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Speaker’s Corner: Thoughts on Plastic Surgery in Korea

January 11, 2015

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Hot topic coming through… but first, an interesting story. Before we planned on opening up a coffee shop, Simon and I had planned a Speaker’s Corner video booth segment that involved us building a portable video booth that would allow us to move it to various universities and busy subway stops. Our plan was to get more interaction from random strangers and also from Korean people by posing hot topic questions. The problem was designing a light enough booth that could be moved and set up quickly while providing adequate light and audio for a video. We also faced other problems like how would we power this booth if we’re on the street? Would we need a permit? After many designs issues we just gave up on the idea…for the time being. Once we knew we were opening a coffee shop, we asked Hyunwoo if it was okay to save space in the shop for our video booth idea. Then we got super excited.

We hired a design team right away and started explain the concept of the video booth. It took over 8 months of design and testing to get it started not to mention issues with figuring out file sizes and transferring the video and audio but we finally got it up and running! Today’s topic is an example of one of the hot issue topics we wanted to get people’s opinions on and we were really nervous to post it in the booth. Not because it’s a bad topic but because we were nervous no one would answer it. We were totally wrong and super happy!

Today’s topic is all about plastic surgery and what you think about it. We did a TL;DR on Plastic Surgery in Korea before, so check that out if you haven’t already. It’s always interesting to see the different perspectives on body modification in general. We see a couple major recurring points, such as from the guy in this week’s video that mentioned their is a different perspective between what is even deemed plastic surgery. Indeed a lot of students didn’t consider getting double eyelid surgery to be plastic surgery, and I would argue that double eyelid surgery is the most common thing done in Korea. So even the basic concept of what is plastic surgery is arguable! But I think all of us can agree that plastic surgery done for health reasons is not really the type of thing people argue about.

I think the arguments always comes down to whether plastic surgery done in order to change your appearance because you’re not happy with your current appearance, is a good idea or not. What I found really intriguing was the two reoccurring opposing schools of thought: if getting plastic surgery makes you more confident and thus happier, go for it VS many people in Korea get plastic surgery done but only due to social pressure so it does not lead to happiness. So then the question is this: does social pressure in Korea make you want to get plastic surgery done, and then after getting plastic surgery are you then confident and happy because you now fit into societies view of beauty? Keep in mind being the “correct beautiful” in Korea can help you get a job or land you a hot boyfriend/girlfriend and thus a good marriage. And I’m not being judgemental when I say that, it’s just the way things work here. So on one side of the argument, if you goal is simply getting a particular job or spouse, I think plastic surgery would indeed make you happier. But on the other side of the argument, being hired or married solely based off of your looks doesn’t actually guarantee a job or spouse that makes you happy in the long run. I really think both arguments are totally legit. It’s such a difficult topic! What do you think about all this? Perhaps you know somebody that loves their new looks? Maybe you had it yourself? Would you change something about yourself if you could? Let us know in the comment section!

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  1. Can you do a Speaker’s Corner regarding what happened in France? I am really curious to know how people in the world reacted to the events at Charlie Hebdo.

    5 years ago
  2. I’ve found the social attitudes toward plastic surgery (here in America) to be confusing… On the one hand, there is so much pressure to look a certain way and to be beautiful (especially for females), and often plastic surgery is the only way to get that look. But on the other hand, there’s also this idea that you should look “natural,” so when people or celebrities get plastic surgery, everyone suddenly gets turned off and talks badly about them. I think the same could even be said for make-up or over-styling. So it’s like you have to meet these incredibly high standards for beauty, but you can’t be obvious about it, which makes the task pretty much impossible.

    5 years ago
    • Your comment is so spot on! I totally agree. There is a very big plastic surgery stigma here in the States probably because it is seen as a “plastic” or fake beauty. As you said, we idealize someone with natural beauty, someone who doesn’t have to try hard and still looks great. I think that is what makes our idea of beauty so damaging. If you are not born looking a certain way, then there is no point in trying. Not a healthy environment for anyone. :/

      5 years ago
  3. I feel like plastic surgery is such a tough subject to have a solid opinion on because there are too many facets to the issue. I’m a big believer in the philosophy “You do you” and everyone else should just deal as long as you aren’t like attacking or harming others. I know a few people who have had various plastic surgeries for both aesthetic and medical reasons (from digit reattachment to breast augmentation) and they’re all happier for it. As long as an individual is aware of the risks involved in whatever procedure they intend to undergo and is certain they want it, then I say go for it!

    That said, I really don’t agree with the idea of society pressuring individuals to the extent of body modification just for the sake of employment or ‘dating’. Balls man…

    I like how, I look and personally have never really considered plastic surgery beyond those for medical reasons but I don’t see the point in judging or degrading those who do want it.

    5 years ago
    • I think the same. I believe everybody has little things they want to fix, but (having me for example) I am never going to cut my bones or have retouched my face like that, I mean: there are people who change their whole face not needing it.

      5 years ago
  4. There was a recent article on how there’s an increase of people from China who are going to South Korea to get plastic surgery. It made me somewhat confused because as a Chinese person, I know that we age gracefully and that we tend to look younger than we’re supposed to. Hell I’m 21 and people think I’m 15…

    I really don’t mind if people are getting plastic surgery for health related issues such as breathing. Hell a friend of mine has considered breast reduction because of this issue. But the ones who are just going to make them selves “perfect”, are the ones I can’t understand. At some point, you just have Michael Jackson syndrome where you get more regardless of what everyone else thinks…
    Also, I think perfection is a conformist idea as well as a narcissist idea. You’re only perfect when you accept your flaws and failures. Trying to look perfect is a one track idea. You’ll just end up thinking and looking the same as everyone else

    Then there are the people who think they will look much younger than they do if they get plastic surgery. I’ve seen some who look way too scary to be young looking. Just accept the aging because even when you age, you may look better.

    5 years ago
  5. off topic: it’s really frustrating that I can’t edit or delete my posts (or am I blind and can’t notice the options?). It feels like every time I post something I’m submitting an essay to be evaluated. Which is stressful.
    I’m the type of person who notices quite a number of typos, grammatical and stylistic mistakes only After posting. Especially since English is not my native language. And it’s annoying I can’t fix those…

    5 years ago
    • Ah! I’m sorry about the lack of clear editing. It’s a problem with WordPress comments. I’ll try finding a way to fix it, hopefully!

      5 years ago
  6. Well, for me, plastic surgery is something you should do for yourself and not to please society, your boyfriend/girlfriend… I think it can be a good thing, if you’re really uncomfortable with a part of your body and you hate seeing yourself in a mirror. I don’t like my nose (so big) and I think that if I had a lot of money I would do a nosejob.
    Something I like about Korea is that it is seems normal to have plastic surgery whereas here (France) if peope know you had smth. fixed everyone is blaming you for not assuming your body and beeing fake.
    Last thing, it scares me that if I would fix a part of my body, then I might find everything else unaesthetic and continue plastic surgeries and never know how to stop.

    5 years ago
  7. I just saw a Judy Garland quote literally yesterday up on a wall downtown that seems extremely apt to this topic: “Always be a first rate version of yourself, instead of a second rate version of someone else.”
    I have pretty conflicted feelings about this topic, so instead of rambling for 10,000 words, I’ll just say this. I totally understand wanting to try to make yourself happier with the way you look, but I think surgery, which can be dangerous and could end up not the way you wanted, should be saved as a last resort.

    5 years ago
  8. I think that while the expectations of beauty are unrealistic, expecting everyone to love everything about themselves is even more unrealistic. There are traits that I really don’t like about myself, but when I tell other people that, they say that I shouldn’t feel bad about it, since a lot of other people want that trait. There’s also traits I see in other people that I wish I had, even though I know that they don’t like them. Even if all beauty standards were to disappear, I still think that people still wouldn’t be happy with the way they look, just because we all have different preferences.

    Well, that got slightly off-topic.

    5 years ago
  9. On the one hand my automatic response is similar to the second guy, to launch into a Christina Aguilera sing-off, “You are beautiful, no matter what they saaaaayyyy..” I think it’s unfair that people feel pressured to change their face just to get a job. Yet, I also know how competitive the job market is in Korea so I understand their willingness to do anything to get an edge. Also, my mom has a cousin who felt unattractive because of her nose for all of her youth. When she was in her 20’s, she got a nose job. Instead of being upset, the family was happy. Not because they thought she needed a nose job, they thought her nose was fine, but because they thought it would help her be happier. Luckily it did. Her confidence shot through the roof. So in that respect I think it’s personal.
    As for Korea, I feel like they see eyelid surgery almost like getting braces. If you think about it, braces are kind of creepy. My parents willingly had someone cement metal onto my teeth, attach them with wire, then slowly tighten the wire over two years. All so that I wouldn’t have any spaces between my teeth and I would have a “pretty” smile. Yet no one thinks braces are a big deal. They are a common part of adolescence. So I can see how eyelid surgeries have become common and not really a big deal. But some of those other surgeries are pretty intense and I don’t know if people always get how serious surgery is. I don’t mean to gross people out, but the only thing I can think of when they talk about the jawline surgery is, what if that gets infected? If you have an infected jaw, you might have some serious trouble. Could it spread to your brain? Could it get so out of hand they have to remove your jaw entirely? To me the risks FAR outweigh the benefit of something like that.

    5 years ago
    • Braces are much more often to prevent health problems than merely for looks. Those crooked teeth and over/under bites you see on someone may cause them headaches, migraines, TMJ, sleep apnea, digestive problems of all kinds, muscle strain, speech impediments, and other serious issues. I think it’s much more rare for someone to get braces for purely cosmetic reasons. When parents get them for their kids, I highly doubt most of them will explain to their children why crooked teeth ( or unaligned jaws ) can be a serious problem that’s easier fixed when young. Hell, I doubt most orthodontists explain this to their patients, which is very concerning to me. Having straight teeth isn’t for looks – it’s a sign that you’re healthy, and can prevent a lot of problems later on. I myself have very crooked teeth and a bad under bite, and I’ve had headaches and migraines most of my life ( can’t afford braces =( ).

      5 years ago
      • Yup, you hit the nail on the head. I had to get braces because my upper palate was too narrow, so I was biting weird and getting headaches all the time. I got it from my Mom, and she couldn’t afford to fix her teeth, so now she’s constantly chipping teeth and having a hard time with them.

        I wish people would stop assuming that braces are cosmetic. Having a healthy bite is important and I was really annoyed when people would say, “why are you getting braces?! Your teeth look just fine the way the are!” as though I just felt like having those metal brackets on my teeth for two years.

        I hope that you’re able to either get the money, or find another solution for your teeth problems. <3 I've felt your pain and it's no fun :(

        5 years ago
        • Yay, someone else who gets it! I just got a little bit of dental coverage through Medicaid… but it doesn’t cover braces at all. So still I just have to wait until I get enough money for them. I’m gonna see if I can get the clear ones ( since they work the same ), so it doesn’t negatively affect my career. I look super young as it is right now, and braces usually make people look younger ( since children are usually the ones wearing them ). Sadly, it’s pretty far down on my list of priorities, even health-wise. Still, it’s gonna be one of the first things I do when I get some money. =)

          5 years ago
        • I’m replying to you, Sachi, but it doesn’t have a reply button, so I’m technically replying to my own comment :P

          I wish you the best with saving up the money! And I really do understand about the problem of looking young. When I went in to one of the initial check ups, they thought I was underage, so they handed the paperwork to my mom, who was only there for moral support. They got really flustered when they realized that I was in my early twenties. And, yes, the braces definitely made me seem a bit younger. (They also make flossing a giant pain in the butt.)

          Take care!

          5 years ago
    • JC

      That’s a really good comparison. I think someone else posted something similar. Lots of people in the States get braces and do not think a thing about it. But it is a type of cosmetic modification, albeit not surgery, unless you’re my brother and they have to break your jaw to lengthen it so your top teeth don’t bite your lower gum, but in that case I would call it more of a reconstructive, necessary-for-health surgery than simply cosmetic. That kind is always ok. But I digress. I think a good aspect to remember is the level of invasiveness and how much you are still going to look like you after. Braces and double eyelids are not that invasive and honestly I don’t think are extreme visually. Boob jobs and jaw shaving are definitely more invasive and altering. I guess I’d be ok with the first and not the second. Cosmetic surgery is on a spectrum, so it’s hard to make all encompassing statements about it.

      I would not apply the same opinion to cosmetic surgery for the purpose of looking younger. Regardless of the level of invasiveness, I think that is not right. Don’t do stupid things that are going to make you age prematurely (meth, I’m looking at you), but just enjoy life and age the way your body ages. Be proud of your wrinkles and sags because they have been earned with your accumulated joys and tears.

      5 years ago
  10. I don’t believe that plastic surgery is a bad thing, but I wonder how people who have had major plastic surgery (like shaving the jaw bone and getting a new nose) feel about possibly having children. You can’t change the genes that you were born with. So do these children grow up feeling ugly from birth? Or are parents more accepting if its not them but their kid?

    5 years ago
    • They’re not more accepting of their kids. I’ve been told by some older Korean women that their children (currently in kindergarten and second grade) will need plastic surgery-like their moms had-when they get older. In my culture it seemed like cruel and unthinkable talk, but in Korea it’s dinner conversation. For better or worse, plastic surgery is lacking stigma more and more as time goes on in korea.

      5 years ago
  11. oooh, it’s interesting to see the really different POVs between the westerners answering the question and the Koreans. we seem to think it’s bad and they seem to think it’s fine. personally, i think everyone is a little wrong. Like, i don’t think it’s bad and i think everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their body… but when i look at korean celebrities, especially girls, and they all look the SAME, well it makes me sad… and what is it that defines beauty, then, if everyone is beautiful??

    5 years ago
  12. I think we should be happy with the way God made us. If he wanted us to have a different shaped nose or chin, he would of made us that way.

    That second guy was hilarious! “And who needs look good to have a job?” I mean, look at me. I have a job”

    5 years ago
    • *to look good to have a job

      5 years ago
    • Totally agree. When going through the awkwardness of the teen years, I remember my mom telling me, “God made you. And God doesn’t make mistakes.”

      Wish more kids had parents who would say things like that. If you’re changing the way you look, particularly when you’re so young, it seems that you’re trying to fix an internal problem with an external cover up.

      5 years ago
  13. While I am a proponent of people doing what’s best for them, I think my problem with the argument is how to ever claim that we really want something for ourselves and not because of societal pressures. As far as purely cosmetic surgery, it’s nearly impossible to differentiate the two since our concept of beauty comes from our society and upbringing, hence the different standards of beauty in Asia and in “the west”. Further I think the inundation of the ONE standard Korean beauty ideal (seen in korean popular culture) makes doing plastic surgery both more common and more likely to be for other people. Finally, the idea of getting surgery to get a job makes it slightly more acceptable, but also reflects the bigger problem with much Korean society and its obsession with image. People shouldn’t be “fixing” their faces, businesses should be fixing their standards.

    5 years ago
  14. Though it’s none of my business what anyone does to their body, I’m still pretty anti-plastic surgery. And I have a couple of reason why. Like first off if you’re only having maybe one or two, that’s fine. Even great if they are for health reasons. But when you start going in to change your nose, eyes, jaw, libo, and all this other stuff multiple times it’s definitely a problem. You may say you’re getting it done to look better, but in my opinion and, I’m not professional so don’t quote me, it just seems like you’re trying to cover up some bigger issue you have with yourself. I’ve really understood why some people hate themselves so much that they would rather get more surgery and think after this one all these negative thoughts will just go away and they’ll be pretty or whatever adjective it is they are going for. Like with as much a person spends on surgeries, they could take it and probably easily find a good therapist or support group to get to the root of this “I’m not good enough” thoughts.

    My other reason for being against plastic surgery is the horror stories you hear. I don’t know how they do things in Korea, but here in the states you hear a lot about these women who go out somewhere – maybe another state or country – to get these procedures done and they come back almost dead, limbs missing, or some kind of deformity because they didn’t want to pay $25k for like a butt lift or that new boob job. I remember this one woman who was on this talk show talking about how she went out of the country to get some botox injected into like her hip or butt, maybe both. But instead the “hospital” was like a motel room, they used alcohol for anesthesia, and instead of that botox injection she was injected with liquid cement. It’s crazy she almost died. But she isn’t the only woman doing these things. I think there’s even a television show here in the states where these victims talk about the things they did to try and better themselves only to come home worse off than they were. It’s terrifying and kind of makes me hope I have to never go under the knife even if it is here in my own country.

    5 years ago
  15. I come form Lithuania and I suppose plastic surgeries are not popular at all here. Only one of my friends got a plastic surgery but that was because of health issues. He had a cleft lip and palate thus to correct it he got the procedures done.
    But I also had a chance to observe the difference in perception on what is considered to be a plastic surgery and what isn’t. I have one Korean friend and one day, when talking about this very same topic, he showed me pictures of his sister. his gf and I asked him whether his sister had anything done to her face. and he said “no”. both of us couldn’t believe it and exclaimed a really loud “really?!” and I added “not even the eyes?”
    to Which he replied with a “oh. yes. she had the double eyelid surgery but that’s not really a PS.”
    of course we had to argue. In the end we found out that she also had done a nose correction surgery, but that wasn’t considered as a PS either. this really stuck with me actually.

    5 years ago
    • I find that it’s the same here in Canada with getting braces. I never considered braces or other orthodontic whatnots to be plastic surgery: I’ve had braces, a lot of my friends have too. I think I know more people who have had them (or retainers, or other things of that sort) than who haven’t. I still get confused sometimes when I hear about a kpop star or actor who got braces, and it being considered plastic surgery.

      5 years ago
  16. My mom and I both had plastic surgery, though in my case, they called it reconstructive surgery. Long story short, they were both the necessary version of plastic surgery. Other then that, only person I know that had it unnecessarily was my Aunt from up north. She got bigger boobs. ^.^ For me, I was born with club feet and well I was told when I was first born my feet didn’t look like feet. Just lil balls of flesh on the sides on my legs (ankle region). Mom on the other hand is a clutz, broke her nose, and they fixed it so she could breath normally again. I say the clutz thing with all the affection in the world. (Mostly cause I’m not much better off. hehe)

    5 years ago
  17. This is probably gonna come off really rude and I’m sorry in advance, but why aren’t you guys posting like any videos anymore. I see maybe 1 a week and I’m a bit sad because usually your videos make me feel happy but I’m not feeling it anymore. I don’t really feel the happiness invade my negative mind and force me to think positively. I kind of miss the old eyk…
    Sorry >.<

    5 years ago
    • They’re on a hiatus for January.

      5 years ago
    • Go back and watch some of the old posts. It always amazes me how much I thought I remembered, and then I watched an old post. Before you knew it, I was trawling the old vlogs seeing where the next one lead, even though I’d already watched them!!

      5 years ago
    • They said in a blog post that they need to recover from something because of a doctor, so they will be sick and need some time off this January.

      5 years ago
  18. In my culture, there’s an expression that says “you need to suffer to be beautiful”. My nanny used to say it, not my mother, and I was never pressured to look pretty. But it never hit me until my adult years how wrong it is to teach that to little girls. You absolutely do not have to go through pain in order to achieve good looks! Health is what matters the most. Why suffer? At the end of the day it comes down to everyone’s choices. But I think it’s a sick thing to say to people.
    I hate the lump on my nose. I’m bot trying to love it and it is d considering getting surgery. I was hit by something a few years ago and I suspect it got bigger at that moment, but I’m not sure maybe I’m just looking for excuses. I’ll think about it if I get enough money.

    5 years ago
  19. DD

    I feel like there is a tendency in this talk. While Korean people recognize the plastic surgery as something practical option that I agree as a member of Korean social group, Westerner(in this talk) recognizes it as face-off related to self-identification, which is something disturbing thing for me as well.

    My facial expression usually recognized little bit pissed always because I’m not kind of smily person in comparison with other people. In Korea, It can be problem and I’m always tried to smile as much as possible when I’m with elderly person or my supervisor. However smile could be sometimes claimed, because it is not really my default facial expression. I’m trying to practice smile like fight attendances does : keeping plastic card on my mouth with stretching mouth. A, I ,U, E, O. But I’m sometimes desire to do plastic surgery to make my face smily to escape from this judgement. I know this could remind you a joker. ( lol )
    Western people might say “No it is your face and characteristic!” But I claimed from western people many times in same reason and it is more annoying thing than claim of Korean elderly people’s judgement sometimes. My english tutor said “Smile, if you don’t want to look like snobby.” These people don’t know the smile of young woman (in Korea) should be careful because it can be interpreted in wrong way.I don’t really believe any surgery can keep person’s muscle smily forever so will continue just practice. But who knows about future?

    5 years ago
  20. I have no problem with plastic surgery, as long as you don’t go crazy and get so much that your friends can’t recognize you anymore. I would totally get plastic surgery if I had the money, but it wouldn’t be major. I wold just get on thing changed, my nose. I wouldn’t change the shape really, just have it leveled out so from a side view it it’s going down at the same degree the whole way. If I got it done you wouldn’t be able to tell from the front.

    5 years ago
  21. Personally, it really just depends on the person. But for me, I would not want plastic surgery. I’m fine with how I look but if it helps other give themself a boost of confidence, why stop them? They just want to look at beautiful as everyone they see around them. It’s not going to harm anyone if they do get it (unless the surgeon screws up); there’s plenty of pros and cons to getting plastic surgery and it really does just come down to the person who wants it done.

    5 years ago
  22. inlove with this segment <3 reading/hearing these thoughts from different people is so nice~ plus the topics are very interesting! more power~! :D

    5 years ago
  23. Is it cheap to do plastic surgery in Korea?? It is so common that I think anyone can afford it. In my country you must decide if you want to buy an apartment or to do some plastic surgery.

    5 years ago
    • No, it’s not cheap. Maybe cheaper, but girls here will often choose the surgery over the apartment. Or beg their parents to pay for it.

      5 years ago
  24. I am 95% against plastic surgery. I feel it’s as if you’re living a lie. You want people to accept you for who you are but you yourself don’t accept you. That said, I think there are some cases where it’s fine. Often I find that people look much better before PS than they do afterwards or they go to far with it and end up messing up a good thing. However I think at the root of plastic surgery for non-medical reasons is, does beauty bring happiness?

    5 years ago
  25. I would definitely do it if I had the money. I dislike my nose, it’s too big for my face and makes me look like a child instead of an adult. Also, I feel like my breasts are too small, making me feel like a teenager instead of a full grown woman. Nobody else has any say or has influenced it for me, it’s just how I feel. At 28 I should feel like a woman, not continue to be called “cute” and be mistaken for a teenager because of those specific features. I’ll still look younger than my age, but I won’t be mistaken for a teen. I would feel so much better about myself, much more confident and happy. Too bad I don’t have the money.

    5 years ago
    • From reading the comments here, I feel bad for wanting to change my appearance. I thought this crowd was more supportive than that. I’m not doing or saying anything wrong, and even something as minor as wearing makeup or dyeing your hair is changing your appearance from what you were born with. Really not a nice feeling, Nasties.

      5 years ago
  26. My friend is getting the eyelid surgery in a year or so. I’ve wondered why, but when I saw her put on makeup and struggle, I can understand her desire to want it. She’ll probably go to Korea to do it because it is too pricey in L.A. and she would rather go to some place more experienced in it.

    5 years ago
  27. I’ve been wondering what the inspiration to the SB’s mascot is lol.
    It looks scary but I like it : D
    (although if anyone were to get plastic surgery… )

    5 years ago
  28. Plastic surgery is awesome. Elective surgery to “fix” your appearance, when there is nothing wrong with you… not awesome. If you feel you are getting pressure everywhere to be “better looking” go somewhere else and/or make new friends.

    5 years ago
  29. In my opinion plastic surgery is both good and bad. I think that if it’s for medical reasons or if you just get a small nose job or get your eyes done that’s perfectly fine, but for me it’s when people completely change their face that it becomes “bad”
    I’ve personally had plastic surgery for medical reasons and I don’t think that it’s changed who I am.

    5 years ago
  30. In life we are all on a constant journey to make ourselves “better” or “fulfilled” whether we are doing this consciously or subconsciously. For some people their only motivation for exercising is not truly for health reasons but to be skinnier, and look better, thus in turn feel better about themselves. They are not happy with the way they look when they put on that swim suit in the summer. Can we say that their pursuit of wanting to look a certain way is bad? Most people would argue against it because exercise is a very socially accepted means of looking better. Both stem from a underlying desire to be something that we are not currently. That doesnt mean that we are shallow or conceited or insecure. Is it insecure to try to be a size 2 when we are a size 8 when according to your BMI you should be a size 2? As some have commented before in this thread, one needs to look at yourself, not in the mirror, but through the lens of life and see from whence your happiness and self actualization lies. I think this process is very difficult to do though, and many of us never get there. Myself included…… Live for an audience of one…..

    5 years ago
  31. I think with plastic surgery its kind of an odd topic because its not if you actually get it or not. Its more like for what reason and does it really do what it is supposed to do for you.

    I know for my younger brother who had a deviated septum and had to get surgery so he could breath out of one of his nostrils. It worked great and his nose looks a lot more straight and less lumpy? and he could finally breath correctly. But the purpose of the surgery was to make him able to breath not change his nose and his nose did change a little in order for him to breath.

    I guess for me just from seeing what my brother experienced plastic surgery is a useful type of surgery, if it fulfils a purpose. I think when plastic surgery becomes like a means to look “beautiful” there is a problem because beauty is subjective and can be anything from large full lips to huge eyes. I know that some celebrities have taken it too far and end up looking very strange or even cartoony.

    I still think plastic surgery could be a good tool for minor operations like double eye lids for a purpose like in order to get a job or something. But if you already feel bad about yourself, will plastic surgery fix that? I don’t think so, I think in that case it might even turn into an addiction or obsession, if its used for the sake of trying to feel good about yourself. because its like the feeling of buying a piece of clothing that you look great in and love to wear, after a while you might still like it but you found another one that you like even more, I feel like plastic surgery can be sort of like that for some people. I think in this case the problem is in a person’s view of themselves rather than the shape of their face or body, kind of like bulimics or anorexics who are already stick people but think they are fat.

    5 years ago
  32. I don’t think I would ever do plastic surgery unless it is for healthy reasons or in some really bad situation like after an accident (which I hope will never happen!!), and in that terrible case I would do it only to have my face back exactly the way it is now… I’m sure that changing my face, or my body, in such en extreme way will deeply affect my identity! But I’m totally okay with other people that want to do it, it’s their choice to feel better with themselves.
    What really bothers me is when plastic surgery is the result of a great social pressure on the individual: you’re not okay, you should be different (= better looking) to achieve your goals… These things really annoy me.
    I’m also aware that this kind of pressure on the individual look is common all over the world. It may not be plastic surgery, maybe it is diet or physical exercise or something else, but we are all surrounded by beauty-models.
    So, I admit that the korean situation looks extreme to me because it involves something like “cutting” and “reshaping” the body, which I’m not used to see in the people around me, but I don’t think it’s worst than other situations, it’s different, and it’s sad just like everywhere else a person is “forced” to hate his/her own look…
    I’m really sorry for my bad English, I’m not English speaker and I found it very difficult to express my thought, I hope it is someway understandable! ^^”

    5 years ago
  33. I think plastic surgery is a personal choice. That being said, you should never make important choices while you are at a low point in life. Like getting a haircut after a break-up…

    But yes, I have thought about getting plastic surgery on 1) my nose, which I don’t particularly like and 2) Boob reduction: I want to fit into normal bra’s too. However, I got quite used to my nose. It’s a little big, but it’s my fathers and without the boobs, I’d be totally out of ballance. So no, I decided not to get plastic surgery.
    Furthermore, I don’t think beauty is purely skindeep. Yes, your appearance will make a first impression, but it is your personality that makes people like you.

    5 years ago
    • Just to let you know – “normal” bras, I’m guessing the kind you see in Victoria’s Secret, are far from normal. VS carries approximately 30 of the 220+ bra sizes that -should- be available to all women ( they only carry 13.5% of the available bra sizes, approximately! ). On top of that, they fit women incorrectly just so that they can sell their bras, even though wearing the wrong size can lead to pain, discomfort, and in a few cases actual medical problems. Does that sound normal to you? Seriously, go here, you won’t regret it – tinyurl. com/ properfitbra . You -are- normal, it’s VS and the like that are the screwed up ones for making most women feel like they’re somehow abnormal for not fitting into their bras. Ladies with larger breasts don’t even need to feel pain of any kind, once they find their true size. Hell, I was being shoved into a 34A and constantly having to adjust everything, had underwires poking into my breasts… and that’s a pretty small size even for a petite woman like me. I’m truly a size 30DD, and I live my life without any pain from my bra not fitting. That page there will tell you things I only wish I knew from when I first got a bra until I found it – straps aren’t supposed to hold you up, the band is often too large which makes the cups the wrong size, the band is supposed to be 90% of your support at least, US bra makers are full of crap when it comes to sizing ( so stick with UK/online! ), and the way we think about bra sizes is so utterly wrong, it’s insulting. I get told I’m lying about having a DD cup, because DD = huge ( which is totally wrong ), so I can’t possibly want larger breasts.. even though I basically have a flat chest if I put a sports bra on. Like, we’re talking legitimate pancake chest. Anyway, I’m rambling. I hope you find some support from my comment, in more way than one!

      5 years ago
      • yeah my younger sister had troubles with her bras for the exact same reason, she has a small rib cage and large bust size, she has to look online to find her correct size. In most department stores the larger cup sizes would be too big for her ribs leaving very little support or going down a cup size and getting spill over, either way it sucked.

        5 years ago
      • hey there, thank you for youre comment :)
        I actually am quite familiar with bra’s and how they are supposed to fit. It took me a couple years but then I found this really good shop for “alternative” bra sizes. So everything larger than D. Anyway, when I said “normal bra’s” what I meant was the size. If I am to buy a new bra the type that fits me best, it will cost me around 90-100 euro’s. for that same money I can buy some realy nice shoes or a new wintercoat. I think the pricing is ridiculus. Furthermore, there just isn’t much variation. So I just want to be able to go to a department store or the Hunkemoller, and be able to find some cute ones. But since my ribcage is kinda small (that was a surprise, seriously, i’m not a small type of person) my cupsize went up.
        I actually tried losing weight but that didn’t help much. I lost about 10kg, but cupsize did not change at all :(
        Now that I’m in Korea, the size issue is even worse. so many cute dresses that I won’t be able to fit in.

        Well, I guess other people have the opposite problem, so I shouldnt be complaining so much. It’s just the pricing that really bothers me. ^^’

        Cheers

        5 years ago