite. Similar to K Crunch Cocktail what you have.

    Sigh, I just really like this voting system. I think it’s really fair. There has been many rookies reviewed and girl groups too. Like Lee Hi was reviewed last year, both rookie and a girl. If people prefer boy groups, isn’t that what they want to see? If you will change it to your favs.. EYK will lose something what’s important to me in this site. And well.. mine and yours music taste is quite different too ^^’

    7 years ago
    • I agree. If they already know that they are going to refuse a MV, than I would prefer they just never include that video on the KMM Charts. Otherwise I would feel like I wasted a lot of time if I spent all that time voting my band up to the top spot several weeks in a row, just for it never to be chosen.

      7 years ago
  3. I love this idea. Maybe you guys could do a special for those rookie artists that never got voted in, but you guys actually liked.

    7 years ago
  4. Yes, please change KMM! I want to hear about your favourites, not just your viewers.

    7 years ago
  5. OMG I’m never going to hear Hey Jude the same way again!

    7 years ago
  6. I personally think you guys should do that. I really hate sometimes how a song that’s been in 1st place all week gets shoved out of the way for a vid that just came out just because of a wave of giant fan bias. *coughTVXQ”CatchMecough* I mean…>.>

    Also, I completely agree about doing more girl groups. And personally, I’m sick of seeing you review Big Bang every time they come out with anything despite what other awesomeness might be out there Like, I’m sorry, but there was no reason for your guys to review all 3 GD releases, and no haters, I’m not an anti-GD fan or anything. I actually love that man and think he has potential to be a true musical genius over time. I just don’t think it was fair to all the other bands, or Simon and Martina, to only review GD for pretty much a whole month.

    So yes, I’m so, so, so~ happy with your suggestion. And I say forget the haters, because your true fans will stay here with you guys and you’ll probably end up getting more fans for actually doing other songs besides whatever the biggest group at the time puts out.

    Also, if you don’t do BoA this week I will be very disappointed. She’s amazing and totally deserves to be reviewed by you guys.

    So my opinion in a nutshell: go with the choosing the one you want to do most out of the big three. I mean…it’s your show. I know the fans have been a huge part of it, and they still will be by choosing the top three for you to choose out of. But I personally believe you should get the final say because it’s your show~!

    Whatever you choose, I’ll still watch, I just really hope you guys go with what you are thinking. Good luck!!!

    7 years ago
    • I agree with everything you said. I’m a fan of SNSD, but other than them, it’s been mostly boy groups with the exception of Lee Hi and miss A. I voted like crazy for Secret’s songs as well as BoA’s videos and AOA. It needs to be balanced. You’re right, every time BB or GD comes back it’s accompanied with so many videos. I love BB, but it is unfair to other artists for a group to keep releasing videos to constantly get voted in. I do hope they can choose from the top 3, I like the element of surprise anyways. JumpingBoA’s totally deserve this chance to see her get reviewed.

      7 years ago
      • I agree with both of you, almost every release GD/BB comes with 3 MVs and I’m not very happy about this because the fanbase will start voting for the MVs and the whole one month is talking only about GD…

        I have nothing against GD/BB actually *although I rarely like his songs to be honest* but the MVs mixed together with the old voting system becomes so annoying during MV release periods

        I’m hoping with the new system there will be more girl groups review and KMM will become more interesting :)

        7 years ago
  7. There are so many awesome MV s out that didn’t get voted for. I would love to see some of the older (Or maybe less mainstream) MVs get reviewed. So what if we did a fan voted KMM one week then a video Simon and Martina really like, even if it’s a little older, the next week

    7 years ago
    • Hi Nolae – THIS ^
      …is my most favorite of suggestions so far.
      2 KMM’s a month by popular vote…2 KMM’s a month chosen by the hosts.
      It’s a total win=win.

      7 years ago
  8. You seriously should be able to choose K-pop Mondays on the songs you want to do! Too bad about those “WHY U GAISE SO BIASED?” trolls. I think the top 3 music video vote counts shouldn’t be revealed. So there’s that element of SURPRISE! And you guys can decide whichever MV you want to review! I don’t think that made a lot of sense, but totally think about it! I love watching your videos when you actually want to enjoy making them! Either way, ya’ll need to tell those trolls to shove it.

    7 years ago
  9. Honestly I too miss the surprise of who will be getting reviewed for Music Monday. Right now I’m excited watching to see who will win this week because neither Boa or CN Blue has been reviewed on KPMM and both videos and songs are equally awesome. Of course I’m routing for one over the other, because come on we are all a bit biased, but I’ll keep it to myself and be happy with whom ever wins because I personally honestly watch for you guys. I found EYK because of U-Kiss 0330, but stayed for Simon and Martin (Spudgy and later Meemers as well). Love what you do, do what you love, be who you are and let whiners whine because in the end you can never make everyone happy and don’t yield to annoying whiners. They need to learn that they can’t always get what they want.

    7 years ago
  10. Great idea! Anyway some MV could stay on top spot for more than a week. If they do survive second week, then I think you must review it. Fair enough? :D

    7 years ago
  11. I like the top 3 idea… It seems more fair. I usually don’t like the #1 songs (unless it’s BigBang XD)… Your totally right – some awesome songs don’t even stand a chance… And am not BB bias, they just make great music. :)
    Or you could just make a new segment – M&S choice of the week or something…

    7 years ago
    • Now that idea I like a lot more! M&S choice of the week, or choice of the month! (because an extra KMM a week would probably be too hard to do) That way they can still include songs they really want to review, without shattering fangirls’ hearts.

      7 years ago
  12. And…What about to choose one boy-band and one girl band each week If they are rating more all less the same? I think it would be much work for you but that would be more fair for you and for the fans.

    7 years ago
  13. I think Boa’s video is really creative,the ending part…and OMG I want that dog!

    7 years ago
  14. It might be a little sneaky, but, if you choose in the top 3, you should hide the number of facebook, google +, commentary and votes. That way, people will still know who are in the top 3, but can’t tell who is first.
    People couldn’t call you biased, and you would be able to choose the video freely.

    7 years ago
  15. I really want that Infinite H and C.N blue video would be reviewed, so I vote for them also, not only for Boa. Yeep, also I think that if Hyuna’s song Ice Cream was reviewed, it would be the nastiest video and the most memorable. xD People are biased and we can’t do anything about it. So I will vote for Boa later, because now I want Infinite H song for Music Monday, it’s good. But I liked other ideas about top 3 videos.
    Also, sorry Simon, I laughed once at you >.<
    Cute dooogs, ~ So Nam Bingos or Nam cats? xD

    7 years ago
  16. I think it’s a good idea to let you pick between the top 3. ^^ maybe we don’t have to watch big bang reviews for 3 weeks in a raw if you do so. ^^

    7 years ago
  17. Hmmm sounds like a good idea. I’m worried about the hate you guys’ll get from it though. I support the idea though. It’d be nice to see a girl group review every now and then.

    I love how’s Boa’s video kinda lets you choose the ending to it. It’s a cool idea.

    Sistar. o -o That glass table seemed invisible to me in some shots.

    Eric Nam. He’s just adorable, and so is the doggy! Alaskan Malamutes~ Love them just as much as Huskies and Samoyeds. And he gets my respect for tweeting about the eyk charts so many times. :P In 3 different languages, might I add. o -o

    7 years ago
  18. What about including the number of views with the votes. For example, say a video got 2.5 million views but it only has 2,000 votes. You can take the 2.5 divided it by two and get 1.25 and multiply that by votes, or simply mulitple the 2.5 by the number of votes. It’s all based on how much you want the views to count for. 2,000 x 1.25=2,500 votes or 2,000 x 2.5= 5,000. That way the views don’t go unaccounted for and we can truly have a song chosen by both the fans and the popularity of the video.

    I don’t know if that is too much math or not, but I think it’s a way to be unbiased; because some of your funniest videos come from songs you guys weren’t that into. I would hate to give that up.

    7 years ago
    • I would say the problem with that is the views don’t necessarily reflect what the EYK viewers want to see. For example, U-Kiss never does that well on the music video views, but they do remarkably, incredibly well on EYK votes. And the EYK charts was created to be a reflection of what the EYK viewers (the nasties) enjoy and want reviewed, not as a reflection of what the rest of the world, which doesn’t necessarily even watch EYK, likes.

      I think including view counts would also make it incredibly hard for any rookie group that doesn’t come from SM, JYP, or YG to ever get into the top 3.

      I do agree that some of their funniest videos come from songs they didn’t particularly like. I like to hear the unfavorable opinions as well. For example: I love their review of Teen Top. Yeah, they hated the song and tore into it the whole time, and I liked that a lot. Because I thought somebody with some influence should get up there and say what a terrible, terrible message the song and video conveyed. Also, it becomes a bit redundant if they are always saying “I loved this song so much!” and we’re like “Yeah, of course you did, because you only pick songs that you like a lot.” It would pretty much get rid of the first part of their reviews, because there would never be any expectation that they would pick a song or mv they hated.

      7 years ago
  19. could you get rid of ranks 1-3 and just make them ‘top 3’ instead, so you can just pick one?

    7 years ago
  20. I think that you guys picking a song out of the top 3 is a great idea. although i do like boybands so it’s not like i am bored of you guys reviewing them, but you’re right, girls need attention to! you should do it.

    7 years ago
  21. The funny thing in Germany about dogs is that there are sooooooo many!!! Like really every family has one, you see them every where (i have one too). And it doesn´t matter if the dog is 2m tall or only 10cm they are ALWAYS cute for germans (for children who are only 2 years old, babys and old people, ALWAYS). And when there is someone who isn´t from germany and there is a dog walking and there are 50m between them there start to scream and run away…. -.-

    7 years ago
  22. On whether you should pick or not: I think over all it could be good. That element of surprise might have more people tuning in on monday. Most importantly, it could increase the quality of your videos if you choose ones that you can make a more entertaining video about.

    Some other cons to consider is largely this: Yes you may get more girl groups in, but is that what your viewers want to watch? Not necessarily. A large part of the online kpop fandom is female, which is why mostly boy groups get voted in. I’m not really interested in watching the girl group videos. It has nothing to do with the music or the video, but I simply do not like the sound of most girls voices. I find male voices to be a lot more pleasant to listen to, and a lot more attractive to my ears. Usually, the only way I enjoy a girl group KMM is if you guys are particularly funny/entertaining.

    So you might gain more male viewers by picking out more girl groups, but at the potential cost of decreasing female viewers, particularly on that video.

    Lastly, and most importantly: It will simply shatter my Kissme heart if you ever refuse to review U-Kiss. You may hate songs like Believe, but I still want to hear your opinions on it, and see skits done off it. Part of the excitement of U-Kiss having a comeback is that I get to see them reviewed again for KMM, and giggle like a foolish fangirl the whole time. And U-Kiss usually has 3 or 4 comebacks a year. Can you imagine how it must feel for someone who’s band only has 1 comeback a year, but you never chose their video, so the fans had to wait another whole year before they could vote it up again so that they can try to get you to pick it?

    7 years ago
  23. I would love the element of surprise being brought back again, that’s what made Music Monday, Music Monday. However, there are those hardcore voters who wants their group to always get the music monday, if not, they go crazy O-O I was thinking maybe take the top voted song along with a randomly generated number which will be reviewed too?

    7 years ago
  24. Now that you guys are getting interns and staff happening, maybe you can do two KMM’s a week? But instead make one a girl group, and the other a boy group. You can still have them voted in, which will avoid you guys getting all the hate emails, AND get a chance to review and equal amount of boys and girls groups. ( another option is to do 3 KMM a week, with the top boy group song and top girl group song that are voted in, PLUS a third one that is your guys’ personal favourite…. kind of covers all the bases doesn’t it?)

    7 years ago
  25. Personally i think the reason we have so many guy groups voted in is because it’s all teenaged girls voting them in. Which isn’t a bad thing but there biased to there male loves. I agree thats it’s not far to all the girl groups out there. just you wait you crazy girl fans one day all your boy bands are going to be gone. and there just going to review girl groups
    I think what would be a great idea thought is when Simon and Martina are able to splet up music monday into two different days. one day is for Girl groups and one day is for boy groups i don’t know if that would work. but it could be thought off. there has to be something so that girl groups can get attention and not just Boys.

    7 years ago
  26. Martina is back~! Martina is back~! Yay, yay, yay~! Martina is back~!

    7 years ago
  27. someone said this already but, maybe you could do a special KMM every month or every couple of month. Like a bonus KMM ? Idk. Where you review a video that didn’t has its chance. Where you pick the video you want to review. Maybe it can even be a special KMM which would be a little longer so you can review 2 videos ? You pick each one ! I know it means more work but if it’s just once every 2 months and you’re picking the video of your choice it could be pretty nice and cool don’t you think ? … no ? … ‘k. .__.

    7 years ago
  28. As long as you review something i could care less what it is. Do an indie video that’s last on the charts for all i care. YOU are the ones that make the KMM worth watching. If we vote for something that you can’t even come up with a single skit for then what’s the point?

    I say pick from the top 3. That way you can pick one that you can really do something with. We all have our own kpop fandoms, but the one we all have in common is you, cause we are Nasty.

    7 years ago
  29. I kinda like the idea.

    It would be nice for all the groups who nearly get first, but just by a little get second or third, to know they may still have a chance. Especially S&M take in account things like, how often does this group have a comeback? when was the last time they were reviewed? Obviously not those things alone, but in addition to the quality or over the top creativity of the MV & song itself.

    7 years ago
  30. Yes to a rotating system (one week fans another week out of the top three)… !!

    Or why not return to a K crunch ? or a short review 2 min of songs that did not get first place last week?

    7 years ago
    • That is a good idea, doing a short review. Then they could still talk about artists who are getting neglected or those they like without having to put as much work into it as a regular MM and the fans would still get to vote in whoever they want.

      7 years ago
  31. Like Martina said, it would be great if a boa song was reviewed! And there’s taemin as a bonus.

    7 years ago
  32. I’m all for the change. There are too many groups and too many good songs getting pushed aside because their fan base isn’t that big. I know we all want our favorite groups get reviewed but all the fun of voting gets taken out when you know who going to get first place. I think it’s time for soothing new for eatyourkimchi and this is the easiest way with out putting too much more stress on Simon and Martina.

    7 years ago
  33. I love your solution…. like LOVE

    7 years ago
  34. hmm… i’m not sure about your suggestion. as much as i get your point and see what you’re trying to say and do… i don’t know.
    as for me, maybe you’re having less fun reviewing a song you don’t really like or enjoy, but i think that very often the kmm i loved the best were for the videos you didn’t like much and ranted about it and made fun of it.
    i gotta say that, unless i’m really biased etc, i always vote for the video that has most potential as a kmm. so not because the song or video is really nice, but mostly because i can predict that it’s going to be fun to make fun of it ?because it’s kinda laughable and ridiculous ? … idk…?
    in all honesty, let say that as for me i think that how the voting system works right now is still the best. it could be improve in some ways, i’m sure of it ! But for now i still think it’s the best to stick to it…? meh.

    7 years ago
  35. I feel sorry for you guys when a boring video wins (which I’ve seen happen for both boy and girl singers by the way), but I don’t think you should make this change just to try and review more girl groups/singers. If you make this change it should be so you can pick the most entertaining video regardless of gender. Even if you’ve reviewed several boy groups/singers in a row a mediocre video by a girl group/singer shouldn’t win just to try and balance the numbers (or vice versa). You might get more videos for girl groups into the top three simply because people stop voting for guy groups because they feel they’re wasting their time voting for a guy group when their vote doesn’t count as much as someone else’s vote for a girl group. I know if you make this change just so more girl groups and singers win I will probably stop voting. I’m not anti-girl groups (although I really don’t like aegyo or most of the dances girl groups do). I really wanted you to review Orange Caramel’s Lipstick, Girl’s Day’s Oh My God and Miryo’s Dirty. I really liked those videos and was disappointed when they didn’t win. I just don’t like the idea of making this change just so you review more girl groups. Good luck with what ever decision you make because you can’t make everyone happy.

    7 years ago
  36. I think you could review the top voted song and then a song that you actually want to review! That way, votes still count and you get to talk about an artiste that you are interested in.

    7 years ago
  37. I kind of like this idea.

    It would be good for all the groups who just nearly got first but just by a little were placed 2nd or 3rd. Especially if along with the MV/Song itself, S&M take in consideration things like…When was the last time this group got reviewed? How often to they do MV’s?

    7 years ago
  38. I think audience participation is what makes the KMMs so popular. There is an incentive for people to vote and watch the results/KMMs if their efforts will result in their biases or favorites winning. However, I do think it is a great idea if every week, you alternate between choosing the one you want to review and what the audience wants to review.

    7 years ago
  39. Hi everyone ~ I’m rolling down mah sexy window to say:
    I’ve really enjoyed reading all the responses to Simon & Martina’s query.
    (go Nasties! ~ )
    It’s mostly notes of…”do what you like and we’ll like it too”…and “try splitting the chart into Male and Female”
    support and cheers. yay!
    …thing is…I’m not seeing many passionate Hurrahs!! at the actual prospect of girl groups winning and being reviewed.

    That is ———-► specific groups getting a shout out as the *hoped for* future review.
    So I’d like to ask: can you name a girl group that you’d really like to see win KMM?

    I admit (openly) that I’m not a fan of Aegyo (when Martina does it – it gets a pass, because we know inside – she’s a head banger rock-star) ….so, for me, that cuts, solidly, half of the K-girl groups out of my interest —- yet, I find CrayonPop’s Dancing Queen to be squishably adorable….so unlike my normal taste. hahaha! So yeah…..who do you hope for?

    7 years ago
  40. I think if you were to do that, you should definitely do it alternated-ly between choosing and fan votes.

    Another idea that I had thought of a while back, but am not sure how well it would work for your guys’ schedules and workload, was this: So, very often there are some really cool songs and such that you guys would really like reviewed, such as girl groups, etc. And they get high up there, but never make number 1 and you guys never get to review them. Well, I had a thought that you guys could, once a month, or every couple months, whatever you so choose, pick a song, that made it up to the Top 10 or so, but never got reviewed and eventually faded away, and review it. Or just any song that that specific month, that you guys, personally, LOVED, and really wanted to review. (My idea for a name, mostly if you chose the Top 10 version, was like “Drop Out Special” or something, because they rose up and got so close! Just to, drop off the charts, and fade away.)

    Again, I’m not sure how well that would work for your guys’ scheduling time and whatnot. And also you had the “Best Potential KMM” for your end of the year awards, so I don’t know if those would conflict. (Except of course that the monthly special would be a “Nasty Family Pick” instead of a “Nasty Fan Pick”, like the end of year awards?) So yeah, another idea to throw out there. :)

    7 years ago