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KpopCharts Update: Disturbance Around Heaven

February 2, 2013

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BoA “Disturbance” – Vote for it Here!

Ok, so we’ve been talking about this for a while now. We need to find a way so that girls and girl groups stop getting screwed over in the KpopCharts. There are some totally awesome songs out there, as well as totally awesome groups, that we just don’t get the chance to talk about unless they’re mega huge, like Girl’s Generation. Otherwise, smaller rookie groups with a fraction of the views will get voted in. Which, sure, is good for rookie groups, because they get a chance, but they’re not necessarily always a fair representation of what’s cool in Kpop at the moment.

So what do you think of our suggestion of us picking from the top 3 videos, rather than just automatically picking the top video? It’s got a few benefits:

1) We have more of an input on who we review, which means more fun for some reviews. If we get stuck talking about a video we don’t like, then the Kpop Music Monday might not be as fun, and we’d rather have fun reviews. We can’t like every song that’s in first place, you know?

2) We can balance out the reviews. Kpop Music Monday is a sausage fest. Girls need love, too. They’re a big part of Kpop, but you wouldn’t know that from watching our Kpop Music Mondays.

3) There’ll be an element of surprise, which is absent lately. People know who we’re gonna review by midnight Saturday, while our old Music Mondays were like “OMG! Who are you gonna review?”

There are some cons, of course

1) OMG Y U SO BIAS?!?! As soon as we pick someone who isn’t in first place…can you imagine the hellfury we’ll get from that fangroup? U GUISE ARE HATERZ! We’d be called every name in the book. One of the reasons why we built these KpopCharts was so that people could stop accusing us of that. We’d face it again. We’d be doing it for a good cause, but – hell – do we really want to deal with more whining?

2) That’s really the only con i can think of, unless you can think of others. Guise?

Let us know what you think.

Oh: and BoA’s video’s good, and deserves to be reviewed, which is why we’re talking about this right now.

Sistar19 “Gone Not Around Any Longer” – Vote for it Here!

Woohoo! Sistar’s back! Well, not fully back, but we’re big Sistar fans, aka Sissies. Alone was great, Loving U was even better, and this song is pretty cool as well. Not as great as Loving U, though. That makes me want to dance around everywhere. I don’t have that urge here. Doesn’t mean that it’s a bad song, though! It’s got saxomophones, and saxomophones are great. M83 fans, anyone? Midnight City is groovy, baby.

Also, this video is really well done. Really well done. That scene where the boy is getting pushed, and then he disappears through the door. HOLY CRAP IS THAT EVER IMPACTFUL! That, right there, is quality emotion-wrangling. That’s profound, man.

One thing we will say, though: we can’t remember the name of this song for the life of us. It would be easier if it was Gone Around Not Any Longer, because then I can abbreviate it as “GANAL” which is funny, and I can remember funny. Maybe if I say it a few more times I can remember.

GONE NOT AROUND ANY LONGER. Repeat it in a mirror. I must remember the name of this song!

Eric Nam “Heaven’s Door” – Vote for it Here!

See: we talk about rookies sometimes as well! We can’t talk about every rookie for Kpop Music Monday, because there are only so many Mondays per year, and about ten rookies per Monday (ha!) but we can at least try to shed some light on them in our KpopCharts and hopefully get you voting for them.

Side note, we actually saw a Malamute in Korea. If you’re ever in Hongdae at night on the weekend, there’s a cotton candy place at one of the busiest intersections in the clubby area, and the small cotton candy machine is only memorable because there’s a giant malamute there. It’s just sitting there, usually sleeping, with the owner. Big crowds of people gather round to see the dog, rather than get the cotton candy. We never actually had any of the cotton candy there, now that we think about it, but THE DOGGY IS SO CUTE! Well, not too cute. I tried petting it once and it growled at me. NEVER AGAIN!

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  1. I actually like this idea. I love being surprised at who was chosen for Music Mondays. I think its a good idea guise! You should definitely do it!

    7 years ago
  2. sausage fest … ><

    7 years ago
  3. I think you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. I like the idea of picking on from the top 3, and bringing back some uncertainty to which song/group will be reviewed, but chances are that they will still be all male groups most of the time.

    7 years ago
  4. I think changing up the way music mondays gets pick is a good idea, it seems like some of the mv’s that get the most votes don’t always make the greatest music mondays. One suggestion would be maybe once every 2/3/4 weeks you (Simon & Martina) pick which video gets reviewed. That way some of the rookie/lesser-known groups with great videos get a chance to be reviewed and I think it would make for some funner videos.

    7 years ago
  5. You should definitely pick what videos you want to review. It seems like mostly big names are getting reviewed and I’d love to learn more about what you guys think about rookie groups/ less well known groups too. Maybe then you could have a week every couple of months where you do what you did with the EYK awards and have a list of videos that we vote on to be reviewed?

    7 years ago
  6. to be honest, i almost never vote on the kpopcharts. it always seems very lopsided biased towards popular groups, be it male or female. the videos i wanted you guys to do a review on, NEVER gets on the top, NEVER. if you ask me, i say screw the voting, let simon pick a video, martina pick a video then the fans will choose between these 2 (very much like the showdown, except its for the next review).

    7 years ago
    • S

      VOTING POLLS = HITS ON WEBSITE (VIEWERS’ PARTICIPATION). they can do a rotational system review whats on top of voting and review what they like. taking out the poll in EYK will be disastrous because S&M also earn money from review video views :p

      7 years ago
    • Amen for your words! What about Gain’s Bloom! or BOA’s songs, or these not so popular MV that I REALLY REALLY like and NEVER get reviewed!

      7 years ago
    • For me is more about: I never vote, mainly because I see videos that seem to be great on KMM . Then s and m do another video that I thought wouldn’t lend itself to KMM but I the get a surprise….

      7 years ago
  7. I think that you should do a music monday review on one girl group and one boy group, I think voting should still be open, but that way, it won’t be so difficult

    7 years ago
  8. Any idea where you review mv’s you find interesting would be a good one. I’m not really a huge fan of voting because I’d like to see lesser know video’s get attention. People will complain no matter what you choose because people like to complain. ;)

    7 years ago
  9. I wanna say that I really like that idea. Of course there are going to be a lot of people that complain, but I think that if you do it right it won’t be too bad. I think if you are going to put that plan into action, you will need to give people enough time for it to sink in.

    So, say you decide today that, yes, that is what you are going to do. I think you should not implement it for maybe about a month (3-4 KMMs) and at the end of each KMM and each Chart update let the viewers know that starting insert date of the KMM when you will be choosing from the top 3 here you will be picking from the top 3 videos. You should also put an announcement on the chart page (in big BOLD letters and if they can flash that would be better! Anything that will grab the attention of people so they may actually have a chance of reading it!).

    Also, I know other people have mentioned this, but I wish you would bring back the K-crunch cocktail. Maybe even replace the chart update with it. There are a lot of songs that are awesome that never get talked about and people never see because they don’t sort the chart by date and look at the videos that just came out and will never make it to the top 10. Also, I think it would be a good way for new (and old) kpop fans to discover older kpop songs and videos (from 1st and 2nd generation idols that may or may not be actively promoting but are still and influence in kpop). But, if you want to keep the chart update, maybe of the 3 songs, you can feature a song that is buried on the 2 or 3rd page of the chart.

    7 years ago
    • I’m so digging a Wonderful Treasure Find corner with old songs and/or songs that are just released but not given enough attention! And yes, it’s higher on my list than the kpop charts update

      7 years ago
    • I also would like to hear them talk about “old” songs~ I really like the indie playlist, but that’s all indie. The same kind of thing with non-indie would be awesome :O ( better than a kpop-update, maybe..)

      7 years ago
  10. Someone already said it, I’m sure, but I think that the most fair thing would be to have a Girl kpop chart and a boy kpop chart, and just to alternate between the charts every other week. If you did the idea Martina suggested and picked out of the top 3, you would not only increase your antis and hate mail, but you would also lose viewership since fans would get frustrated that their voting mania doesn’t necessarily mean their oppas will get picked. But the most important thing is the hate. You guys get flack for what is already a pretty fair system, just how many times worse will it get when you actually are the ones responsible for who gets picked. I think it would get way too ugly and you guys would end up demotivated for doing awesome music mondays, so please no don’t do that.

    7 years ago
    • I like the sound of that idea (I like boy groups almost exclusively, but I’m all for a little more fairness)! The only thing that I don’t like about the idea of two separate charts is that the current system makes it almost impossible for a song to stay high up in the chart for more than a week, so it’d be great if they would reduce the penalty on votes that older videos get. That way, a boy song or girl song wouldn’t get screwed just because it happened to come out on the “wrong” week for a review.

      7 years ago
  11. I am all for the change for picking from the top 3 – I would even be okay if you picked one at random, or from the top 10 or something. I think that some of the smaller groups and rookie groups just don’t have big fandoms, and will never win even if they have the rockingiest, bestest, most amazing videos ever. Sometimes a new video also comes in closer to the poll closing time, and misses the next Monday, just because of the time lag. I feel like the change would also help newcomers/old K-pop fans to be exposed to some groups that are less well known. You could always have one MM a month be one where the Nasties vote it in.

    7 years ago
    • Nic

      That’s a good idea. Like not always being top 3 but could be top 10 sometimes.

      7 years ago
  12. I think that if you were to choose one of the top 3 videos, then you’d have to limit the amount of votes per person to make everything less stressful for everybody. I mean, like a poll where people would place their vote in once and fans wouldn’t have to be so obsessed with voting everyday and commenting. Also, if you hid the scores and only showed what the top 3 videos are, to keep that element of surprise, nobody would call you out for unfairly choosing the video of your choice over the video with most votes since people wouldn’t be able to see who was in the lead anyway.

    These are some suggestions, which of course you could modify to your liking, but I really do think that hiding the scores and highlighting what the top 3 videos are would work fine.

    7 years ago
    • C

      This is basically the idea I came here to mention. I really like the idea of S&M getting to pick a video out of the top 3 or top 5 or whatever. If they keep the scores of those top videos secret then I think it would cut down on the complaining about bias and being unfair. This would allow S&M to review some music videos that they were more interested in than others and would keep them from having to review a video that they really don’t like at all.

      7 years ago
    • I like the “only show which are in the top 3 not which is in 1st place”!
      This will, I think, also upset less fans, since they didn’t know whether their favorite was in 1st place and didn’t get a review.

      7 years ago
  13. while reading,i did think at first, “why not just make 2 reviews, guy/girl?” but 1, you already don’t sleep to the point of needing a sleepcave at the studio, and 2, i really forgot how exciting MM used to be, before the time when i already know how it would go based on the charts. i say, yes!!!!

    7 years ago
  14. I like the idea of picking from top 3. I know that a lot of people might say you’re biased or whatever, but those same people would say that to you if you picked the video that they wanted and gave it a negative review. You’re never going to win that. I’d rather see you guys review what you actually like.

    7 years ago
  15. i would love to see you guys choosing! some great videos that would have made awesome music mondays (ice cream, anyone?) never got voted in, and there are so many cool girl rookie groups that don’t have the fanbase of exo or b.a.p. but have put out really great songs and videos!!! (like glam’s i like that, which is an incredible track, or nine muses’ dolls/ticket/news, etc.)

    maybe once in a while you could even do a classic music monday. it would be cool to see you guys review, like, beg’s abracadabra, t-ara’s roly poly, etc.

    overall, while i think allowing some fan input is nice, you guys are the ‘professionals’ here, so to speak. you know what’s going to be fun and interesting and new and what won’t be. 5000 videos about how sm artists are stuck in boxes are bound to get old after a while. creating new and exciting content should be more important than soothing the egos of obsessive boy group fans.

    7 years ago
  16. Maybe you could do a special KMM once a month that is completely your choice. Either, first or last Monday of the month, you totally handpick the MV.

    I liked the anniversary episode where you reviewed two songs that you chose (Balloons-DBSK, etc.) That episode was awesome because it was literally “No F**** Given”.

    Also, Simon’s hat saying “Chicago F****” O_O

    7 years ago
  17. So I would be totally in favor of your suggestion and generally prefer the videos you guys pick yourself. In fact, I would probably be in favor you guys picking every music Monday regardless of who is in the top 3. However, in trying to be civil, how about a compromise where you two pick your own video to review for the first Monday of every month? This avoids the unlikely yet still possible outcome where all top 3 options are a sausage fest or all boring.

    7 years ago
  18. How about voting using our facebook account and male fans gets 5 votes while female gets 1? That’ll surely balance the share of male and female artist on Music Mondays.

    7 years ago
  19. Um,, (pls correct me if I’m wrong) you mean, you’ll choose among the Top 3 videos to review then? So, we don’t need to make our favorite video to be the Top video anymore because you’ll choose one of the Top 3 vids that you like the most, right?

    Benefit:

    The fans from a smaller fandom wont need to camp out to make gazillion but relevant comments anymore like me (coz I’m a LO/E, you know what I mean? Three defeats in a row….A;;)

    Con:

    Are you sure this will help to decrease sausage fest for KMM? How if the top 3 videos are from male groups? That’s just another sausage fest for sure.

    7 years ago
  20. Me, the ideal is to do at least two or three KMMs. But picking from a Top 3 (or maybe Top 5) is a good option, too.

    7 years ago
  21. why don’t you put it to a vote on Facebook and see the Orval results but their would have to be rules set so people can know or maybe you can do that at the end of each month or something like that

    7 years ago
  22. I actually don’t know what I would prefer…Sometimes when some of my favourite groups put out a video that’s totally not really EYK Monday worthy music video wise, I actually pray that people don’t vote it in. I don’t really like hearing the negative stuff but then again, the world’s not all puppies and rainbows (though I wish it was xD) and when you guys say negative stuff it’s pretty funny actually xD I don’t like girl groups much but I do agree they get the short end of the stick. I mean 2012 so many great girl group rookies came out and none of the got a chance to be reviewed :/ But it may be difficult to choose just between 3 groups when people can just vote one in. I don’t know…I feel kinda useless writing this comment when I’m not giving any suggestions

    7 years ago
  23. i think it’s nice idea :D
    but remember ur safety. like, if there was a week that big comebacks are happening (shinee, suju, snsd, bb, 2ne1 you name it) i think it’s wiser if you either choose the top 1, or choose with a random selection…
    or else fanclubs will go against you and plot ur death and curse you slowly.

    7 years ago
  24. It’s your website! When you started you picked it out, so why not? I’d imagine 90% of the time you’d probably pick the one in 1st place anyway. Plus, your best videos are when you’re excited about it. :)

    7 years ago
  25. Heck, just go ahead and choose a video from the top 10 on the charts. What if f(x) comes out with a new video, or 4minute, or KARA? Then what? THEY’LL NEVER GET REVIEWED! It’s all BOY BANDS BOY BANDS BOY BANDS! Seriously, nasties? CNBLUE? You have CNBLUE in first place ahead of BoA? I know that CNBLUE makes ladyboners like some kind of flower boy pandemic, but you seriously need to GET OVER YOUR BIAS because THERE ARE MALE NASTIES TOO, YOU KNOW.

    Not everyone that likes K-Pop is a girl, and Eat Your Kimchi is THE BIGGEST KPOP BLOG ON THE PLANET. As nasties, as K-Pop fans, you have a RESPONSIBILITY to vote for THE BEST video, not just your favorite. K-Pop has the potential to take over the global pop industry, and, as a Californian, I am incredibly sick of the global monopoly that my local Hollywood has over the market. KANYE IS CRAP COMPARED TO G-DRAGON. You can help K-Pop spread by VOTING THE RIGHT WAY on the charts, getting the best videos into KMM, and letting the very best of K-Pop KNOWN to the ENTIRE WORLD.

    7 years ago
    • I can see what you are saying but in a way, you make it seem like fan girls just blindly vote. You know there is a reason why fans become fans, it is because they admire the band and regardless of whether a video is deemed “the best” or not depends on your taste

      7 years ago
    • “As nasties, as K-Pop fans, you have a RESPONSIBILITY to vote for THE BEST video, not just your favorite” I just want to point out, in order to do that accurately, you will need to have a lot of time on your hands to go through all the videos that are on the chart. I usually try to sort the chart by date and watch all the new videos that come out regularly, but it’s extremely time consuming and I am about 3 pages behind (probably more).

      7 years ago
  26. I actually really like the ideas you came up with. I constantly hope that a rookie group will get some recognition and am happy to see when they are up on the chart, but then a popular group makes a comeback and…that’s that….forget about the rookies possibly getting reviewed…It makes me sad…Im not hating Im just saying my opinion. Rookies need love shown towards them too!

    7 years ago
  27. I say go for it ONLY if it’s not a week when major groups release their music videos. (Example if BigBang, SNSD or SHINEE release a video and you choose not to pick it then people will go awol and plot you’re guy’s death.) It sounds like a good idea right now, considering the videos that are out. :)

    7 years ago
  28. I like your idea. It gives an element of surprise while still listening to the voters. I would love to see you guys to CNBlue’s newest song, which was in third, but I don’t think it would ever reach 1st place. This way I know there would be a chance for it .

    7 years ago
  29. Please please do that,i think s better if you choose the winner because it´ll be a surprise ,it will be super fun, i like that idea,im with you guys [sorry for my bad english :( ]

    7 years ago
  30. What about a combination of both the current system and a personal selection by you two from among the top 3 or so? For example, you could review the top voted song one week, then the next week pick among the top 3 or 5 voted videos, then the week after that review the top voted video again, and keep alternating like that. That could be a good compromise, since both you and the fans would have input.

    7 years ago
  31. Sounds fair I guess.

    7 years ago
  32. I dunno, like some, about picking from the top three ALL the time… I would suggest doing it once or twice a month. That way you guys still get to pick videos, too, but at the same time we still can have solid picks ourselves as fans. >3< Even if it's nothing good you have to say about a video, sometimes that can be more interesting than just praise praise praise, y'know? Funnier too at times.

    7 years ago
  33. I say go for it ONLY if it’s not a week when major groups release their music videos. (Example if BigBang, SNSD or SHINEE release a video and you choose not to pick it than people will go awol and plot you’re guy’s death.) It sounds like a good idea right now, considering the videos that are out. :)

    7 years ago
    • To be fair they would still have to follow the rules even if it was a major group. After all some of the more mediocre videos that have won have been from major groups because of their large fandoms.

      7 years ago
  34. Hm I agree its really sad that a lot of talented and beautiful mvs dont stand a Chance in winning for example soju or snsd ( with super boring mvs… Most of thr time)
    But choosing from top three doesn’t Sounds good. I wouldnt be as encouraged to vote, because it didnt really matter which Is First…Why dont you Do an extra kpop music ‘monday’ where you review you Personal favorite of two weeks or a month or something.
    So ön another day of the week. Or an special music monday where you guys choose your favorite.

    7 years ago
  35. I know it’s called K-Pop Music Monday, but I’d love to see more variety. Sure the fan girls will complain – but they complain when their group/artiste aren’t picked, they complain when they are picked, they complain when you make fun of the names or the Engrish lyrics (which btw, I think is hilarious), they complain when groups don’t win consecutive weeks…no matter what you guys do, they will complain.

    Simon and Martina, you both influence my taste in Korean music (I’ve found so many gems in the K-Indie videos you guys post), and it would be nice to hear more about the K-Pop artistes and bands that you two really like.

    I like the top 3 option. Some people below suggested splitting the charts into male and female sections – but I’m guessing that might be more work than you guys can handle right now.

    7 years ago
  36. Yes. yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes….you get the point. This is y’all’s site, so don’t feel like you guys have to satisfy everyone. Haters gonna hate, so do yo thang, uknow what I mean….^^. I honestly don’t give a crap if y’all don’t review the number 1 slot; however others might, but whatever you guys decide to do y’all have my support 100%…^^

    7 years ago
  37. I LOVE the idea of picking in the top 3. I actually enjoy more of the girl/lady groups than the boy/man groups. So I am glad I am not the only one who feels they are totally being shafted in the charts/ music mondays.

    7 years ago
  38. I think picking from the top 3 would work best because there are a lot of videos that get voted in because the band is popular, but the video itself might not be that great. Plus, I don’t like watching KMMs where you have nothing nice or interesting to say.

    7 years ago
  39. LOVE Simon’s hat ;D

    7 years ago
  40. About the turtle necks…if the end of the shirt gets shorter when the top of it takes over the world in octopus mode ill be fine with it ;) If not, then Martina hand me a weapon because ill be joining you in battle.

    7 years ago